BRKG The swine flu is not easing

Navydad

Inactive
Read my posts on Rodeo Rectors thread. There have been no changes. In fact things are spreading. Obama's radio address does not say it is getting better.
 

Marthanoir

TB Fanatic
So how does a Virus outbreak ease,
You can immunise against it, we've been told this is in the process of development,
It can burn itself out by being so leathal thus killing the host before they can spread it, we've been told that this is not happening,
It can infect only so many people who are then cured that there is no longer anybody to infect, we're told this isn't happening, #
You can close borders & control movement so that infected people cannot mix with un-infected people, we've been told this is too late
hmmmmm :whistle:
 

MichaelUK

Senior Member
The outbreak is not easing, they have changed the testing standards.


quote 1
CHICAGO – Illinois joined the grim and growing list of states with confirmed swine flu cases and handed out stockpiled drugs while businesses ramped up for the possibility of employees working from home.

As the number of confirmed and probable cases in Illinois climbed to 54, the state’s top doctor said Friday future testing for swine flu would focus on hospitalized patients with severe illness.

“That will make sure that we don’t inappropriately use our supplies,” Dr. Damon Arnold, head of the Illinois Department of Public Health, said at a news conference in Springfield.

While it’s unclear whether the new standard for testing would even have detected any of the cases already identified, Arnold said one aim was to calm the public.

quote 2
Health department spokeswoman Melaney Arnold said the new, less aggressive testing standard would reduce a backlog of untested samples.

Officials have tested more than 500 specimens from patients with flu symptoms and continue to receive more samples from doctors everyday. The health department is using existing staff and resources to keep up.

But the state’s running tally will no longer “truly represent” the number of swine flu cases in Illinois, the spokeswoman said, because most cases have been mild, that is, similar in severity to regular flu, and can be handled by doctors without tests to confirm the new virus.
 

Navydad

Inactive
Since no one is reading the high priority thread here is the latest list compiled and documented by many of us over hundreds of hours. Posted by SassyAZ last midnight. Quite a difference from CDC's list. Every thing on this list has a valid link in the thousands of posts on the Comprehensive Flu thread. Easing my A$$.

[FONT=Verdana,Arial] Originally Posted by SassyinAZ

Mexico (confirmed)

-- as of 04/26, 19 out of Mexico's 32 states, per WHO
-- as of 04/28, Mexico reduces confirmed cases from 20 to seven; total of 2,498 suspected swine influenza cases nationwide; 1,311 hospitalized
-- as of 04/29, Mexican health authorities say the confirmed swine flu cases has risen to 99 with 8 confirmed fatalities. The 99 confirmed cases and 8 fatalities are all lab-confirmed swine flu; the suspected death toll is up to 160 and thousands infected
-- The Mexican government called on Wednesday for non-essential parts of the economy to shut down between May 1-5 to help combat the swine flu outbreak.
-- as of 05/01, Health Minister confirms 52 increases to 312 cases nationwide
-- as of 05/01, Health Minister Claims Mexico is “Entering a Period of Stabilization
-- as of 05/01, Toyota, Bridgestone close production facilities; Govt conducting house to house investigations
-- as of 05/01, Overall Case Count Up to to 15 Confirmed Deaths and 358 Confirmed Cases
-- as of 05/01, suspected cases in every Mexican state
-- as of 05/01, 35,000 cases backlogged waiting to be analyzed


Mexican States:

Aguascalientes (confirmed)
Baja California (2 states) (confirmed)
-- Norte and Sur
Chihuahua (confirmed)
Coahuia
Durango (confirmed)
Guanajuato (14 suspected, none confirmed 5/1)
Guerrero
Hidalgo
Jalisco
Matamoras (confirmed)
Mexico, Mexico City, Flu restrictions spur riot at prison 5/1 (confirmed) 168 suspected fatalities as of 4/30
Mexico State (Estado de Mexico), 5 confirmed fatalities 5/1
Michoacán, 5/1 4 Suspected Fatalites; 9 Suspected Cases; No Confirmed Cases to Date
Nayarit
Nuevo Laredo
Nuevo Leon
Oaxaca (confirmed)
Pachuca
Querétaro
Quintana Roo
San Luis Potosi (confirmed)
Sonora (confirmed)
Tabasco
Tamaulipas (suspected)
Tlaxcala, first fatality 5/1
Vera Cruz (confirmed)
-- La Gloria, Perote (suspected origin)

United States (confirmed):

-- Declared public health emergency
-- as of 04/30, ore than 100 schools nationwide have closed because of the swine flu, affecting some 56,000 students, according to the U.S. Department of Education.
-- as of 5/1 DHS briefing, over 400 schools closed nationwide; 140 cases nationwide

Arkansas -- 12 suspected cases across the state as of 04/30
-- Benton County
Alabama (suspected only with no Mexico connection)
-- Madison County -- all city parks closed (4/28)
Arizona (confirmed), 52 suspected as of 5/1
-- Chandler (confirmed ), 1 school closed
-- Coconino County
-- Coconino County, NAU (probable), dumbasses implement no restrictions
-- Phoenix, Moon Mountain Elementary (confirmed); school closed

