BRKG TRUMP BROKERS HISTORIC PEACE AGREEMENT: Israel and the United Arab Emirates reached a historic peace deal

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
Look to the person who actually made the deal. Trump is just there to sign the deal. The deal maker was his SIL Jared. Who is also heading up the deal between Israel and the Palestinians.

Nobody is saying Trump is the AC. But looking at Jared is a possibility, and just that, a guess.

I've been guessing since Kissinger, so there is that. LOL
Yeah... Jared has always given me the heebie-jeebies.

Pure malice in his eyes...

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Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
I have to say that I have been wondering about Trump (yes, I voted for him and will again). The Anti-Christ supposedly comes in as a peace maker, and Trump has been making peace. I really really hope it isn't him... but that's an intriguing thought that the deals are really being made by Kushner, so he is a candidate. All I can say is that if that Simpson's cartoon showing Trump in his coffin comes to pass, Trump had better stay dead! (The mortal wound and all that...)
You might like this thread:

Has The Anti-Christ Arrived? Is This Him?
 

AlfaMan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Yep, Jared gives me the heebie jeebies too. (Reminds me of Korean men that regularly wear makeup-yes, it's a thing in South Korea).
But putting together a peace agreement between the UAE (with 7 different emirates/leaders in a Swiss canton govt. type setup) and Israel (sworn enemy of all Arabs) is nothing short of spectacular. Brains and money at peace and working together could definitely settle down the middle east.
This is a huge deal, one I didn't hear about until I logged into timebomb this evening. That's sad. I can see cooperation between these two nations to benefit each other greatly.
 

jward

passin' thru
In 1st response from Iran, official says UAE will be ‘engulfed in Zionism fire’
Adviser to Iranian parliament speaker says that with normalization deal, Abu Dhabi turned back on Palestinians, serves ‘Zionist crimes’
By TOI staff
14 August 2020, 1:19 am


Iranian official, Hossein Amir-Abdollahian, then deputy foreign minister, speaks during a press conference in Moscow, Russia, August 3, 2012. (AP Photo/Misha Japaridze)
Iranian official, Hossein Amir-Abdollahian, then deputy foreign minister, speaks during a press conference in Moscow, Russia, August 3, 2012. (AP Photo/Misha Japaridze)





A special adviser to the speaker of Iran’s parliament issued the first response from an Iranian official to the normalization deal announced between Israel and the United Arab Emirates on Thursday.
“UAE’s new approach for normalizing ties w/fake, criminal #Israel doesn’t maintain peace & security, but serves ongoing Zionists’ crimes,” wrote Hossein Amir-Abdollahian, an adviser on international affairs and a former deputy foreign minister.
“Abu Dhabi’s behavior has no justification, turning back on the Palestine cause. W/ that strategic mistake, #UAE will be engulfed in Zionism fire,” he added.


The text was accompanied by a graphic showing a Star of David being “deleted” on a computer.
UAE's new approach for normalizing ties w/fake, criminal #Israel doesn't maintain peace & security, but serves ongoing Zionists' crimes. Abu Dhabi behavior has no justification, turning back on the Palestine cause. W/ that strategic mistake, #UAE will be engulfed in Zionism fire. pic.twitter.com/NDNy94laa8
— H.amirabdollahian (@Amirabdolahian) August 13, 2020
Israel and the United Arab Emirates announced the agreement Thursday afternoon. They “agreed to the full normalization of relations between Israel and the United Arab Emirates,” they said in a joint statement.
The deal marks the third such agreement the Jewish state has struck with an Arab country after Egypt and Jordan.
Israeli and UAE delegations will meet in the coming weeks to sign bilateral agreements regarding investment, tourism, direct flights, security and the establishment of reciprocal embassies, it said.

“As a result of this diplomatic breakthrough, and at the request of President Trump with the support of the United Arab Emirates, Israel will suspend declaring sovereignty over areas outlined in the President’s Vision for Peace and focus its efforts now on expanding ties with other countries in the Arab and Muslim world,” the statement said.
UAE officials commenting on the agreement to “establish a roadmap towards launching common cooperation,” as UAE Foreign Minister Anwar Gargash put it, emphasized that it would end Israeli annexation and revive the peace process.
The Palestinian Authority reacted with fury to the announcement, calling for the United Arab Emirates to “immediately retract” its agreement, which it called a “despicable decision.”

PA President Mahmoud Abbas called an emergency meeting in response to the agreement, while the PA recalled its ambassador to the UAE in protest over the deal.
“The Palestinian leadership rejects the actions of the Emirati government, considering it to be a betrayal of the Palestinian people and Jerusalem and al-Aqsa,” PA spokesperson Nabil Abu Rudeineh said in a statement read aloud on Palestine TV.
Senior Fatah and Palestinian Liberation Organization officials also lashed the accord, as did the Hamas and Islamic Jihad terror groups.

