WAR US/Iran war. Non news discussion.
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mrrk1562
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i think that the uranium that iran has ,came from the 20% yellow cake uranium that Hillary clinton sold to the russians .which is why president trump wants it back so bad . these things can be traced back to their source ..gee a couple of nukes get dropped on a country .kind of hard to prove we did nt do when the evidence point right to the united states ..
Hognutz
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R/T 41sec.
View: https://twitter.com/acyn/status/2042093999608021403?s=46
Tucker: It’s time to establish a healthy relationship where Israel can pay its own bills, fund its own military, and act within the constraints imposed by its own economy and population.
That’s what normal countries do. Most countries live with neighbors that don’t like them, with whom they have testy relationships, but they make accommodations because they have no choice.
There’s no country in the world that acts with total impunity because it knows a much larger country will backstop it no matter what it does. That just doesn’t exist in the natural world, because it’s not natural.
View: https://twitter.com/acyn/status/2042093999608021403?s=46
Tucker: It’s time to establish a healthy relationship where Israel can pay its own bills, fund its own military, and act within the constraints imposed by its own economy and population.
That’s what normal countries do. Most countries live with neighbors that don’t like them, with whom they have testy relationships, but they make accommodations because they have no choice.
There’s no country in the world that acts with total impunity because it knows a much larger country will backstop it no matter what it does. That just doesn’t exist in the natural world, because it’s not natural.
Which normal countries is he referring to? We give financial and/or military aid to half the world. Including Israel’s neighbors in the Middle East.
Never mind that we have funded Western Europe’s defense for the last 80+ years so that they can keep their pesky neighbors from obliterating them.
We give billions to Taiwan.
What is different about Western Europe & Taiwan? Or Egypt & Jordan?
If Israel actually acted with total impunity it would’ve eliminated its pesky neighbors decades ago. Or they would’ve eliminated Israel.
Tucker is an asshat & an anti-Semite.
Old Greek
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I 100% support the US backing Israel. FTC!
Hognutz
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BREAKING: The United States has now deployed more than 50,000 troops across the Middle East, with numbers continuing to surge, per Reuters.
BREAKING: The United States has now deployed more than 50,000 troops across the Middle East, with numbers continuing to surge, per Reuters.
I think before we give 1 cent to another country we should be taking care of our own country and people. We don't have any money anyway, just look at out national debt 39 trillion and growing. As a country we need to provide for our own people first. I can look around and see homelessness, lack of health care, lack of mental health care, and people going hungry. A person should not have to go into massive debt because of medical issues.
I am curious, why do think Tucker Carlson is a anti semite? I have heard him that he doesn't agree or fully support Israel, but never heard him say anything bad about jewish people. Not saying that he has never done that, just that I haven't heard it
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hiwall
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I cannot come up with a way this war turns out well.
Obviously the ceasefire is a joke.
Seems like Iran has zero plans to ever allow free passage through the strait again, plus limit the number of ships also even if they pay a toll.
The world economies are already crumbling from the lack of enough fuels.
It's seems all downhill from here.
Obviously the ceasefire is a joke.
Seems like Iran has zero plans to ever allow free passage through the strait again, plus limit the number of ships also even if they pay a toll.
The world economies are already crumbling from the lack of enough fuels.
It's seems all downhill from here.
That's just it. According to the zionists and many on this forum, that is all it takes to make you a disgusting jew hating antisemite. Anything but unconditional wholesale sold out worship of Israel = anti-semitism.
Some Jaded Shah Supporters Express Regret After Scale Of US Bombing On Iran Revealed
by Tyler DurdenThursday, Apr 09, 2026 - 09:10 PM
Via Middle East Eye
The cessation of US-Israeli strikes has brought relief to people in Iran. For those among them who began the conflict supportive of the assault, it also came with a kind of realization. “I thought this was it,” says Leila, 25. “I thought the Islamic Republic was finally coming to an end.”
Leila, who like all Iranians Middle East Eye spoke to is identified using a pseudonym to protect her own safety, says she believed the strikes on her country would be short and decisive – that they would lead to political change. “I even thought the US and Israel had already agreed with Reza Pahlavi about Iran’s future,” she said. “I was wrong.”