California (confirmed), as of 5/1 per latimes, 20 confirmed, plus 55 probable.
-- Declared State of Emergency
-- Alameda County (probable)
-- Camp Pendleton, 2 confirmed, Marines
-- Claremont
-- Contra Costa County
-- 3 confirmed in Sacramento Ca (Fair Oaks)
-- Marine Corps, Twenty-Nine Palms military base (confirmed)
-- Imperial County (confirmed)
-- Indio
-- Long Beach (probable), local state of emergency declared (04/29)
-- Los Angeles County (probable)
-- Marin County (confirmed)
-- Orange County (probable)
-- Oxnard (confirmed)
-- Riverside County, local emergency declared (4/28), 8 probable cases; 2 hospitalized 5/1
-- Sacramento County (confirmed), health care worker (probable)
-- Salinas (probable)
-- San Bernadino, declares local emergency (04/29)
-- Santa Clara (probable)
-- San Diego County (10 confirmed 5/1)
-- San Francicsco (confirmed)
-- San Joaquin County (probable)
-- San Luis Obispo County (probable)
-- Santa Clara
-- Santa Cruz
-- Solano county (Probable)
-- Tulare County
-- Vacaville (confirmed)
-- Ventura County (confirmed)

Colorado (confirmed)
-- Arapahoe County (confirmed)
-- Douglas County (confirmed)
Connecticut (confirmed)
-- East Haddam (dismissed)
-- Middlefield
-- Statford/Southbury
Delaware (confirmed)
-- Neward
-- Southbury
-- Stratford
-- University of Delaware (probable)
Florida (confirmed)
-- 5/1 declares public health emergency
-- Bonita Springs (confirmed)
-- Broward County (confirmed)
-- Lee County (confirmed)
-- Manatee County (suspected)
-- Miami-Dade
-- Orange County (confirmed); Hallandale High School closed
-- Orlando
-- Palm Beach County
-- Pinellas County (probable)
-- Tallahassee
-- Tampa
Georgia (confirmed)
-- Bremen (probable)
-- Lagrange (confirmed)
Hawaii
Idaho
-- Kootenai County (probable)
Illinois (confirmed) 54 probable across the state, 3 confirmed as of 5/1
-- Chicago, 16 probable as of 5/1
-- DuPage County (probable)
-- Kane County
-- Kendall County (probable)
-- Lake County (probable)
-- McHenry County (probable)
-- Will County (probable)
Indiana (confirmed)
-- Indianapolis
-- Notre Dame (confirmed), St Joseph County
-- South Bend
Iowa (confirmed)
-- 5/1, Gov declares public health disaster
-- Clinton County (confirmed)
-- Des Moines
-- Marshall County (probable)
-- Waterloo
Kansas (confirmed)
-- Dickinson County (probable pediatric)
-- Warren County (confirmed)
Kentucky (confirmed)
-- Bowling Green (confirmed)
Louisiana
-- Lafayette (probable)
-- New Orleans (suspected)
-- Orleans Parish (probable)
-- St. Martin Parish (probable)
-- St. Tammany Parish (probable)
Maine (confirmed) 6 as of 5/1
-- Kennebec County and York County (confirmed)
-- Penobscot County (confirmed)
Maryland, 9 probable 5/1
-- Announce first possible community acquired transmission, special needs student 5/1
-- 4 schools closed until further notice 5/1
-- Anne Arundel County (suspected)
-- Baltimore County (probable)
-- Laurel elementary school to close (probable)
-- Montgomery County (probable)
Massachusetts (confirmed), 7 as of 5/1
-- State not releasing any information regarding confirmed cases other than #
-- Amherst College (2 probable)
-- Bedford student (confirmed)
-- Barnstable County (confirmed) in Falmouth and Harwitch
-- Boston
-- Boston, Harvard School of Dental Medicine (probable)
-- Breed Middle School (suspected)
-- Buzzards Bay: Coast Guard Lieutenant (confirmed)
-- Lowell (confirmed)
-- Northeastern University bans handshaking at the upcoming commencement ceremony (4/30)
-- Middlesex County (confirmed)
-- Spencer
-- Weston (confirmed)
-- Worcester
Michigan (confirmed)
-- Kent County
-- Hillsdale (probable)
-- Ingham County (suspected)
-- Ingham County, Windemere Park Charter Academy shut down 5/1
-- Livingston County (confirmed)
-- Macomb County (probable)
-- Ottawa County (confirmed) 10 probable as of 5/1
Minnesota (confirmed)
-- tested 224 samples from people with flu symptoms, with more than 30 left to be checked as of 5/1
-- Isanti County (preliminary positive)
Missouri (confirmed 5/1)
-- Kansas City
-- Platte County (probable)
Nebraska (confirmed)
--Gov declares public health emergency 4/30
-- Douglas County (probable)
-- Lee County (probable)
-- Madison County (probable)
-- Madison County, public schools closed 5/1
-- Norfolk, schools closed 5/1
-- Omaha
-- Sedgwick County (suspected)
-- Sarby County (probable)
Nevada 1 confirmed 5/1
-- Las Vegas (suspected)
-- Pahrump (suspected)
-- Reno (confirmed)
New Hampshire (probable)
-- Concord (probable, hospital employee)
-- Grafton County (probable)
New Mexico (48 suspected, 2 probable as of 04/30; 4 probable 5/1)
-- Santa Fe County (probable)
-- Socorro County (probable)
-- Valencia County (probable)
New Jersey (confirmed)
-- Bergen County (confirmed)
-- Burlington County (confirmed)
-- Monmouth County (confirmed)
-- Somerset County (confirmed)
New York (confirmed) 13 probable as of 5/1
-- including Upstate and Central
-- no longer testing mild cases; only tested those admitted to hospitals with respiratory illness as of 4/30
-- Firefighter identified as probable 4/30
-- Albany County
-- Brooklyn (confirmed)
-- Buffalo (probable}
-- Chautauqua County (probable)
-- Cortland County (probable)
-- Lewis County (probable)
-- Manhattan
-- Nassau County
-- Niagra Falls (probable)
-- New York City (49 cases confirmed)
-- Oneida County
-- Onondaga county (confirmed), Syracuse
-- Orange County (probable)
-- Queens
-- Rochester
-- Suffolk County (probable)
-- Schenectady County
-- Washington County
-- Westchester County (probable}
North Carolina (confirmed), 16 confirmed as of 5/1
-- unspecified number held in involuntary isolation
-- Boone, Appalachian State University (probable)
-- Buncombe County (all tested returned negative)
-- Onslow County (probable)
-- Wake County (probable)

