Pandemic Vitamin D and Zinc

rolenrock

Senior Member
Excellent! I take and recommend 8000 IU of D3 daily and zinc as well several times a week as well as a daily Epi-Cor. I highly recommend this regime. This confirms the D3 and zinc. Thanks for posting this!
 

lonestar09

Veteran Member
Here is the article from above:



RodrigoJimenez-Saiz, Dept. Immunology & Oncology, Madrid, Spain


Cezmi A Akdis, Swiss Institute of Allergy & Asthma Research, Davos, Switzerland


In response to your paper published in ALLERGY, authored by 42 worldwide authors, entitled A COMPENDIUM ANSWERING 150 QUESTIONS ON COVID-19 AND SARD-CoV-2, I offer the following commentary.


Your comprehensive list of 150-questions regarding COVID-19 coronavirus left many unanswered questions.


COVID-19 is NOT the gravest health and socio-economic crisis of our time.


The pandemic is being used as cover for a collapsed economy in the US and the world that has borrowed from its future income to the point of collapse.


Modern medicine has priced itself out of business, which is part of the financial collapse.


Modern medicine extols itself as being heroic while it was totally unprepared for an event that was predicted, which suggests a pre-planned epidemic and even a man-made virus (two Nobel laureates say the virus appears to be genetically altered).


You beg for more quality studies while you fail to employ a known antidote —— sunshine vitamin D.


While so many more die a horrid death from lung disease caused by Mycobacterium tuberculosis (1.4 million a year), a collective of physicians and researchers writing in ALLERGY focus on COVID-19 that infects many but kills few.


In fact, it appears many cases of TB were misclassified as COVID-19. In fact, Wuhan, Modena and New York City, where many COVID-19 deaths were reported, had been battling TB for some time before COVID-19 gained public attention.


It IS the repeat of 1918 – – U.C. Berkeley demographers only recently found the Spanish Flu of 1918 was caused by tuberculosis, not influenza. The massive die off of TB patients, realized in the aftermath of the so-called flu pandemic and the younger age of the infected individuals (18-44) pointed to TB, not influenza. Immigrants from 3rd world countries who have latent TB comprise a significant portion of the population in Modena, Italy and New York City, where COVID-19 is said to be epidemic.


The masses have had to deal with so many misdirections issued by public health organizations. The medical community should have been instructing the public to get sunshine, take vitamins and boost zinc intake which is required to produce T-cells. Doctoring if anything induced deaths due to ventilator lung trauma. COVID-19 is just another of modern medicine’s shameful and avoidable failures.


The COVID-19 pandemic reveals a medical community that is over-reliant upon vaccination. Vaccination has reached a point where there are 72 approved vaccines in the U.S. and 240 more under development, which is absurd. The human thymus gland produces T-cells that activate antibodies against each and every pathogen that attacks the body. No vaccination required.


Vaccination is archaic, impractical, problematic, and ineffective. Vaccines don’t work if the thymus gland lacks zinc. T-memory cells are not adequately produced without zinc. Mass zinc and vitamin D distribution should have ensued if for no other reason than to improve response to a newly approved vaccine when it becomes available. Doctors continue to over-vaccinate. What is the number needed to treat for the flu vaccine? The NNT for all childhood vaccines?


A draconian over-response comprised of useless mask wearing, social distancing and lockdown has left no life or income to return to. Is this what modern medicine has come to? Quarantine to the point of suicide and poverty?


High-risk individuals (diabetics, smokers, hypertensives, autoimmune) should have been isolated, their immunity boosted, and the remaining healthy population would have been free to navigate in society.


The COVID-19 pandemic has left the masses to resort to self-care, with great success. With no approved drugs or vaccines available, vitamins have been swept off store shelves. Cardiologists wonder where all their heart attack patients went, failing to recognize that when Dr. Linus Pauling published his book VITAMIN C AND THE COMMON COLD in the 1970s, a rush for vitamin C pills resulted in a 40% decline in mortality from coronary artery disease. The same has now happened again as the public’s fear of COVID-19 caused them to intuitively reach for vitamin C pills. Cardiologists are clueless.


For the most part, people got well on their own and used overlooked and disregarded vitamins and minerals to successfully boost immunity. No doctoring required. The medical community continues to claim vitamin and mineral therapy is unproven, but it certainly isn’t disproven. Nowhere in your 93-page paper that asked and answered 150 questions were the words vitamin and mineral mentioned, an inexplicable oversight.


While your paper calls for more quality studies, all that is needed is a vitamin D test upon hospital admission, to prove or disprove its value.


Months late, if not years too late, we find hospitalized vitamin D-deficient patients have a 98.9% death rate versus 4.1% for those who have adequate blood levels of vitamin D (see graphic below).


To make things worse, public health authorities miscalculated (intentionally?) the amount of vitamin D required to maintain health. The RDA remains woefully inadequate. Modern medicine miscalculated the need for vitamin D by 20-fold (see abstract below). While 400 international units of vitamin D is still considered adequate for health in many countries (that is equivalent to ~1.5 minutes of sunshine) and 2000 units as the upper limit of intake, a recalculation shows 8000 international units of vitamin D is needed daily. Modern medicine considers 8000 units of vitamin D to be an overdose when 30 minutes of total-body exposure to midday sunshine produces ~10,000 units of vitamin D without side effect. Again, another absurdity. In fact, 300,000 units of vitamin D is injected for wintertime bone protection without side effect.


