GOV/MIL (Unconfirmed) USS Abraham Lincoln Rocked By Deadly Clash Amid Iran: 7 US Navy Personnel "KILLED, SEVERAL HURT"
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Groucho
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I'd have to say the captain will be replaced, maybe court martialed, and/or retired. Flag officers will be quietly pushed aside and out. This was a charlie foxtrot from the get go. No apparent plans for rotating supply. No apparent plans for rotating ships in a timely manner. Make me question Hegseth's ability to run a large organization. He had to have known about this situation before he saw it on the snooze. If he didn't, his immediate subordinates are going to be looking for jobs. Where was the Sec. of the Navy?
Ahhh never mind. It's all a CF. The whole effing thing.
Ahhh never mind. It's all a CF. The whole effing thing.
subnet
Boot
Due to the globohomo, communist, climate cult, leftie authoritarian trash types.
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One thing not mentioned so far, at least as far as I have seen is this. There is not one military person, either active duty or vet who will disagree with me when I say it is and has been since time immemorial the service members right to bi*ch and complain. You can't stop them, nor should you try to, you'll lose. It doesn't matter! Jarhead, Grunt, Swab Jockey or Flyboy, they are all going to be pissed about something and won't hesitate to let you know about it. We ALL have stories about everything. I've never mentioned the green scrambled eggs, for example, because they don't compare with C-Rats.
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Ragnarok
On and On, South of Heaven
Ragnarok
On and On, South of Heaven
Wildweasel
F-4 Phantoms Phorever
At least those nice, elevated 1000-man dorms have shaded areas for drill underneath. Some of us got to play on those asphalt pavement, 5-acre training pads. Talk about toasty places on sunny days!
ssbn642blue
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After 60 days, the eggs we stored in the torpedo room would turn green, we ate them while reading a Dr. Seuss book. Really, they didn't taste any different. True story, well not about the book.
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We’d been in the field for about three weeks, surviving on C’s. It got cold and white and higher decided to improve things, everyone got a hot breakfast. By the time the chow truck reached our squad, the eggs in that Merrimack can with the aluminum containers, the eggs were green. But because they were above the outside temperature were considered warm. The bacon had congealed grease on it. But at least the coffee had a little steam coming off of it.
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ssbn642blue
Veteran Member
Thank you for what you did. And that's for ALL the Vets here. I did 10 years, some of it sucked, some times it didn't. But we all did our Sh&t.
vector7
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This Marine just said what almost nobody else will about the USS Abraham Lincoln:
“They’ve been out to sea for about 250 days… this is the job.”
This guy isn’t minimizing how hard it is. He’s pointing out the selective outrage and media sensationalism.
He served two Westpacs. He knows ship life. And he still picks ship 10 out of 10 over being in country.
Then he drops the real context the media never mentions:
Korea — freezing, living on Tootsie Rolls.
Vietnam — 240 days of jungle combat, 60-80 lb packs, no A/C.
Peleliu 1944 — solid coral, 115°, water in contaminated oil drums.
Fallujah 2004 — 48-72 hour clearance cycles, stripped MREs, 100-125° heat, zero sleep.
Nobody cried then. Now the same media that pushed fake mess-hall photos with concrete cinder blocks (walls that don’t even exist on a Navy ship) is acting like 250 days at sea is unprecedented suffering.
Those photos were never from the Lincoln.
They were used to sell a lie.
Bull’s message is simple: keep your head up, keep PTing, and stop pretending this is somehow unique.
He’s right. And he doesn’t care if you cancel him for saying it.
RT 3min
View: https://twitter.com/ShawnAgain2/status/2089476110694101292
“They’ve been out to sea for about 250 days… this is the job.”
This guy isn’t minimizing how hard it is. He’s pointing out the selective outrage and media sensationalism.
He served two Westpacs. He knows ship life. And he still picks ship 10 out of 10 over being in country.
Then he drops the real context the media never mentions:
Korea — freezing, living on Tootsie Rolls.
Vietnam — 240 days of jungle combat, 60-80 lb packs, no A/C.
