HEALTH Trump Says He Will Seek to Eliminate Daylight Saving Time

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Trump says he will seek to eliminate daylight saving time​

The Senate passed a bill with broad bipartisan support in 2022 that would have made daylight saving time permanent instead.
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Trump says he will seek to eliminate daylight saving time

The Senate passed a bill with broad bipartisan support in 2022 that would have made daylight saving time permanent instead.
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Dec. 13, 2024, 3:04 PM CST
By Alexandra Marquez

President-elect Donald Trump on Friday said he and Republicans would seek to permanently eliminate daylight saving time when he takes office.

In a post on TruthSocial, Trump wrote: "The Republican Party will use its best efforts to eliminate Daylight Saving Time, which has a small but strong constituency, but shouldn’t! Daylight Saving Time is inconvenient, and very costly to our Nation."

Two of Trump's top advisers, tech mogul Elon Musk and entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy, whom the president-elect has tapped to lead a new Department of Government Efficiency, have also floated the idea of eliminating time changes.

"Looks like the people want to abolish the annoying time changes!" Musk wrote on X last month.
Ramaswamy replied to him, writing, "It’s inefficient & easy to change."
Donald Trump Jr., the president-elect's son, also replied to Musk's post but seemed to share an opposite position from his father's.

"Leave it daylight savings time always," Trump Jr. wrote, adding in several emojis of the number "100," signifying his agreement with Musk.

The younger Trump's position is consistent with a bill the Senate passed in 2022 that would have made daylight saving time permanent beginning the following year.

Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., backed the proposal again in 2023 after it stalled in the House. Trump has said he will nominate Rubio to be his next Secretary of State. It's unclear who would replace him if he is confirmed, but Lara Trump, the president-elect's daughter-in-law, has been floated as a potential candidate.

The 2022 bill was co-sponsored by a bipartisan group of senators, including Sens. James Lankford, R-Okla., Ron Wyden, D-Ore., Cindy Hyde-Smith, R-Miss., Rick Scott, R-Fla., Tommy Tuberville, R-Ala., and Ed Markey, D-Mass.

The Trump campaign did not immediately respond to questions from NBC News clarifying whether Trump seeks to eliminate daylight saving time or make it permanent.

Daylight saving time began in the U.S. in 1918 to save energy during the World War I, but certain parts of the country have eschewed the practice. Hawaii and some parts of Arizona do not participate in daylight saving time.
 
Standard Time is Sun time. It is man’s natural rhythm.

The physical time of the animals of the world. It’s 12:00 when the sun is straight up over your head.

Daylight Savings Time is unnatural. It was started in the US during WW1 to save electricity under Wilson. It was made as we know it now in the 1970’s.

It sucks.

I will be glad to see it go.
 
One of the things people don't consider on this time switching is the kids. And a lot has changed since I was in school and walking to school, grammar through HS. So it may not apply...now.

But my understanding as to the time change was so kids didn't have to walk to school or home from school, or wait on the bus, in the dark.

I walked 10 city blocks to and from school. 11 blocks and you rode the bus. And extremely few kids were driven to school by their parents, every day.

I would never like the idea of my kids waiting on the edge of the road for the school bus, in the dark. We lived/live way out in the country, so the ride was a must.

I could put up with the time change to make sure they walked and could be seen in daylight.

But from what I see occasionally now, if you're not on the bus you're in a car. Who walks anymore to school? So the time change may not be needed.

But back in my day I could put up with it, for the kids sake.
 
I think the original idea behind daylight savings time was so that slaves could get up an hour early to pick cotton, then they would have evening time available to fill out applications for non essential government jobs. Now that we have so many illegals, theres no longer a slave labor crisis and we can just sleep all day instead.
 
CaryC said:
One of the things people don't consider on this time switching is the kids. And a lot has changed since I was in school and walking to school, grammar through HS. So it may not apply...now.

But my understanding as to the time change was so kids didn't have to walk to school or home from school, or wait on the bus, in the dark.

I walked 10 city blocks to and from school. 11 blocks and you rode the bus. And extremely few kids were driven to school by their parents, every day.