Abbas and Hamas political chief Ismail Haniyeh spoke over the phone Thursday night to discuss the UAE-Israel agreement.
Israel’s Arab allies — those with whom the Jewish state has signed treaties and some of those who have preferred to stay in the shadows so far — mostly hailed the agreement, including Egypt, Bahrain, and a Saudi official.
Jordan issued a more tepid statement, calling for Israel to stop “all illegal measures which undermine peace opportunities,” and enter into negotiations with the Palestinians.

 

SouthernBreeze

Veteran Member
In 1st response from Iran, official says UAE will be ‘engulfed in Zionism fire’
Adviser to Iranian parliament speaker says that with normalization deal, Abu Dhabi turned back on Palestinians, serves ‘Zionist crimes’
By TOI staff
14 August 2020, 1:19 am


Iranian official, Hossein Amir-Abdollahian, then deputy foreign minister, speaks during a press conference in Moscow, Russia, August 3, 2012. (AP Photo/Misha Japaridze)
Iranian official, Hossein Amir-Abdollahian, then deputy foreign minister, speaks during a press conference in Moscow, Russia, August 3, 2012. (AP Photo/Misha Japaridze)





A special adviser to the speaker of Iran’s parliament issued the first response from an Iranian official to the normalization deal announced between Israel and the United Arab Emirates on Thursday.
“UAE’s new approach for normalizing ties w/fake, criminal #Israel doesn’t maintain peace & security, but serves ongoing Zionists’ crimes,” wrote Hossein Amir-Abdollahian, an adviser on international affairs and a former deputy foreign minister.
“Abu Dhabi’s behavior has no justification, turning back on the Palestine cause. W/ that strategic mistake, #UAE will be engulfed in Zionism fire,” he added.


The text was accompanied by a graphic showing a Star of David being “deleted” on a computer.

Israel and the United Arab Emirates announced the agreement Thursday afternoon. They “agreed to the full normalization of relations between Israel and the United Arab Emirates,” they said in a joint statement.
The deal marks the third such agreement the Jewish state has struck with an Arab country after Egypt and Jordan.
Israeli and UAE delegations will meet in the coming weeks to sign bilateral agreements regarding investment, tourism, direct flights, security and the establishment of reciprocal embassies, it said.

“As a result of this diplomatic breakthrough, and at the request of President Trump with the support of the United Arab Emirates, Israel will suspend declaring sovereignty over areas outlined in the President’s Vision for Peace and focus its efforts now on expanding ties with other countries in the Arab and Muslim world,” the statement said.
UAE officials commenting on the agreement to “establish a roadmap towards launching common cooperation,” as UAE Foreign Minister Anwar Gargash put it, emphasized that it would end Israeli annexation and revive the peace process.
The Palestinian Authority reacted with fury to the announcement, calling for the United Arab Emirates to “immediately retract” its agreement, which it called a “despicable decision.”

PA President Mahmoud Abbas called an emergency meeting in response to the agreement, while the PA recalled its ambassador to the UAE in protest over the deal.
“The Palestinian leadership rejects the actions of the Emirati government, considering it to be a betrayal of the Palestinian people and Jerusalem and al-Aqsa,” PA spokesperson Nabil Abu Rudeineh said in a statement read aloud on Palestine TV.
Senior Fatah and Palestinian Liberation Organization officials also lashed the accord, as did the Hamas and Islamic Jihad terror groups.

Abbas and Hamas political chief Ismail Haniyeh spoke over the phone Thursday night to discuss the UAE-Israel agreement.
Israel’s Arab allies — those with whom the Jewish state has signed treaties and some of those who have preferred to stay in the shadows so far — mostly hailed the agreement, including Egypt, Bahrain, and a Saudi official.
Jordan issued a more tepid statement, calling for Israel to stop “all illegal measures which undermine peace opportunities,” and enter into negotiations with the Palestinians.

The sword rattling of the Eze. 38-39 war are drawing up sides. Just as the Bible predicts.
 

poppy

Veteran Member
I have to say that I have been wondering about Trump (yes, I voted for him and will again). The Anti-Christ supposedly comes in as a peace maker, and Trump has been making peace. I really really hope it isn't him... but that's an intriguing thought that the deals are really being made by Kushner, so he is a candidate. All I can say is that if that Simpson's cartoon showing Trump in his coffin comes to pass, Trump had better stay dead! (The mortal wound and all that...)