Ohio (confirmed) 41 suspected, 3 probable as of 5/1
-- Columbus (probable)
-- Columbus, Ohio State University (probable)
-- Franklin County (probable)
-- Holmes County (probable)
-- Portage County (probable)
-- Elyria
-- Lorain County
Oregon, 5 probable 5/1
-- Harris Elementary (suspected); school likely to close
-- Lane County (probable)
-- Multnomah County (probable)
-- North Bend School District closes schools for min 14 days 5/1
-- Polk County (probable)
-- Wallowa County (probable)
-- Western Oregon University closed due to probable case 5/1
Pennsylvania, 4 probable cases statewide as of 5/1
-- Allegheny County
-- Blair County, Altona (probable)
-- Lower Merion Township (probable)
-- Montgomery County (probable)
-- Philadelphia County (probable)
Rhode Island
-- North Kingstown (probable)
-- Westerly and Smithfield (probable) -- one provides daycare services

South Carolina (confirmed)
-- Greenville County -- School closed after students returning from Disney World showed symptoms
-- Newberry, Newberry Academy in Newberry County.(confirmed)
South Dakota 2 probable 5/1
-- Marshall County (probable)
-- Minnehaha County (probable)

Tennessee (probable)
-- 1 near Nashville, 1 closer to Memphis
-- Nashville, Montgomery Bell Academy (probable); school closed
-- Nashville, Nashville Harding academy (confirmed); school closed
-- Shelby County (probable)
-- Williamson County (probable)
Texas (confirmed) 28 cases confirmed and 300 schools closed in 18 districts as of 5/1
-- Declares state of emergency (04./29)
-- Athletic events postponed (4/28)
-- Cancels all prison visitations for the weekend (5/1)
-- Amarillo (suspected)
-- Austin, 65 probable as of 5/1
-- Cameron County (confirmed)
-- Cleburne (probable); all schools closed pending results 5/1
-- Collin County (confirmed)
-- Corpus Christ, 179 suspected cases as of 4/30
-- Corpus Christi, Coast Guard Air Station (confirmed)
-- Corpus Christi, Driscoll Children’s Hospital (probable)
-- Dallas County (confirmed)
-- Denton County (1 confirmed, 2 probable as of 4/30)
-- El Paso (suspected)
-- Fort Bend County (4 probable 5/1) -- additional Houston cases; school closures
-- Galveston
-- Grimes County School District Closed Due to high number of probable cases (5/1)
-- Guadalupe County (confirmed)
-- Houston (confirmed) -- First fatality, Mexican national, 23 month old boy
-- Johnson County (probable)
-- Lewisville District; schools closed pending results 5/1
-- Liberty (confirmed)
-- Longview (probable), New Diana District closes schools
-- Laredo, United School District closes schools 5/1
-- Navasota (suspected)
-- New Dianna (probable)
-- Nueces County
-- 5/1, Plano middle school student confirmed. school closed in response
-- Potter County (probable)
-- Randall County (probable)
-- Rio Grande Valley (confirmed)
-- Starr County (16 confirmed 4/30)
-- Sugarland, Montesorri School closed
-- Tarrant County (5 confirmed, 15 probable as of 4/29)
-- Texarkana (probable)
-- Wichita County
Utah 9 probable as of 5/1
-- Park City School District, 8 schools closed (probable)
-- Summit County (probable)
-- Salt Lake County (probable)
-- Weber County (probable)
Virginia (confirmed)
-- Gov announces only confirmed cases will be announced
-- Two total from Chesterfield and Northern Neck as of 5/1
-- Lexington, Washington and Lee University students (probable)
Washington DC
-- BO aide and family
-- World Bank employee
-- George Washington University (2 probable)
Washington State
-- King County (probable)
-- Seattle pediatrician (probable)
-- Snohomish County (probable)
-- Spokane County (probable)
West Virginia
-- Parkersburg (suspected)
Wisconsin
-- Gov declares state of emergency (4/30)
-- Northern counties instructed to submit no more than 2 probable samples per day
-- Adams County (probable)
-- Brown County, includes Green Bay, 14 suspected cases 5/1
-- Madison County EMA reports 10 suspected and 2 probable as of 04/30
-- Milwaukee (probable)
-- Adams County (probable)
-- Ozaukee County (probable)
-- Sheboygan County (probable)
-- Waukesha County (probable), schools closed

Puerto Rico (US)

