Permacul Um, a lot like what I have living in my garden....

China Connection

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Um, I have seen I think this species of rat in the garden area for over three years now. Never had then in the house.

Today I lifted up some small lengths of steel and found a nest of at least ten on them underneath. I expected snakes and never expected these fellows

I thought I have Australia native rats but these look the most like I have. I also have plenty of bush mice to keep them fed.


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Distribution
Native to northern China, the Brown rat has been introduced to Eastern Europe in the beginning of the 18th century. Currently, this animal is found in nearly any area, inhabited by humans, occurring on all continents around the globe, except for Antarctica. Originally, the Brown rats used to occupy forests and brushy areas, living in Asia. Nowadays, they are capable of living in a wide variety of habitats such as open fields, woodlands, basements, garbage dumps and sewers.

Habits and Lifestyle
These animals are generally nocturnal or active at dusk, when they dig burrows, prepare the nests and look for food. As good swimmers, the Brown rats are also known as 'water rats' and can often inhabit areas near water. The Brown rats are highly social creatures, forming groups that are sustained on a dominance hierarchy. Each group has its own territory. Member of the group are usually extremely aggressive to outsiders. Each group is led by the dominant male, which occupies the best areas of the group's territory and can mate with multiple females. Collective nursing is a common activity in these groups with females, helping nurse offspring of another female. However, some females have their own separate nesting burrows. Their burrows are located under the surface of the ground, having 1 - 2 exits along with rooms, intended for nesting and serving as food stores. The area around the burrow has numerous scent-marked routes that are used for foraging and allow them to escape potential threats.


Diet and Nutrition

As omnivorous species, the Brown rat has a rather diverse diet, composed of plant material such as grains, seeds, nuts and fruits, supplemented with mice, young rabbits, birds and their eggs, fish as well as invertebrates such as insects. This rodent is also known to hunt on larger animals, including poultry and young lambs. The animal is able to consume substances such as soap, paper and beeswax. In addition, this rat may also use carrion on occasion.


Mating Habits
MATING BEHAVIOR

Polygynandry

REPRODUCTION SEASON

Year-round

PREGNANCY DURATION

22-24 days

BABY CARRYING

8 pups

INDEPENDENT AGE

3-4 weeks

FEMALE NAME

doe

MALE NAME

buck

BABY NAME

pup, pinkie, kit

Brown rats are polygynandrous (promiscuous), which means that both males and females have multiple mates. The Brown rats are cooperative breeders and may breed throughout the year in large groups that are formed up to 7 times per year. Gestation period lasts for 22 - 24 days, yielding about 8 young, which are born underdeveloped and are extremely small, weighing only 5 grams on average. The pups open their eyes at 14 - 17 days old. Young feed upon maternal milk during the first 3 - 4 weeks of their lives, after which they leave the nest. As these animals practice collective nursing, offspring of different females often live together in the same nest, cared for by various adults. The age of sexual maturity is 3 months old for males and 4 months old for females.


Ecological niche
In some parts of their range, the Brown rats are a key prey species for local predators. Furthermore, these animals contribute to aeration of the soil due to digging burrows. And finally, when foraging, they disperse seeds of numerous plants, thus sustaining the ecosystem.

Fun Facts for Kids
  • These rodents are known to spend a great part of their active time washing and grooming. They remain clean in spite of living among rubbish tips and sewers.
  • Rats occasionally emit a cheerful, laughter-like sound when playing or when they feel happy.
  • In spite of the poor sense of vision, rats possess adorable whiskers, helping them perceive their environment.
  • Rats are highly intelligent animals, able to learn their own name and perform numerous tricks.
  • These rodents are stupendous nappers, and as much as 76% of their daytime hours is spent sleeping.
  • Rats also possess a well-developed sense of taste. For example, they are able to identify poison and remember its taste. In addition, they have an excellent memory.
 
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Bps1691

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Well, guess it would beat eating maggots...

Chinese people bred huge wild RATS for their 'nutritious' meat, came up with dozens of ways to cook them and celebrated '100 reasons to eat them' - before they were banned due to coronavirus
 

Sherrynboo

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My daughter was cleaning out a storage shed a couple of days ago and said a rat almost as big as a possum ran across her hand! I need to relocate my rat snake that resides in the chicken coop into the storage shed.
 

Bps1691

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Um, maggots can be eaten whole. No skinning, no gutting etc....

Breeding time a lot faster plus they don't look as cute.....
Do you get addicted to the "squirming" in your mouth right before the squish in the bite?

Sorry, but I would have to be next to dying from starvation before maggots would be on the menu. Every bird, squirrel, rabbit and even seining all the little fishies in the creeks would have to be consumed before I turned to maggots.
 

China Connection

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Swash them through a fine mesh cloth then hand shake them in a bottle with milk.

You will find out that it is hard to grow protein crops. You need protein to survive.
 

Martinhouse

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I'd rather feed the worms and bugs to my chickens, They can do the processing without electricty. Then I'll have eggs, a little meat and maybe even the feathers would turn out to be useful, too.
 

Sherrynboo

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I just relocated that giant rat snake that was in the nest box today. Easily a 5 footer! I tried my best to get it into the building but it got off the snake hook before I could get the door open so it is under it. Bet it will be back in the hen house by nightfall :(
 

Bps1691

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Swash them through a fine mesh cloth then hand shake them in a bottle with milk.

You will find out that it is hard to grow protein crops. You need protein to survive.
Actually, protein isn't a problem for me. I've grown or been part of field to jar, to table for most of my long life. Fish, hunt, trapped ... and ate a whole lot of strange critters in my day.

There are many types of beans and I've grown a tremendous Varity of them in all kinds of weather and seasons. I even grow them in tubs, raised beds, on the main garden in rows at my daughters farm. I've played with growing sugar beats, wheat and other grain types, rice and even tobacco to the point I did it and figured out how to do it. I still have a few gorilla gardens left this year although I have let most go, I could go back to that practice in short order.

I keep long term seed stores for just about anything that will grow in my AO and the vast majority is all open pollinated.

If we have a Nuclear winter or some such, all bets are off for everybody, but we've tried to plan for most scenarios since pre-2000.

Like I've said in earlier post, things would have to be at rock bottom extinction level for us to eat maggots.
 

China Connection

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True Blue American!!!!!!!!!! Um, The Real Thing........



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Alkali Flies - Mono Lake
https://www.monolake.org › ... › Alkali Flies


Alkali flies are one of the unusual creatures that make up Mono Lake's unique and highly productive ecosystem. In late summer, alkali flies carpet the shoreline, ...



A Kutzadikaa Paiute woman wearing a long dress and bandana in her hair holds a large, shallow basket as she stands knee-deep in Mono Lake scooping up alkali fly pupae.

Humans have also depended on the flies for food. Historically, the local Kutzadika’a people harvested large numbers of alkali fly pupae (kutsavi) in shallow water along the lakeshore. Since the pupae are rich in fat and protein, they were an excellent source of food that were dried and used in stews. The Kutzadika’a traded this delicacy with neighboring peoples as well. Kutzadika’a means “fly eater” in the Kutzadika’a native language.
Since miners and ranchers colonized the basin and destroyed the indigenous way of life, the tradition of eating kutsavi has diminished, but some families continue to enjoy the delicacy today.
DO THE FLIES BITE?
No! Alkali flies move away from people when they approach. They may land on you if you stand still in the middle of the ankle-high cloud, but they only tickle a little as they walk around on your skin.
 
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