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Looks like it starts at noon.
Another Far-Right Rally Will Happen at the Capitol on September 18: Here's What You Need to Know
Another Far-Right Rally Will Happen at the Capitol on September 18: Here’s What You Need to Know
Written by Andrew Beaujon | Published on September 15, 2021
Activists plan to hold a “#JusticeforJ6″ rally on Saturday to support people accused of taking part in the riot at the Capitol this past January. The prospect has raised tensions in a city still reeling from the January assault on the Capitol. Here’s what you need to know about it:
Who’s organizing it?
A group called Look Ahead America, which a former Trump campaign official named Matt Braynard heads. His group previously organized two smaller events in DC in July: one in front of the Justice Department and another at the DC Jail. That’s where some people accused of taking part in the January 6 invasion of the Capitol are being held.
What do they want?
Braynard and his group consider people facing charges from the riot to be “political prisoners” and, like many on the right, views Ashli Babbitt, who got shot while trying to climb through an opening in a door in the Capitol, to be a martyr. Braynard sent a letter to the US Department of Justice earlier this year asking it to drop all charges against “non-violent” protesters, calling their prosecution “politically motivated” and claiming that the majority of people who invaded the Capitol “may have been naive, but were not acting maliciously.”
Where will it take place?
Astonishingly…the Capitol! Union Square, just off Third Street, Northwest, in front of the Capitol Reflecting Pool.
What time?
Noon.
They actually got a permit for this?
Yep. The US Capitol Police won’t release the permit or answer any questions about it, but it has said it’s planning for the rally, which is scheduled to take place in Union Square, in front of the Capitol’s reflecting pool. The Washington Postreported that Braynard estimated 700 people will attend the rally. Reached by phone, Braynard said he has “no way of knowing” how many people will attend. “The left wants to intimidate us by putting up fencing,” he says. On the right, “dilettante pretenders” are trying to push attendance down, he says, referring to the common sentiment expressed in right-wing chats and forums that the rally is some sort of sting by the feds.
Who will speak?
The two main speakers are Joe Kent, who’s challenging GOP Representative Jaime Herrera Beutler in Washington state, and Mike Collins, a Republican running for Congress in Georgia. Braynard will host alongside Cara Castronuova, a pro-Trump boxer who appeared on season 11 of The Biggest Loser and founded a group called Citizens Against Political Persecution. Family members of people held on January 6 charges will likely speak, Braynard says.
Members of Congress including Matt Gaetz, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Paul Gosar, and Louie Gohmert attended Look Ahead America’s DC events in July. Greene and North Carolina Representative Madison Cawthorn have said they don’t plan to attend, and neither do Gohmert and Colorado Representative Lauren Boebert; none of the other members’ offices have yet responded to queries from Washingtonian about whether they plan to attend or speak. What about Trumpworld? The Daily Beast reported late last month the former President’s circle has been silent about the event so far. Braynard says “we’ve had some mighty allies” but wouldn’t say whether he’s been in touch with anyone in Trump’s ambit: “We will never disclose our conversations we’ve had.”
How will this be different from the pro-Trump rallies held in DC after Trump lost the election?
Braynard intends for this event to focus solely on the January 6 arrestees. In a video, he asks attendees not to bring clothing, signs, or flags that proclaim anything other than concern for people arrested over their alleged actions that day. That means nothing about specific candidates or the outcome of the 2020 election, he says, asking for “pure patriotism” instead.
Will groups like the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers be in attendance?
Signs mostly point to no, though Capitol Police intelligence reportedly indicates that the Proud Boys and the neo-Nazi group White Lives Matter are promoting the event, and New York City-based Proud Boy Randy Ireland has called for members of his group to attend, saying in Portland that Babbitt’s mother plans to attend and that she “wants to feel safe.” In public posts, however, the Proud Boys organization has discouraged members from attending, calling the event a “guaranteed disaster.”
Are there other rallies planned elsewhere?
Look Ahead America plans events in North Carolina and Washington state on the same day and more than a dozen others in coming weeks.
What steps are police taking to protect the Capitol and beyond?
The US Capitol Police confirmed earlier reports on Monday and said it has authorized the reinstallation of fencing that went up around the Capitol and has issued an emergency declaration that will allow it to deputize officers from other police forces. The DC police will be fully activated on Friday and Saturday and promise an “increased presence around the city where demonstrations will be taking place.” The Capitol Police tell Washingtonian the fencing footprint will occupy the same area it did this past spring. Metro plans normal service, a spokesperson tells Washingtonian, and says the Metro Transit Police Department “will have an increased presence in the system to ensure public safety, as is routine for large-scale events in the region.”