Africa
-- Benin (suspected)
-- South Africa, 2 suspected, Gauteng and Western Cape
Argentina (suspected)
-- Buenos Aires
-- Cordoba
-- Mendoza
-- Rosario
Australia (04/28 no confirmations to date; still testing)
-- Cairns
-- Western
-- Tasmania (ruled out)
-- Australia Capital Territory, 6 suspected 5/1
-- New South Wales
-- Northern Territory
-- South Australia State
-- Victoria, 8 suspected 5/1
Austria (confirmed)
-- Vienna (suspected)
-- Vorarlberg
-- Wien
Bahamas
-- Abaco Island
-- New Providence
Bahrain -- Gulf
-- Manama (suspected)
Barbados, Caribbean (2 suspected)
Bahamas, Caribbean (suspected)
Belgium
Belize, Caribbean, 4 cases of interest as of 04/30, 9 suspected as of 5/1
-- Belize City (suspected)
-- San Pedro (suspected)
-- Corozal (suspected)
Brazil, 4 suspected and 42 being monitored as of 5/1
-- Amazona state
-- Bahia state
-- Belo Horizonete (suspected)
-- Espirito Santo state
-- João Pessoa (suspected)
-- Minas Gerais
-- Para
-- Parana
-- North Rio Grande
-- Rio de Janeiro
-- Sao Paulo (suspected)
-- Santa Catarina

Canada, 54 confirmed as of 5/1
-- British Columbia (confirmed), 4 new confirmed 5/1 3 being community acquired
-- Calgary (confirmed)
-- Ontario (confirmed)
-- New Brunswick (confirmed)
-- Nova Scotia (confirmed), first p2p transmission (4/30)
-- Prince Edward Island
-- Quebec (confirmed), Montreal
-- Saskatchewan
-- Toronto (confirmed)
-- Victoria (confirmed), Vancouver Island

Chile -- as of 04/30, 26 Suspected Cases Nationwide, 4 hospitalized
-- Concepcion
-- Copiapo
-- Rancagua
-- Temuco
-- Viña del Mar

China (confirmed)
-- 5/1 all flight passengers under quarantine flying with confirmed case
-- Hong Kong (confirmed)
-- Singapore (suspected), alert level raised to orange 5/1

Columbia (59 cases as of 04/29)
-- Announces community transmission considered possible 5/1
-- Bogotá, soccer cancelled 5/1
-- Fixes price of face masks and announces penalties for violators

Costa Rica (confirmed) 53 Suspected Cases Nationwide as of 5/1

Czech Republic
-- Ostrava (suspected 2 hospitalized)
-- Prague

Denmark (confirmed}
-- Copenhagen (confirmed)

Egypt
-- 5/1, Government-ordered mass pig culling continues; all swine farms to be destroyed
-- Mayo City (tested negative)
El Salvador
-- Sonsonate (suspected)
Equador
-- Guayaquil
-- Quito

Finland
-- Lahti
France (confirmed as of 5/1)
-- as of 4/30, 41 Suspected Cases; Five Are Probable
-- 2 confirmed hospitalized
-- Aquitaine (probable)
-- Ile-de-France (probable)
-- Paris (confirmed)
Germany (confirmed)
-- Confirms human to human 5/1
-- Bavaria (nurse)
-- Hamburg (probable)
-- Kulmbach (probable)
-- Rhein-Kreis Neuss (suspected)
-- Magdeburg (suspected)
-- North Rhine-Westphalia (probable)
-- Regensburg
Greece
Grenada, Caribbean (suspected)
Guatemala
-- Guatemala City
Holland (confirmed as of 4/30)
Honduras, 17 suspected cases as of 5/1
-- La Ceiba.
India
Indonesia
Israel (confirmed)
-- Haifa (probable hospitalized)
-- Qalansuwa
-- Tel Aviv
-- Tel Mond
Ireland (preliminary positive)
Italy
-- Bologna (2 tested negative 5/1)
-- Lodi Province
-- Modena
-- Napoli
-- Pavia
-- Perugia:
-- Reggio Calabria
-- Salerno
-- Venezia
Japan
-- Narita airport (tested negative)
-- Tokyo (infant, preliminary positive)
-- Yokohama (suspected)
Lithuania
-- Panevezio (suspected)
Netherlands (confirmed)
New Zealand (confirmed)
-- Auckland, 136 Suspected as of 04/30
-- Nelson member of parliament preliminary positive 4/30
Nicaragua (suspected) -- President declares state of emergency
Norway
-- Egersund -- activates local preparedness plan, 1 suspected (4/30)
-- Norland Bodo (suspected)
-- Vestfold
Pakistan
Panama -- 4 suspected as of 04/30
-- Panama City
Peru, 8 suspected nationwide as of 04/30
-- Lima Department
-- Ayachucho Department
-- Loreto Department
Poland
-- Warsaw (suspected was incarcerated with Mexican nationals in Texas)
-- Warsaw (suspected hospitalized)
-- Wroclaw
Portugal
-- Porto (suspected)
Slovakia
-- Nitra (suspected hospitalized)
South Korea (confirmed as of 5/1
-- Gyeonggi (probable)
-- Seoul
Spain (confirmed), as of 5/1, 15 new suspected cases; total reaches 116
-- 4/30 confirms human to human transmission
-- Andalusia
-- Aragon (suspected)
-- Asturias
-- Bilbao
-- Catalonia (confirmed)
-- Estremadura (suspected)
-- Galicia
-- Hellín
-- La Rioja
-- Madrid (suspected)
-- Castilla La Mancha
-- Castilla León
-- Valencian Community (suspected)

Switzerland (confirmed)
-- 5/1, 29 suspected cases the cantons of Geneva, Vaud, Valais, Bern, Zurich, Basel Country and St Gallen. They all concern people who have returned from Mexico (see Zurich).
-- Jura (student in isolation)
-- Zurich, Air passengers, Of the 35 total cases brought before the Swiss health authorities so far, 15 have tested negative. One person, a 19-year-old man, has tested positive.

