WEATHER Wet, wet, wet: last decade saw most rainfall in 300 years [but similar weather in the 1700's]

Melodi

Disaster Cat
I am posting this because even with the headline, the story is a great example of REAL weather research, Ireland and the UK do have some of the longest running official weather records (not even counting the farming annals from the 5th through around the 12th century) and this suggests that Ireland is in a very wet period, but there was a previous one in the 1700's.

Also note that the eruption of Mt. Latki in Iceland resulted in near-famine conditions with the Liffy (main river in Dublin) freezing over, also the effects of the East moving winds (what we got this Winter bringing all that snow) causing exceptionally warm Summers for a period in the 1700's!

Interesting and I like seeing good science on this topic, despite a few sentences obviously thrown in because they are pretty much required to say certain things and still get carried in the MSM; I love the comment about how this all fits with "projected" furture rainfall/weather in Ireland but doesn't say a word about what those projections are (talk about saying nothing while looking PC enough to publish lol).

I should point out that it was the job of pastors who lived in houses like ours (Church of Ireland/England) to take rain measurements and some doctors and other "gentlemen scientists" in both the UK and Ireland did as well - giving us a lot of very useful information if it is collected and used correctly (not for someone's agenda trying to prove a point). Melodi


Wet, wet, wet: last decade saw most rainfall in 300 years
Updated / Monday, 26 Mar 2018 09:19
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Going up: the winters of 2013/14 and 2015/16 were the two wettest winters in the 305 year series
By Conor Murphy
Department of Geography

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Report: a 300 year history of Irish rainfall shows that recent winters were the wettest on record

The Irish have long been fascinated by the weather – hardly surprising given the variability that we experience on a day to day, year to year basis. That captivation has left us with a rich legacy of weather observing on the island. We have recently stitched together that history to produce one of the longest continuous rainfall series anywhere in the world. The record extends from 1711 to 2016, capturing 305 years of ups and downs. The new dataset yields some interesting insights; not least that the most recent decade was the wettest of them all.

The fact that we have such a long rainfall record for Ireland is thanks to the work of meteorologists at the UK Met Office in the 1970s. They created an inventory of early observations and weather diaries and then constructed an average rainfall series representing Ireland. Their study was never published, so it was a stroke of good fortune that the work was discovered during renovations at Met Éireann. We were able to merge the Met Office record with another, quality assured dataset which we recently compiled for Ireland for the period 1850 to present. When combined, these two series give us an unprecedented picture of rainfall variations for every month since 1711 to 2016.

The record draws on very early rainfall observations made by Thomas Neve from Derry in 1711 using a rainfall gauge that would hardly be recognised by today’s standards. The gauge was set up on the roof of his house and drained rainfall into the attic, where the water was collected in a beaker. Although such rudimentary observations would have been prone to significant wind loss and other errors, they still give us an insight to the number of wet days.


"When we step back to look at the entire record, there is a distinct shift towards wetter winters and drier summers over time"

The record is also complemented by the weather diary of Dr John Rutty, a physician who compiled monthly and seasonal weather summaries for Dublin from 1716 to 1765. Rather than having a direct interest in weather, Rutty was interested in how morbidity and mortality in Dublin varied with weather conditions. From the late 1700s and early 1800s, other sites began routine recording of rainfall, some of which are still in use today, including Phoenix Park, Armagh, Cork, Galway, and Sligo.

The reliability of early data can be affected by variations in the design and height of rain gauges, repositioning of equipment and changing observer practices. As a result, we devoted considerable effort to checking the quality of each record by comparing with other long rainfall records (where possible), as well as with independent long-term observations and reconstructions of rainfall, temperature and catalogues of weather patterns from across the British-Irish Isles. We found remarkable agreement amongst these different sources with our long rainfall record. This is testament to the quality of record-keeping by the early observers.

