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Cardinal

Snark: a higher form of communication
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The below is the Op-Ed that was accepted to USAToday on June 24. They deleted key phrases/paragraphs for their print paper and then they refused to print it at all online.
It is clear to me as a physician-lawyer that the disinformation about both Covid-19 and the Constitution has caused us to turn a medical issue into a legal crisis.
The scientific usefulness of a mask has been so aggressively overstated, and the foundational importance of the Constitution has been so aggressively understated, that we have normalized people screaming obscenities at each other while hiking.

The Covid virus was supposed to be contained in the kind of lab where people wear astronaut suits and go through triple sealed doors. It is a con of massive proportion to assert that now, having escaped those environs, a bandanna will magically do the trick.

After all, size matters
The pore size of cloth face coverings range from ~ 20-100 microns. The Covid virus is 200-1000x smaller than that, at 0.1 microns. Putting up a chain link fence will not keep out a mosquito. Even the most esteemed medical journals admit their purpose is to calm anxiety. “Expanded masking protocols’ greatest contribution may be to reduce the transmission of anxiety …”
Of course, by knowledge or common sense observation, most Americans already know that masking everyone is superstition. But unlike privately carrying a lucky charm, mandating facial coverings requires the consent of the governed.

Many cultures mandate clothing that appears totally irrational to outsiders. Never have those cultures pretended that there is a scientific basis for their clothing requirement. Their leaders rule, and their citizens accept, that their choice of clothing is due to religious or cultural preference.
Not wearing a mask is not mere “personal choice” like deciding between a head covering or a t-shirt. It is a flashpoint for being a free human being who has consented to be governed but has not consented to be ruled. We do not consent to a masked America, because that is a fundamental change in American society, culture, norms, and rights.

People who are apathetic toward their own liberty cannot eliminate Constitutional rights for those who are not. This is not the first (or last) time that people who believe in superstition are screaming the loudest. The Constitution exists precisely to protect all people during times of mass hysteria.
The mask has become the most visible symbol of #socialconditioning to Americans determined to preserve individual freedom. Thus far most Americans have continued to give their consent to be governed. But you are trying our patience.
 

naturallysweet

Has No Life - Lives on TB
That only makes sense if the virus was able to fly by itself, or if viral load at times of infection didn't matter. . It can't. It is carried around On those tiny drops of spit that we put into the air when we breath. The amount of those tiny drops that we get makes a giant difference in how sick we get.

the n95 mask reduces your chances of getting it. The cloth mask reduces your chances of spreading it to others..

I'm still symptomatic with this monster. Still short of breath..still coughing. Still dealing with other bizarre alien symptoms. I'd love it if the virus was a conspiracy. It's not. They truly want us dead.
 

Cardinal

Snark: a higher form of communication
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That only makes sense if the virus was able to fly by itself, or if viral load at times of infection didn't matter. . It can't. It is carried around On those tiny drops of spit that we put into the air when we breath. The amount of those tiny drops that we get makes a giant difference in how sick we get.

the n95 mask reduces your chances of getting it. The cloth mask reduces your chances of spreading it to others..

I'm still symptomatic with this monster. Still short of breath..still coughing. Still dealing with other bizarre alien symptoms. I'd love it if the virus was a conspiracy. It's not. They truly want us dead.
Did you read the original post?
Did you miss this?
The scientific usefulness of a mask has been so aggressively overstated,
The Covid virus was supposed to be contained in the kind of lab where people wear astronaut suits and go through triple sealed doors. It is a con of massive proportion to assert that now, having escaped those environs, a bandanna will magically do the trick.
Even the most esteemed medical journals admit their purpose is to calm anxiety.


I'm sorry you are sick, but you could have also fallen prey to the regular flu, or a zillion other viruses.Viruses that have been around forever. Viruses no one insisted we wear a mask for.
 

Troke

TB Fanatic
What has bugged me about this since day one are: The After Effects.

I keep reading that if you get this, bad things happen to you that are permanent. In the case of ventilators, it is damned near 100%.

And now there seems to bad news for people who were just hospitalized. This keeps up five years down the road people who just got a slight cough will find that their liver is not working.

The point of this rant is to avoid Macho, do everything you can to avoid it and avoid giving it to other people.
 

