GOV/MIL (Unconfirmed) USS Abraham Lincoln Rocked By Deadly Clash Amid Iran: 7 US Navy Personnel "KILLED, SEVERAL HURT"

The unnamed sailor's wife reportedly told MS Now that her husband jumped from the ship in a suicide attempt on Aug. 3, and is now accused of violating the articles of the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ). Military.com contacted the Navy for comment.
not to say that 250 days without liberty isn't tuff - BUT - dude HAS to be a real looser . . . anybody who's been under weigh KNOWS that if you're serious about offing yourself by heading over the side you'll go over smack in the middle of the fantail so the screws can have their way with you . . .
 
screw that - he should be separated immediately - other than honorably discharged

I'm guessing part of that is for the "encouragement" of the rest of the crew.

The rest IMHO is "box checking". The degree to which the sailor in question has medical/mental issues isn't going to get addressed until he's state side and the full machine is in play.

Considering how high profile this case now is, HIPPA or not, I suspect the PTB will make it "go away" as soon as practical while using the "example value" to try to keep down "copy catting" as much as possible.

As it is, the command staff on the ship are just as likely going to be "reviewed" regarding the whole mess. It's too high profile now.
 
The everyday E3 young Seaman is currently hitting Thailand with about $22,000 in pay. If you have ever done time at sea you know what that means.;)
I have no idea, being a grunt. But can I tell you how important that leave you get once a year is? Especially if you were like me. 1/2 pay to the stateside bank, 1/2 pay to my pocket for cigs, booze, and other necessities.
 
They have to be, as procedure.

Of course, it's likely to be a sham review, just to say it was done.

Yup. That being said, the USNs track record for handling these things isn't all that spectacular. The extreme cases of FUBAR that come to mind include "Tail Hook", the Iowa turret explosion and Port Chicago.

From the "crew side" such things as the LAN/Satellite link set up on an LCS that made the news a few years ago shows the "two way street" potential is always there.

ETA: And the other services aren't immune either to issues on either side of the rank ladder. And all of them get worse once the MSM get ahold of it and run with either a fraction of the info and or their own spin.

Time will always eventually tell.
 
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Yup. That being said, the USNs track record for handling these things isn't all that spectacular. The extreme cases of FUBAR that come to mind include "Tail Hook", the Iowa turret explosion and Port Chicago.

From the "crew side" such things as the LAN/Satellite link set up on an LCS that made the news a few years ago shows the "two way street" potential is always there.

ETA: And the other services aren't immune either to issues on either side of the rank ladder. And all of them get worse once the MSM get ahold of it and run with either a fraction of the info and or their own spin.

Time will always eventually tell.
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Until you've lived on the coast or worked offshore, you really don't grasp how harsh a marine environment is.

Salt air, not seawater exposure, will start rusting a refrigerator in the bait room in a matter of months. Every scratch becomes a rust line.

Any steel that isn't galvanized will start scaling in weeks.

The only defense is cleaning and painting...frequently.


All that rust, above the waterline, it's gonna happen quicker than you think. It's also superficial.

It's kinda hard to get down there for scraping and painting when the ship is underway.
 
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The Lincoln is pulling into a Thia port. I grabbed these photos from the article. Is this ‘normal’? It looks like a rust bucket.
It means they have been on Station a long time launching and not chipping and painting. Normal for salt water to take a toll. It will buff right out.
 
This is a 2024 picture.

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Monthly Food Consumption of an Aircraft Carrier​

A U.S. aircraft carrier — such as a Nimitz‑class or Ford‑class — can carry and consume hundreds of tons of food per month during a deployment.

Daily consumption

  • Crew size: ~5,000 personnel
  • Meals served: ~18,000–20,000 meals/day
  • Food per sailor/day: ~3–4 lbs
  • Daily total: ~15,000–20,000 lbs (~10–10.5 tons) of food The National Interest
Monthly total

  • At ~15,000 lbs/day × 30 days = ~450,000 lbs (~225 tons) of food per month The National Interest.
  • In practice, with snacks, special meals, and resupply, carriers can use well over 1 million dollars worth of food per month The Takeout.
Breakdown of typical daily use

  • Meat: 1,600 lbs/day (beef, chicken, pork)
  • Fresh produce: 350 lbs/day (lettuce, fruits, vegetables)
  • Milk: 1,000+ gallons/day
  • Coffee: 800+ gallons/day
  • Bread: thousands of loaves/week
  • Cereal: 30 cases/day
  • Ice cream: thousands of gallons per deployment
Storage and resupply
Carriers often stock over 100,000 lbs of food at the start of a deployment LinkedInLinkedIn and are resupplied every 7–10 days at sea

Summary
A deployed aircraft carrier can consume roughly 200–300+ tons of food per month, with daily totals in the tens of thousands of pounds, making it one of the largest continuous food service operations in the world.
 
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Monthly Food Consumption of an Aircraft Carrier​

A U.S. aircraft carrier — such as a Nimitz‑class or Ford‑class — can carry and consume hundreds of tons of food per month during a deployment.