Peleliu 1944 — solid coral, 115°, water in contaminated oil drums.
Fallujah 2004 — 48-72 hour clearance cycles, stripped MREs, 100-125° heat, zero sleep.
Nobody cried then. Now the same media that pushed fake mess-hall photos with concrete cinder blocks (walls that don’t even exist on a Navy ship) is acting like 250 days at sea is unprecedented suffering.
Those photos were never from the Lincoln.
They were used to sell a lie.
Bull’s message is simple: keep your head up, keep PTing, and stop pretending this is somehow unique.
He’s right. And he doesn’t care if you cancel him for saying it.
RT 3min
View: https://twitter.com/ShawnAgain2/status/2089476110694101292
bracketquant
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When Congress went into recess, Sen. Gillibrand should have visited the Lincoln, in order to get a first hand account of what is going on. Serving on the Senate Armed Services and Intelligence Committees, any demanded accountability by her should begin with her.I know, let's move some of these deranged Liberal news reporter on the ship, for 8 months, take away their cell phones, and put them to work. How do you think they would survive?
(Article from CNBC, a wing of Liberal NBC)
Top U.S. commander acknowledges mental health issues on USS Lincoln
U.S. Central Command Commander Adm. Brad Cooper on Sunday acknowledged mental health challenges aboard the USS Lincoln after reports that a sailor jumped overboard amid the aircraft carrier’s long Middle East deployment.
“Here’s an important fact: Of the U.S. Navy’s 11 active aircraft carriers, the Lincoln currently has among the lowest number of cases related to mental health,” Cooper said in a statement posted to X following his visit to the ship on Saturday. “This doesn’t mean that all is perfect. Find any of the nearly 4 million Navy veterans in America today and they will likely tell you that service at sea for long periods isn’t for everyone.”
Cooper’s visit and statement follow reports of widespread morale and mental health issues aboard the Lincoln, which has been deployed for more than eight months. The Navy Times reported last week that several sailors had attempted to go overboard, and Stars and Stripes also reported on widespread mental health issues.
Cooper, the top U.S. commander in the war with Iran, said his visit to the ship was “awe-inspiring” and lauded the crew for “stepping up and making mental health and crew resilience a leadership priority.”
President Donald Trump and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, however, have sought to downplay reports of deteriorating morale aboard the Lincoln.
Asked by a reporter on Friday whether the Lincoln’s deployment has gone on too long, Trump said, “No, no, no” and added, “not nearly long enough.” The president also said that the Lincoln would soon be replaced in the region by a different carrier.
Hegseth said that reports are “completely misrepresented.”
The USS George Washington is now headed toward the Middle East and is expected to take the place of the Lincoln, MS Now reported.
Lawmakers, meanwhile, have questioned and criticized the Pentagon over conditions aboard the Lincoln.
Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y., who serves on the Senate Armed Services and Intelligence Committees, said in a statement on Saturday that there “must be accountability for the reported deteriorating conditions endured by our service members serving in a reckless war started with no justification, no strategy, and no end in sight.”
“I demand hearings, accountability, and a clear plan to protect our service members and prioritize American families,” she said.
Top U.S. commander acknowledges mental health issues on USS Lincoln
Cooper's visit and statement come after reports of widespread morale and mental health concerns aboard the Lincoln.www.cnbc.com
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You mean you think they WOULD?
Ragnarok
On and On, South of Heaven
Ragnarok
On and On, South of Heaven
Some are still manning their positions.
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In Pearl Harbor among many others.
bracketquant
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Green scrambled eggs?
That sounds like leftover overcooked and then scrambled hard boiled eggs (the yolks can turn green), mixed in with regular scrambled eggs.
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They cooked them in the standard, professional, military manner. Barely edible. (That’s why the created hot sauce, isn’t it?) They put them in those tall, square aluminum cans the go in the Merrimack cans and sent them out. How clean those cans were about three or four hours before they got to us, I couldn’t even guess.
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Nope..
Scrambled eggs turn green due to a harmless chemical reaction when sulfur in the egg whites combines with iron from the yolks or a metal pan. This happens when you cook eggs at too high a heat, leave them sitting in a pan too long, or use unseasoned cast iron.
