HEALTH Trump Says He Will Seek to Eliminate Daylight Saving Time

Blacknarwhal said:
Not that big a problem. You get to see more sunrises!
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I'm pretty sure the number of sunrises will stay the same either way. Even Trump has no power to change that! :lol:

If they do pass legislation for permanent DST, they need to include language letting states change to DST via their legislatures (or language overriding any previous state time changes). AFAIK, the way the law is written now is any state can go to permanent standard time anytime they want, but messing with DST requires approval at the federal level (no, I don't know why they did it that way, but they did). If they don't include language for the states and other jurisdictions, you might get the very odd situation of the entire country going to permanent DST ... except those places that already chose to go to permanent standard time. As noted earlier in the thread, British Columbia is now on permanent DST, and without changes in the U.S. that means half the year B.C. will be out of sync with the rest of the West Coast and Alaska.
 
Babs said:
I hope he does make daylight savings time permanent. It makes for a long winter when it's getting dark here at 3:30 in the afternoon. Now if he would just do something about the chemtrails.
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Out of curiosity, what state do you live in that it gets dark at 3:30 in afternoon during the winter? (besides Alaska)
 
Here's a big reason I believe we should be on Standard Time year round, solar noon is closest to 12 o’clock all year. That means an equal number of hours before and after noon each day. This also means earlier sunrises which are significantly better for establishing a healthy circadian rhythm. This is the primary governor of your sleep. If your body doesn't even know what time it is, how can you expect it to be ready to fall asleep? Sleep is vital for cellular repair, immune function, and emotional regulation. Our natural body clock influences not only how we sleep, but how well we sleep and our body clock is set to Standard Time.

Daylight savings time is not healthy, darkness in the morning is not healthy for your circadian rhythm. The government should never have interfered with modifying it in the first place and most of the world simply remains on Standard Time and which country has the highest diagnosis of sleep disorders, the US of course.
 
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I'm far north (N MN) too, and yeah...it's normally going from "can see" to "can't see" about 4:30 CT in the afternoon. (Time my dad always said it was time to leave the deer stand because it's a half-hour walk back out to the truck!) But that is after we've switched off DST to regular Central Time - normally the first week(s) of November.

If we stay on DST, we will have more light in the evenings - even in winter. Problem and the big gripe will be parents and schools because it will be dark later in the morning (until around 9:00am) for kids waiting for the school bus and walking to school, plus drivers driving those "kid active" hours in the am in the dark. My solution for that is the schools starting an hour later up here on the northern tundra. Seems like a "Duh" to me - but hey - I don't know anything because I'm not a school teacher... :lol:

Again as I have said before. I don't care which on is settled on. Just stop switching it up! We are already on DST about 8 months out of twelve, and on Standard only four months - from first week of November to first week of March. It just isn't worth all the hassle.
 
I’d kinda of like my government to stop their flagrant lying
and the “hold my beer and watch what we can get these morons to do”.
Every time there is an energy crisis they change the clocks

“it’s raining so let’s piss on their shoes”
 
Up until the early 1800s, all times were localized and based on the sun and its local 'high noon'. Towns that are relatively close together may have even had their time set just minutes apart. But at that time, communication was slow and nobody had ever traveled faster than a horse could transport them, so it wasn't much of an issue. When the railroads came through, and with travel so much faster (head-on train wrecks were common), standardized schedules suddenly became very important. That's when today's more uniform time was set, and time zones split the differences.

As to the asinine toggling of the standard and daylight savings times? Who knows, but it's got to be part of a Faustian bargain somewhere along the way.
 
As I have said before, I simply want them to choose one or the other and stick to it - that includes here in Europe.

When it comes to when it gets light and when it gets dark, that is a feature of where people live, and people have to adjust to it. Changing the clocks most of the time does nothing but ensure that family pets are grumpy for the next two weeks after a time change. Cats especially don't like changes, any changes!

Americans are blessed to live in a largely moderate area of the planet when it comes to day and night hours, for most of the year. With the exception of Alaska, most people live in places where, at worst, the sun goes down at 3:30 in the afternoon by the Winter Solstice, and most people get a longer day than that.

Having lived in Sweden, where even in the more southern areas the sun pokes its head out around 10:30 in the morning and is gone by 2:30 on the summer solstice, only to provide about 23 hours of Sunlight by the summer solstice, I know that humans can adjust to almost anything. They do this with things like blackout curtains, a national tradition of multiple candle displays, and entire stores devoted to light fixtures.

I'm sure members here who live in Alaska can relate...

My point is that whatever the original idea was for creating the two different times during the year, those reasons are effectively dead, if they ever really existed at all. The reality for most people, especially those working in modern jobs, is that during some parts of the year they will leave the house in the dark and come home in the dark, especially in colder climates near the equator.

And even then, when I lived in Venezuela, the sun rose and set at about the same time pretty much all year; people with demanding jobs tended to leave in the dark and go home in the dark or late evening. That was because the sun was so intense at midday that it was traditional for work to start early (about 7 am), have a two-hour lunch "break," aka The Siesta, and then work until six or seven pm. British and American companies hated this, but often had to modify their schedules to work with the local climate, rather than pay hospital bills for their employees who dropped from heat exhaustion after failing to respect local conditions.
 
Melodi said:
Having lived in Sweden, where even in the more southern areas the sun pokes its head out around 10:30 in the morning and is gone by 2:30 on the summer solstice, only to provide about 23 hours of Sunlight by the summer solstice, I know that humans can adjust to almost anything. They do this with things like blackout curtains, a national tradition of multiple candle displays, and entire stores devoted to light fixtures.
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I suspect that large parts of the hygge movement, with an emphasis on decorative fire, has something to do with daylight hours in Denmark.
 
