CORONA Yale Epidemiologist Stunner — 60% of new Covid patients have been already vaccinated

Tristan

Tristan

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I suppose the most benign explanation is that the those first innoculated were those among the most susceptible, and if the 60% statistic holds true then it indicated a failed vaccine or mutated virus. (to me at least...)

Other, less benign possibilities exist, as well I also suppose.
 
Dobbin

Dobbin

Faithful Steed
Politifact addresses this subject, and the Yale Professor.

But they don't get it right.

Read the article and get their drift. PolitiFact - No, vaccinated people don’t make up 60% of new COVID-19 cases

Where Politifact fails is characterizing the efficacy of the vaccine at "60 percent of ALL cases."

This is not true. The Yale Professor says "60 percent of hospitalized cases." (i.e. the worst cases.)

CDC number sort of confirm this but the numbers of hospitalizations they reference at this link is from 2020. There are probably better links. Hospitalization Rates and Characteristics of Patients Hospitalized ...

Suffice to say the good professor is probably correct. And the efficacy of the vaccine is not that good - BY DESIGN.

It's designed to "lessen" the effects of Covid and "shave the peak."

Dobbin
 
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poppy

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bw said:
60% is more than the jabbed population. This suggests that the WuFlu is preferentially attacking the jabbed.
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Yep, and I think that is BS from all the data I've seen. At some point the vaccination numbers might get high enough that it might be true but vaccine numbers are no where near high enough. Cases and deaths are dropping in every country with the highest vaccine rates. Now if the guy in the video is talking to some medical provider in some city where 80% have been vaccinated ( but I doubt there is such a place) and he saw 10 cases and 6 had been vaccinated, then yea. I still will not take the jab but there is a lot of BS info out there from both sides.
 
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Barry Natchitoches

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I realize that TPTB are trying to keep mum about incidents where the jab causes people to have serious side effects, as well as those who are infected after they got the All Mighty Miracle Jab.

But if this 60% were an accurate figure, I don’t think even Goebbels himself could keep the word from leaking out.

It is for this reason that I doubt the accuracy of the numbers...
 
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poppy

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dstraito said:
If this 60% is true then I expect things to get a lot worse in short order.
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Look at Israel and the UK right now. Israel has the highest vaccination rate in the world, almost 60%, and they are down to an average of 1 or 2 deaths a day and fewer than 100 new cases per day. The UK started vaccinating well ahead of the EU and their cases and deaths are dropping pretty fast too while some EU countries with lower vaccination rates aren't doing so well. OTOH, India and some other countries with low vaccination rates are seeing cases and deaths skyrocket. I won't take the vaccine because I think they may cause long term problems, but for right now the data is what it is.
 
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intothatgoodnight

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poppy said:
Look at Israel and the UK right now. Israel has the highest vaccination rate in the world, almost 60%, and they are down to an average of 1 or 2 deaths a day and fewer than 100 new cases per day. The UK started vaccinating well ahead of the EU and their cases and deaths are dropping pretty fast too while some EU countries with lower vaccination rates aren't doing so well. OTOH, India and some other countries with low vaccination rates are seeing cases and deaths skyrocket. I won't take the vaccine because I think they may cause long term problems, but for right now the data is what it is.
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How would one know that the "data" noted is accurate and truthful?

Because "they" say it is?

Who is "they?"


intothegoodnight
 
TammyinWI

TammyinWI

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poppy said:
Look at Israel and the UK right now. Israel has the highest vaccination rate in the world, almost 60%, and they are down to an average of 1 or 2 deaths a day and fewer than 100 new cases per day. The UK started vaccinating well ahead of the EU and their cases and deaths are dropping pretty fast too while some EU countries with lower vaccination rates aren't doing so well. OTOH, India and some other countries with low vaccination rates are seeing cases and deaths skyrocket. I won't take the vaccine because I think they may cause long term problems, but for right now the data is what it is.
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I really have been wondering if their scientists developed a real vaccine over there.
 
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poppy

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intothatgoodnight said:
How would one know that the "data" noted is accurate and truthful?

Because "they" say it is?

Who is "they?"


intothegoodnight
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At least they have data to show. I suspect they are pretty accurate because they have some of the best healthcare scientists in the world, but it is hard to tell who is and isn't lying these days. But they do have data and that is way more than the guy in the OP has. He only says he has talked to some doctors or something who told him that. He doesn't name them or where they work, so how do you know he is telling the truth?
 
et2

et2

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I’ve posted this 3 times in the last 2 days. Even it’s own thread. Tell me what you see. April 28 is far right bottom of graph. Time line goes backwards going towards the left. Notice the huge spikes

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et2

et2

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I’m sure China lies .... but .... relative to the rest of the world


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DHR43

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Until the amplification number for PCR tests is published and verified/validated to be accurate, the number of 'cases' is 100% meaningless.
And I never (never), ever (ever) see that number. EVER.
'Cases' is meaningless.
'Deaths' are next to meaningless.
 
stop tyranny

stop tyranny

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Do not remember where I read it but I remember reading that the vaccine would make people more vulnerable to mutated versions of the virus and the symptoms would be more severe in those who did take the vaccine than those who did not.
Just remember many of those pushing the idea of mass vaccination are also globalists who openly state depopulation is the only way to create a sustainable planet.
 
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glennb6

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DHR43 said:
Until the amplification number for PCR tests is published and verified/validated to be accurate, the number of 'cases' is 100% meaningless.
And I never (never), ever (ever) see that number. EVER.
'Cases' is meaningless.
'Deaths' are next to meaningless.
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therein is the truth to the entire scam
 
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amarilla

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I personally know someone who had CoVid. Then she got a first shot. Got a fever of 107. Passed out and had other symptoms. She came to church yesterday. Double masks and still wants the 2nd shot. My view, her husband should have taken her to the hospital. She said she tried to fill out the registry for side effects but it keeps timing out. If it times out as she says, then there are probably more bad side effects and people aren't entering them due to the timing.
 
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Coulter

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ktrapper said:
Who can trust any of the data on either side? It’s manipulated in both directions.
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My guess is it's 100% manipulated on the left - and much less than 1% on the right.

Actually I'm concerned that your statement and others just like it - is a manipulation tactic from the left.

Clever for sure.
 
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