CORONA You can do everything right....and still get the 'Rona.

ShadowMan

Designated Grumpy Old Fart
Just got through reading the Covid thread on what's going on in Israel. Very high vaccination rate, probably the highest in the world right now, but now also a climbing infection/reinfection rate, with Positive tests running one out of three tests are positive. So what are they doing wrong.....probably NOTHING!!

OK, DW, Mrs. Shadow came down with something really bad that first part of January 2020 after returning from Europe from visiting our kids and grand-kids there. Caught it on the plane and nearly ended up in the E/R. Very pneumonia/bronchitis like and we home treated it with Tincture of Elderberry, high dose Vit-C, Vit-D, Zinc and Z-Pak. This was before Covid was basically known. We suspect she might have caught the original Covid on the flight home from Europe.

Time goes on, thankfully, she had no "long haul" symptoms, but it did take a while before she felt 100%. We masked, isolated ourselves (not hard to do living on a mountain) and eventually get two Maderna vax's and a booster. We both reacted strongly to the initial vax's, DW especially hard on the second Maderna. She was down for about a week and a half. No real reaction to the booster for either of us. We've both been very careful on contacts and wearing N95 masks when in public.

Two weeks ago I went to our church's Men's Breakfast and two of the people there had "supposedly" just recovered from 'rona. Five days later I start showing symptoms. Not bad, but we had home tests and BINGO I come up positive, DW was negative. It tried to get into my lungs but we were already on the FLCCC Prevention protocols with Ivermectin, Vit-C, Vit-D, Quercetin, Zinc, Melatonin and gargle mouthwash.

Basically I've been fighting a bad "head cold" and upped the Ivermectin and added Hydroxycholoroquine to the regimen. That seems to have knocked this down to just a regular "head cold" level with a bit of fatigue. Night sweats once early on and little or no fever during this time. DW had only a short period of swore throat and went on FLCCC treatment protocols for five days and is now asymptomatic....so far and tested negative twice. I'm getting much better and stronger everyday, resolving symptoms, but have no reserves, and have twice tested positive ten days apart. WTF?!?!

So as far as I can see we've followed all the recommended protocols and prevention efforts (from both sides of the fence). Our advantage was being foresighted enough to have ordered both N95 masks and FLCCC meds early on well before they were actually needed, we have no comorbidities, not overweight, not diabetic, etc., yet still.....got the damn thing, thankfully not the full blown deadly version.

The bottom line is it doesn't seem to matter what you do, how careful you are, how isolated you stay.....you're still going to get exposed and have to deal with this crap! The only thing I can say regarding this whole event is to be as prepared as you can, avoid exposure as much as possible, have what you need to take care of yourself BEFORE you need it and be aggressive in your treatment if it does show up.

Better to have and not need....than to need and not have!

SO.....can we NUKE CHINA NOW?!?! We need to boycott and isolate CHINA until they get their shitte together and stop infecting the world!
 

OldArcher

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Just got through reading the Covid thread on what's going on in Israel. Very high vaccination rate, probably the highest in the world right now, but now also a climbing infection/reinfection rate, with Positive tests running one out of three tests are positive. So what are they doing wrong.....probably NOTHING!!

OK, DW, Mrs. Shadow came down with something really bad that first part of January 2020 after returning from Europe from visiting our kids and grand-kids there. Caught it on the plane and nearly ended up in the E/R. Very pneumonia/bronchitis like and we home treated it with Tincture of Elderberry, high dose Vit-C, Vit-D, Zinc and Z-Pak. This was before Covid was basically known. We suspect she might have caught the original Covid on the flight home from Europe.

Time goes on, thankfully, she had no "long haul" symptoms, but it did take a while before she felt 100%. We masked, isolated ourselves (not hard to do living on a mountain) and eventually get two Maderna vax's and a booster. We both reacted strongly to the initial vax's, DW especially hard on the second Maderna. She was down for about a week and a half. No real reaction to the booster for either of us. We've both been very careful on contacts and wearing N95 masks when in public.

Two weeks ago I went to our church's Men's Breakfast and two of the people there had "supposedly" just recovered from 'rona. Five days later I start showing symptoms. Not bad, but we had home tests and BINGO I come up positive, DW was negative. It tried to get into my lungs but we were already on the FLCCC Prevention protocols with Ivermectin, Vit-C, Vit-D, Quercetin, Zinc, Melatonin and gargle mouthwash.