Will it even be implemented? He's taking his sweet time, isn't he?

It would be really cool if it did end. Brings me warm fuzzies just thinking about it.

It's not so bad being old and retired though. It was a PITA when I had cats. They are incessantly food demanding creatures that have no allowance for time change twice a year.
 
Signwatcher said:
Will it even be implemented? He's taking his sweet time, isn't he?

It would be really cool if it did end. Brings me warm fuzzies just thinking about it.

It's not so bad being old and retired though. It was a PITA when I had cats. They are incessantly food demanding creatures that have no allowance for time change twice a year.
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You should try it with 50 dairy cows!

Summerthyme
 
Well, it's not like DST involves national security. Now the latest revelation about the Reflecting Pool, that's obviously the highest national priority right now! I wouldn't be at all surprised if the House DST vote gets superseded by a more pressing crisis du jour.
 

The reason House GOP leaders are holding a vote to stop the changing of the clocks

They’re hoping a chance to vote on a key legislative priority for Florida Republicans will convince Rep. Anna Paulina Luna to stand down in her rebellion.

By Kelsey Brugger and Meredith Lee Hill
07/10/2026, 1:00pm ET

House GOP leaders are planning to put legislation on the floor next week that would make daylight saving time permanent in hopes of softening a revolt led by Rep. Anna Paulina Luna.

According to four people granted anonymity to describe internal party strategy, GOP leaders are moving ahead with a vote on the so-called Sunshine Protection Act because the bill is a major priority for Florida Republicans, including Luna. It’s also a top priority for President Donald Trump, who in recent months has personally been calling lawmakers to urge them to back the measure that would add more sunlight to the evening hours and end the twice-yearly practice of changing the clocks.

Luna helped tank a procedural vote before the July 4 holiday in protest of the Senate not having passed the GOP elections bill known as the SAVE America Act, forcing the House to leave early for its weeklong recess. She has still not committed to allowing legislation to go through when Congress is due to return Monday.

The concept of making daylight saving time permanent is popular in Florida, which relies on the tourism and golfing industries. Her office, however, did not respond to a request for comment Friday about whether a vote on daylight saving time would change her calculus.

Meanwhile, it’s also not likely to change the calculus for other House GOP hard-liners who opposed the procedural rule alongside Luna — not as leverage over the SAVE America Act but to demand votes on unrelated border security and immigration legislation. They will need to be enticed in other ways, according to three of the people.

But the decision by Republican leaders to hold a standalone vote on the Sunshine Protection Act, which is already included in the surface transportation reauthorization measure pending consideration by the full House, signals a desperation to get the chamber back on track in short time left before the launch of the August recess and the final stretch of midterm campaign season.

Apart from Luna, passage of the measure at this time would give Trump an easy win as the transportation bill is not expected to advance by its Sept. 30 deadline — plus stands a chance of getting stripped out due to disagreements among lawmakers, particularly among those in agriculture-heavy states worried about the effects of additional hours of darkness on farmers.

Spokespeople for Speaker Mike Johnson and House Majority Leader Steve Scalise did not immediately respond to requests for comment.
 
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Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)

For many years, the vast Majority of Americans have asked to make Daylight Saving Time permanent, but no Administration has been able to get it done, until now. I am proud to announce that the House of Representatives has passed the Bill, and it has now gone to the Senate for final approval...
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For many years, the vast Majority of Americans have asked to make Daylight Saving Time permanent, but no Administration has been able to get it done, until now.

I am proud to announce that the House of Representatives has passed the Bill, and it has now gone to the Senate for final approval.

People are sick and tired of having to change their clocks twice a year.

It is foolish, inconvenient and, in some cases, very costly.

For Cities and States with Watchtowers, and hard to reach places, it costs Millions of Dollars.

A recent case was made that it is also bad for your health in the anxiety it creates.

Leading Medical, Crime, and Economic Studies have shown that ceasing the biannual time change, giving us one extra hour of natural sunlight in the evenings, will help Decrease Robbery and Murder Rates, Reduce Car Accidents (especially those involving Pedestrians!), Lower Risk for Cardiac Issues, Stroke, and Seasonal Depression, Make It Safer for Children to Walk Home from School, Increase Time with your Family, Strongly Support Extracurricular Activities, Boost the Sports, Fitness, Tourism, Retail, and Restaurant Industries (and more!), and Save Money on Energy Bills, because everyone will be enjoying an EXTRA HOUR OF DAYLIGHT.

In other words, leave it as it is now, and never change again.

This is an issue that Republicans, Democrats, and Independents can unite behind.

I am asking Republican Senators to release their holds, and allow the hotline to clear on the Republican side.

LET’S PASS THE SUNSHINE PROTECTION ACT, ASAP.

Thank you for your attention to this matter!

President DONALD J. TRUMP
 
In all fairness the Senate is probably getting pushback on this from their states. I know that there is an effort in PA to stop it. You might not be aware of this but problems with getting children to school is not just confined to rural areas and dark country roads.

The small town I lived in started having problems when DST was moved from April back to practically the beginning of March. There are a lot of streets that students need to cross that are not well lit.

People say that we should just start the school day later. But that means that more students will miss the last class of the day because of athletics.
 
Plain Jane said:
In all fairness the Senate is probably getting pushback on this from their states. I know that there is an effort in PA to stop it. You might not be aware of this but problems with getting children to school is not just confined to rural areas and dark country roads.

The small town I lived in started having problems when DST was moved from April back to practically the beginning of March. There are a lot of streets that students need to cross that are not well lit.

People say that we should just start the school day later. But that means that more students will miss the last class of the day because of athletics.
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Do they not know how to adjust the schedule to make school start later (or is it a matter of not ageeing on when)?
 
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