City officials are concerned that some attendees may bring guns, which would be illegal in the District, the Washington Post reports. Officials have offered signs to businesses nearby that say guns aren’t allowed inside.
Braynard has advised attendees to be “respectful and kind” to police and advises attendees to travel in groups until they leave DC or get to their hotels. “Numbers will keep you safe,” he said in a video.
Should you go down?
Goodness gracious, no. Even if this event goes well, the combination of riled-up Trump fans and Washingtonians who’ve put up with unwelcome visitors since “Pizzagate” is not a happy one. Pro-Trump rallies this past November and December were notable for organized violence by members of the Proud Boys, but there were plenty of incidents like a normie-looking Trump fan who kicked a kid on a bike. Roll Call reported last week that police intelligence had picked up some chatter about potential counterprotests, which Washingtonian has so far been unable to confirm, though the group Shut Down DC has encouraged people to call hotels and urge them not to host anyone coming for the rally, and there’s talk of a counterprogramming type of gathering at Freedom Plaza, about a mile and a half south of Union Square. The National Park Service has not received any permit applications for a counterprotest at Freedom Plaza or any other location, spokesperson Mike Litterst tells Washingtonian.
Our advice remains not to go: Stay home, go to the H Street Festival, or check out the new painting that will wrap the Hirshhorn. You won’t change anyone’s mind at this thing, and, unlike the people attending, you have the glorious option of moving on with your life.
Another Far-Right Rally Will Happen at the Capitol on September 18: Here's What You Need to Know
Another Far-Right Rally Will Happen at the Capitol on September 18: Here’s What You Need to Know
Written by Andrew Beaujon | Published on September 15, 2021
Activists plan to hold a “#JusticeforJ6″ rally on Saturday to support people accused of taking part in the riot at the Capitol this past January. The prospect has raised tensions in a city still reeling from the January assault on the Capitol. Here’s what you need to know about it:
Who’s organizing it?
A group called Look Ahead America, which a former Trump campaign official named Matt Braynard heads. His group previously organized two smaller events in DC in July: one in front of the Justice Department and another at the DC Jail. That’s where some people accused of taking part in the January 6 invasion of the Capitol are being held.
What do they want?
Braynard and his group consider people facing charges from the riot to be “political prisoners” and, like many on the right, views Ashli Babbitt, who got shot while trying to climb through an opening in a door in the Capitol, to be a martyr. Braynard sent a letter to the US Department of Justice earlier this year asking it to drop all charges against “non-violent” protesters, calling their prosecution “politically motivated” and claiming that the majority of people who invaded the Capitol “may have been naive, but were not acting maliciously.”
Where will it take place?
Astonishingly…the Capitol! Union Square, just off Third Street, Northwest, in front of the Capitol Reflecting Pool.
What time?
Noon.
They actually got a permit for this?
Yep. The US Capitol Police won’t release the permit or answer any questions about it, but it has said it’s planning for the rally, which is scheduled to take place in Union Square, in front of the Capitol’s reflecting pool. The Washington Postreported that Braynard estimated 700 people will attend the rally. Reached by phone, Braynard said he has “no way of knowing” how many people will attend. “The left wants to intimidate us by putting up fencing,” he says. On the right, “dilettante pretenders” are trying to push attendance down, he says, referring to the common sentiment expressed in right-wing chats and forums that the rally is some sort of sting by the feds.
Who will speak?
The two main speakers are Joe Kent, who’s challenging GOP Representative Jaime Herrera Beutler in Washington state, and Mike Collins, a Republican running for Congress in Georgia. Braynard will host alongside Cara Castronuova, a pro-Trump boxer who appeared on season 11 of The Biggest Loser and founded a group called Citizens Against Political Persecution. Family members of people held on January 6 charges will likely speak, Braynard says.
Members of Congress including Matt Gaetz, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Paul Gosar, and Louie Gohmert attended Look Ahead America’s DC events in July. Greene and North Carolina Representative Madison Cawthorn have said they don’t plan to attend, and neither do Gohmert and Colorado Representative Lauren Boebert; none of the other members’ offices have yet responded to queries from Washingtonian about whether they plan to attend or speak. What about Trumpworld? The Daily Beast reported late last month the former President’s circle has been silent about the event so far. Braynard says “we’ve had some mighty allies” but wouldn’t say whether he’s been in touch with anyone in Trump’s ambit: “We will never disclose our conversations we’ve had.”