As mentioned before, the most recent decade is the wettest in our record. Moreover, the winter of 2015/16 saw extensive flooding across Ireland and the winter of 2013/14 was the stormiest winter on record in the region. These seasons were also the first and second wettest winters in the 305 year series, respectively. However, the wettest winter decade occurred in the 1730s, a period of remarkably persistent westerly winds that carried moisture from the Atlantic.

The 305-year series also places the recent run of wet summers into context, highlighting that they were not that unusual after all

There have been some very dry spells too. For example, the period 1740 to 1790 was exceptionally dry (although snowfall contributions may have been underestimated for that time). Persistent easterly winds (not unlike the recent "Beast from the East") deflected the westward flow of warm, moist air masses away from Western Europe. Other research has also highlighted the exceptional cold and dryness of the early 1740s for the British-Irish Isles, with serious impacts on Irish society during the "The Forgotten Famine". Indeed, the 1740s were the driest decade in our annual series.

The 10 successive winters with the lowest rainfall total occurred between 1777 and 1786. This period also included the remarkable winter of 1783/84 which followed the eruption of the Laki volcano in Iceland. Newspaper reports at the time tell of exceptional cold, a frozen Liffey and near famine conditions amongst the population in Dublin and rural Ireland.


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The 305-year series also places the recent run of wet summers into context, highlighting that they were not that unusual after all. The latter half of the 1700s, for example, was much more of a washout and that period may have been one of wettest in the last millennium.

Beyond curiosity about extreme weather events, our new 305 year island of Ireland rainfall series has important practical uses. When we step back to look at the entire record, there is a distinct shift towards wetter winters and drier summers over time. These long-term changes are consistent with climate model projections of future changes in rainfall over Ireland.

The range of variability and the extreme events contained in our record also offer valuable information for stress testing critical infrastructure such as flood defences and water supply systems. This helps ensure that vital water services are resilient to future wet and dry periods in Ireland. We hope that our rainfall series will be as valuable to the work of future scientists as the legacy of past weather observers has been to ours.

The views expressed here are those of the author and do not represent or reflect the views of RTÉ

https://www.rte.ie/eile/brainstorm/...t-last-decade-saw-most-rainfall-in-300-years/
 

von Koehler

Has No Life - Lives on TB
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http://www.joe.co.uk/news/beast-fro...orms-set-to-unleash-white-easter-on-uk-169286

BEAST FROM THE EAST 3.0: Furious -8C storms set to unleash 'White Easter' on UK

JAMES DAWSON

This is the news nobody wanted to hear.

It looks as though everyone's bank holidays are going to be ruined by the final instalment in the Beast from the East trilogy.

The Met Office has announced the country is going to be faced with temperatures as low -8C, persistent rain and snow.

Met Office forecaster Alex Deakin told the Daily Star: "If you thought spring was imminent, you're in for a bit of a shock.

"Are we going to see the return of the snowfalls? With it turning so cold then yes, we are likely to see at least some and it could be on the heavy side."

Who likes trilogies? When you get a sudden stratospheric warming event like we saw in Jan, it often means you can get more than one/two/three bouts of colder weather. #BeastFromTheEast to be continued....?

Snowfall will be be seen in northern England and Scotland, with temperatures falling from Thursday onwards and ruining everybody's Easter.

Aidan McGivern, Met Office forecaster, added: "Following two exceptionally cold episodes of weather in March you might be hoping spring has finally arrived.

"Over the next 10 days it will occasionally feel spring like with sunny spells and heavy downpours and with the increasingly strong March sunshine well will also have some mild days.

"But there are now fairly strong signals that temp will take a downturn at the end of next week it's going to start to feel much colder again heading into the Easter weekend.

"We could even see in some places some Easter snowfall."
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
Yep, I have stew beef thawing to make a big pot of stew tomorrow for husband and me; I'll probably do something similar for vegetarian housemate; we had ONE day of Spring weather (yesterday) which fooled the flowers into blooming a bit and the cats (all fixed) to start acting bouncy or romantic (the old toms don't believe they can't make kittens anymore).