Taiwan
Trinidad and Tobago, Caribbean

UK (confirmed), 13 confirmed as of 5/1; 10 in England; 3 Scotland
-- confirms human to human 5/1
-- Gloucester shire (confirmed)
-- Newcastle (confirmed)
England (confirmed) 7 confirmed as of 5/1
-- Bristol (confirmed)
-- London, Devon Redditch, Monklands, Birmingham
-- Wales (suspected)
Scotland (confirmed)
-- Dundee
-- Edinburgh
-- Falkirk, first community transmitted 5/1
-- Polmont

Venezuela, 9 Suspected; 13 Recently Dismissed as of 5/1
-- Caracas
-- Cumana
-- Miranda
-- Tachira
-- Maracaibo
-- Trinidad
Vietnam

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Compare NavyDad's post number 6 in this thread to this from the pinned Hi-Pri thread:


U.S. Human Cases of Swine Flu Infection State # of laboratory confirmed cases

California 7 cases
Kansas 2 cases
New York City 9 cases
Ohio 1 case
Texas 2 cases
TOTAL COUNT 21 cases

As of April 26, 2009 9:00 AM ET"

Quite a change for 7 days, huh? Easing? I think not.

Berta
 

Cascadians

Leska Emerald Adams
Of course it is easing. It's the weekend and folks gotta take a break. Too many samples to test. OK, so let's not bother testing.

Overload, overwhelmed, not prepared.

Besides, having sickness spread is bad for the economy. Sweep the bugs under the rug.
 

dissimulo

Membership Revoked
Each day we get closer to summer, taking us into the least successful time of year for flu infection. So, it isn't surprising that we might see some easing in the infection rate. Unless this virus is unusually infectious, summer should bring the infection rate down quite a bit.

However, we don't really have a good enough grip on the stats to be able to say much about the infection rate right now, IMO.
 

LONEWOLF

Inactive
I'd like to know what *authority* actually said "swine flu appears to have eased". WHO - World Health Organization - said exactly those words, but *who* will take credit/responsibility for them? The W.H.O.? Obama? "Un-named sources"? Or a few "journalists" and Editors and opinion bloggers. I certainly hope non-experts won't be given front & center stage and top-billing in the MSM?
 

lectrickitty

Great Great Grandma!
There is 1 probable case in SE OK. It won't be confirmed b/c it's being treated at home by natural methods. The symptoms point to swine flu, the bug was picked up on a trip to Louisiana.

I haven't heard of any other reported cases here, but I don't get out much, most of my contact is by phone or internet.
 

Navydad

Inactive
I started this thread to rebut the thread about its over. lol. I would ask that you resume posting to the Comprehensive Flu thread. And if you don't mind copy and paste any news items you posted here there.

Thanks

ND
 

happyretiree

Veteran Member
Hope you don't mind my adding this to your thread since I cannot update my thread's title and the new link.
______________

New link

http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/


H1N1 Flu (Swine Flu)
Last updated May 2, 2009, 11:00 AM ET

U.S. Human Cases of H1N1 Flu Infection
(As of May 2, 2009, 11:00 AM ET) States # of laboratory confirmed cases

Arizona 4
California 24
Colorado 2
Connecticut 1
Delaware 4
Florida 2
Illinois 3
Indiana 3
Kansas 2
Kentucky* 1
Massachusetts 8
Michigan 2
Minnesota 1
Missouri 1
Nevada 1
New Jersey 7
New York 50
Ohio 1
South Carolina 13
Texas 28 1
Virginia 2
TOTAL (21) 160 cases 1 death
International Human Cases of Swine Flu Infection
See: World Health Organization

*Case is resident of KY but currently hospitalized in GA.
 

Rex Jackson

Has No Life - Lives on TB
"The swine flu is not easing"

In which way? It was never intense to begin with. I think I had it two weeks ago. It was in and out in two days. It was the most mild flu I have had. Odd, but mild.

Now if you are talking about spreading, thats something different. The entire planet has the flu especially seeing it was out since Jan. Its so mild, most people only take advil.
 

Digital Omnivore

Veteran Member
H1N1 doesn't kill anyone.

The swine flu killed people within 16 hours.

I really don't care about the semantics. Personally I prefer the term HAMTHRAX which I saw on the ticker forum.

I've read the stories out of Mexico where the thing kills people in the same day. I've also read that you can have the flu which leads to pneumonia which can go for 14+ days before it kills you.

The reason I'm asking is I'm doing a little math to try and figure out how many people should be dying off a day. Of course there is some lag time from infection to death.
 

Caplock50

I am the Winter Warrior
You can add "About 30 miles south of Texarkana' to the list of suspected cases. There's two cases being quarantined in my local hospital here now. It's not easing in the least. Btw, I'm in 'hunker and bunker' mode now. Ain't a'goin' nowhere fer a while. Real, live 'prep test' ongoing as I type.
 

Sky

Inactive
Of course it is easing. It's the weekend and folks gotta take a break. Too many samples to test. OK, so let's not bother testing.