Summerthyme
Wildweasel
F-4 Phantoms Phorever
When you do that, try to do so thru the eyes of a WWII GI disgusted with having to eat green eggs being served in the chow hall. Because that's where Dr Suess got the idea for the story. While he was serving in the Army during WWII.
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Ya know it might have been a lot more acceptable if it had been St. Paddy's day, or something like that. Nope! It was February.
TheHippie
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Weary U.S.S. Abraham Lincoln Leaves Middle East
Aug. 20, 2026 Updated 2:21 p.m. ETThe beleaguered aircraft carrier Abraham Lincoln’s work in the Middle East is complete, and the ship, along with its crew of about 5,000 sailors, began its journey home to San Diego on Thursday after nine months of deployment. Another carrier, the Japan-based George Washington, has taken the Lincoln’s place.
A U.S. official confirmed the Lincoln’s departure, which was alluded to by Adm. Brad Cooper, who heads U.S. Central Command, in an opinion essay about the Abraham Lincoln published in The Wall Street Journal on Sunday.
“Godspeed and enjoy the well-deserved reunion soon,” the admiral wrote.
The Abraham Lincoln has been deployed in the Middle East as part of American operations against Iran. Reports began surfacing in recent weeks about poor quality of life aboard the ship because of logistics challenges brought about by Iran’s destruction of a Navy base in Manama, Bahrain, that served as a vital supply hub.
The Abraham Lincoln departed San Diego on Nov. 21 of last year, and has spent the entirety of those 272 days at sea, save for a brief stop in Guam in December and one in Oman to take on supplies. Thousands of sailors aboard the ship have not had any days off to rest, and now have a roughly 13,000-mile voyage home, which could take four to five weeks.
Democratic lawmakers have cited reports of shortages of basic supplies, water contamination, plumbing issues and deteriorating mental health aboard the carrier. Admiral Cooper called many of those issues “old news” in his opinion essay.
In a social media post on Sunday, Central Command, which directs military operations in the region, wished the Lincoln “fair winds and following seas” — a traditional Navy farewell that references the age of sail. On Thursday, another post said the U.S.S. George Washington had arrived in the Middle East and begun operating under Central Command’s control on Wednesday.
The Navy is maintaining about 20 warships in the Middle East outside of the Persian Gulf: two carrier strike groups centered around the U.S.S. George H.W. Bush and the George Washington, one amphibious ready group carrying a Marine Expeditionary Unit, and several destroyers that are enforcing President Trump’s renewed blockade of Iranian ports, which has entered its 38th day.
John Ismay is a reporter covering the Pentagon for The Times. He served as an explosive ordnance disposal officer in the U.S. Navy.
King Samson
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Wow... this thread got quiet, as soon as the MSM stopped talking about it.
The Lincoln, which left the Middle East on Saturday, has not made a port call in more than 200 days, setting a modern-day record for consecutive days at sea, according to Democratic lawmakers. Typically naval deployments are for between six and nine months, but during times of conflict, that can be extended.
The ship, which has roughly 5,000 sailors and Marines aboard, will be in Thailand for "rest and recreation after their long sea journey," the official said, asking not to be named.
Spokespersons for the Thai Navy and the U.S. Embassy in Bangkok did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
The Lincoln left its home port of San Diego in November and was later redirected to the Middle East to support U.S. military operations in the war with Iran. Two military-focused outlets, Navy Times and Stars and Stripes, this month reported suicide attempts and declining morale on the ship.
U.S. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has said the reports "completely misrepresented"the conditions on board. Thailand is the United States' only treaty partner in mainland Southeast Asia, having been a treaty ally since 1954 and a major non-NATO ally since 2003. Both countries' militaries maintain strong relations.
USS Abraham Lincoln to Dock in Thailand Next Week
The U.S. Navy aircraft carrier the USS Abraham Lincoln will dock in Thailand next week, a Thai official said on Tuesday, following a prolonged deployment in the Middle East and reports of mental health concerns and deteriorating conditions aboard.The Lincoln, which left the Middle East on Saturday, has not made a port call in more than 200 days, setting a modern-day record for consecutive days at sea, according to Democratic lawmakers. Typically naval deployments are for between six and nine months, but during times of conflict, that can be extended.