That the medical community continues to ignore the obvious link between the seasonality of infectious diseases and the lack of solar-radiation in winter months, with the solar solstice being the prime factor that predicts seasonal onset, and cold winter months inducing the masses to wear warm clothing that blocks solar radiation from reaching the skin, points only in one direction — the lack of vitamin D is primary controlling factor.


And the fact a strong portion of COVID-19-related deaths were among those who were confined indoors (nursing home patients, healthcare workers) or among darkly pigmented individuals who require six-fold more sun exposure to produce sufficient amounts of vitamin D (blacks), again points to a lack of vitamin D. This suggests modern medicine is playing the fiddle while Rome burns.


Humanity now awaits another infectious disease disaster. Most people who have recovered from COVID-19 coronavirus infection do not exhibit antibodies. Apparently antibodies are short-lived. Experts point to zinc-dependent T-cells as being responsible for the immunity. That means that everyone who attempts to secure an “immunity passport” for air travel will fail to exhibit antibodies and therefore won’t qualify for an air travel card and will have to be needlessly vaccinated.


Hopefully the public has developed a reliance upon vitamin therapy and self-care and won’t return to the many nostrums that modern medicine dispenses.

The Big Vitamin D Mistake


Dimitrios T Papadimitriou


Since 2006, type 1 diabetes in Finland has plateaued and then decreased after the authorities’ decision to fortify dietary milk products with cholecalciferol. The role of vitamin D in innate and adaptive immunity is critical. A statistical error in the estimation of the recommended dietary allowance (RDA) for vitamin D was recently discovered; in a correct analysis of the data used by the Institute of Medicine, it was found that 8895 IU/d was needed for 97.5% of individuals to achieve values ≥50 nmol/L. Another study confirmed that 6201 IU/d was needed to achieve 75 nmol/L and 9122 IU/d was needed to reach 100 nmol/L. The largest meta-analysis ever conducted of studies published between 1966 and 2013 showed that 25-hydroxyvitamin D levels <75 nmol/L may be too low for safety and associated with higher all-cause mortality, demolishing the previously presumed U-shape curve of mortality associated with vitamin D levels. Since all-disease mortality is reduced to 1.0 with serum vitamin D levels ≥100 nmol/L, we call public health authorities to consider designating as the RDA at least three-fourths of the levels proposed by the Endocrine Society Expert Committee as safe upper tolerable daily intake doses. This could lead to a recommendation of 1000 IU for children <1 year on enriched formula and 1500 IU for breastfed children older than 6 months, 3000 IU for children >1 year of age, and around 8000 IU for young adults and thereafter. Actions are urgently needed to protect the global population from vitamin D deficiency.
 

BenIan

Veteran Member
So, what is the best form of zinc to take. I take a zinc supplement but I'm fairly certain I'm not absorbing the appropriate amount.
 

jed turtle

a brother in the Lord
Bttt, ought to have posted this on the MAIN forum even if just for a short ride before it got shuttled to a su forum like this
 

Hfcomms

EN66iq
So, what is the best form of zinc to take. I take a zinc supplement but I'm fairly certain I'm not absorbing the appropriate amount.

Zinc Picolinate and Quercetin to help with absorption. Zinc on it's own doesn't absorb well intercellularly and that is why for Covid the HCL does little without the Zinc. The HCL is an ionophore of Zinc which speeds absorption and Quercetin which is available OTC does the same thing although not as efficiently from what I've read. The ZP should be a 50mg tab a day and the Quercetin 1000mg.
 

Grounded Idealist

Hope Always
So, what is the best form of zinc to take. I take a zinc supplement but I'm fairly certain I'm not absorbing the appropriate amount.
Based in the little bit of research that I’ve done, it is not known which form is best.

The attached article is super interesting and is probably more than you wanted to know about zinc, essentially says that science hasn’t figured out the best form. However, it does emphasize several times throughout the article the danger of copper deficiency as the result of long-term supplementation of night amounts of zinc (<40mg/day).

My thought is to take the supplement while continuing to research and share info in forums such as this one so that each may make the best decisions for their own unique circumstances.

 

rolenrock

Senior Member
I have no more info than we read here. They will probably all work, 50 mg elemental is probably enough in any form.
Thanks, it's tough figuring all this out. I wish we could have a few years active research and hindsight on this but it'll come down the road. Meantime, hopefully we won't cause any damage to our bodies as we learn.
 
Thanks, it's tough figuring all this out. I wish we could have a few years active research and hindsight on this but it'll come down the road. Meantime, hopefully we won't cause any damage to our bodies as we learn.
I would like to think there is enough knowledge around here to wipe out this pandemic if we could just get everyone onboard, distribute the meds and properly use them all at once. CDC, WHO, NIH, Bill Gates, all those together could easily do this, easily.
They seem to have other plans, though.
 

Hfcomms

EN66iq
The only way to know for sure is do a blood draw and have your levels tested. What you are taking should be more than enough and is more than I take. And I don’t take any in the warmer months as I get enough sunshine to synthesize my own. You can overdue it with certain supplements and that can be as harmful as not doing any supplementation. More is not necessarily better.
 
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