Seeker22

Veteran Member
So what about all the threats of fining non mask wearers a thousand bucks? Sounds more like .gov trying to fill the coffers than any genuine attempt at preventing spread of a disease. And who nowdays has a thou for them to take?
 

thorr

Contributing Member
Ok,
Going to ask this here, thought of starting a thread, but not my style. I’m asking for help, opinions, whatever.
Haven't wore a mask yet, I social distance just fine.
Today went to local mom and pop hardware store by my choice, wore a mask in for nuts and bolts, it was stupid, nobody following proper PPE procedures. It kinda shocked me when I saw the mask sign, I sat in the truck kinda thinking hell, I don’t want to go to Ace. Not going to do it again, said something at our shop, and one of the guys said he just went to Ace. F them.
I guess my question is, what if they all want mask. Look how easy it was, then mandatory gloves, Covid app, and hell, chips are kinda cool. And when does it end, and you know it doesn’t.
So what if I refuse to consent to this new normal?
So are mask really to be a line in the sandand if so, God save us all...
Now I’m a white boomer veteran “racist” that won’t wear a mask.... WTF?
I have almost no belief that this mask thing is saving lives, not in Walmart.
But to function in society and show I’m a team player, I’ve got to pull my T-shirt over my face, which I would never do.
Give me a break.
It feels really wrong, like I’m being played.
Long strange trip......
 

Double_A

TB Fanatic
How many "bad people" are simply wearing masks to hide that they are "bad people"?
Well now you make me feel bad, because I enjoy the anonymity of wearing the mask.

So now after 65 years I'm finally a bad guy?....

Forget it... I just realized all the hot chicks love bad boys.

:jstr:
 

Blacknarwhal

TB Fanatic
Well now you make me feel bad, because I enjoy the anonymity of wearing the mask.

So now after 65 years I'm finally a bad guy?....

Forget it... I just realized all the hot chicks love bad boys.

:jstr:
Well, that's why I put "bad" in quotes.

Because as far as they're concerned, we're sweet and obedient little lackeys because we're wearing a meaningless strip of cloth.

We're not hoarding guns. Or food. Or skills. Or getting our neighbors together. Nope. Not us. Because we're wearing MASKS. Like we're s'pos'ta.
 

thorr

Contributing Member
So if I wear the mask, I’m actually pulling one over on them. Because I gotta stay grey.
And then??
 

Double_A

TB Fanatic
Well, that's why I put "bad" in quotes.

Because as far as they're concerned, we're sweet and obedient little lackeys because we're wearing a meaningless strip of cloth.

We're not hoarding guns. Or food. Or skills. Or getting our neighbors together. Nope. Not us. Because we're wearing MASKS. Like we're s'pos'ta.
Well now I KNOW I'm a bad guy cause I say **** that shit.
 

thorr

Contributing Member
Is that the point of this? To trick them into seeing me as a poor little lackey. It’s friggin sad to go thru my local grocery store and see the cream of hard working, law abiding citizens, staying safe behind their mask, when we know that how it’s being done is a farce. I do not give consent to being part of this. Most of us hopefully have lines, this is starting to feel like the first one I’ve had to acknowledge in my 60 years. I’m not anybody’s lackey and I find myself a pretty mellow older dude. But might have more WTF than I knew....
Wish I was younger........
 

naegling62

Veteran Member
I don't like the idea of government dictating mask wearing. What I do like is the idea of everyone leaving everyone else alone. Don't care about the virus, don't wear it. Don't want to get the virus till they have figured out how to treat it, wear a mask.

It is that simple, but nobody wants simple or common sense right now.

It's like these Bolsheviks we're dealing with right now, they don't want things fixed from their perspective, they want to control, punish and persecute you. Anyway, the mask argument is political now instead of scientific and that serves us no purpose in this fight.
 

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
What if they “demand” it ...

Then they get to learn what NO means when someone other than mommy says it.
 

marsh

TB Fanatic
I had a bureaucratic requirement to smog my car. It also had a slow tire leak that I had to take care of before the smoging. Then the car didn't pass the smog the first time because the electronics had "gone to sleep" sitting in the driveway for so long.

The government forced me into repeated exposure that I did not want and had been carefully avoiding since February. So I wore an N95 mask and gloves. Oh, but we are not supposed to because they are only for "health care workers." Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
 
A little drift. Went into Taco Bell because line was so long at drive-in. Of the six-plus workers, one had no mask, another had it pulled down.
 
That only makes sense if the virus was able to fly by itself, or if viral load at times of infection didn't matter. . It can't. It is carried around On those tiny drops of spit that we put into the air when we breath. The amount of those tiny drops that we get makes a giant difference in how sick we get.

the n95 mask reduces your chances of getting it. The cloth mask reduces your chances of spreading it to others..