Trump cannot be the anti Christ, period. You can read of the anti Christ coming in the sixth seal in revelation. He is none other than Satan himself when Michael kicks him out of heaven onto earth. He is in his own body and it is not flesh like us. Trump had parents and is in flesh, thus he does not qualify. The appearance of the anti Christ will dwarf anything we have seen and the Bible says the whole world will whore after him. Most of the world hates Trump. The Book of Ezekiel describes him as full of beauty. No one can say that about Trump no matter how much we like him. Look up the word 'anti' in the Greek concordance as used in the NT and you will find it does not mean 'against'. It means 'instead of'. Satan comes pretending to be Christ but he is a fake. The true Christ does not come until the 7th trump. These talks of peace deals is, I believe, leading to the appearance of the anti Christ pretty soon.
 

TammyinWI

1st Amendment Right and Pertinent
you mean this :rolleyes:
And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
"Two-state solution" the "Vision of Peace" (?) states...with a bunch of fluff added.
 

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
Trump cannot be the anti Christ, period. You can read of the anti Christ coming in the sixth seal in revelation. He is none other than Satan himself when Michael kicks him out of heaven onto earth. He is in his own body and it is not flesh like us. Trump had parents and is in flesh, thus he does not qualify. The appearance of the anti Christ will dwarf anything we have seen and the Bible says the whole world will whore after him. Most of the world hates Trump. The Book of Ezekiel describes him as full of beauty. No one can say that about Trump no matter how much we like him. Look up the word 'anti' in the Greek concordance as used in the NT and you will find it does not mean 'against'. It means 'instead of'. Satan comes pretending to be Christ but he is a fake. The true Christ does not come until the 7th trump. These talks of peace deals is, I believe, leading to the appearance of the anti Christ pretty soon.
Again...

There is an exhaustive study on this here:




The AntiChrist will be from the Middle East. It is NOT Trump.



Daniel 9:26 - " And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. "

If we can identify these people, we will have irrefutable proof as to the origin of the Anti-Christ.

Common western teaching is that since it was the Roman Legions under Titus who destroyed the city and the temple, the Anti-Christ must come from Europe. This is where we get modern teaching along the lines of the Left Behind series of novels.

The Tenth Roman legion was responsible for breaching the wall and setting fire to the temple, destroying it.

However, the Tenth Roman legion was comprised of Syrians and Turks.

Don't believe me?

Check it out:

What ethnicity comprised the Roman Tenth Legion that destroy the Jewish temple in 70 AD? - Answers

God made it clear through His word and He worded it in such a way so as that we do not misunderstand it to mean the indigenous Romans.

The Roman form of conquest was to assimilate the nations that it conquered and while the people would be considered citizens of Rome, they were not the " people " of Rome.

There is a big difference.

The meaning of the word " people " in Hebrew is an ethnic denotation. It does not refer to the kingdom or empire that the people lived under. Hebrew scholar Arnold Fruchtenbaum described the word as, " A bloodline, and not a country ".

So, we need to look at the bloodline, the ethnicity and not those who ruled over them to determine the " people " who destroyed the temple and make up the " people " of the prince to come.

That the Tenth Roman Legion was responsible for the destruction of the Temple can be proven through historical records.


This is the beginning of the Latin inscription on this triumphal column dedicated to Titus, who led the siege against Jerusalem. The abbreviation "LEG-X-FRE" appears at the bottom, indicating that the column was erected by the Tenth Roman Legion. Most likely, this column stood at one of the entrances to the Roman temple in Jerusalem. The column was discovered as part of the foundation to a Moslem palace south of the Temple Mount.

The ethnic make-up of these legions is also a historical fact.

" Titus Caesar found in Judaea three legions, the 5th, the 10th, and the 15th. To these he added the 12th from Syria, and some men belonging to the 18th and 3rd, whom he had withdrawn from Alexandria. This force was accompanied by a strong contingent of Arabs, who hated the Jews with the usual hatred of neighbors. "
- Tacitus, The History, New Ed edition Book 5.1. Editor: Moses Hadas, Translators: Alfred Church, William Brodribb (Modern Library; New York, 2003

Here is a list of the legions and where they were stationed prior to 70 A.D.

1. Legion V Macedonia: Judea or Moesia
2. Legion X Fretensis: Syria
3. Legion XV Appolinaris: Syria
4. Legion XII Fulminata: Asia Minor/Syria
5. Legion XVIII: Egypt
6. Legion III Gallica: Syria

So, these legions would not consist of Roman citizens, Rome could not be stretched thin enough to man her entire empire through its own citizens, there weren't enough people. These legions would be composed of the peoples of the land...

Arabs...

Again, this can be confirmed.