I really prefer this weather pattern in Summer (see article) when it makes it dry and warm; sometimes too warm for a 200 year old house built to retain heat but there is always sitting outside (like we did in 2005) and toasting "global warming" with Sangria...not that it really is getting warmer; if anything this article hints at a return to the Little Ice Age conditions of the 1700's.
 

von Koehler

Has No Life - Lives on TB
The time period Melodi is referencing was during the Maunder Minimum, which is likely to be repeated [green lines in below chart] over the next 80 or so years ahead.

von Koehler
 

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nomifyle

TB Fanatic
Thanks for the thread, a relief from some of the other hate filled thread dominating the forum lately.

Judy
 

China Connection

TB Fanatic
Last week saw a huge amount of rain where I now live.

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Melodi

Disaster Cat
The Beast From the East so far has shorter foot pads than the last two visits; we might still get snow but probably cold winds and rain; cold enough for stew, but "warm" enough I've gotten two pure wool or wool/cashmere coats for me and one for husband on the sale racks at the charity (Thrift) shops.

They are all warm enough for Moscow, the full length one (on me, would be calf length on most people) fits perfectly, but makes me look like a Russian Babushka or high ranking member of the Politburo; I'm thinking of looking for a fur hat and muff to go with it if I can find those cheap.

We are getting enough severely cold weather these last few years (off and on, our previous Winter was milder but wet too) that I figure spending 50 dollars on about 500 dollars plus (if bought new) seriously heavy coats was a good idea.

I've bought plastic boxes to put them away with so the moths don't get them; combined with the hand-knit sweaters and if required furs; they should get thourh the first years of even a true little Ice Age.

A really serious Ice Age might see Ireland's population migrating back towards Spain (a lot of folks came here after the last one ended the DNA has now shown the folklore to be correct, there were already a few hunters and gatherers who toughed it out (in the UK too) but they lived on the edges in the South and West for the most part and I'd rather not revert to that lifestyle.

Even if SOME of the planet does get warmer, Northern Europe does not seem to be following that pattern but in fact is looking more and more like the weather of the early 14th century; when things were so horrific that people tied to the land to survive thought that God had totally abandoned the earth to Satan and that was BEFORE the Black Death hit a few years later.

A lot of medical historians think one reason the Black Death was so nearly a wipeout in Europe was that so many people had starved as children and so were weaker in Middle Age (late 1340's to early 1350's meant the average 40-year-old had lived through several of the worst weather-related famines in hundreds of years).

That is even more likely now that science knows it was not really a new disease, but one that had made periodic visits to Europe and Eurasia for at least a thousand years plus before the 14th century.
 

von Koehler

Has No Life - Lives on TB
The Beast From the East so far has shorter foot pads than the last two visits; we might still get snow but probably cold winds and rain; cold enough for stew, but "warm" enough I've gotten two pure wool or wool/cashmere coats for me and one for husband on the sale racks at the charity (Thrift) shops.

They are all warm enough for Moscow, the full length one (on me, would be calf length on most people) fits perfectly, but makes me look like a Russian Babushka or high ranking member of the Politburo; I'm thinking of looking for a fur hat and muff to go with it if I can find those cheap.

We are getting enough severely cold weather these last few years (off and on, our previous Winter was milder but wet too) that I figure spending 50 dollars on about 500 dollars plus (if bought new) seriously heavy coats was a good idea.

I've bought plastic boxes to put them away with so the moths don't get them; combined with the hand-knit sweaters and if required furs; they should get thourh the first years of even a true little Ice Age.

A really serious Ice Age might see Ireland's population migrating back towards Spain (a lot of folks came here after the last one ended the DNA has now shown the folklore to be correct, there were already a few hunters and gatherers who toughed it out (in the UK too) but they lived on the edges in the South and West for the most part and I'd rather not revert to that lifestyle.

