BRKG Warrants Served on St. Louis Couple Who Defended Home

TammyinWI

TammyinWI

Talk is cheap
I sure hope that because of the sheer number of carousing deviants, who were shouting and hollering and threatening those persons, their property, and their dog, and because they were severely outnumbered will work in their favor somehow. I hope that there are laws that set precedent about a huge number of trespassers breaking into a gated community, or something that sets an example to the derelicts in this country, to deter further "flash mob" activity, around peoples' houses.

"Peaceful protesters," my butt.

The media folks should start getting fined for biased reporting. The cameras should have shown the whole scene, with the threats of the "peaceful protesters" clearly heard.

Maybe a house needs a fence within a fence.

Maybe the mayor who lives in that "gated community" should be charged as an instigator.

The events of the day can make a person jaded...I try not to be, but everything is just whacked.
 
Dennis Olson

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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Tammy - SPEND THE SIX MINUTES AND WATCH THE VIDEO IN POST 17.

Stop ranting until you understand the situation.
 
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waterdog

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David Nettleton said:
Read years ago that this scenario is the greatest single cause for female loss of life when holding a gun on another person. Women freeze. They threaten the perp ("One more step and I'll shoot.") The perp edges close enough to get her gun and you fill in the blanks.
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Kinda like "warning shots" some folks get their gun training on tv or the movies. Note the sideways grip ghetto rats like to use "looks cool man"
 
BadMedicine

BadMedicine

Would *I* Lie???
The community private property everybody is talking about is actually a jointly owned by all of the people in the association. So yes, the couple does own that street and it is their property. They can probably not violently protect it against other people who also own that street, but in an Association everybody pays dues and taxes on the common property, and it is commonly owned by all, and managed by Association. In the deed to the land, it explains the areas & percentages of ownership under commonality.
 
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intothatgoodnight

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Doomer Doug said:
The two lawyers had too much too loose, and were not mentally capable of defending it. BLM or whoever they are chose their target well, but what do you think would have happened if they had gone into a trailer park out in deep Missouri? Not one of them, and not any of the cops sent to guard them would have been found. And that DA, well, she would never have even left Saint Louis.
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There is always the possibility that the two Democrat firearm-brandishing lawyers were part of the larger scam, to begin with - think of the optics that the Marxist have created, particularly for their anti-2A agenda?

Victims, or "crisis actors"?

You decide. Too neat of a set-up for my tastes. Truth can be stranger than fiction.

This is war (by other means).

Waterboard the lawyers, the DA, the mob leadership and upline Marxist mob puppeteers - let's see if we can learn what is really going on - sez me.


intothegoodnight
 
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Dennis Olson

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BadMedicine said:
in an Association everybody pays dues and taxes on the common property, and it is commonly owned by all, and managed by Association. In the deed to the land, it explains the areas & percentages of ownership under commonality.
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"owned under commonality" does not bestow the "right to defend the common property" on individuals. That's the responsibility of the HOA *UNLESS* there is a "defense" clause in the HOA agreement. Nice try, but BZZZZZTTTTT!!!! missed the mark.
 
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Dozdoats

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Pretty much everything is in a state of flux right now. What used to be hard and fast rules are crumbling. What used to be dependable expectations are no longer dependable.

I went looking for more info on the video guy and failed to find anything as to his background. I have to say he's pretty good. Worth watching ...
 
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Housecarl

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That a top of the hour report on the radio news had a statement from the Missouri AG saying that the couple didn't do anything wrong isn't helping...
 
TammyinWI

TammyinWI

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She may have had the perception, honestly, that someone was pointing a firearm at them, with what was shown on the edge of the video and not shown well, the guy carrying something that looked like a gangster gun...I mean, many people would see that and think it is a weapon. Also, it seems to me that all three criteria, what the gentleman in the video points out, may have been met. It was just not shown in the news video.

The burden of proof is on them, and this whole thing gives me an uneasy feeling.

Are we in America, or is this Kazakhstan?

How did we get here?
 
Dennis Olson

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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As the man in the vid said, if you see someone pulling a gun, light them up. She would then at least have the same basic excuse cops do: "I thought he was pointing a weapon at me and I was in fear for my life." No, she was simply waving it around. HER BAD.
 
Doomer Doug

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The DA overplayed her hand by charging the husband and illegally seizing his AR-15. Further, she can now be sued by the husband, and even disbarred. Finally, the husband can make a deal with the Marxist bitch DA where she drops all charges against the wife in return for his not destroying her. This particular case has been POLITICAL from the first moment. The key thing is whether the mob TURNED ON THEM. The mob didn't and that sealed her fate. Still, that stupid Soros funded bitch can't charge her without him nailing her. I took basic at Fort Leonard Wood in 1973. Missouri is a red state outside of Saint Louis and she forgot that. The wife and husband walk, maybe the wife gets probation, and the Marxist Bitch DA avoids disbarment, or impeachment. BLM and Antifa ain't as smart as they think they are. :crtmn:
 
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Troke

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Dennis Olson said:
Here's my take on the end result:

They'll do a year on a "brandishing" conviction, lose their guns, and when they get out, they'll return to a charred out shell of a home.