How will this be different from the pro-Trump rallies held in DC after Trump lost the election?
Braynard intends for this event to focus solely on the January 6 arrestees. In a video, he asks attendees not to bring clothing, signs, or flags that proclaim anything other than concern for people arrested over their alleged actions that day. That means nothing about specific candidates or the outcome of the 2020 election, he says, asking for “pure patriotism” instead.
Will groups like the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers be in attendance?
Signs mostly point to no, though Capitol Police intelligence reportedly indicates that the Proud Boys and the neo-Nazi group White Lives Matter are promoting the event, and New York City-based Proud Boy Randy Ireland has called for members of his group to attend, saying in Portland that Babbitt’s mother plans to attend and that she “wants to feel safe.” In public posts, however, the Proud Boys organization has discouraged members from attending, calling the event a “guaranteed disaster.”
Are there other rallies planned elsewhere?
Look Ahead America plans events in North Carolina and Washington state on the same day and more than a dozen others in coming weeks.
What steps are police taking to protect the Capitol and beyond?
The US Capitol Police confirmed earlier reports on Monday and said it has authorized the reinstallation of fencing that went up around the Capitol and has issued an emergency declaration that will allow it to deputize officers from other police forces. The DC police will be fully activated on Friday and Saturday and promise an “increased presence around the city where demonstrations will be taking place.” The Capitol Police tell Washingtonian the fencing footprint will occupy the same area it did this past spring. Metro plans normal service, a spokesperson tells Washingtonian, and says the Metro Transit Police Department “will have an increased presence in the system to ensure public safety, as is routine for large-scale events in the region.”
City officials are concerned that some attendees may bring guns, which would be illegal in the District, the Washington Post reports. Officials have offered signs to businesses nearby that say guns aren’t allowed inside.
Braynard has advised attendees to be “respectful and kind” to police and advises attendees to travel in groups until they leave DC or get to their hotels. “Numbers will keep you safe,” he said in a video.
Should you go down?
Goodness gracious, no. Even if this event goes well, the combination of riled-up Trump fans and Washingtonians who’ve put up with unwelcome visitors since “Pizzagate” is not a happy one. Pro-Trump rallies this past November and December were notable for organized violence by members of the Proud Boys, but there were plenty of incidents like a normie-looking Trump fan who kicked a kid on a bike. Roll Call reported last week that police intelligence had picked up some chatter about potential counterprotests, which Washingtonian has so far been unable to confirm, though the group Shut Down DC has encouraged people to call hotels and urge them not to host anyone coming for the rally, and there’s talk of a counterprogramming type of gathering at Freedom Plaza, about a mile and a half south of Union Square. The National Park Service has not received any permit applications for a counterprotest at Freedom Plaza or any other location, spokesperson Mike Litterst tells Washingtonian.
Our advice remains not to go: Stay home, go to the H Street Festival, or check out the new painting that will wrap the Hirshhorn. You won’t change anyone’s mind at this thing, and, unlike the people attending, you have the glorious option of moving on with your life.
et2
Has No Life - Lives on TB
DHS expects about 700 people to show for Saturday pro-Trump D.C. rally
DHS expects about 700 people to show for pro-Trump D.C. rally Saturday, official says
A DHS official said "tens of thousands" of protesters attended the pro-Trump rally that turned violent Jan. 6, but 700 were expected Saturday.
Julia Ainsley is a correspondent covering the Department of Homeland Security and the Department of Justice for the NBC News Investigative Unit.
Sept. 14, 2021, 1:20 PM EDT
WASHINGTON — The Department of Homeland Security is estimating roughly 700 people will attend the "Justice for J6" rally in Washington, D.C., on Saturday and has taken steps to make sure law enforcement is better prepared than it was prior to Jan. 6, said Melissa Smislova, deputy undersecretary for intelligence enterprise readiness.
Saturday, Sept. 18, is the date supporters of former President Donald Trump, many with ties to groups that stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 in protest of his election loss, will return to Washington for a rally. Smislova said DHS has also learned via social media that similar protests are planned in other cities across the country.
Smislova, speaking at the Homeland Security Enterprise Forum on Tuesday, estimated "tens of thousands" of protesters attended the pro-Trump rally that turned violent in January.
