CORONA Vaccination Passports For Hawaii Travel

Old Gray Mare

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Currently preflight Covid test is required and that is not being changed due to the possibility of asymptomatic carriers.

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Latest News: Vaccination Passports For Hawaii Travel
MARCH 25, 2021 by BEAT OF HAWAII

Hawaii could soon reveal its vaccination passport travel plan while the U.S. may also decide on a national vaccine passport. That according to multiple sources. The federal government has been tasked to “assess the feasibility” of doing so. Challenges still exist that make this complicated for Hawaii travel due to security issues at various levels and accessibility.

What is holding up vaccination passport travel now?

On the one hand, Lt. Governor Josh Green still wants to see a Hawaii vaccination passport no later than May. Others, including the head of the Hawaii Emergency Management Agency, are concerned about successfully bringing this to fruition by that time. Green was quoted as saying he also believes that the program “will be nationwide.”

This remains a most requested component of Hawaii travel planning now. Visitors and residents are anxious to travel more freely and without all of the current encumbrances, including strict testing and vaccines, hold the hope of that happening. We believe that the current COVID travel rules will remain in effect for those who choose not to be vaccinated.

Hawaii officials haven’t yet fully agreed on all the details, but the state has said that vaccinations will only be an option, not a requirement. That means that testing and quarantine are likely to remain the other options for the foreseeable future.

Sticking points include vaccination verification with the VAMS system.

Hawaii uploads the vaccination details, name, and birthdate for each person into the national Vaccine Administration Management System (VAMS). Green said, however, that the system “will be helpful nationally.” What isn’t clear is whether every state will use it and what happens for Hawaii visitors arriving from states that may not participate. Hawaii Emergency Management Head Kenneth Hara said this might not be bulletproof, and names may be inconsistent with identification, for example.

How handwritten vaccination cards get into this system is also not clear. But Lt. Gov. Green, who admits there are issues still to address, still believes this will work.

As a fallback, Green said that if the technology associated with vaccination passports isn’t ready for primetime, the physical vaccination cards may still be what is required for Hawaii. On the other hand, Hara is concerned that it may be possible to create counterfeit physical immunization cards.

Hawaii vaccination travel plan from Lt. Governor Green.

1. Essential workers who have been vaccinated will be allowed to travel without other conditions first. That could be announced at any time, and his suggestion is it will be quite soon.

2. Interisland travel will follow, and here too, it is expected soon if the Lt. Governor gets what he wants from the Governor. He said that should happen by April, which is just next week.

3. Mainland travel will be last, and on that front, Green now says he would like to see that come to fruition in May.

Green and Governor Ige have both stated that Hawaii is awaiting CDC guidance to confirm that those who have been vaccinated are not potential carriers.

CommonPass vaccination passport verification.

Hawaii has been working with companies in the vaccination passport marketplace for whenever vaccine passport travel becomes feasible. Hawaii is all but certain to implement CommonPass from the choice of three best-known providers of vaccination verification that also includes Verifly and IATA Travel Pass.

What happens to the state’s current Safe Travels programs, and whether it will somehow work in concert with a new vaccination passport, isn’t known. Hawaii established Safe Travel to track test results digitally rather than vaccinations. It is considered more secure than paper results, although it is clearly not the long-term solution provided by CommonPass.

Are you planning a Hawaii vacation without quarantine or testing? As it’s looking now, you’ll need to do it within three months of your vaccination. Hopefully, with more guidance, that will be extended soon.

Revised on March 25, 2021

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Josie

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Friend of mine is planning a trip to Hawaii this summer. She said that originally, you had to have a negative covid test within 72 hours of flying or spend 2 weeks in quarantine. Well, two weeks is her vacation! So she was going to opt for the vaccine but has to wait for the 90 day window and show proof. I told her that I hope the "immunity" from the vaccine lasts more than 90 days or it just isn't worth it!!
 
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alpha

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I'm not only trying to figure out how an experimental non-vaccine administered under emergency use regulations can become mandatory, but also why that non-vaccine, which does not prevent you from getting CV-19 nor stop you from spreading it as an asymptomatic carrier, will be considered your 'good to go passport'.
 

Old Gray Mare

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Hopefully tourism will crater and really hit them in the wallet
Planes are currently coming in with seemingly little if any change in number of cases. Number of cases not CV deaths are used to justify lockdowns etc. There has recently been a significant let up in Hawaiian CV restrictions and I'm wondering if that will change immediately after spring primary elections?

Tourism is nowhere close to its preCV level and is hurting a large number of businesses and the population financially. TPB are talking about raising taxes to the highest level in the US despite the current suffering.
 

Issy

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I'm pretty sure Oahu is pretty near normal tourism now as well. Only Big Island and Kauai are not. And those two islands were the only two to put residents safety above tourism. It is a razor's edge to be sure.

Here on Maui people are talking about recalling our county mayor for the way things have been handled. An article yesterday said there were about 69,000 tourists on our island at present. Near 100% rooms filled. No rental cars available. 3 1/2 week wait for a dinner reservation at Mama's Fish House. And yet local kids can't go to school. Something very wrong here!

Issy
 

AlaskaSue

North to the Future
I'm pretty sure Oahu is pretty near normal tourism now as well. Only Big Island and Kauai are not. And those two islands were the only two to put residents safety above tourism. It is a razor's edge to be sure.

Here on Maui people are talking about recalling our county mayor for the way things have been handled. An article yesterday said there were about 69,000 tourists on our island at present. Near 100% rooms filled. No rental cars available. 3 1/2 week wait for a dinner reservation at Mama's Fish House. And yet local kids can't go to school. Something very wrong here!

Issy
I love Maui, wish I could visit a lot more often. I ALWAYS go to Paia, and my current avatar is on the beach in front of Mama's Fish House.

I agree completely with how Alpha put it up-thread. Not sure yet how to figure this one out if I want to go there; so far my other Outside (Alaska) travels are less-restricted.
 

Issy

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I love Maui, wish I could visit a lot more often. I ALWAYS go to Paia, and my current avatar is on the beach in front of Mama's Fish House.

I agree completely with how Alpha put it up-thread. Not sure yet how to figure this one out if I want to go there; so far my other Outside (Alaska) travels are less-restricted.
Aloha Sue,

Next time you are here, come see me! We'll go do real island stuff. (Now if we can get Vessie here too)

It sounds complicated to comply to get here. But not so much really. Get a positive covid test 3 days prior to coming from one of the "approved testers" on the travel website and come. That is it. For Maui County and Oahu. Requirements for the other 2 islands are different.

Issy
 

AlaskaSue

North to the Future
Aloha Sue,

Next time you are here, come see me! We'll go do real island stuff. (Now if we can get Vessie here too)

It sounds complicated to comply to get here. But not so much really. Get a positive covid test 3 days prior to coming from one of the "approved testers" on the travel website and come. That is it. For Maui County and Oahu. Requirements for the other 2 islands are different.

Issy
I'm thinking realllll hard about this one...sounds like something I want to do for sure! :)
 
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