Volcano Update 2 - Additional vents opening -Volcano on La Palma island in the Canary Islands has erupted

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Two new volcanoes on LaPalma

I have news reports of two new volcanoes opening up on LaPalma. One is from the Hal Turner site and the one pasted below is from NY Prepper. I was a little hesitant to report on these as Hal Turner has something of a "woo" reputation and I know very little about NY Prepper.

Having qualified this post with that observation, I will note that I've felt that there is something "off" with the reportage of this volcano. I've noted that there is very little official reporting and commentary on LaPalma and what there is - IMHO - leaves a misdirection taste in my mouth. I did speak with my geologist friend (after the reports of the second volcano, but before the reports of the third) about this and he felt that the appearance of the second volcano was "serious." He said that if he was on that island, he would have left "yesterday". Additionally, he wasn't surprised that government sources are being less than forthcoming; you know, the whole panicking the herd thing.

He agreed that the likelihood of an island collapse is unlikely, but said that it wasn't impossible. He further said that the appearance of the second volcano may increase the odds of a collapse, but wasn't willing to quantify the possibility. Again, I haven't spoken with him since the reports of the third volcano, though I do have a call in to him. I'll let you know what he says when I hear back from him.

Here's the vid from NY Prepper:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeRwCPjzZfM


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Doc1 said:
Two new volcanoes on LaPalma

I have news reports of two new volcanoes opening up on LaPalma. One is from the Hal Turner site and the one pasted below is from NY Prepper. I was a little hesitant to report on these as Hal Turner has something of a "woo" reputation and I know very little about NY Prepper.

Having qualified this post with that observation, I will note that I've felt that there is something "off" with the reportage of this volcano. I've noted that there is very little official reporting and commentary on LaPalma and what there is - IMHO - leaves a misdirection taste in my mouth. I did speak with my geologist friend (after the reports of the second volcano, but before the reports of the third) about this and he felt that the appearance of the second volcano was "serious." He said that if he was on that island, he would have left "yesterday". Additionally, he wasn't surprised that government sources are being less than forthcoming; you know, the whole panicking the herd thing.

He agreed that the likelihood of an island collapse is unlikely, but said that it wasn't impossible. He further said that the appearance of the second volcano may increase the odds of a collapse, but wasn't willing to quantify the possibility. Again, I haven't spoken with him since the reports of the third volcano, though I do have a call in to him. I'll let you know what he says when I hear back from him.

Here's the vid from NY Prepper:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeRwCPjzZfM


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Thank you for sharing!
 
Krayola

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Doc1 said:
He agreed that the likelihood of an island collapse is unlikely, but said that it wasn't impossible.
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This is interesting because didn't he tell you before that he thought there was a 50/50 chance it could drop into the ocean? I wonder what made him change his mind.
 
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Doc1 said:
Two new volcanoes on LaPalma

I have news reports of two new volcanoes opening up on LaPalma. One is from the Hal Turner site and the one pasted below is from NY Prepper. I was a little hesitant to report on these as Hal Turner has something of a "woo" reputation and I know very little about NY Prepper.

Having qualified this post with that observation, I will note that I've felt that there is something "off" with the reportage of this volcano. I've noted that there is very little official reporting and commentary on LaPalma and what there is - IMHO - leaves a misdirection taste in my mouth. I did speak with my geologist friend (after the reports of the second volcano, but before the reports of the third) about this and he felt that the appearance of the second volcano was "serious." He said that if he was on that island, he would have left "yesterday". Additionally, he wasn't surprised that government sources are being less than forthcoming; you know, the whole panicking the herd thing.

He agreed that the likelihood of an island collapse is unlikely, but said that it wasn't impossible. He further said that the appearance of the second volcano may increase the odds of a collapse, but wasn't willing to quantify the possibility. Again, I haven't spoken with him since the reports of the third volcano, though I do have a call in to him. I'll let you know what he says when I hear back from him.

Here's the vid from NY Prepper:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeRwCPjzZfM


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I do not even understand why Turner is allowed to be quoted here. He should be on the proscribed list. This is the second pile of bullshit doom that he has peddled in the last week. Every single thing that he says is doom without any facts. He's so stupid be doesn't even believe hitler killed 6 million people.
 
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Krayola said:
This is interesting because didn't he tell you before that he thought there was a 50/50 chance it could drop into the ocean? I wonder what made him change his mind.
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I don't know why he changed his outlook somewhat. In conversations, he's repeatedly stated that geologists don't really have a good handle on volcano dynamics and I tend to push him for answers and probabilities. As I've mentioned previously, though he's a degreed geologist, volcanoes are not his specialty. I would imagine that, as in most professions, the conservative outlook is the one usually adopted.