Overload, overwhelmed, not prepared.

Besides, having sickness spread is bad for the economy. Sweep the bugs under the rug.

Weekend :spns: too many samples :spns: bad for economy :spns: Cascadians you hit the nail on the head!
 

maric

Short but deadly
No Dad it's not easing. As a matter of fact the school district not too far from me is now closed until the 11th. They were supposed to reopen Monday. And that 1 case isn't even confirmed yet!
 

momof23goats

Deceased
Public Urged Not to Let Guard Down in Flu Outbreak
Saturday , May 02, 2009



ADVERTISEMENTScores more schools around the United States have closed temporarily because of the swine flu outbreak as federal officials reported Saturday about two dozen new cases of swine flu had been confirmed.

There are signs that the virus isn't as ominous as once feared, but health officials warned Saturday the U.S. may not be out of the woods yet.

"While reports in Mexico appear encouraging, there should be some cautious optimism," said Dr. Anne Schuchat, interim deputy director for the Centers for Disease Control's Science and Public Health Program. "We can't afford to let our diligence down."

There has not yet been a sustained spread of H1N1 flu outside North America but a pandemic is still "imminent," a World Health Organization official said on Saturday.

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Michael Ryan, WHO Director of Global Alert and Response, said it remained probable that the alert level would be raised from its current level of 5 to the top of the 6-stage scale.

"We have no evidence of sustained community spread outside of North America," he told a news briefing at the U.N. agency's Geneva headquarters. "We are still at Phase 5.

President Obama said the U.S. is acting aggressively.

"This is a new strain of the flu virus, and because we haven't developed an immunity to it, it has more potential to cause us harm," the president said in his radio and Internet address Saturday. "Unlike the various strains of animal flu that have emerged in the past, it's a flu that is spreading from human to human. This creates the potential for a pandemic, which is why we are acting quickly and aggressively."

The government issued new guidance for schools with confirmed cases, saying they should close for at least 14 days because children can be contagious for seven to 10 days from when they get sick. That means parents can expect to have children at home for longer than previously thought.

Schuchat said the new guidance is reflective of new information showing the longer duration that a child might be infected.

"It takes longer to shed (the flu) in younger children than adults," Schuchat said.

The Education Department said that more than 430 schools had closed, affecting about 245,000 children in 18 states. That was about 100 more schools reported closed than reported on Thursday.

The latest developments in the flu scare — more intense in neighboring Mexico than in the United States — came as the CDC reported the virus had been confirmed in more U.S. states.

Confirmed cases had risen from 141 on Friday to 160 Saturday in 21 states, the CDC said. The U.S. death toll remained at one — the Mexican toddler who visited Texas with his family and died there.

Mexico has confirmed more than 300 swine flu cases and has 16 confirmed deaths, although reports have indicated that roughly 120 may have died from it.

Worldwide, the total confirmed cases numbered close to 600, although officials believe there are many more.

The CDC said that the virus was continuing to spread, though no faster than the rate of the regular winter flu.

"We think the cases do continue to occur," said CDC's Dr. Anne Schuchat. But CDC also said the new swine flu virus lacks genes that made the 1918 pandemic strain so deadly.

While emphasizing at a news conference that the closures to date represent a tiny fraction of the almost 100,000 schools in the country, Duncan instructed teachers, parents and students to be prepared if their school does close.

To teachers, Duncan said: "Think about reworking upcoming lesson plans so students can do their schoolwork at home if necessary."

To parents: "Learn about what they're learning at school. Keep them on task."

And to students: "Don't fall behind your peers at other schools that are still in session. Keep working hard."

Major U.S. airlines announced plans to curtail flights into flu-ravaged Mexico.

Many travelers have become increasingly concerned about going to Mexico, though authorities there said new cases were leveling off.

U.S. travelers have been advised to avoid nonessential travel to Mexico. Continental Airlines Inc., the biggest U.S. carrier to Mexico, said Friday it would halve the number of seats it sells to fly there. Delta Air Lines Inc. and UAL Corp.'s United Airlines also announced plans for reduced flights to Mexico, while smaller carriers were following suit.

Though most U.S. cases have been relatively mild and have not required a doctor's visit, U.S. precautions include shipping millions of doses of anti-flu drugs to states in case they're needed, replenishing the U.S. strategic stockpile with millions more treatment courses, and shipping 400,000 treatment courses to Mexico.

The Associated Press and Reuters contributed to this report.
 

momof23goats

Deceased
michigan-detroit news

Saturday, May 2, 2009
Four new probable swine flu cases in Michigan
Santiago Esparza / The Detroit News
The state health department has identified four more probable cases of swine flu in Michigan, bringing the total of people who may have contracted the illness to 20.

State officials said Saturday the cases are probably Influenza A (H1N1), but that tests by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have not been completed to know for sure.

Three of the new cases, commonly referred to as swine flu, were reported in Kent County and one in Muskegon County, according to a press release.

The previously reported probable cases were in Macomb County (two), Hillsdale County (one), Kent County ( three), and Ottawa County (10), according to the Michigan Department of Community Health.

In addition, two cases of swine flu have been confirmed, one each in Livingston and Ottawa counties, according to the state.

Ottawa County's probable cases affect a group of students from Hope College. Officials of the county's health department said they are cooperating with a state investigation and that the students appear to be doing well.