I would never like the idea of my kids waiting on the edge of the road for the school bus, in the dark. We lived/live way out in the country, so the ride was a must.

I could put up with the time change to make sure they walked and could be seen in daylight.

But from what I see occasionally now, if you're not on the bus you're in a car. Who walks anymore to school? So the time change may not be needed.

But back in my day I could put up with it, for the kids sake.
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Simple. For safety considerations, adjust the time that school starts so it stays consistent from Sept. to May.

As country kids, we stood at the side of a busy U.S. Highway to wait for the bus at 6:10 am in N MN. Haha..up here, it's still pitch dark at 7:10 am in the winter. Central Time doesn't help much. Daylight is still darned scarce.
 
When you live rural like some of us do, catching the bus in the dark was never an issue, cause the dang school might be an hour ride away or more with so many stops in between.
Besides no one tell the farm animals the time changes, the dang cows knows when to come to the milk barn even in the dark.
 
Just keep it standard. Heck, even now, the sun doesn't come up until 0745. In another month it'll be 0800 or so. Of course, if this has to change by using our illustrious congress, there will also be $79.7 Billion in spending for global cooling warming climate change as well.
 
Cyclonemom said:
Doesn't it have to go through the Congressional bill process first??
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Not at the state level. Any state (and presumably the federal government as a whole) can end Daylight Saving Time and go to Standard Time anytime they want to. Some, like Arizona, already have. What states can't do is adopt permanent Daylight Saving Time. That requires Congressional approval. No, I don't know why they wrote the law that way, but they did.

Animals don't know the difference between the time changes. Cows need to be milked at pretty much the same time every day, so changing the clock an hour just means the farmer has to get up an hour earlier or later. Same argument applies to slaves, since changing the clock doesn't change the available daylight by so much as one second beyond the normal shortening/lengthening of daylight time as the planet moves around the Sun and the seasons change. The way we measure time is in some ways arbitrary. We could adopt a metric clock (yes, there is such a thing) and it wouldn't change the amount of daylight and darkness -- all it would really do is just change the labelling (and confuse the hell out of people until they adapted).
 
tanstaafl said:
We could adopt a metric clock (yes, there is such a thing) and it wouldn't change the amount of daylight and darkness -- all it would really do is just change the labelling (and confuse the hell out of people until they adapted).
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GMT above.

All time measure is is a number - it can be ANY number. The Brits and their man John Harrison (Clockmaker inventor of the marine chronometer) were probably the earliest to establish Greenwich England Observatory as their "base time."

en.wikipedia.org

Greenwich Mean Time - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

Dobbin
 
CaryC said:
One of the things people don't consider on this time switching is the kids. And a lot has changed since I was in school and walking to school, grammar through HS. So it may not apply...now.

But my understanding as to the time change was so kids didn't have to walk to school or home from school, or wait on the bus, in the dark.

I walked 10 city blocks to and from school. 11 blocks and you rode the bus. And extremely few kids were driven to school by their parents, every day.

I would never like the idea of my kids waiting on the edge of the road for the school bus, in the dark. We lived/live way out in the country, so the ride was a must.

I could put up with the time change to make sure they walked and could be seen in daylight.

But from what I see occasionally now, if you're not on the bus you're in a car. Who walks anymore to school? So the time change may not be needed.

But back in my day I could put up with it, for the kids sake.
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I hate the time change, but if true, this would trump (little "t") my concerns.
 
Dobbin said:
Greenwich Mean Time.

It will seem odd to Owner to get up at 0200, but he'll get used to it.

EVERYONE (except for the equine) will re-set their "established time" to the universal system.

Dinner at 1400 (i.e. 6 pm EST)

Dobbin
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I think you got that wrong, oh esteemed wise horse. Eastern Standard Time is GMT+5hrs. Dinner time would be 2300 GMT (6pm EST = 1800EST + 5 = 2300GMT).
 
As far as school times go, the best school I ever went to was in tiny Geronimo, OK in the very early 70's. Because it was a farming community and some of the older kids had to help in the morning, we didn't start school until 9:00 and got out at 3:30...so humane for the kids. There, nobody went to school in the dark, ever.
 
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