Daily consumption

  • Crew size: ~5,000 personnel
  • Meals served: ~18,000–20,000 meals/day
  • Food per sailor/day: ~3–4 lbs
  • Daily total: ~15,000–20,000 lbs (~10–10.5 tons) of food The National Interest
Monthly total

  • At ~15,000 lbs/day × 30 days = ~450,000 lbs (~225 tons) of food per month The National Interest.
  • In practice, with snacks, special meals, and resupply, carriers can use well over 1 million dollars worth of food per month The Takeout.
Breakdown of typical daily use

  • Meat: 1,600 lbs/day (beef, chicken, pork)
  • Fresh produce: 350 lbs/day (lettuce, fruits, vegetables)
  • Milk: 1,000+ gallons/day
  • Coffee: 800+ gallons/day
  • Bread: thousands of loaves/week
  • Cereal: 30 cases/day
  • Ice cream: thousands of gallons per deployment
Storage and resupply
Carriers often stock over 100,000 lbs of food at the start of a deployment LinkedInLinkedIn and are resupplied every 7–10 days at sea

Summary
A deployed aircraft carrier can consume roughly 200–300+ tons of food per month, with daily totals in the tens of thousands of pounds, making it one of the largest continuous food service operations in the world.
And don't forget that if'n there're any Marines on a cruise, those Jarheads will require cases of crayons as snacks/treats. I think USMC considers crayons to be on the same level that dogs view Milkbones.
And yes I can pick on Uncle Sam's Misguided Children 'cause my Daddy did 12 years in the Corps.
 
Call mom and dad... tell them junior is on the way home...

Oh, and tell them to make sure the prescription for antibiotics is ready...too...

US Aircraft Carrier Departs Thailand after Port Call​

Thousands of US sailors aboard an aircraft carrier departed from Thailand on Sunday, AFP journalists said, concluding its first port call following reports of deteriorating living conditions on board after nine months at sea.

The 5,000-strong crew of the USS Abraham Lincoln docked just north of the resort town of Pattaya, near Bangkok, on Wednesday for five days of rest and recreation after a lengthy Middle East deployment.

Amid Thailand's tourism low season, their arrival raised hopes for businesses in Pattaya, a city known for its beaches and nightlife -- as well as its seedy reputation as a hub for sex tourism.

The Lincoln departed from the port of Laem Chabang, a half-hour drive from Pattaya, at around 11:00 am (0400 GMT), AFP journalists saw.

Security was stepped up in Pattaya during the visit, with authorities cracking down on sex workers ahead of the sailors' arrival -- although the mayor denied it was linked.

- 'Everything went fine' -

Despite concerns about possible trouble, local police said Sunday that the port call ended largely without incident.

"Everything went fine," Pattaya police chief Anek Srathongyoo told AFP.

"There were no arrests or arguments except on the first day when Americans had an argument among themselves," he said.

The US Navy sent two sailors back to the Lincoln after a drunken altercation in the early hours of Thursday near Pattaya's nightlife hotspot Walking Street, the police chief said earlier.

He had described the "small scuffle" as "trivial" and said local residents only called police to prevent the dispute from escalating.

Last month, US Democratic lawmakers called for an investigation into conditions on the Lincoln following reports of food shortages, broken plumbing and mental health crises.

President Donald Trump dismissed the concerns, which have fuelled criticism of his dragging war on Iran, although the Lincoln was replaced in the Middle East by the USS George Washington.

The enlisted Americans were estimated to have spent up to 100 million baht ($3 million) during their visit, Pattaya Mayor Poramase Ngampiches said on Sunday.

In addition, the city benefitted from "selling other supplies such as tootpaste to the ship worth millions of baht (tens of thousands of dollars)", Poramase told AFP.

Media reports said sailors on the Lincoln had gone without basic toiletries, including toothpaste, deodorant and soap, at points during their deployment.

Many of the sailors and Marines spent their time on Thailand's coast shopping and visiting tourism sites, Poramase said.

"It shows that they are missing their families and want to buy some souvenirs for them," he said.

 
Being underway for that long deployment is difficult, no doubt, but no one on that ship should have gone without common hygiene supplies or decent food for any reason.
But all we have at this point, is "media reports". Are they credible?

Has anyone seen an actual interview by a sailor that stated this? With 5000 on board, you would think a few have called home, and reported the conditions.

I haven't seen any of those first-hand reports.
 
But all we have at this point, is "media reports". Are they credible?

Has anyone seen an actual interview by a sailor that stated this? With 5000 on board, you would think a few have called home, and reported the conditions.

I haven't seen any of those first-hand reports.
That is *supposedly* where the original reports came from. Families claiming their sailor had called/written and it was awful, terrible, etc, etc...

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The Lincoln is pulling into a Thia port. I grabbed these photos from the article. Is this ‘normal’? It looks like a rust bucket.
It definitely looks like it has been maintained poorly. I think the constant missions with too few ships to cover the whole world forced "delayed maintenance".

Well, now that we got that covered, where shall we start another war?
 
Calm down. It says "media reports"... Remember, this whole story started with FALSE reports by the LIBERAL media, that sailors died. It's just more FAKE reporting by the TDS media.
How much news is our government giving us? None. We get happy stories of nonsense from the entire Trump administration. They are more fake than the fake news. Just looking at the pictures of the ship tells a whole lot of the story. When you don't have time to clean and paint the ship, there is something badly wrong.
 
It definitely looks like it has been maintained poorly. I think the constant missions with too few ships to cover the whole world forced "delayed maintenance".

Just looking at the pictures of the ship tells a whole lot of the story. When you don't have time to clean and paint the ship, there is something badly wrong.
What part of 24/7 combat operations don't you understand, and they don't have free down time to spend on maintenance?
 
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