Leila is not alone. In the early days of the conflict, some Iranian opponents of the ruling establishment saw Donald Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu as potential forces for change, even as unlikely allies. But as the war dragged on, and the scale of destruction became clearer, those expectations faded dramatically.
“Why did they hit bridges?” Leila asks. “Why destroy railway lines? Why target oil depots?” She shakes her head. “How does that help change a government?”
In January, at the height of massive anti-establishment protests in Iran and the authorities’ crackdown, Trump took to social media to tell demonstrators that help was on its way. But last Tuesday, he told Iran: “A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again”, before backing down and agreeing a ceasefire.
For anti-establishment Iranians like Leila, the contrast was shocking. “In the span of just two months, we went from ‘help is on the way’ to threats about the destruction of Iranian civilization,” she says. For Leila, the consequences were not only political, but personal. “I lost friends over this,” she says.
She recalls arguments with people who warned her not to trust foreign powers. “They told me Trump and Netanyahu were no better,” she said. “But I didn’t listen. I accused them of supporting the government.”
Some of those friendships have not recovered. “Now I feel like everything I believed in just collapsed,” she says.
'We thought it would be quick'
Ali, 29, had similar expectations. He says that after the January protests he came to believe that change could only come through force. The demonstrations began in response to rising inflation and spread into nationwide, anti-establishment protests.The government says that 3,117 people were killed – including protesters, security forces and bystanders. The US-based human rights organisation Human Rights Activists News Agency estimates at least 7,015 deaths.
“We thought war would finish everything,” Ali says. Instead, it destroyed his family home. “Our house was flattened,” he says. “We were lucky to survive. But now we have nowhere to go.”
Ali says he believed claims that the strikes would be precise. “They said they would target specific people and military sites. We thought their technology was advanced enough to avoid civilians,” he says. “Maybe when they realised they couldn’t change the system, they started hitting everything,” he adds. “Or maybe I was just naive.”
Those who never believed
Not all anti-establishment Iranians shared that early optimism. Maryam, 47, says she never believed the war would bring anything positive.“Only blind people could think that a war started by Trump and Netanyahu would bring us freedom,” she says. “Didn’t we see Gaza? Lebanon? Syria? How could anyone think this would be different?”
Israeli and US strikes destroyed energy infrastructure, bridges, steel and petrochemical plants, a synagogue, hospitals, universities and schools, not to mention hundreds of businesses. “Maybe we should be relieved that the explosions have stopped,” Maryam says. “But how do you rebuild a country after this?”
Maryam is very critical of Iranians who supported the war. “Now some of them say they had nothing to do with it,” she says. “They are trying to distance themselves.”
But she does not accept that. “Didn’t they hear Trump saying Iranians welcomed the bombings?” she says. “I cannot forgive that.”
Abbas, 54, takes an even harsher view. He believes the war has effectively ended Reza Pahlavi’s political relevance. “Reza Pahlavi did everything he could to reach to power,” he said. “But he never condemned any of the US or Israeli attacks on Iran’s infrastructure.”
He points to the praise that the son of Iran’s last monarch heaped on Trump. “He tried every form of flattery you can imagine, hoping Trump would take him seriously,” Abbas says. “But in the end, when a deal was reached between Washington and Tehran, he was left more discredited than ever.”
He pauses, then adds: “I hope his supporters understand now: you can’t rely on someone who is willing to see his own people killed and his country destroyed just to get to power.”
A ceasefire filled with doubt
Niloufar, a 34-year-old resident of Tehran, can barely believe the strikes have stopped. For weeks, she has stayed inside her home, listening to the sound of jets and explosions.“When the ceasefire was announced, it felt unreal. Like something had lifted off my chest,” she says. “For the first time in 40 days, I was able to sleep peacefully.”
Yet uncertainty remains. There are still reports of sporadic explosions. Many are unsure whether the pause will hold. Israel killed scores of people in Lebanon on Wednesday, attacks that Iran said violated the ceasefire agreement.
