GOV/MIL US may consider placing nukes in Poland, Baltic States, report says

jward

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US may consider placing nukes in Poland, Baltic States, report says​

Linus Höller​

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A pair of inert B61-12 gravity bombs, sans nuclear warheads, are mounted in a U.S. F-35A weapons bay for testing at Hill Air Force Base in Utah. (Craig Fritz/Sandia National Laboratories)

VIENNA — U.S. officials are engaged in NATO-internal discussions about the possibility of deploying nuclear weapons to new countries within the alliance, a new report says, in what would be a remarkable proliferation in nuclear sharing.
The Financial Times was the first to report the discussions on Tuesday, citing three unnamed people “briefed on the discussions.” The conversations were reportedly focused on the forward deployment of what Washington calls dual-capable aircraft - military jets that can carry out either conventional missions or drop nuclear bombs.

Such DCAs are integral to the NATO nuclear sharing architecture, which currently has forward-deployed U.S. nuclear bombs at air bases in the Netherlands, Belgium, Germany, Italy, Turkey and the U.K.
Countries at the eastern flank of NATO, particularly Poland and the Baltic States, were the most vocally interested in hosting U.S. dual-capable aircraft, the Financial Times reported its sources as saying.
Poland has publicly courted nuclear bombs being deployed in its country to deter Russia, with former president Duda explicitly inviting such a deployment from the U.S. This has since been walked back somewhat by the new government, but the conversation remains active and urgent in Warsaw.

Poland has also signed up for France’s “forward deterrence” scheme, which promises to expand the French nuclear umbrella over the Eastern European country and may see the temporary deployment of French nuclear-capable jets to Poland down the line.
According to the Financial Times, the current U.S. nuclear sharing discussions are being held through NATO channels.
The alliance is undergoing a transformation as the U.S. reduces its focus and conventional forces in Europe, and capitals on the continent significantly step up their own defense spending. The discussion surrounding expanded U.S. nuclear sharing is meant to assuage fears in European capitals that they may be left to fend for themselves by their powerful treaty partner in Washington, the FT cited its sources as saying.

While the discussions were ongoing, an agreement to expand U.S. nuclear hosting was not imminent, an unnamed source told the FT.
Linus Höller is Defense News' Europe correspondent and OSINT investigator. He reports on the arms deals, sanctions, and geopolitics shaping Europe and the world. He holds master’s degrees in WMD nonproliferation, terrorism studies, and international relations, and works in four languages: English, German, Russian, and Spanish.


US may consider placing nukes in Poland, Baltic States, report says
 

Wildweasel

F-4 Phantoms Phorever
Good. Reposition them and all the US Air Force out of Germany. Because they don't want us there anymore.

But Poland gladly welcomes US military forces and US troops get royal treatment there. Plus our facilities in Poland are new versus very old facilities in Germany. US troops in barracks used by Nazi troops before WWII doesn't say modern living conditions to me.

Win-win in moving to Poland as I see it.
 

Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
I've noted this before and will again now, the SSBNs and cruise missile armed attack submarines are a lot more secure and usable than a B61 getting "trucked" by an F-35 or prior generation jet in that role.

To get "serious" GLCMs and IRBMs/MRBMs would need to be reintroduced into NATO by the member nations.

Such weapons and delivery systems on the ground in Europe mainly serve the role of pushed pawns to remind everyone that they really don't want to open the barn door.

The lessons being offered by the Russo-Ukraine War and the Iran conflict are going to have a lot of down the road effects upon things.
 

jward

passin' thru
Good. Reposition them and all the US Air Force out of Germany. Because they don't want us there anymore.

But Poland gladly welcomes US military forces and US troops get royal treatment there. Plus our facilities in Poland are new versus very old facilities in Germany. US troops in barracks used by Nazi troops before WWII doesn't say modern living conditions to me.

Win-win in moving to Poland as I see it.
I suspect this is more about sending messages, than it is about sending nukes, and that any reshuffling that is really done will be to contract our footprints, but hey :: shrug :: your proposal works for me, too
 

Doc1

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Once again Poland is being used as a pawn.i hope they know better.

Apparently not. In fact, they seem to be welcoming such deployments. This is the strategic equivalent of the Poles taping a large "Kick me" sign on their butt. The Poles seem to believe that hosting nuclear weapons on their soil will serve a deterrent function towards the Russians. By my lights it will only cause them to be a first strike target.

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Doc
 

doctor_fungcool

TB Fanatic
Apparently not. In fact, they seem to be welcoming such deployments. This is the strategic equivalent of the Poles taping a large "Kick me" sign on their butt. The Poles seem to believe that hosting nuclear weapons on their soil will serve a deterrent function towards the Russians. By my lights it will only cause them to be a first strike target.

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Doc
Poles opening up for annihilation. They become a real life TAR BABY.
 

Zahra

Veteran Member
If I was a member of Russia's Duma or its President Nukes placed in Nato's Baltic allied countries would be the equivalent of Nukes in Cuba aimed at the US. That would be a hard red line that would require immediate kinetic response!
 
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