Even if SOME of the planet does get warmer, Northern Europe does not seem to be following that pattern but in fact is looking more and more like the weather of the early 14th century; when things were so horrific that people tied to the land to survive thought that God had totally abandoned the earth to Satan and that was BEFORE the Black Death hit a few years later.

A lot of medical historians think one reason the Black Death was so nearly a wipeout in Europe was that so many people had starved as children and so were weaker in Middle Age (late 1340's to early 1350's meant the average 40-year-old had lived through several of the worst weather-related famines in hundreds of years).

That is even more likely now that science knows it was not really a new disease, but one that had made periodic visits to Europe and Eurasia for at least a thousand years plus before the 14th century.

Interesting about the emigration from Ireland to Spain. I met once with a young woman from the northern edge of Spain, and she was completely Celtic in appearance; even down to eye and hair color.

Disease outbreaks tend to flare up during solar minimums for just the reason you gave; failing crops lead to starvation or malnourished people. Over a third of Europa perished in 784 A.D. and again during the Little Ice Age.

By the time the next Cold Front reaches Ireland it might just be a rain event.

von Koehler
 

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
This week features highs in the 50s all week. Resurrection Sunday hits, and boom! High is 35. It quickly rebounds, but that's not exactly normal.
 

Disciple

Veteran Member
Im 64 years old. I retired on January the 1st. about 3 months ago. Since then I have never seen anything like the weather here in Central Ky. We have had uncomfortable winds the entire time except MAYBE 3 days. And the rain has just been relentless. I'm pretty sure we have not had in this time period more than 10 or 12 dry days.

Our forecast is showing rain for nine of the next ten days. I cant believe it.
 

von Koehler

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Im 64 years old. I retired on January the 1st. about 3 months ago. Since then I have never seen anything like the weather here in Central Ky. We have had uncomfortable winds the entire time except MAYBE 3 days. And the rain has just been relentless. I'm pretty sure we have not had in this time period more than 10 or 12 dry days.

Our forecast is showing rain for nine of the next ten days. I cant believe it.

If the past is any guide, this is only the beginning.

von Koehler
 

Martinhouse

Deceased
I agree that a lot of the disease in past solar minimums was from poor nutrition, but I haven't seen anyone here mention weaker immune systems from the lack of Vitamin D because of far fewer sunny days.

We are stocking up on Cod Liver Oil and Vitamin D3.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
I agree that a lot of the disease in past solar minimums was from poor nutrition, but I haven't seen anyone here mention weaker immune systems from the lack of Vitamin D because of far fewer sunny days.

We are stocking up on Cod Liver Oil and Vitamin D3.

That was also a likely factor, though not as much as for modern people; because there was still some sun the Summers and the majority of people, except for anchorites, and a few others were outside most of the daylight hours either in the fields, hunting, training for war or whatever was appropriate for their social status.

Even most monks and nuns did some outside work (some did it all the time) a few would have had inside jobs in scriptoriums and other places but most still took turns in the gardens, feeding the chickens and other outdoor activities.

Now there has been a problem with Vitamin D deficiency in Ireland and more-so in the UK with Muslim women who cover fully; eating the same sorts of foods they would at home in the Middle East; but at least the children are usually OK because little girls are not expected to cover in most traditions until age 12.

Some of the Australian (white) immigrants to Ireland also suffer from this because they are so used to covering every inch of their bodies with clothing to block the extreme sun (skin cancer risk) that while they are not wearing black robes, from a medical standpoint they might as well be.

When we had kids visiting from Australia one Summer we had to talk with the parents about not having them wear "baseball caps" with both forward and backwards flaps, long-sleeved shirts and high necked undershirts - because what little sun there was didn't need "protecting" from unless they were out for a very long time and then they could just put the hats back on.

