EBOLA What if lots of people had Ebola proof Blood

raven

TB Fanatic
What if lots of people had Ebola proof Blood
Comment: You are not likely to see much more on this aspect because Big Pharma does not want you to know.

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/eb...if-lots-people-have-ebola-proof-blood-n228346

As Ebola spreads out of control in West Africa, the World Health Organization reports a black market in blood from Ebola survivors. The epidemic is killing up to 70 percent of those who get sick, but the thousands who have survived have blood teeming with antibodies that protect them against infection again.

Ebola survivor Dr. Kent Brantly has donated serum to three other patients — fellow medical missionary Dr. Rick Sacra, NBC camera operator Ashoka Mukpo and Dallas nurse Nina Pham. No one knows if it’s helped, but in theory Brantly’s antibodies should have kick-started their immune responses.

Dr. Brantly Asks For 'Immediate Action' to Fight Ebola
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Because there’s no specific cure for Ebola, people are asking why not make blood available. Researchers in Texas say there may be an unexpected source: people with silent Ebola immunity.

“There is limited evidence from past outbreaks that suggests there probably are quite a few people who get exposed, who get infected, without ever developing symptoms and without ever developing illness but they develop immunity,” said Lauren Ancel Meyers, a professor in the Department of Integrative Biology at The University of Texas at Austin.

In other words, Ebola might be acting like its own vaccine.

Meyers hasn’t tested any blood herself, but she and her team went through published reports about studies done on Ebola patients. In some outbreaks, up to half of people at high risk of infection who were watched never got sick, but they had antibodies against Ebola in their blood.

“If this turns out to be true, there is widespread silent Ebola infection that is immunizing.”

The best evidence of this happening with Ebola was a study done during a 1996 outbreak in Gabon, when researchers monitored 24 contacts of known Ebola patients who never became sick. Eleven of them had antibodies to Ebola.

“If this turns out to be true, there is widespread silent Ebola infection that is immunizing,” Meyers said. “We should really investigate it further.”

It’s not unheard of. Immunologists know that people can get exposed to a virus and never become ill. One study showed that people in Peru appeared to have survived rabies — a virus believed to be virtually 100 percent fatal. One in 10 people tested had antibodies to rabies but many couldn’t recall having gotten sick.

World Health Organization officials have suggested hiring Ebola survivors to help treat the sick. In Sierra Leone, the United Nations is training survivors to help sick children, who often suffer through illness with no one to touch or comfort them.

“A key challenge that parents, care workers and many of us working on the Ebola response are facing is how to care for children who have been affected or infected with Ebola without putting their caregivers at risk,” Roeland Monasch, UNICEF Representative in Sierra Leone, said in a statement.

“One creative way to address this gap is to work with Ebola survivors who can provide these children with the love, care and attention they so badly need.”

Ebola's taken a serious toll on health care workers, infected more than 400 and killing more than 200 of them. British nurse Will Pooley has said he's heading back to West Africa to help after he survived Ebola, and has noted that he is now almost certainly immune to the virus.

“Ultimately, knowing whether a large segment of the population in the afflicted regions are immune to Ebola could save lives,” said Steve Bellan, who worked with Meyers on the letter published in the Lancet medical Journal. “If we can reliably identify who they are, they could become people who help with disease-control tasks, and that would prevent exposing others who aren't immune."

Or their blood could be used to treat the ill, if that approach turns out to in fact help patients survive.
 

Plain Jane

Just Plain Jane
I remember reading a study about this. It was thought that the people came into contact with bat saliva or feces while collecting fruits in the uplands forests of Africa. The people had antibodies and they most they remember is having severe flu type symptoms at some point in their lives. It was thought that the viral load in the fruit was very small in these cases.
 

raven

TB Fanatic
This would explain why the people that shared Thomas Duncan's apartment in Dallas did not become infected. They were already immune.
 

medic38572

TB Fanatic
This would explain why the people that shared Thomas Duncan's apartment in Dallas did not become infected. They were already immune.

Either they were immune or they are already dead and have been incinerated as I have not heard a thing about them since they were placed in quarantine.
 

Masterchief117

I'm all about the doom
Of course, they are talking about Africans having this immunity because that is where all of the previous outbreaks have occurred. In a population that has never been exposed to Ebola, like the US, well it doesn't look good.

Of course, we have to ask about different strains of Ebola. Does exposure and recovery from one strain grant immunity or even partial immunity to another?
 

raven

TB Fanatic
Raven - I would love to think that, but I need to see them happy and healthy on live TV first.

agreed. No argument on that point. I would think they would parade them up and down the street saying "look here - Ebola hard to get"

Which also adds evidence to the theory that "they want you to have a specific level of anxiety just short of panic"
 

Plain Jane

Just Plain Jane
agreed. No argument on that point. I would think they would parade them up and down the street saying "look here - Ebola hard to get"

Which also adds evidence to the theory that "they want you to have a specific level of anxiety just short of panic"


In fact, the longer it takes to produce the family, the more political snafus will result!I also want to see Nurse's Pham and Vincent contacts. If they don't turn up that may tell us more!
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Raven - I would love to think that, but I need to see them happy and healthy on live TV first.

And like a year from now!

But this actually doesn't surprise me, my great great grandmother survived the Spanish Flu epidemic in 1918 (I think that's when it was) as did her future husband. Her future husbands wife and their six children all died from the flu. Research has now show that some people have naturally occurring antibodies that prevented them from contracting the spanish flu.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1918_flu_pandemic

Says here that the spanish flu was the H1N1 virus, maybe this is why the supposed pandemic that was supposed to happen a couple of years back never happened, because the overwhelming number of us are immune to it?

K-
 

raven

TB Fanatic
And like a year from now!

But this actually doesn't surprise me, my great great grandmother survived the Spanish Flu epidemic in 1918 (I think that's when it was) as did her future husband. Her future husbands wife and their six children all died from the flu. Research has now show that some people have naturally occurring antibodies that prevented them from contracting the spanish flu.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1918_flu_pandemic

Says here that the spanish flu was the H1N1 virus, maybe this is why the supposed pandemic that was supposed to happen a couple of years back never happened, because the overwhelming number of us are immune to it?

K-
Interesting. I am going to have to go back through my genealogy and check that 1918 year and see how many were lost
 

kittyknits

Veteran Member
Two or three years from now, those who have survived the ebola plague will have ebola-proof blood. A different disease will have to be used next time.
 

WalknTrot

Veteran Member
Problem with taking serum from folks in Africa is that there are so many other diseases being carried by the population - malaria, hepatitis, AIDS. All kind of wonnerful stuff. The donor would have to be tested and retested often. An expensive undertaking.

And then there's the fact that nobody knows how long anybody can keep enough anti-bodies to remain immune. And do anti-bodies from one strain give immunity for the others? Again, nobody knows.
 

Night Owl

Veteran Member
Fascinating reading....makes perfect sense.
That's why they took to doctor blood/plasma for the antibodies & I am sure they did the same with the nurse they shuffled off to Bethesda. Now what Pharmacutical Company got the serum to make the vacines......hmmmmm that would be interesting.
 
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