Leila says she struggles to believe the attacks on her country have stopped. “They said there is a ceasefire,” she says. “So what are these explosions?” he lowers her voice. “What if it starts again?”
Others worry the ceasefire itself may be temporary – or even strategic. Mehdi, 31, says he does not trust either side. “I don’t trust the US or Israel,” he says. “Honestly, I don’t even trust them more than our own government.”
Negotiations were under way before the US and Israel launched their war. It’s unclear to Mehdi why these latest talks should be taken more seriously. “We were negotiating, then suddenly they attacked,” he says. “What if they negotiate again and then strike even harder?”
The disillusionment runs deep. Ali puts it simply: “Before the war, we used to say things couldn’t get worse. Now we know they can. We thought war would solve everything. Now we know it’s not that simple.”
Ali pauses, and his voice becomes quieter, but more pointed. “And we learnt something else, too: Reza Pahlavi is a stupid and ineffective politician who shows little real concern for the lives of those of us still living inside Iran.”
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Knoxville's Joker
Has No Life - Lives on TB
It makes more sense if America is actually the promised land in the bible. mississippi = euphrates, colorado = nile.
Hfcomms
EN66iq
Anti-semitism is losing a lot of it’s sting because its been overplayed just like the racism tag. Criticizing Israel’s government’s policy is no more anti-semitic than calling out the race baiters for their actions makes you racist.
Old Greek
Veteran Member
Kind of like the German people under Hitler and the SS. The government of Iran needs to be totally destroyed or the next generation will deal with it or die by it ( nukes ). Islam is the problem. The EU, now, is the same as Iran 15 years after their ( Iran's) revolution in 1979. The EU will die. The UK will be the first. Just my opinion!Some Jaded Shah Supporters Express Regret After Scale Of US Bombing On Iran Revealed
by Tyler Durden
Thursday, Apr 09, 2026 - 09:10 PM
Via Middle East Eye
The cessation of US-Israeli strikes has brought relief to people in Iran. For those among them who began the conflict supportive of the assault, it also came with a kind of realization. “I thought this was it,” says Leila, 25. “I thought the Islamic Republic was finally coming to an end.”
Leila, who like all Iranians Middle East Eye spoke to is identified using a pseudonym to protect her own safety, says she believed the strikes on her country would be short and decisive – that they would lead to political change. “I even thought the US and Israel had already agreed with Reza Pahlavi about Iran’s future,” she said. “I was wrong.”
Leila is not alone. In the early days of the conflict, some Iranian opponents of the ruling establishment saw Donald Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu as potential forces for change, even as unlikely allies. But as the war dragged on, and the scale of destruction became clearer, those expectations faded dramatically.
“Why did they hit bridges?” Leila asks. “Why destroy railway lines? Why target oil depots?” She shakes her head. “How does that help change a government?”
In January, at the height of massive anti-establishment protests in Iran and the authorities’ crackdown, Trump took to social media to tell demonstrators that help was on its way. But last Tuesday, he told Iran: “A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again”, before backing down and agreeing a ceasefire.
For anti-establishment Iranians like Leila, the contrast was shocking. “In the span of just two months, we went from ‘help is on the way’ to threats about the destruction of Iranian civilization,” she says. For Leila, the consequences were not only political, but personal. “I lost friends over this,” she says.
She recalls arguments with people who warned her not to trust foreign powers. “They told me Trump and Netanyahu were no better,” she said. “But I didn’t listen. I accused them of supporting the government.”
Some of those friendships have not recovered. “Now I feel like everything I believed in just collapsed,” she says.
'We thought it would be quick'
Ali, 29, had similar expectations. He says that after the January protests he came to believe that change could only come through force. The demonstrations began in response to rising inflation and spread into nationwide, anti-establishment protests.
The government says that 3,117 people were killed – including protesters, security forces and bystanders. The US-based human rights organisation Human Rights Activists News Agency estimates at least 7,015 deaths.
“We thought war would finish everything,” Ali says. Instead, it destroyed his family home. “Our house was flattened,” he says. “We were lucky to survive. But now we have nowhere to go.”