I have extremely pale skin, and I do need some sunscreen during some of the Summer's here but it isn't like California where I need it nearly every day (thank goodness, I prefer not using that many chemicals all the time).
 

von Koehler

Has No Life - Lives on TB
http://www.sciencealert.com/humans-...go-ancient-relics-reveal-star-carr-mesolithic

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Humans Survived Intense Climate Change 11,000 Years Ago, According to Ancient Relics
And we didn't even flinch.

PETER DOCKRILL 27 MAR 2018
The first humans to reclaim Britain at the end of the last Ice Age encountered volatile and abrupt climate change as the great winter faded – but in the face of extreme instability, they showed an amazing resilience, new research reveals.

New investigations of the mysterious prehistoric people who once inhabited the Mesolithic site of Star Carr in England's north show humans lived through dramatic environmental shifts 11,000 years ago – but with such unflinching determination, there's almost no evidence climate change disrupted them.

"It has been argued that abrupt climatic events may have caused a crash in Mesolithic populations in Northern Britain," says quaternary scientist Simon Blockley from Royal Holloway, University of London.

"But our study reveals, that at least in the case of the pioneering colonisers at Star Carr, early communities were able to cope with extreme and persistent climate events."

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Antler headdress (University of York)

In terms of ancient archaeological sources in the UK, Star Carr is almost without equal. First discovered in the 1940s, the site is home to the remains of Britain's earliest house and some of the oldest carpentry ever discovered in Europe.

Houses and carpentry are one thing, but not every artefact that survives these ancient hunter-gatherers would be equally familiar to their ancestors today.

In addition to timber structures, animal bones, and flint blades that Blockley and fellow researchers unearthed from Star Carr's ancient mud, the team found elaborate red deer antler headdresses, suspected to have been worn by healers performing arcane rituals, or by hunters giving chase to fleeing stags.

"The antler headdresses are most intriguing," one of the team, Ian Candy, explained to CNN.

"We can't ever be sure what they were used for, but a lot of work has gone into making them and from ethnographic analogy, one possibility is that they were used by shamans as part of their costumes."

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Flint tool (University of York)

Along with other surviving relics excavated from a former lake basin in the Vale of Pickering in North Yorkshire, the headdresses date from an era in which these prehistoric colonisers ran into extreme climate change.

Specifically, two episodes of dramatic cooling approximately 9,300 and 11,100 years ago, which saw temperatures rapidly plummet by as much as 10 degrees Celsius in the space of a decade, lasting a brutal century at a time.

The researchers expected these abrupt climatic shifts to have a marked impact on the lives of the Star Carr population – and the first episode did result in a decrease in their activity – but they pulled through both, hardly changing their habits for the second bout of harsh winter.

"[They] must have been highly resilient to climate instability, capable of persevering and maintaining a stable society in spite of these environmental stresses," Candy said.

That capability was enabled by skills and knowledge in how to best use their stone tools and natural resources, hunting deer and fish, collecting plant materials, making warm clothes, and building what primitive structures they could to help them survive a drop in temperature that could otherwise have been far more dangerous.

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How Star Carr might have looked (Dominic Andrews)

It's an inspiring story of humanity's ability to adapt to potentially deadly climate change scenarios – and one that shifts our thinking on how prehistoric peoples weathered such extreme shifts, and in a way, how we might be able to do so, too.

But at the same time, the researchers advise against comparing this ancient accomplishment too closely with the intense environmental challenges we face today.

That's because these people were among the first to emerge from an Ice Age at the birth of the Holocene – adept at living on the harshest of frontiers, colonising land given up as the ice borders gave way.

In many ways, we are not like them. And that could make all the difference in the hotter world to come.

"The people of Star Carr were part of a tradition that had experienced dramatic climate shifts at the end of the last age, extreme climatic instability was part of their way of life," Candy told CNN.

"In contrast, our society has existed through many centuries or even millennia of stable climates, we have no experience of sudden large-scale change."