Cancel culture wins again....
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Actually not a good thing for them naturally, but maybe good for us Lesser Classes. The day comes the Elite in this country suddenly realize that they are threatened behind their locked gates, that is the day a lot of this crap will stop dead as the hammer comes down..
 
bev

bev

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Wargus said:
Mao Zedong said "Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun". China’s crackdown on gun control started in 1966. They extended it in 1996 when the government banned everything to do with firearms without the old official ok.
Just another turn of the gears in the communist machine. Slowly treading forward with YOU under it.
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Hey Wargus, would you mind changing the color of the text please? It’s extremely hard to read. Thanks!
 
bev

bev

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In my basic firearms safety class, the instructor first gave us the most important rules. A gun is always loaded, and don’t point your gun at anything you don’t intend to kill.

I knew right off that she was not following the rules. Plus, one-handed, bent elbow, moving it all over the place with her finger on the trigger. No training. The charges should stand.
 
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intothatgoodnight

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Wargus said:
Mao Zedong said "Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun". China’s crackdown on gun control started in 1966. They extended it in 1996 when the government banned everything to do with firearms without the old official ok.
Just another turn of the gears in the communist machine. Slowly treading forward with YOU under it.
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Now it is readable.


intothegoodnight
 
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Nowski

Nowski

Let's Go Brandon!
Dennis Olson said:
Here's my take on the end result:

They'll do a year on a "brandishing" conviction, lose their guns, and when they get out, they'll return to a charred out shell of a home.

Cancel culture wins again....
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^^^^THIS^^^^

They crossed the line, and they are going to pay.

As I have stated many times on this board,
I listened to a lot of urban talk radio,
mostly during the late 1990’s, and up until about 2005,
when the urban talk radio station, changed its format.

Changing the criminal justice system, which is happening
right now, along with slavery and Jim Crow reparations,
which are going to occur, were the primary subjects often discussed.

The secondary subjects were, how much the POS Africans
hate concealed carry, and hate gated communities.

POS Africans view gated communities, as being a remnant
of segregation, and they want them outlawed.

This incident that occurred in St. Louis, may see gated
communities being outlawed, as some states such as Virginia,
have taken away, or are going to take away, zoning from
local authorities.

I cannot believe, at how much the ZUSA has fallen apart,
in the first half of 2020, due to the DNC released COVID-19,
and the martyrdom of Saint George Floyd.

There will be no recovery. Nothing but absolute hell is
what is coming, nothing but absolute hell.

Please be safe everyone. Time is just about up.

Regards to all.

Nowski
 
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Dozdoats

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I cannot believe, at how much the ZUSA has fallen apart,
in the first half of 2020, due to the DNC released COVID-19,
and the martyrdom of Saint George Floyd.

The narrow edge of the wedge goes in first ...
 
rbt

rbt

Veteran Member
Missouri AG on Reported McCloskey Search: Prosecutor Has ‘Record’ of ‘Politically-Motivated Decisions’

IAN HANCHETT10 Jul 20201,637

On Friday’s broadcast of the Fox News Channel’s “Fox News @ Night,” Missouri Attorney General Eric Schmitt (R) reacted to reports that a search warrant was served by St. Louis police on the home of Mark and Patricia McCloskey by stating that Missouri law gives individuals “really expansive authority” to protect themselves and their property and said that St. Louis Circuit Attorney Kim Gardner (D) “has a record of making politically-motivated decisions not based on the law.”
Schmitt said that under the state’s Castle Doctrine law, “an individual has really expansive authority to protect their own lives, their home, and their property. And I think the story here to watch here is the local prosecutor, Kim Gardner. Kim Gardner has an abysmal record in prosecuting violent crime, has recently released and been complicit in the release of dozens and dozens of inmates who have been charged with violent crimes, and has a record of making politically-motivated decisions not based on the law. So, this is certainly something to watch.”

This is interesting sounds like normal
 
Dobbin

Dobbin

Faithful Steed
rbt said:
This is interesting sounds like normal
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For a Dem controlled state.

Government of "pull" not of laws. Friend of a friend, my brother-in-law's Judge buddy, member of my political committee sort of state.

It used to be called "Machine" politics. Chicago was famous for it. So was Boston during the Irish-Catholic era and the James Michael Curley machine. (the Boston Alderman elected from a jail cell.)

Wikipedia: (James Michael Curley)
His political tactics, which tended to drive businesses and economically successful people from the city, damaging the local economy, have become a source of study for economists and political scientists.
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Sound familiar? One imagines studied widely at Harvard and Yale.