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Doc1 said:
... he's repeatedly stated that geologists don't really have a good handle on volcano dynamics ...
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Odd as it may sound, from what I understand of them volcanoes can be very individualistic (that is, there's no one-size-fits-all model). For example, I think historically all the Cascade Mountain volcanoes in the PNW have acted very differently from each other. More specifically, as far as I know Mount St. Helens has maybe two or three counterparts (and that may be overcounting them) elsewhere in the world, so it's highly unlikely you can point to some random new volcanic activity and say with any confidence that it will behave just like Mount St. Helens did in 1980 -- if you do predict that type of eruption for every new volcanic activity then you're almost certainly going to be wrong. Thinking all volcanoes are the same is probably why in general so many people get so many volcano predictions flat out wrong.
 
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Odd as it may sound, from what I understand of them volcanoes can be very individualistic (that is, there's no one-size-fits-all model). For example, I think historically all the Cascade Mountain volcanoes in the PNW have acted very differently from each other. More specifically, as far as I know Mount St. Helens has maybe two or three counterparts (and that may be overcounting them) elsewhere in the world, so it's highly unlikely you can point to some random new volcanic activity and say with any confidence that it will behave just like Mount St. Helens did in 1980 -- if you do predict that type of eruption for every new volcanic activity then you're almost certainly going to be wrong. Thinking all volcanoes are the same is probably why in general so many people get so many volcano predictions flat out wrong.
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And 5his is why you have volcanologists that specialize in only one or two volcanoes.
 
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packyderms_wife said:
And 5his is why you have volcanologists that specialize in only one or two volcanoes.
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What it comes down to is that a lot of volcanoes can only be compared to themselves. Unless you're speaking about very broad generalities, you simply can't say such-and-so happened on Kīlauea therefore it must happen on La Palma (or vice-versa). Or as I read once in a book (more-or-less), "Confidence is what you feel when you don't really understand the situation."
 
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Bushcraft Bear and Dutchsince have BOTH confirmed that Hal Turner is on major bullshit. There is ONE volcano erupting on La Palma not THREE. As is his usual condition, Turner has his head up his anus.
 
Lilbitsnana

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just yesterday they were talking about how the volcano was quieter and seems to be winding down.

A strong EQ a few hours ago. Bushcraft and IGN reported it as a 5.4, but what I found elsewhere shows it as a 4.8 or a 4.6.

Just had another 4.4 a little bit ago.


BushcraftBear

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Earthquake ALERT!!! A strong one!







BushcraftBear

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5.4 Magnitude. New Rekord.
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IGN Sismología

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#terremoto 10/11/2021 11:10:06UTC NE FUENCALIENTE DE LA PALMA_IL mag=5.4 prof=42km cálculo provisional Instituto Geográfico Nacional - Ministerio de Fomento



Nov 10, 2021 1:23 pm (GMT +0) (Nov 10, 2021 13:23 GMT)
54 minutes ago		4.4
37 km		La Palma, 14 km southeast of Los Llanos de Aridane, Spain
I FELT IT - 12 reports

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Nov 10, 2021 11:10 am (GMT +0) (Nov 10, 2021 11:10 GMT)
3 hours 8 minutes ago		4.8
34 km		La Palma, 13 km southeast of Los Llanos de Aridane, Spain
 
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Does it make since that with all the lava that has erupted that there is empty chambers that awaits stronger pressured chambers to break thru cooler materials. Then starting a reheating of the volcano.
 
Lilbitsnana

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They had a 5.0 early this morning their time (last night our time).

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Bushcraft Bear
A 5.0 magnitude earthquake wakes me up! Volcanic eruption on La Palma. Must be more vigilant again!


Earthquake warning! Currently HIGHEST NUMBER AND STRENGTH since the beginning of volcanic eruption

 
Lilbitsnana

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BuffaloJo said:
I know this is off topic but what are those white buildings visible in most every picture of this island?
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If it is a building, it is a house, church, business or hotel.

The other white things are usually crop covers, but I am not exactly sure what you are specifically referring to.
 
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BushcraftBear
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A TORNADO close to the volcano cone. The volcano is always good for a surprise!
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El Time

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El volcán crea un pequeño TORNADO en la base de su cono, visible a kilómetros de distancia. Las altas temperaturas generadas por la lava y la meteorología cambiante han propiciado la creación de este tornado de cenizas y polvo en la zona de Las Manchas. #VolcandeLaPalma

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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1460267053886042117
 
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