The ship, which has roughly 5,000 sailors and Marines aboard, will be in Thailand for "rest and recreation after their long sea journey," the official said, asking not to be named.
Spokespersons for the Thai Navy and the U.S. Embassy in Bangkok did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
The Lincoln left its home port of San Diego in November and was later redirected to the Middle East to support U.S. military operations in the war with Iran. Two military-focused outlets, Navy Times and Stars and Stripes, this month reported suicide attempts and declining morale on the ship.
U.S. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has said the reports "completely misrepresented"the conditions on board. Thailand is the United States' only treaty partner in mainland Southeast Asia, having been a treaty ally since 1954 and a major non-NATO ally since 2003. Both countries' militaries maintain strong relations.
Cacheman
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Half a years saved paychecks, cheapest port call around, women behind display cases. Should be lots of chaos.
King Samson
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Cacheman
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LOL..
There's a whole lotta testosterone, pent up, just waiting to be released....
now this had me laffing out loud
TheHippie
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Navy Sailor Who Jumped Off USS Abraham Lincoln Faces Disciplinary Charges, Could Lose Pay
A Navy sailor who jumped from the USS Abraham Lincoln this month is facing disciplinary action and could lose half his pay, according to charging documents and testimony from his wife.The latest news follows a series of reports in mid-August claiming that sailors aboard the 5,000-man USS Abraham Lincoln, which has been in combat with Iran for more than five months and has spent more than 250 days in a row without making land, have made multiple attempts to jump overboard and are experiencing other issues with their mental health.
Naval families have also said there are safety concerns, food shortages, water contamination, and disruption in the mail system on the ship.
The unnamed sailor's wife reportedly told MS Now that her husband jumped from the ship in a suicide attempt on Aug. 3, and is now accused of violating the articles of the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ). Military.com contacted the Navy for comment.
MS Now reportedly received charging documents that purportedly show the Navy has accused the sailor in question of violating Article 83 for "malingering"—a term related to instances when a sailor fakes illness to avoid work. The documents also said he had violated Article 86 for "absence without leave."
The charging documents said the sailor could lose half of his normal pay.
“I think they’re insane for doing this to people who need mental help,” the wife told MS NOW. “Instead of giving them help, this is just another huge stressor.”
Two 19-Year-Olds With Children
The sailor's wife told MS Now that medics treated her husband on Aug.13 for five days but that he did not see a psychiatrist or a therapist, and authorities told him to return to work.
She said that the Navy did not contact her about her husband jumping from the ship until four days after the event. She said she learned about the incident from one of her husband's friends who sent her a message.
The couple, who are both aged 19 and have two children, have attracted the attention of lawmakers concerned about the sailor's treatment.
“No one should be punished for getting the mental health care they need,” Rep. Sara Jacobs (D-Calif.), a member of the House Armed Services Committee, told MS Now. “I will continue to call on the Navy to provide our sailors with the necessary support they deserve and will continue doing oversight to ensure that is the case.”
Future of the USS Abraham Lincoln
Multiple reports, citing anonymous officials on Tuesday, said that the vessel will make a brief stop in Thailand to allow rest and recovery.
The reports said this stop would take place in September but did not specify the port or the arrival date, citing security concerns.
The USS George Washington is heading to the Middle East to replace it, according to sources cited by the Associated Press and CNN who indicated that officials had previously planned the swap. Officials have not confirmed the date of this swap.
“The Navy is fully committed to the health and wellbeing of every sailor," A Navy official told MS Now. "We strive to foster environments that support mental health by removing barriers to seeking help, increasing awareness of resources, and taking appropriate action when someone is in need. Mental health resources are available to our sailors 24/7, and asking for help is a sign of strength.”