Ali says he believed claims that the strikes would be precise. “They said they would target specific people and military sites. We thought their technology was advanced enough to avoid civilians,” he says. “Maybe when they realised they couldn’t change the system, they started hitting everything,” he adds. “Or maybe I was just naive.”
Those who never believed
Not all anti-establishment Iranians shared that early optimism. Maryam, 47, says she never believed the war would bring anything positive.
“Only blind people could think that a war started by Trump and Netanyahu would bring us freedom,” she says. “Didn’t we see Gaza? Lebanon? Syria? How could anyone think this would be different?”
Israeli and US strikes destroyed energy infrastructure, bridges, steel and petrochemical plants, a synagogue, hospitals, universities and schools, not to mention hundreds of businesses. “Maybe we should be relieved that the explosions have stopped,” Maryam says. “But how do you rebuild a country after this?”
Maryam is very critical of Iranians who supported the war. “Now some of them say they had nothing to do with it,” she says. “They are trying to distance themselves.”
But she does not accept that. “Didn’t they hear Trump saying Iranians welcomed the bombings?” she says. “I cannot forgive that.”
Abbas, 54, takes an even harsher view. He believes the war has effectively ended Reza Pahlavi’s political relevance. “Reza Pahlavi did everything he could to reach to power,” he said. “But he never condemned any of the US or Israeli attacks on Iran’s infrastructure.”
He points to the praise that the son of Iran’s last monarch heaped on Trump. “He tried every form of flattery you can imagine, hoping Trump would take him seriously,” Abbas says. “But in the end, when a deal was reached between Washington and Tehran, he was left more discredited than ever.”
He pauses, then adds: “I hope his supporters understand now: you can’t rely on someone who is willing to see his own people killed and his country destroyed just to get to power.”
A ceasefire filled with doubt
Niloufar, a 34-year-old resident of Tehran, can barely believe the strikes have stopped. For weeks, she has stayed inside her home, listening to the sound of jets and explosions.
“When the ceasefire was announced, it felt unreal. Like something had lifted off my chest,” she says. “For the first time in 40 days, I was able to sleep peacefully.”
Yet uncertainty remains. There are still reports of sporadic explosions. Many are unsure whether the pause will hold. Israel killed scores of people in Lebanon on Wednesday, attacks that Iran said violated the ceasefire agreement.
Leila says she struggles to believe the attacks on her country have stopped. “They said there is a ceasefire,” she says. “So what are these explosions?” he lowers her voice. “What if it starts again?”
Others worry the ceasefire itself may be temporary – or even strategic. Mehdi, 31, says he does not trust either side. “I don’t trust the US or Israel,” he says. “Honestly, I don’t even trust them more than our own government.”
Negotiations were under way before the US and Israel launched their war. It’s unclear to Mehdi why these latest talks should be taken more seriously. “We were negotiating, then suddenly they attacked,” he says. “What if they negotiate again and then strike even harder?”
The disillusionment runs deep. Ali puts it simply: “Before the war, we used to say things couldn’t get worse. Now we know they can. We thought war would solve everything. Now we know it’s not that simple.”
Ali pauses, and his voice becomes quieter, but more pointed. “And we learnt something else, too: Reza Pahlavi is a stupid and ineffective politician who shows little real concern for the lives of those of us still living inside Iran.”
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vector7
Dot Collector
Wild to watch CNBC embarrass Pete Buttigieg when he tries to criticize Trump for gas prices and inflation…
They remind him that Biden was much worse.
RT 1min
View: https://twitter.com/TimRunsHisMouth/status/2042666853441409493
Here's a look back at how the Biden Administration handled inflation on the way to a 40 year high.
Remember this Pete?
RT 1min
View: https://twitter.com/mazemoore/status/2042683665549828134
They remind him that Biden was much worse.
RT 1min
View: https://twitter.com/TimRunsHisMouth/status/2042666853441409493
Here's a look back at how the Biden Administration handled inflation on the way to a 40 year high.
Remember this Pete?
RT 1min
View: https://twitter.com/mazemoore/status/2042683665549828134
von Koehler
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From a Google search, they claim that Israel has received an inflation adjusted $300 billion from America.
