CORONA Watching the No Vax - No Service unfold

Iowa Wiley

Iowa Wiley

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Satanta said:
I am actually curious how they are planning on dealing with people like Self.

Nephrologist asked if I got Vaxxed. Told him 'Not sat this point'. [[this was a few months ago-I go back in August]], told him FL and I had the Sweet&Sour Sniffles in Jan 2020. He nodded and Noted that and we went on with the rest of the conversation-Bloodwork stats, weather, general nothingness. Nothing else was said about Vaxxes. I did not go hardcore "HELL NO!" on the Vacc, just gave info he asked.

FL got her shot.

Wanted me to then changed her Tune about it-apparently it does no good for people with organ transplants, not hear it harms then [[I would imagine that is a possibility]] so-for people like self who can't/shouldn't get the Jab I wonder if they plan to Isolate us, Mask us or Eliminate us.

I can't wait to run into a Retard who scream "UNVACCINATED!!!!!" and I inform them it is not Recc'd by my Doc. See how they react.
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I, too, would like to know how folks like me and my DW will be handled. We both had the Chinese engineered virus in March. I had a rough case, lasting 14 days with a bout of pneumonia and a pulmonary embolism a couple weeks later. The DW had a milder case and was done in a couple days. Just had a dr. appointment today, and the doctor told us both there was no need to get the jab as we both had natural immunity, which in her words, was more effective for the WuFlu and all the variants. So we are going to wait until there is more data collected on all the different jabs and then make a decision. All that being said, will there be a check box on the vaccine passport for natural immunity or will that be where they send you up the ramp into the cattle car?
 
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et2

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Blacknarwhal said:
Between this and the recent kerfuffle over J&J's entrant, I'm half wondering if it wouldn't be a good idea to get that one just to fend off the likely issues involved. It's clear TPTB don't want anyone getting that one, so it makes me think it WOULD be a good idea to go that route. Plus it would shut down a lot of the other nonsense involved.
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Or … that is exactly what they want you to do. Either way they win.
 
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TerryK

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Melodi said:
Blacknarwhal - I got the Astra Zenica and Nightwolf got J and J partly for those very reasons - that and we both have a high-risk factor which means trying out a non mRNA vaccine seemed worth the risk of the known side effects.

But we also got them because we could see the way the wind was blowing and we thought this would at least stave off the day when we were forced to either take an mRNA vaccine or "else" (depending on what else might be).

And yes, we know the government was lying but Ireland being a small country does the outright lying thing a lot less than you often see from governments in the US. Usually, they are sneakier about it, and/or they use the excuse "The EU MADE the US do it, Mommy," rather than come right out and do a total about-face like this was on their own "dime."

They are, of course, blaming the health department, which is "forcing their hand" with their "unexpected demands," which screams to me that in reality this probably was an EU directive. Since I don't think the health board would have been quite this draconian totally unexpectedly (and it was unexpected) without someone(s) ordering it.

Also, I'm watching the way the things are going with the UK being called "absolutely crazy" among other things for opening things up while at the same time the Prime Minister of the Netherlands goes on TV with an "abject apology" over "opening up too soon," followed by The Macaroon talking vaccine mandates in France and Germany suddenly wanting to close back up again.

When this did seem like this was going to be smallpox 2.0 I was fine with going along with all this, almost two years on it obviously isn't, and there is also obviously something else going on here. I mean why in the world would they otherwise be pushing just one type of vaccine, the US has gone so far as to ban those of us with Astra Zenica (a perfectly valid vaccine but not an mRNA) from entering the US unless this was about something other than public health?
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Melodi, you need to read up on Astra Zenica and J&J.
They are actually DNA vaccines that have a much better chance of reacting with your own DNA than any mRNA vaccine.
They use a adenovirus whose DNA has been genetically modified to produce the same mRNA molecule as the 2 mRNA vaccines. The genetically modified DNA from you vaccine, entered into your cell and then into your cell nucleus where your own DNA is located. Once there it's modified DNA produced mRNA molecules, which then exited your cell nucleus and went into the cell's cytoplasm where it produced Covid spike proteins in the exact same way the mRNA vaccines do.

Only the mRNA vaccines never go into your cells nucleus, while the DNA vaccines do.
Your vaccine just uses an extra step to produce the same mRNA molecule that Pfizer and Moderna use.
Don't believe me? Check online or ask NightWolf

Both your's and NightWolf's vaccines have a thousand times greater chance of affecting your own DNA than mRNA vaccines do. And they both end up producing the same mRNA that Pfizer and Moderna use. That's how the spike proteins are made.

IIRC the only conventional type covid vaccine out right now is CoronaVac made by SinoVac in China.
It uses killed or deactivated Covid 19 virus with an adjutant to amplify it's effectiveness.
It works the same way polio or rabies vaccine works.
I sure wish it was available here. It would eliminate most of the doubt and fear of the mRNA vaccines, and probably most of the reported side effects.
I don't know if it's even available yet in the west.
 
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raven

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Probably should do one of those "been vaxed?" polls.
these discussions about No vax-No Service may be moot at this point
 
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raven

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packyderms_wife said:
Someone did one of those polls a week or so ago here already.
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April 7 - 3 months ago

CORONA - POLL: Are you getting the vaccine? (Or have you gotten it?)

Millions or billions of viruses around for millions or billions of years and we're not extinct. What viral load makes us sick? Also, since they can't see viruses without an electron microscope which was invented ( I believe) in 1930 we don't have 100 years empirical data. I believe that the...
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Old Gray Mare

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Hawaii - Update

Sounds like the population is saying FU to (D) Governor Ige's mandates by avoiding restaurants demanding medical information from customers. Cooking at home is not that hard and saves money. Other options are take out, ABC stores catering to tourists and food trucks. Restaurants are hurting, tourists coming from states without mandates are pissed and they have lots of company.

Doesn't look like Ige is going to relinquish control without a fight.

Fair use.
Restaurant pulls-back from full capacity after customer complaints
Jul 13, 2021
KHON2 News
Restaurants have been struggling to stay afloat, wanting to fully reopen for more than a year, but many restaurant owners said asking for private medical information is more trouble than its worth.
Link to source:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OpUgIqNEvY

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bassaholic

bassaholic

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Just saw this on Twitter. Confirmed in Google but not posting news links as I always mess that up.

Greece just banned entry to indoor restaurants, bars, theaters, and cafes for all unvaccinated people. Effective immediately. In addition, healthcare workers in both private and state-run medical facilities must be vaccinated or face suspension.
 
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