Navy Sailor Who Jumped Off USS Abraham Lincoln Faces Disciplinary Charges, Could Lose Pay
The unnamed sailor jumped overboard on Aug. 3, his wife said, in what she described as a suicide attempt.
www.military.com
Greatgrandad
Veteran Member
Navy Sailor Who Jumped Off USS Abraham Lincoln Faces Disciplinary Charges, Could Lose Pay
A Navy sailor who jumped from the USS Abraham Lincoln this month is facing disciplinary action and could lose half his pay, according to charging documents and testimony from his wife.
The latest news follows a series of reports in mid-August claiming that sailors aboard the 5,000-man USS Abraham Lincoln, which has been in combat with Iran for more than five months and has spent more than 250 days in a row without making land, have made multiple attempts to jump overboard and are experiencing other issues with their mental health.
Naval families have also said there are safety concerns, food shortages, water contamination, and disruption in the mail system on the ship.
The unnamed sailor's wife reportedly told MS Now that her husband jumped from the ship in a suicide attempt on Aug. 3, and is now accused of violating the articles of the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ). Military.com contacted the Navy for comment.
MS Now reportedly received charging documents that purportedly show the Navy has accused the sailor in question of violating Article 83 for "malingering"—a term related to instances when a sailor fakes illness to avoid work. The documents also said he had violated Article 86 for "absence without leave."
The charging documents said the sailor could lose half of his normal pay.
“I think they’re insane for doing this to people who need mental help,” the wife told MS NOW. “Instead of giving them help, this is just another huge stressor.”
Two 19-Year-Olds With Children
The sailor's wife told MS Now that medics treated her husband on Aug.13 for five days but that he did not see a psychiatrist or a therapist, and authorities told him to return to work.
She said that the Navy did not contact her about her husband jumping from the ship until four days after the event. She said she learned about the incident from one of her husband's friends who sent her a message.
The couple, who are both aged 19 and have two children, have attracted the attention of lawmakers concerned about the sailor's treatment.
“No one should be punished for getting the mental health care they need,” Rep. Sara Jacobs (D-Calif.), a member of the House Armed Services Committee, told MS Now. “I will continue to call on the Navy to provide our sailors with the necessary support they deserve and will continue doing oversight to ensure that is the case.”
Future of the USS Abraham Lincoln
Multiple reports, citing anonymous officials on Tuesday, said that the vessel will make a brief stop in Thailand to allow rest and recovery.
The reports said this stop would take place in September but did not specify the port or the arrival date, citing security concerns.
The USS George Washington is heading to the Middle East to replace it, according to sources cited by the Associated Press and CNN who indicated that officials had previously planned the swap. Officials have not confirmed the date of this swap.
“The Navy is fully committed to the health and wellbeing of every sailor," A Navy official told MS Now. "We strive to foster environments that support mental health by removing barriers to seeking help, increasing awareness of resources, and taking appropriate action when someone is in need. Mental health resources are available to our sailors 24/7, and asking for help is a sign of strength.”
Navy Sailor Who Jumped Off USS Abraham Lincoln Faces Disciplinary Charges, Could Lose Pay
The unnamed sailor jumped overboard on Aug. 3, his wife said, in what she described as a suicide attempt.
How many of us went to war in VN at 17 and 18 years old, and do I mention the 16 year olds who snuck into WW II? Different times I guess. Were some us under a lot of stress, you betcha', but how many would have given their right arm to be serving on a carrier away from the real fighting in the jungles?
TheHippie
Veteran Member
You gotta keep in mind, Obama and Biden did quite a bit of pruning and changing of standards lowering the quality our service members considerably. It'll be a few more years until these people attrition out and are replaced by true "warriors", I imagine there are still enough within ranks of authority that things may just get worse before better.
Greatgrandad
Veteran Member
From what I see, hear and read about and from many youth on a daily basis, I am not so sure. As long as we have a volunteer, smaller military that doesn't engage in a larger war, maybe, but if we have to rapidly build a large military due to large multi-front war like WW II, I think we will have to use nukes.
Bubble Head
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The everyday E3 young Seaman is currently hitting Thailand with about $22,000 in pay. If you have ever done time at sea you know what that means.