I'm still symptomatic with this monster. Still short of breath..still coughing. Still dealing with other bizarre alien symptoms. I'd love it if the virus was a conspiracy. It's not. They truly want us dead.
Were you ever treated with the hydroxychloroquine + zinc + azrithomycin (or doxycycline) + liposomal vitamin C cocktail as a treatment therapy?

Was COVID-19 actually determined to be your primary agitant, or is it only "presumed" to be at the core of your illness?


intothegoodnight
 
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What has bugged me about this since day one are: The After Effects.

I keep reading that if you get this, bad things happen to you that are permanent. In the case of ventilators, it is damned near 100%.

And now there seems to bad news for people who were just hospitalized. This keeps up five years down the road people who just got a slight cough will find that their liver is not working.

The point of this rant is to avoid Macho, do everything you can to avoid it and avoid giving it to other people.
If this is your personal recommendation, you should consider moving into a remote cave, away from all of the pervasive and manufactured mind-worm vectors that exist, EVERYWHERE.

Most of the rest of us have already had enough of this "fear the 'rona" hard-sell, and are more than ready to conduct our lives in a state of normal rational caution - avoid falling meteors, stepping in front of moving vehicles, aware of dark alleys, etc.

Have you PERSONALLY stockpiled hydroxychloroquine + zinc + azrithomycin (or doxycycline) + liposomal vitamin C as potential early treatments for you and yours?

If not, WHY not?

Recommended dosages for a prophylactic treatment protocol are widely published and available to those who wish to look.


intothegoodnight
 
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Is that the point of this? To trick them into seeing me as a poor little lackey. It’s friggin sad to go thru my local grocery store and see the cream of hard working, law abiding citizens, staying safe behind their mask, when we know that how it’s being done is a farce. I do not give consent to being part of this. Most of us hopefully have lines, this is starting to feel like the first one I’ve had to acknowledge in my 60 years. I’m not anybody’s lackey and I find myself a pretty mellow older dude. But might have more WTF than I knew....
Wish I was younger........
A personal acquaintance - Virginia sheriff - mentioned that IF they get a call from a retailer complaining about a "customer" who refuses to wear a mask while in a retail establishment (per Governor-issued EO), they would respond - but have NO arrest authority simply because a "customer" refuses to wear a mask - Virginia state law has NO codified law stating that citizens MUST wear a mask - even when dictated by the Governor via a state-issued EO - meaning, the sheriff has nothing that they can charge you for because you refuse to wear a mask - the only thing they might be able to arrest a non-masked citizen for could be trespassing or disturbing the peace - and stated that IF the non-masked citizen were to be stupid enough to STILL be at the retail establishment by the time his deputies arrived, then the resisting anti-mask citizen would be asked "nicely" to vacate the retail establishment, and not cause further concern. If the anti-masked citizen still refuses, THEN they might be arrested for trespassing, or disturbing the peace, or some such codified law violation - and would be taken to lockup, where they would be processed and released on their own cognizance - to later appear before a judge for said trespassing or disturbing the peace charge - and the judge will likely dismiss the case, if existing de facto non-mask-wearing prosecution patterns persist.


intothegoodnight
 
What if they “demand” it ...
You know?
Do you have a pre-existing medical condition that might prevent you from wearing a mask?

The Virginia governor's EO directing that "everyone" must wear a mask has several caveats contained in this EO - one has to do with folks who have a pre-existing medical condition, who cannot "medically" wear a mask.

Functionally speaking - from the "pre-existing medical condition" anti-mask citizen's perspective, once they enter a retail establishment without any mask, and are challenged by retail employees or management, must simply state that they have a "pre-existing" medical condition that prevents them from wearing a mask - retail employees or management are prevented by HIPAA medical privacy laws from delving further by asking for additional explanation - they all (should) know that this is the red-line that they are not supposed to cross.

I know that this is legitimate - watched non-mask wearing folks in line, ahead of me, be challenged, who then state that they have a pre-existing medical condition that prevents them from wearing a mask, and the retail employees simply cease in their insistence and let the person pass into the retail establishment, unmasked - three different times I have seen this tactic employed, and all three times the unmasked were allowed into the retail establishment.

Suggest that you go to your state's online website, and read the "must-mask" EOs issued by your state governor - and READ the caveats about pre-existing medical conditions - for your own edification/knowledge - simple enough to do.


intothegoodnight
 
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