The findings are reported in Nature Ecology & Evolution.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
That excavation was one of the groups of people I was thinking of that "lived on the edge" and MAY have been in parts of the UK even during the last of the Ice Age; which would explain how they had the "historical" (Oral Tradition) of how to hunker down and survive if the world throws you a decade of return to brutally cold weather after a period of warmth and plenty.

The other interesting thing is: while my notes and reconstruction on the other computer- that headdress was found in a WOMEN's grave (there are several others found as well so probably either gender could wear them).

Today you almost always see men wearing the reproductions which is interesting, but it was a lady who was buried with one of the originals.

Snow is no longer in the forecast but hail, sleet, and thunderstorms are (with snow on the hills).

So far sunny and cloudy this morning, and about 36 degrees...it is going to be a very cold and wet Easter Weekend for a lot of folks trying to get to Mass.
 

von Koehler

Has No Life - Lives on TB
There have been reports of massive sized hailstones, so this maybe part of the climate change.

If this turns out to be a rain event instead of snow, the amount could be interesting.

von Koehler
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
Temperatures going down as the day goes on was crisp and sunny in town but pouring ice cold rain by the time we hit the feed store; we are now all socked in for the weekend.
 

von Koehler

Has No Life - Lives on TB
https://www.theguardian.com/environ...h-atlantic-beyond-worst-fears-scientists-warn

Drastic cooling in North Atlantic beyond worst fears, scientists warn
Climatologists say Labrador Sea could cool within a decade before end of this century, leading to unprecedented disruption, reports Climate News Network

Alex Kirby for Climate News Network, part of the Guardian Environment Network

Fri 24 Feb 2017

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Ice covering the ocean surface along lower Baffin Island, in the Hudson Strait and the Labrador Sea. Photograph: Kike Calvo/National Geographic Creative/Alamy Stock

For thousands of years, parts of northwest Europe have enjoyed a climate about 5C warmer than many other regions on the same latitude. But new scientific analysis suggests that that could change much sooner and much faster than thought possible.

Climatologists who have looked again at the possibility of major climate change in and around the Atlantic Ocean, a persistent puzzle to researchers, now say there is an almost 50% chance that a key area of the North Atlantic could cool suddenly and rapidly, within the space of a decade, before the end of this century.

OMG measurements of Greenland give us a glimpse of future sea rise

That is a much starker prospect than even the worst-case scientific scenario proposed so far, which does not see the Atlantic ocean current shutdown happening for several hundred years at least.

A scenario even more drastic (but fortunately fictional) was the subject of the 2004 US movie The Day After Tomorrow, which portrayed the disruption of the North Atlantic’s circulation leading to global cooling and a new Ice Age.

To evaluate the risk of extreme climate change, researchers from the Environnements et Paléoenvironnements Océaniques et Continentaux laboratory (CNRS/University of Bordeaux, France), and the University of Southampton developed an algorithm to analyse the 40 climate models considered by the Fifth Assessment Report.

The findings by the British and French team, published in the Nature Communications journal, in sharp contrast to the IPCC, put the probability of rapid North Atlantic cooling during this century at almost an even chance – nearly 50%.

Current climate models foresee a slowing of the meridional overturning circulation (MOC), sometimes known also as the thermohaline circulation, which is the phenomenon behind the more familiar Gulf Stream that carries warmth from Florida to European shores. If it did slow, that could lead to a dramatic, unprecedented disruption of the climate system.

In 2013, drawing on 40 climate change projections, the IPCC judged that this slowdown would occur gradually, over a long period. Its findings suggested that fast cooling of the North Atlantic during this century was unlikely.

But oceanographers from EU emBRACE had also re-examined the 40 projections by focusing on a critical spot in the northwest of the North Atlantic: the Labrador Sea.

The Labrador Sea is host to a convection system ultimately feeding into the ocean-wide MOC. The temperatures of its surface waters plummet in the winter, increasing their density and causing them to sink. This displaces deep waters, which bring their heat with them as they rise to the surface, preventing the formation of ice caps.