Dobbin
 
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Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
Next time change your text color to white. Like this- that will really freak people out. See? :D

Highlight to read the above, of course.
 
Wargus

Wargus

Mildly off
Dozdoats said:
Next time change your text color to white. Like this- that will really freak people out. See? :D

Highlight to read the above, of course.
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I use the dark screen version of the forum. So it didn’t seem unreadable to me. But I do understand that most probably don’t use it.
 
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bassgirl

Veteran Member
You see what they are doing. Since they can’t control the gun sales. Then they will control the the ability to use them.
 
Doomer Doug

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
Nowski said:
^^^^THIS^^^^

They crossed the line, and they are going to pay.

As I have stated many times on this board,
I listened to a lot of urban talk radio,
mostly during the late 1990’s, and up until about 2005,
when the urban talk radio station, changed its format.

Changing the criminal justice system, which is happening
right now, along with slavery and Jim Crow reparations,
which are going to occur, were the primary subjects often discussed.

The secondary subjects were, how much the POS Africans
hate concealed carry, and hate gated communities.

POS Africans view gated communities, as being a remnant
of segregation, and they want them outlawed.

This incident that occurred in St. Louis, may see gated
communities being outlawed, as some states such as Virginia,
have taken away, or are going to take away, zoning from
local authorities.

I cannot believe, at how much the ZUSA has fallen apart,
in the first half of 2020, due to the DNC released COVID-19,
and the martyrdom of Saint George Floyd.

There will be no recovery. Nothing but absolute hell is
what is coming, nothing but absolute hell.

Please be safe everyone. Time is just about up.

Regards to all.

Nowski
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Cheer up, Nowski, I got my concealed carry permit today, which means I can go down blasting.:sh2:
 
rob0126

rob0126

Veteran Member
Practical said:
Glad it made the media...if the thugs want to come back a third time, they know that no guns live in the house now. Might as well hang a sign saying Open House, Help Yourselves!
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Being the rich folks that they are, I could only imagine what they have stocked away as show pieces. (AA12, Tavor TS12, HK MP5, barrett M82A1, Thompson M1, etc)
 
rob0126

rob0126

Veteran Member
Dennis Olson said:
Doug’s 6 minute video in post 17 clearly defines what they did wrong. The husband was fine and should get off. The wife was CLEARLY “brandishing,” and will probably be convicted. Watch the vid. Everyone needs to commit those facts to memory.


He will, she won’t.


They’re PERFECT for the cause of “educating the clueless suburbanites” however. It’s clear that these people just went to a gun store and bought “something.” (“Dear, we’ve got to get something for self defense.” “I know sweetheart, but what?” “I’m not sure. Let’s get one of those and one of those.”) No training, no understanding of how to operate them, or “shoot/don’t shoot” rules. To be frank, I doubt he’d chambered a round in his AR, and may not have even known how to operate the charging handle.

The wife was completely out of control, sweeping the crowd repeatedly with the barrel. And that one-handed, bent elbow, limp-wristed grip on the gun? If that were a 9mm or greater, and if she’d had to fire it, after the first shot the gun would be laying on the ground.

No, the couple is a textbook case for “clueless liberals” who’d never touched firearms before. This little trip through the criminal justice system is going to accomplish two things: first, it’s going to separate them from about a quarter million in attorney fees, and second, it’s going to drive the point home about how to properly deploy firearms in self-defense. Too bad they didn’t take a weekend class on defensive firearms use for a couple hundred bucks. Oh well, they were “woke” and knew better than everyone else.

Personally I have no sympathy for them. And remind me to NOT be in a critical situation with those of you who don’t recognize the extraordinarily poor weapon skills the couple displayed.
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Too many tv shows, not enough instructional videos?
 
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Old Gray Mare

TB Fanatic
The crowd threatened their lives, even threatened to kill their dog. I can understand them "being in fear for their lives". I also agree the wife should never had been given that weapon. It's a wonder no one got shot.

I find it ironic. They're served for protecting themselves and their home without harming or killing anyone. Someone from CHAZ/CHOP shot two kids, killed one and no one has gotten served as of yet.
 
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ssonb

Senior Member
1.. Scared people do stupid things
2.. Untrained scared people do stupider things
3.. In most private communities your property line ends at the center of the road
 
Dennis Olson

Dennis Olson

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ssonb said:
In most private communities your property line ends at the center of the road
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Not buying that AT ALL. Normally there is a “setback” which is a certain distance outward from the center of the street. Your property starts where the setback ends.
 
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CaryC

CaryC

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Dennis Olson said:
Not buying that AT ALL. Normally there is a “setback” which is a certain distance outward from the center of the street. Your property stats where the setback ends.
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In MS that is 30 feet from center. Admittedly that is on our country roads, where it ain't much better than a one lane road, in a NASCAR race.

Zoom, zoom, hey buddy that was my mirror.
 
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