Hfcomms
EN66iq
Was that the 300 billion that was supposed to be used towards fixing our roads, bridges and crumbling electrical grid? Even in this day of age that is a lot of money.
Sacajawea
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So.... no concrete news from Pakistan. Is that a good thing? A "no news is good news" situation? It doesn't even sound like anyone is talking to Vance, except Pakistan... which is kinda idiotic and juvenile, don't you think? Convinces me a little more, that this just a tactical pause to rest & rearm on both sides.
Which is an Iranian win. Time is on their side.
library lady
Veteran Member
"... and since the ceasefire began President Trump wants to see it fully open, and JD Vance is negotiating RIGHT NOW
library lady
Veteran Member
"...A better peace here is not hard to define. It means an Islamic Regime in Iran that is not on the threshold of a nuclear weapon. It means a regime that cannot use control of international waterways as a tool of coercion. It means a regime that is not building missiles capable of reaching Europe or the United States, missiles to attack its neighbors or to shield its nuclear weapons pursuit. And it means a regime that is no longer funding, building, and sustaining proxy terror armies in Lebanon, Gaza, Yemen, and Iraq.
If those conditions are not met, then whatever agreement comes out of negotiations is temporary.
Many people only focus on stopping the fighting. That is not the same as achieving the purpose of the war. The real measure is whether Iran’s behavior changes when the war is over.
If the capabilities remain, the intent will follow. And if both remain, the conflict will start again later.
Ending the war is not the objective. Ending it on terms that will hold is.
If those conditions are not met, then whatever agreement comes out of negotiations is temporary.
Many people only focus on stopping the fighting. That is not the same as achieving the purpose of the war. The real measure is whether Iran’s behavior changes when the war is over.
If the capabilities remain, the intent will follow. And if both remain, the conflict will start again later.
Ending the war is not the objective. Ending it on terms that will hold is.
Hognutz
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R/T 35sec
View: https://twitter.com/fenixammunition/status/2043146533827125687?s=61
Two more weeks to slow the spread.
View: https://twitter.com/fenixammunition/status/2043146533827125687?s=61
Two more weeks to slow the spread.
Hognutz
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View: https://twitter.com/rdd147/status/2043086989919162573?s=61
Turkey now calling Netanyahu Adolf Hitler and announcing criminal charges.
Situation is going great.
Turkey now calling Netanyahu Adolf Hitler and announcing criminal charges.
Situation is going great.
King Samson
I'm Here
Still think so?
absolutely.
TheHippie
Veteran Member
Apparently this shit sandwich wasn't tasty enough....
TURKEY: "IF THE WAR DRAGS ON AND PAKISTAN FAILS TO ACHIEVE PEACE, IT IS OUR DUTY TO ATTACK ISRAEL."
View: http://twitter.com/Aesalerte/status/2043066237802930637?s=20
rt 0:30
Turkish President Erdogan: "Isn’t introducing the death penalty only for Palestinian prisoners essentially apartheid?
Is there, in essence, any real difference between Hitler’s and Israeli's policy?"
View: http://twitter.com/_InfoGram_/status/2042825235897159953?s=20
rt 0:53
Buick Electra
Member of the Early Bird Club
Look how DESPERATE the Iranian people are!!! I am praying for them!
Now that Trump has shown Vance the error of his ways in trying to make a deal with Satan's henchmen, maybe he'll now bring the adults into the room, (Rubio, Hegseth, Caine), and do what needs to be done because I don't think he'll be doing any 'Ukraine 2,' which is what the cabal wants.
View: https://twitter.com/siaxares/status/2043194534142656905
Now that Trump has shown Vance the error of his ways in trying to make a deal with Satan's henchmen, maybe he'll now bring the adults into the room, (Rubio, Hegseth, Caine), and do what needs to be done because I don't think he'll be doing any 'Ukraine 2,' which is what the cabal wants.
View: https://twitter.com/siaxares/status/2043194534142656905
Buick Electra
Member of the Early Bird Club
I've never been a Vance fan. I'm hoping Rubio for our next POTUS.