The algorithm developed by the Anglo-French researchers was able to detect quick sea surface temperature variations. With it they found that seven of the 40 climate models they were studying predicted a total shutdown of convection, leading to abrupt cooling of the Labrador Sea by 2C to 3C over less than 10 years. This in turn would drastically lower North Atlantic coastal temperatures.

But because only a handful of the models supported this projection, the researchers focused on the critical parameter triggering winter convection: ocean stratification. Five of the models that included stratification predicted a rapid drop in North Atlantic temperatures.

The researchers say these projections can one day be tested against real data from the international OSnap project, whose teams will be anchoring scientific instruments within the sub-polar gyre (a gyre is any large system of circulating ocean currents).

If the predictions are borne out and the North Atlantic waters do cool rapidly over the coming years, the team says, with considerable understatement, climate change adaptation policies for regions bordering the North Atlantic will have to take account of this phenomenon.
 

TxGal

Day by day
More and more it does appear that the pieces are coming together for the next Minimum. And it also appears that we're on the edge and don't have much time as a nation to prepare. They'll never be able to cope with the massively increased heating needs of the northern and north eastern states, and how they're going to ensure food production with the weather changes that are coming. They simply won't be able to.

Time to lay in a good supply of grains, and gosh, just about all long-term food storage. And greatly increase gardens and fruit trees - and find ways to work around the weather changes we will experience that affect home food production.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
And it was a cheerful 31 degrees this morning when I got up, it is about 33 now and may reach 40 plus some time this afternoon!

Rain and flood warnings are out along with severe Eastern Winds blowing in; again it was flooding and wind that caused a lot of the problems in the Little Ice Age, it wasn't just cold and snow.

I've got my silk underwear on and my electric blanket; I think a nice Sunday indoors is on the cards for Ireland (with some folks braving out to go to mass and feed their animals but other Spring tasks are still being delayed this Eastern morning).

Perhaps the weather looked at the Date (April 1st)?....
 

TxGal

Day by day
In keeping with the theme of wet weather, an article on an area in Italy that will be unable to plant some spring vegetables due to extended bad weather:

http://www.freshplaza.com/article/1...affects-carrot-and-onion-production-in-Fucino

Italy: Bad weather affects carrot and onion production in Fucino

Due to the heavy rain of the past few days, Fucino producers haven't been able to sow anything, therefore carrot and onion quantities will be very low in June. This of course will have repercussion on the numerous businesses focusing on these crops.

"The heavy rain is causing delays in the Fucino area. The soil is soaked, so you can't even set foot in the fields. We usually sow spring and summer carrots this time of year, but everything's been compromised. Onions destined to the domestic market won't probably even be sown," explained Domenico Fidanza, Councillor for Agriculture at the Celano municipality.

Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like the situation is going to improve, as another weather front will hit Abruzzo over the next few days, bringing more rain.

"It probably won't be possible to access the fields for another 20 days, provided it stops raining. Harvesting in June will not be possible, affecting hundreds of local businesses. In addition, we must stress that Fucino is not equipped with reservoirs to collect all this water, so it will go to waste and we won't be able to use it in case of summer drought."
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
Yep, my organic veggie box was pretty grim this week; we buy from a local farmer and he grows what they can but imports the rest from certified organic growers in Europe; especially Southern Europe.

It was also impossible for a lot of Irish growers and gardeners to get their traditional "St. Paddy's Day" potatoes in, a combination of snow and flooding has played havoc with it in some areas. It is a mixed back with some areas doing fine, but I shudder to think what life would be like if we really had to depend on nothing but local produce for our survival.

Our chickens continue to ignore the weather and lay some eggs; I need to get a few more hens sometime real soon here.

Overall, the situation is OK in the modern world but we would all be in dangers of starvation if we had to only eat what was here and from locations nearby.
 
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