Classes and campus events have not been cancelled because of the discovery of the sickened students, health department officials said in a statement issued Friday.

The Macomb case forced officials with L'Anse Creuse High School to cancel classes after a student there was thought to exhibit symptoms consistent with swine flu.

The flu has hit countries around the globe and has resulted in at least one death in the United States.

For information, call the United Way's 211 line or visit www.michigan.gov.swineflu.

sesparza@detnews.com (313) 222-2320








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SassyinAZ

Inactive
I really don't care about the semantics. Personally I prefer the term HAMTHRAX which I saw on the ticker forum.

I've read the stories out of Mexico where the thing kills people in the same day. I've also read that you can have the flu which leads to pneumonia which can go for 14+ days before it kills you.

The reason I'm asking is I'm doing a little math to try and figure out how many people should be dying off a day. Of course there is some lag time from infection to death.

I only want to add this to this thread because some of what I've read on the main is very concernng.

The little boy that died in Texas, he was 19 days from symptoms to death.

The women from Kentucky, hospitalized ICU in Georgia, was 8 days walking and travelling about with symptoms before severe enough for hospitalization.

So, I think your 14 day estimate is getting close.
 

Digital Omnivore

Veteran Member
I only want to add this to this thread because some of what I've read on the main is very concernng.

The little boy that died in Texas, he was 19 days from symptoms to death.

The women from Kentucky, hospitalized ICU in Georgia, was 8 days walking and travelling about with symptoms before severe enough for hospitalization.

So, I think your 14 day estimate is getting close.

I'll post some of my numbers, even though it's a primitive calculation.

Here are the assumptions I used:

We start with one infected person.

The number of people infected doubles daily.

The fatality rate is 1%

People don't die until 14 days after infection.

I stopped counting infections on day 29, since they exceed the population of the United States.


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Of course, this is all speculation. There is nothing that says the infection rate will double daily, nor do I know the fatality rate. I just found it interesting that this flu could stay in your system for 2-7 days without displaying symptoms, and if it didn't kill you for 14 days it would be awhile before we saw a significant fatality rate.

In the real world the infected time before death would probably vary. I'm just assuming 14 days. Also a 1% fatality ratio is probably high in the US. Still, if you looked at the numbers doubling like they were earlier this week, the government, CDC and the WHO are all taking the actions they should and not over-reacting imo.
 
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lafrteacher

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Louisiana now has 14 confirmed.
Snipped from my other post:

* By MARSHA SILLS
* Advocate Acadiana bureau
* Published: May 2, 2009 - Page: 4A

LAFAYETTE — More confirmations of Type A influenza didn’t close schools Friday, but officials at closed parochial schools are taking a wait-and-see approach before deciding if students will return Monday.

So far, at least 14 confirmed cases of Type A influenza, the same type that causes the highly contagious H1N1 virus or swine flu, have been reported among schoolchildren in the Lafayette area.

**************************
We had a teacher become suddenly ill Thursday at my school, and students becoming ill on Friday.
 

BlueNewton

Membership Revoked
I'll post some of my numbers, even though it's a primitive calculation.

Here are the assumptions I used:

We start with one infected person.

The number of people infected doubles daily.

The fatality rate is 1%

People don't die until 14 days after infection.

I stopped counting infections on day 29, since they exceed the population of the United States.


picture10u.png


:eek:
 

SIRR1

Inactive
H1N1

Yesterday when I spoke to my County's Health dept Director here in Southwestern Illinois on official business she stated that as of Friday morning Illinois has 21 confirmed H1N1 cases with more to come.

Now this morning I open my Saturday News paper and the headline is 85 probable and 3 confirmed H1N1 cases in Illinois?

http://www.bnd.com/372/story/752675.html

Yesterday the director stated that this Flu, H1N1 is expected to mutate and hit us again this fall.

I guess we will have to wait and see...

SIRR1
 

WildDaisy

God has a plan, Trust it!
H1N1 doesn't kill anyone.

The swine flu killed people within 16 hours.


Um, they are one and the same.

Swine flu is H1N1. Avian flu is H5N1.

And there are at least 35,000 in Mexico alone that are sick waiting for test results. So although they have confirmed 358 cases in test results, they are backlogged with 35,000 others waiting for their results.
 

SassyinAZ

Inactive
I'll post some of my numbers, even though it's a primitive calculation.

Here are the assumptions I used:

We start with one infected person.

The number of people infected doubles daily.

The fatality rate is 1%

People don't die until 14 days after infection.

I stopped counting infections on day 29, since they exceed the population of the United States.


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:eek:

wow, thanks for that, Omnivore -- if you can believe the number of probable cases now awaiting confirmation (official numbers that is compared to, for instance, there are 396 suspected cases in Nueces TX right now), that puts us between 8/9 days on your chart, which is about right.

Check out this summary chart and numbers from the RSOE EDIS Pandemic Monitoring System [PMS] out of Hungary:
http://www.idemc.org/read/index.php?pageid=event_index
 

Digital Omnivore

Veteran Member
wow, thanks for that, Omnivore -- if you can believe the number of probable cases now awaiting confirmation (official numbers that is compared to, for instance, there are 396 suspected cases in Nueces TX right now), that puts us between 8/9 days on your chart, which is about right.

Check out this summary chart and numbers from the RSOE EDIS Pandemic Monitoring System [PMS] out of Hungary:
http://www.idemc.org/read/index.php?pageid=event_index

I call shenanigans on the Mexican government. RSOE EDIS had 16,000 a few days ago, and now is reporting 3825. I'm guessing it is due to the Mexican government revising their numbers down.