Basically I've been fighting a bad "head cold" and upped the Ivermectin and added Hydroxycholoroquine to the regimen. That seems to have knocked this down to just a regular "head cold" level with a bit of fatigue. Night sweats once early on and little or no fever during this time. DW had only a short period of swore throat and went on FLCCC treatment protocols for five days and is now asymptomatic....so far and tested negative twice. I'm getting much better and stronger everyday, resolving symptoms, but have no reserves, and have twice tested positive ten days apart. WTF?!?!

So as far as I can see we've followed all the recommended protocols and prevention efforts (from both sides of the fence). Our advantage was being foresighted enough to have ordered both N95 masks and FLCCC meds early on well before they were actually needed, we have no comorbidities, not overweight, not diabetic, etc., yet still.....got the damn thing, thankfully not the full blown deadly version.

The bottom line is it doesn't seem to matter what you do, how careful you are, how isolated you stay.....you're still going to get exposed and have to deal with this crap! The only thing I can say regarding this whole event is to be as prepared as you can, avoid exposure as much as possible, have what you need to take care of yourself BEFORE you need it and be aggressive in your treatment if it does show up.

Better to have and not need....than to need and not have!

SO.....can we NUKE CHINA NOW?!?! We need to boycott and isolate CHINA until they get their shitte together and stop infecting the world!

It’s an equal opportunity killer. Likewise, it is unconcerned with race, color, creed, or any other subdivision or human endeavor. The race it attacks, is the Human Race. We’re all in it’s crosshairs. Never forget, if you’re alive, you’re at risk…

OA
 

medic38572

TB Fanatic
SO.....can we NUKE CHINA NOW?!?! We need to boycott and isolate CHINA until they get their shitte together and stop infecting the world!

Why would you nuke china? Its been proven over and over our government paid to have this created. Blame Obama and Fouchi both have visited the lab. It was created to get rid of people like you your wife and myself first. So says many. But many more say it was the vaccine that was killing many more. The proof that no one in the world has blamed and or nuked china or even spoke against it shows that many governments are accomplices or complicit to this agenda.
 

Kathy in FL

Administrator
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Or you can be as lackadaisical as imaginable and still not get it.

I have no clue what attracts this crap but apparently it doesn't like anyone in our household. We've had people all around us test positive but thus far we are rona-free.

I'm not being a flippant as that likely sounds. I'm grateful and feel blessed but I just haven't had the time to put much effort into the whole rona-boogie. Rarely masked up and never do it now. No extra supplements beyond what we've been taking all along for other issues. No more disinfecting than we've normally done (people can be gross whether they think they are or not). I've actually been in the field more the last two years than I have been in a while which has meant exponentially more exposures. I have two adult kids in healthcare (one lives at home and the other might as well as often as he is over here eating my food and using my washer).

You can do everything right and still get it. And the reverse of that appears to be true as well.
 

bracketquant

Veteran Member
I follow my protocols, not recommended ones. I limit being near the same "stranger", indoors, to under a minute, keeping more than a 6 foot distance. Outdoors in the sun, I'll talk to someone much longer. I've yet to meet anyone who believes that they have had Covid.
 

Cyclonemom

Veteran Member
Yep, I've been saying that from the beginning.

We all gonna get it. Over and over again, because Corona viruses mutate, quickly.

So just like having your get home/bug out bags made up and ready, you should also have a Corona kit ready.

That INCLUDES optimizing your health and immune system. Eat high quality whole foods, decrease or better yet eliminate the high processed stuff. Drop some weight. Fine tune your supplement regimen (or start one if you don't take anything). Stop being sedentary! Get outside and exercise, if it you only start by walking to the mailbox.
 

DazedandConfused

Veteran Member
How fast can you catch CV again? My gf had it back in Dec 2021 just before Christmas and was well after about 5 days. I got it tested pos of Jan 3 2022 .GF came down with something last few days and is sick as a dog now, even worse than before. Fever that is hard to bring down 101-103 nausea and chill. I think its the normal every year flu but this is acting weird for the common flu.
 

#1 oldskool

"You finally really did it. You maniacs!
Corona virus...is a form of the common cold. Folks have been dying from 'cold' complications for 1000's of years. Get used to it, adapt, and some poor souls will die, thus fulfilling, the 3 axioms. You get old, you pay taxes, and you die! "It is appointed, once to man........" It is biblical!
 

To-late

Membership Revoked
Just got through reading the Covid thread on what's going on in Israel. Very high vaccination rate, probably the highest in the world right now, but now also a climbing infection/reinfection rate, with Positive tests running one out of three tests are positive. So what are they doing wrong.....probably NOTHING!!