DHS expects a much smaller turnout this weekend. To gauge the potential size of Saturday's crowd, she said, DHS has been tracking publicly available information on protesters, U.S. Park Police permit applications for large gatherings and hotel reservations across the U.S.
Federal law enforcement agencies, namely DHS and the FBI, have been pressed by members of Congress on why they did not more actively warn local law enforcement in Washington about the risk of violence ahead of Jan. 6.
DHS has been more proactive in sharing intelligence leading up to potentially violent events with law enforcement, something Smislova said was lacking before Jan. 6.
"What we realized after Jan. 6 is that we had gotten a little bit lax in some of the aggressive conversations," Smislova said, speaking of DHS' biweekly calls and outreach to state and local law enforcement about threats in their area. "Some of it was a lack of discipline, complacency maybe, even. ... The information was still out there, but you had to actually seek it out as opposed to having it brought to you."
She added that the department saw the events of Jan. 6 as a "failure on our part" to communicate within the department and to other agencies.
More than 600 people have been charged for their connection to the Jan. 6 riot, and both congressional and federal criminal inquiries on what led to the riots, the people involved and the delayed response from local and federal law enforcement continue.
DHS expects about 700 people to show for pro-Trump D.C. rally Saturday, official says
A DHS official said "tens of thousands" of protesters attended the pro-Trump rally that turned violent Jan. 6, but 700 were expected Saturday.
Julia Ainsley is a correspondent covering the Department of Homeland Security and the Department of Justice for the NBC News Investigative Unit.
Sept. 14, 2021, 1:20 PM EDT
WASHINGTON — The Department of Homeland Security is estimating roughly 700 people will attend the "Justice for J6" rally in Washington, D.C., on Saturday and has taken steps to make sure law enforcement is better prepared than it was prior to Jan. 6, said Melissa Smislova, deputy undersecretary for intelligence enterprise readiness.
Saturday, Sept. 18, is the date supporters of former President Donald Trump, many with ties to groups that stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 in protest of his election loss, will return to Washington for a rally. Smislova said DHS has also learned via social media that similar protests are planned in other cities across the country.
Smislova, speaking at the Homeland Security Enterprise Forum on Tuesday, estimated "tens of thousands" of protesters attended the pro-Trump rally that turned violent in January.
DHS expects a much smaller turnout this weekend. To gauge the potential size of Saturday's crowd, she said, DHS has been tracking publicly available information on protesters, U.S. Park Police permit applications for large gatherings and hotel reservations across the U.S.
Federal law enforcement agencies, namely DHS and the FBI, have been pressed by members of Congress on why they did not more actively warn local law enforcement in Washington about the risk of violence ahead of Jan. 6.
DHS has been more proactive in sharing intelligence leading up to potentially violent events with law enforcement, something Smislova said was lacking before Jan. 6.
"What we realized after Jan. 6 is that we had gotten a little bit lax in some of the aggressive conversations," Smislova said, speaking of DHS' biweekly calls and outreach to state and local law enforcement about threats in their area. "Some of it was a lack of discipline, complacency maybe, even. ... The information was still out there, but you had to actually seek it out as opposed to having it brought to you."
She added that the department saw the events of Jan. 6 as a "failure on our part" to communicate within the department and to other agencies.
More than 600 people have been charged for their connection to the Jan. 6 riot, and both congressional and federal criminal inquiries on what led to the riots, the people involved and the delayed response from local and federal law enforcement continue.
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Dobbin
Faithful Steed
I think the permit is for "mass assembly." You can say anything you want almost anywhere (well, excluding such things as the FIRE in a crowded auditorium - this goes to the danger of panic when it occurs.)
I can understand this. A large crowd needs a police presence - if for no other reason to keep someone from turning it into a "mass action." Assembly is one thing. Action is another.
Also large crowds of human leave trash, impact travel, impact local neighbors. And these either require labor to clean up, alert to those who wish to avoid, and potentially claimants against damage to property that may occur.
A permit give TPTB a head start on response.
I would be more concerned if a permit was NOT given.
And - there is a way around this. Called "Flash Mobs." But I expect these might have unexpected results too. RT 5:20
These humans have some class. Note the non-participants "stand" which since the King of England stood for this in the 18th century is considered "polite." A nice public show of respect to convention AND Maker's Son.