It's hard to trust what is coming out of the Mexican government at this point. They report no cases in Cancun, yet we have kids coming back from there with H1N1. In addition they won't even release all of the ages/genders of the people who passed away.

Something doesn't add up. Hopefully it's just incompetence on their part.
 

Hansa44

Justine Case
I call shenanigans on the Mexican government. RSOE EDIS had 16,000 a few days ago, and now is reporting 3825. I'm guessing it is due to the Mexican government revising their numbers down.

It's hard to trust what is coming out of the Mexican government at this point. They report no cases in Cancun, yet we have kids coming back from there with H1N1. In addition they won't even release all of the ages/genders of the people who passed away.

Something doesn't add up. Hopefully it's just incompetence on their part.


They are trying to save their economy and will lie big time to do it.

We will do it (and we are) in this country too.

Mexico said things are greatly improving there, and we know it's a lie, but all those that depend on the MSM for news will let down their guard and continue with their vacation and holiday (memorial day) plans believing all is well.
 

mslucky

Inactive
I posted this as a thread but it came up with incomplete title and I couldn't figure out how to fix it.

Anyway, it seems appropriate here.

Swine H1N1 Transmission From Human to Swine
Recombinomics Commentary 07:10
May 3, 2009


The pigs in Alberta were thought to be infected by a farm worker who returned from Mexico on April 12 and began working on the farm two days later. Officials noticed the pigs had flu-like symptoms April 24, Evans said.

Approximately 10 percent of the 2,200 pigs on the farm have been infected, Evans said.

The above comments describe the transmission of the H1N1 swine flu from an infected farm worker to swine in Alberta, Canada. This efficient transmission from human to swine suggests that much of the speculation in the past week is overly optimistic.

The virus is swine, WHO newspeak notwithstanding, and contains six swine gene segments as well as a human PB1 and an avian PB2 that have been in swine for more than a decade. Therefore, although swine to swine transmission is not unexpected, the trans mission from human to swine is striking. The H1N1 is called swine H1N1 for scientific reason. It is not a “nickname” as some media accounts mis-report, but a descriptive name that defines its normal host. The species differences in sequence are easily determined, and species jumps are rare, but can be deadly. Usually the virus replicates most effectively in is host species.

The jump to humans is cause for concern. The last time as swine flu jumped to human and was efficiently spread in the new host was in 1918.

The fact that the virus can jump from human to swine as well as swine to humans suggests this virus is not going to fade away. It has already moved into the southern hemisphere. Suspect cases have been reported in Brazil, Australia, and New Zealand, where the seasonal flu season is just beginning.

Co-circulation of human and swine H1N1 provide significant opportunities for adaptation to the human host via recombination. Two polymorphisms are already fixed in seasonal flu, H274Y for Tamiflu resistance, and E627K in PB2 which allows the virus to more efficiently replicate at lower temperatures.

These changes can lead to adaptation in humans, as well antiviral resistance. Therefore, the evolution of the H1N1 over the summer will be closely monitored. The current H1N1 has already acquired tandem human H1N1 polymorphism in HA, which may have led to the species jump from swine to human.

Thus, the efficient transmission from swine to human and vice verse, raises concerns that further adaptation to humans can lead to a fall pandemic similar to 1918. The species jump indicates the virus can adapt to a new host, and additional acquisitions over the summer continue to be a cause for concern.
http://www.recombinomics.com/News/05030901/Swine_H1N1_H2S.html
 

Hansa44

Justine Case
mslucky,

When you want to change your thread title, first click on "edit" on your post, then click on "go advanced" .
Then youll be able to change stuff in the title.
 

Trivium Pursuit

Has No Life - Lives on TB
To my surprise, the local paper had a section on the flu today, even indicating parallels with the 1918 Spanish flu. Which, they pointed out, started in the Spring... btw, in Cincinnati, the 1918 outbreak killed over 4,000 people.
 

Anjou

Inactive
I'll post some of my numbers, even though it's a primitive calculation.

Here are the assumptions I used:

We start with one infected person.

The number of people infected doubles daily.

The fatality rate is 1%

People don't die until 14 days after infection.

I stopped counting infections on day 29, since they exceed the population of the United States.

See, THIS general concept of progression is the thing the public and plenty of people in the medical profession don't really get about how epidemics and pandemics happen. And this is why the pandemic response planners are the seemingly alarmist bunch they are.

Tons of unknowns of course, and we can hope it really is milder outside Mexico. But I don't know that they know of anything that would naturally stop its spread. (One part I don't quite get is how, ultimately, less than 100% of the population can wind up infected. I understand that with regard to flus that there is some immunity to already/ Nut even if this one ended up killing very few outside Mexico, if it's as contagious as it sounds like it is, then how would anyone not get it, who isn't in the South Pole or on the space station, since no one who hasn't had it has any immunity to it? I need to read up on that.)
 
"(official numbers that is compared to, for instance, there are 396 suspected cases in Nueces TX right now)"

Sassy...where did you find those figures? I've been checking Texas often and they are not coming up. For Nueces to have that many, there are bound to be thousands here in the Houston area. I knew that things were being under-reported...the 10 o'clock news announced a "suspected" case in Liberty, TX tonight--but I'd heard that there was one confirmed case and 25 (at least) suspected cases in that tiny town.
 
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