OK, DW, Mrs. Shadow came down with something really bad that first part of January 2020 after returning from Europe from visiting our kids and grand-kids there. Caught it on the plane and nearly ended up in the E/R. Very pneumonia/bronchitis like and we home treated it with Tincture of Elderberry, high dose Vit-C, Vit-D, Zinc and Z-Pak. This was before Covid was basically known. We suspect she might have caught the original Covid on the flight home from Europe.

Time goes on, thankfully, she had no "long haul" symptoms, but it did take a while before she felt 100%. We masked, isolated ourselves (not hard to do living on a mountain) and eventually get two Maderna vax's and a booster. We both reacted strongly to the initial vax's, DW especially hard on the second Maderna. She was down for about a week and a half. No real reaction to the booster for either of us. We've both been very careful on contacts and wearing N95 masks when in public.

Two weeks ago I went to our church's Men's Breakfast and two of the people there had "supposedly" just recovered from 'rona. Five days later I start showing symptoms. Not bad, but we had home tests and BINGO I come up positive, DW was negative. It tried to get into my lungs but we were already on the FLCCC Prevention protocols with Ivermectin, Vit-C, Vit-D, Quercetin, Zinc, Melatonin and gargle mouthwash.

Basically I've been fighting a bad "head cold" and upped the Ivermectin and added Hydroxycholoroquine to the regimen. That seems to have knocked this down to just a regular "head cold" level with a bit of fatigue. Night sweats once early on and little or no fever during this time. DW had only a short period of swore throat and went on FLCCC treatment protocols for five days and is now asymptomatic....so far and tested negative twice. I'm getting much better and stronger everyday, resolving symptoms, but have no reserves, and have twice tested positive ten days apart. WTF?!?!

So as far as I can see we've followed all the recommended protocols and prevention efforts (from both sides of the fence). Our advantage was being foresighted enough to have ordered both N95 masks and FLCCC meds early on well before they were actually needed, we have no comorbidities, not overweight, not diabetic, etc., yet still.....got the damn thing, thankfully not the full blown deadly version.

The bottom line is it doesn't seem to matter what you do, how careful you are, how isolated you stay.....you're still going to get exposed and have to deal with this crap! The only thing I can say regarding this whole event is to be as prepared as you can, avoid exposure as much as possible, have what you need to take care of yourself BEFORE you need it and be aggressive in your treatment if it does show up.

Better to have and not need....than to need and not have!

SO.....can we NUKE CHINA NOW?!?! We need to boycott and isolate CHINA until they get their shitte together and stop infecting the world!
I think nuking China is a bad idea. They are just people there.
Just like us and the rest of the world. I can’t get behind an event that will destroy innocents.
but,,,,I can really get behind hunting down and removing those people who created this bug, and their likes,,, the ones that are really behind this viral event.
Those,oh so special people, on all sides of this issue.
 

Cyclonemom

Veteran Member
How fast can you catch CV again? My gf had it back in Dec 2021 just before Christmas and was well after about 5 days. I got it tested pos of Jan 3 2022 .GF came down with something last few days and is sick as a dog now, even worse than before. Fever that is hard to bring down 101-103 nausea and chill. I think its the normal every year flu but this is acting weird for the common flu.
Every one of our employees that had covid from November on came down with a second illness 3-5 weeks after recovery from covid. They all needed more time off. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE.

Many said it was worse than covid.

I don't know what this rebound illness is. But it is repeatable. And never discussed on the interwebs that I can find.
 

DazedandConfused

Veteran Member
Every one of our employees that had covid from November on came down with a second illness 3-5 weeks after recovery from covid. They all needed more time off. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE.

Many said it was worse than covid.

I don't know what this rebound illness is. But it is repeatable. And never discussed on the interwebs that I can find.
Thats what my GF said this is way worse than covid. We just tested her with a home test Neg result.
 

ShadowMan

Designated Grumpy Old Fart
During my naval career I operated throughout Asia and other nasty parts of the world that had diseases, parasites and other disgusting things that IF you knew were there you wouldn't go within a THOUSAND MILES of those places. CHINA is one of those places. It's a cesspool of disease and a breeding ground for only GOD KNOWS WHAT! I am not against the Chinese people....but any government that dabbles in Bio-Weapons needs to go and GO NOW!

Yes...those individuals and organization that are responsible for this GAIN OF FUNCTION and other disgusting research need to be hunted down and flayed alive. There is absolutely no excuse for this kind of research. IT'S BIOWARFARE....plain and simple.
 