Aside from the first post, it IS interesting to see what the Persians think.
View: https://twitter.com/Medinfo_X/status/2043146149952147751
Aside from the first post, it IS interesting to see what the Persians think.
View: https://twitter.com/Medinfo_X/status/2043146149952147751
Buick Electra
Member of the Early Bird Club
auxman
Deus vult...
100% agree!!
Cascadians
Leska Emerald Adams
Strange all the Iranian planes going to Pakistan. I wonder if the entire Iran "leadership" is now in Pakistan getting asylum to ride out the next wave of bombings.
And now Pakistan has to bomb Iran because of its pact with Saudi Arabia.
Pakistan is in a real pickle. Pakistan is Jihaters with Nukes.
Scary.
And now Pakistan has to bomb Iran because of its pact with Saudi Arabia.
Pakistan is in a real pickle. Pakistan is Jihaters with Nukes.
Scary.
momma_soapmaker
Warrior Woman
Hognutz
TB Fanatic
R/T 30sec
View: https://twitter.com/jimfergusonuk/status/2043237424277406078?s=61
ONE MOVE FROM TURKEY — AND THIS BECOMES A GLOBAL WAR
Erdoğan’s rhetoric is escalating fast— but behind the scenes, Turkey is still holding back.
For now.
Let’s be clear:
Turkey is NATO. Turkey is strategic. Turkey is pivotal.
If it enters this war—
Everything changes.
This stops being regional.
It becomes a multi-front conflict stretching from the Middle East to Europe’s doorstep.
Energy routes collapse. Alliances are tested. Escalation becomes uncontrollable.
Right now—
Turkey is balancing. Watching. Waiting.
But the danger isn’t what’s happening—
It’s how close everything is to tipping.
Because it won’t take much.
One strike. One mistake. One miscalculation.
And the line is crossed.
The question is no longer if tensions rise—
It’s who gets pulled in next.
View: https://twitter.com/jimfergusonuk/status/2043237424277406078?s=61
ONE MOVE FROM TURKEY — AND THIS BECOMES A GLOBAL WAR
Erdoğan’s rhetoric is escalating fast— but behind the scenes, Turkey is still holding back.
For now.
Let’s be clear:
Turkey is NATO. Turkey is strategic. Turkey is pivotal.
If it enters this war—
Everything changes.
This stops being regional.
It becomes a multi-front conflict stretching from the Middle East to Europe’s doorstep.
Energy routes collapse. Alliances are tested. Escalation becomes uncontrollable.
Right now—
Turkey is balancing. Watching. Waiting.
But the danger isn’t what’s happening—
It’s how close everything is to tipping.
Because it won’t take much.
One strike. One mistake. One miscalculation.
And the line is crossed.
The question is no longer if tensions rise—
It’s who gets pulled in next.
Hognutz
TB Fanatic
R/T 1:05
View: https://twitter.com/ounkaonx/status/2043166472504332773?s=61
Alex jones:
“Well, the war is back on with Iran like I said it would happen three days ago.
Israel is so happy. BlackRock is so happy right now. The Strait of Hormuz is gonna stay closed. The recovery is gonna fail, and they're gonna get what they want. This is COVID 2.0.
We're off to the races with ground troops in the Strait of Hormuz and total war.
I wish a foreign power wasn't running America, but Israel is. That's just the facts”
View: https://twitter.com/ounkaonx/status/2043166472504332773?s=61
Alex jones:
“Well, the war is back on with Iran like I said it would happen three days ago.
Israel is so happy. BlackRock is so happy right now. The Strait of Hormuz is gonna stay closed. The recovery is gonna fail, and they're gonna get what they want. This is COVID 2.0.
We're off to the races with ground troops in the Strait of Hormuz and total war.
I wish a foreign power wasn't running America, but Israel is. That's just the facts”
Hognutz
TB Fanatic
View: https://twitter.com/naiivememe/status/2043154341092286658?s=61
US failed to reach a deal with Iran
The stock market waiting to open on Monday
US failed to reach a deal with Iran
The stock market waiting to open on Monday