Why the King stood for the Hallelujah chorus
Dobbin
yep, but it will draw criticism from several different groups. Bunch of them will scream wtf, no masks!
I do hope they try to do a better job controlling their dissapointment
Something just caught my eye in the rally name.
"Justice for J6"..."justice" for (whatever) is a standard naming scheme for the commies.
"Justice for J6"..."justice" for (whatever) is a standard naming scheme for the commies.
The Snack Artist
Membership Revoked
parocan
Veteran Member
oreo express is live streaming now.
View: https://www.twitch.tv/oreoexpress
also BCP(black conservative preacher)
View: https://www.twitch.tv/thebcpreacher
Will Johnson
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbZQ_XiCwXo
The polish american brotherhood
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ7Q0GFiQsI
also BCP(black conservative preacher)
Will Johnson
The polish american brotherhood
Old Gray Mare
TB Fanatic
I don't know why there aren't protests in DC limited solely to the National Mall in front of the Capitol and the streets around it? Any "protesters" vandalizing the Capitol could be disowned from the official protest? Why not have their own security like the Civil Rights Marches to keep the more radical from getting out of hand?
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
I keep praying for no FF, but even if it isn't here and on this day, one has to come soon, both to distract from their own failures and to demonize all those who oppose them
et2
Has No Life - Lives on TB
The picture was embedded in the post. The article was from yesterday. I suppose they want to over hype today’s protest, reminding us of those crazy Trumpers
et2
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Yep looks like a non event. It’s going to be interesting to start hearing how the fake news will spin it. The hype from the Biden administration fencing DC in … is our governments intelligence this bad?
Biden will use and spin every opportunity he can to shut conservatives down … and anti-vaxers.
Just heard the speaker at the rally say the media are the ones that came up with the J6 rally. Not the protesters or organizers of it.
Biden will use and spin every opportunity he can to shut conservatives down … and anti-vaxers.
Just heard the speaker at the rally say the media are the ones that came up with the J6 rally. Not the protesters or organizers of it.
naegling62
Veteran Member
These folks are passé, Nicki Minaj is where it's at man!
et2
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Funny stuff … just started reading that post. Don’t care for her … but glad she’s got balls. Good for her
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
Just heard the speaker at the rally say the media are the ones that came up with the J6 rally. Not the protesters or organizers of it.
I had not heard that. Is that indeed the case?
It IS true that these people have been held now for over eight months without charges being filed or a trial--and most of them if charges WERE adjudicated would only be guilty of a misdemeanor offense (for which the penalty certainly is NOT a prison sentence this long)--
--but then those are just those old outdated "rules" from that dusty, ragged, worn-out, inconvenient old "Constitution" thing----the one that Pelousy must have been practicing her skills for when she tore up TRUMP's speech
Night Breeze
Veteran Member
Trump said it was a trap and I guess the annointed listened. No MAGA, no nasty guard shooting I hope no arrests, and no Piglosi international investigations. Of course there was enough media there to identify everyone attending. Even the fbi could not screw this up.
Cacheman
Ultra MAGA!
Is DC the only place where the feds set up a rally that outs their own? Can it happen where you are?
View: https://twitter.com/FordFischer/status/1439312268701863939?s=20
View: https://twitter.com/FordFischer/status/1439314612638429185?s=20
View: https://twitter.com/FordFischer/status/1439319841425530880?s=20
View: https://twitter.com/FordFischer/status/1439312268701863939?s=20
View: https://twitter.com/FordFischer/status/1439314612638429185?s=20
View: https://twitter.com/FordFischer/status/1439319841425530880?s=20
von Koehler
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I am glad so many didn't fall into Pelosi's trap.
She already has 100's in prison.
She already has 100's in prison.
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Raggedyman
Res ipsa loquitur
UNLESS OF COURSE YOU'RE BLM or ANTIFA
then you're completely free to just tear shit up, set fires and commit
NIGATRY of the highest order without encumbrances or repercussions of ANY kind what so ever
then you're completely free to just tear shit up, set fires and commit
NIGATRY of the highest order without encumbrances or repercussions of ANY kind what so ever
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wait-n-see
Veteran Member
Wonder how many "protestors" today are on the government payroll in one form or another?
Ya think maybe us taxpayers have just paid for at least 80%, if not much more, of the "protestors" to be there today.
Ya think maybe us taxpayers have just paid for at least 80%, if not much more, of the "protestors" to be there today.
et2
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Right away stupid media chick … what’s your name, what‘s your name.