#1 oldskool

"You finally really did it. You maniacs!
Mayhaps.........hear me out before taking up pitchforks and torches,,, that folks have figured out how to play the system. Before, runny nose meant 3 days out of work. What if........now a runny nose means 10-14 days ! ;)
 

DazedandConfused

Veteran Member
Mayhaps.........hear me out before taking up pitchforks and torches,,, that folks have figured out how to play the system. Before, runny nose meant 3 days out of work. What if........now a runny nose means 10-14 days ! ;)
My company its 5days but you have to have a POS test
 

ShadowMan

Designated Grumpy Old Fart
I'm totally RETIRED, so I'm totally not in the system. This shitte is REAL. It nearly killed a very good friend of mine that spent several MONTHS on a ventilator and two years later is still recovering. THANK GOD this new variant is not as deadly and hopefully it will continue to evolve into nothing more than a common cold. But even then should not be ignored.

My bitch is that we have people playing with nature to make this crap more deadly. That has got to stop!!
 

Heliobas Disciple

TB Fanatic
Every one of our employees that had covid from November on came down with a second illness 3-5 weeks after recovery from covid. They all needed more time off. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE.

Many said it was worse than covid.

I don't know what this rebound illness is. But it is repeatable. And never discussed on the interwebs that I can find.

YES, this. I have read about this in multiple places. I suggested to psychgirl on her thread that this may be what she was experiencing. And I too have heard/read that you don't test positive for the rebound illness. Maybe it's a double-shot virus, it has a component that 'sleeps' for a few weeks then surfaces (? - not a scientist, so trying to describe what may have a better scientific explanation)

HD
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Yep seeing lots of commercials featuring nurses, doctors, etc, begging people to get vaccinated so that they won’t be so overworked.

The problem is I hav3 a lot of friends in the hospital right now that have been double vaxxed and boostered, who have covid.
 

theoriginaldeb

Still A Geology Fanatic
YES, this. I have read about this in multiple places. I suggested to psychgirl on her thread that this may be what she was experiencing. And I too have heard/read that you don't test positive for the rebound illness. Maybe it's a double-shot virus, it has a component that 'sleeps' for a few weeks then surfaces (? - not a scientist, so trying to describe what may have a better scientific explanation)

HD


retro virus? Active and dormant phases?
 

bracketquant

Veteran Member
During my naval career I operated throughout Asia and other nasty parts of the world that had diseases, parasites and other disgusting things that IF you knew were there you wouldn't go within a THOUSAND MILES of those places. CHINA is one of those places. It's a cesspool of disease and a breeding ground for only GOD KNOWS WHAT! I am not against the Chinese people....but any government that dabbles in Bio-Weapons needs to go and GO NOW!

Yes...those individuals and organization that are responsible for this GAIN OF FUNCTION and other disgusting research need to be hunted down and flayed alive. There is absolutely no excuse for this kind of research. IT'S BIOWARFARE....plain and simple.

"...but any government that dabbles in Bio-Weapons needs to go and GO NOW!"

Uh, perhaps you should read about research at North Carolina, Chapel Hill
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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How fast can you catch CV again? My gf had it back in Dec 2021 just before Christmas and was well after about 5 days. I got it tested pos of Jan 3 2022 .GF came down with something last few days and is sick as a dog now, even worse than before. Fever that is hard to bring down 101-103 nausea and chill. I think its the normal every year flu but this is acting weird for the common flu.
See, THIS is when a test would be a good idea, if only to have some idea what you're dealing with...

Summerthyme
 

abby normal

insert appropriate adjective here
How fast can you catch CV again? My gf had it back in Dec 2021 just before Christmas and was well after about 5 days. I got it tested pos of Jan 3 2022 .GF came down with something last few days and is sick as a dog now, even worse than before. Fever that is hard to bring down 101-103 nausea and chill. I think its the normal every year flu but this is acting weird for the common flu.
In early January 2020 I had it and it was awful . I was not tested because there were no tests yet.

Recovered , then early March I got it again. It was so bad I went to the ER, which only happens if I think I'm dying (I did). By that time they had some tests but you had to meet certain criteria , and I was not feverish (during the ER visit ) nor did I have lung issues ... so I was not tested .

Had it a third time this past new year's eve, another 2 weeks until I started feeling right . Still can't smell .

My supplement game is strong and I eat healthy , and am active . Didn't matter .

Hope your GF feels better soon!
 

cheyenneplateau

Dove Chocolate tastes way better than their soap.
Exactly 3 weeks ago I got covid. Variant unknown. add a dash of pnuemonia. Prior to that I had been taking Ivermectin as a prophylaxis. Religiously. I had been taking all the suggested supplements, D, C, Quercetin, Zinc, Im not exposed to a lot of people. I dont work outside the home. Dont go to church. When I got it, It spread to my family like wildfire. Everyone but my husband, who we THINK got it in Dec 2019 before it was announced. We think the antibodies he got have kept him well thus far. Plus he has been working himself to death on the job sites as he now has no help. By all stress levels he should be dropped right now. Blessed he is still going of his own strong will.
I have been on Ivermectin, then 2 rounds of Hydroxychloroquine. Z pak, Doxycycline, Montelukast, 2 steroid shots, 3 Meyers cocktail blood infusions, Nebulizer breathing treatments of Budesonide (which DID NOT help and packed it back in my lungs).
What turned the corner for me 2 days after using it twice a day: Colloidal silver and liquid pharm grade acetylcystine mixed in a nebulizer. IT was miraculous to take a deep breath and not cough. I will continue to have meyers coctail infusions 2 x this week. It is making a big difference in my healing.
After week 2 I still had no change and was getting so depressed, feeling I would NEVER get better. This virus messes with your mind (along with all the hype) You wonder if "this is it"? You dont feel better. You feel alone, abandoned. I was angry for A WEEK, I mean spitting, cussing, slamming doors, angry. The frustration level was horrific. The anxiety was bad at times. Ive never been sick and felt this way before.
For the first time in 3 weeks I AM getting better. My mind is finally clearing. Ive been able to do paperwork and pay 3 weeks of bills for our business that I left alone. (Luckily work from home).
Please dont mistake this as a "poor me" post. I wanted to share this and tell anyone else out there that its really, really hard to go through this and dont give up. You can make it. But you have to be your own advocate. Traditional medicine and pharm. will only get you so far. You have to dig deeper into the optional treatments. My whole goal is to stay out of the hospital. I am blessed to be a part of the Genesis Center here in Georgia. They treat people for cancer, Lyme, and people fly in from even Canada to be treated. My daughter has been treated for Lyme there. As a Rule, I go there once a month for Meyers cocktail, nutritionals way before covid. If I had not had their help with the liquid Acetylcystine/ colloidal Silver Nebulizer treatment they recommended I would not be as well as I am right now. I would still be coughing. Please keep trying folks. If someone needs to hear this, DONT give up. DONT give in.
 

Displaced hillbilly

Veteran Member
DH tested positive 1/5/22, had fever for five days, felt generally crappy for about ten days. Then I got it, took about ten days for me to feel better (ended up with sinus infection). Yesterday hubby was achy and congested. Not feeling well. Hoping this is milder and not worse.. both of us are not jabbed.
 

BUBBAHOTEPT

Veteran Member
Or you can be as lackadaisical as imaginable and still not get it.
I resemble that :shr: . I have no clue why I don’t have antibodies. Other than putting on a fake mask to pacify whomever, my life hasn’t changed at all. I am not and never have been some Immuno King, so I haven’t a clue as to what is going on. I use Clorox, Comet, wash my hands, etc., exactly as I was taught by my mother, Mr. Rogers, and the United States Army. 3 meter separation has always been my go to since waiting in the chow line, at least I try. The only consistent supplement has been D3/K2 for the last 2 years along with quality Omega3 -of course I have all the protocols, as recommended here and elsewhere, ready to pull the trigger on. So, I don’t have a clue. My latest experience was driving a car with an Omicron infected, sneezing, coughing person for an hour and a half after picking them up from an airport. I don’t know how much more lackadaisical I could be.
OMT, I do have sinus issues and constantly clear the nasal passages so I don’t know what could stay too long to infect that area, Just Sayin … :hmm:
 

Kathy in FL

Administrator
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DH tested positive 1/5/22, had fever for five days, felt generally crappy for about ten days. Then I got it, took about ten days for me to feel better (ended up with sinus infection). Yesterday hubby was achy and congested. Not feeling well. Hoping this is milder and not worse.. both of us are not jabbed.

Just remember, after any illness your immune system is basically trashed so you are more vulnerable to anything going around. Influenza is still around as is some kind of creeping crud that people are mistaking for flu or covid. And just a plain ol' cold virus will knock you on your can as well.
 

Displaced hillbilly

Veteran Member
Just remember, after any illness your immune system is basically trashed so you are more vulnerable to anything going around. Influenza is still around as is some kind of creeping crud that people are mistaking for flu or covid. And just a plain ol' cold virus will knock you on your can as well.
He is fine now, could have been from him sleeping with is his face in our couch that has dog fur on it. Just hoping he stays healthy.
 
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