" the legions consist[ed] almost exclusively of provincials. "
- Lawrence J.F. Keppie, scholar of Roman History and author of Legions And Veterans: Roman Army Papers 1971-2000; Franz Steiner Verlag, 2000

" In the East, that is Asia Minor, Syria and Egypt, it seems clear that local recruitment was well under way under Augustus [d.14 A.D.], so that by his death only a very small number of legionaries derived from Italy or indeed any of the western provinces. Nero [d. 68A.D.], when the eastern legions required supplementation it was to Cappadocia and Galatia that [Rome] looked for recruits. This was doubtless standard procedure. [The] legions of the East consisted largely of 'orientals' "
- Middle Easterners, Phang Pages 57-58

" To the Roman public, the army of 69-70 AD probably seemed little different than its counterpart under Julius Caesar. The legionaries wore familiar equipment, and marched behind the silver aquila, their legions bearing names and titles which reflected their origins and the exploits of earlier days. But in reality much had changed: What had been an army of Italians was increasingly becoming an army of provincials owing no particular allegiance to, or common bond with the Senate or the urbs Roma. Increasingly they began to identify their interests with those of the provinces in which they were stationed. By AD 69 Gallica III, like other legions long stationed in the East, contained a very high proportion of men born in the eastern provinces. "
- Middle Easterners, Phang Page 44

In his book, Soldiers, Cities, and Civilians in Roman Syria (University of Michigan Press, December 21, 2000) Nigel Pollard, professor of Roman History at Oxford University, examines in great detail the ethnicity of the Roman soldiers of the eastern provinces during the first century. After reviewing the most thorough and up-to-date research on the subject, Pollard details the overwhelming majority of the soldiers that destroyed the Temple were primarily Syrians, Arabs, and Eastern peoples.

" Other evidence that Syrian legions of the Flavian period were characteristically 'Syrian' in some way comes from Tacitus reference to Legion 3 Gallica saluting the rising sun according to the custom of Syria in A.D. 69 "
- Soldiers, Cities, and Civilians in Roman Syria page 116

Even Flavius Josephus documented the make-up of the legions:

" The greatest part of the Roman garrison was raised out of Syria; and being thus related to the Syrian part, they were ready to assist it. "
- The Wars of The Jews, History of the Destruction of Jerusalem, by Flavius Josephus. Trans. William Whiston, Book II: Chapter, Para. 7

So, the " Prince to come " does NOT come from America, Western Europe, or the European Union and he MUST be of Arabic descent.

Proof in God's Word...
 

Deanne

Senior Member
Is Trump Jewish? Is Jared? The AC has to be Jewish in order for them to accept him. Read Daniel
 

TammyinWI

1st Amendment Right and Pertinent
:cool:

Major Patriot
@MajorPatriot

1h

BREAKING: Trump sent pallets of $0 Billions in order to broker this peace deal.
$50 billion...it says it above, and reported here, too. The following retrieved from:


This is where the economic component comes in. The Trump administration has pledged to drum up $28 billion over 10 years to support Palestine, with $22 billion of additional funding going to Jordan, Egypt, and Lebanon. This aid comes in the form of investment. The money would go toward infrastructure and transportation links, raising standards of living, and enabling broader regional trade. Funding would also be devoted to improving education, healthcare, and workforce development. Only small amounts of money were pledged at the Bahrain conference last year. But the U.S. has pledged that they’re not going to let the process die for lack of cash.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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Is Trump Jewish? Is Jared? The AC has to be Jewish in order for them to accept him. Read Daniel
I’m not so sure. Though I know Trump isn’t the AC, the Israelis gush all over him, saying he’s the best US leader ever, and even naming a town after him. They love him as much as we do.
 

Deanne

Senior Member
I’m not so sure. Though I know Trump isn’t the AC, the Israelis gush all over him, saying he’s the best US leader ever, and even naming a town after him. They love him as much as we do.
Do you think they are thinking he is the Messiah they are waiting for?
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
Did I miss something and fall into the "religion room" if so I guess I can start quoting Nostradamus on his theories of the three "antichrists" no wait, I think I'm still on the mainboard.

By the way, this news is huge! With or without all the interpretative escatology. Alphaman mentioned that already and if Saudi joins in things get really "interesting" especially since they recently (along with Iran) signed agreements with the Chinese.

However, I suspect the Saudis might be a bit more "flexible" than Iran in terms of whom they support, at what time and for how many minutes before changing again.

Turkey really is the current fly in the ointment, already backed by China, and has stated that they (or rather He - their "Sultan") wants to restore the Ottoman Empire (basically take over most of the Middle East) including Mecca and Medina.

The Saudi's know what that means (extermination as an independent country and becoming a client State of "Neo-Ottoman Turkey) and are unlikely to be very supportive unless in the short term they think it benefits them and that they can "win" later.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
Thank you, Dennis, I think this news is VERY important too, which is why I keep checking the thread.
 

jward

passin' thru
My apologies if I'm supposed to set the tone and tenor of the thread: I tend to find the process as illuminating as the event, and far more fun...but if y'all are Mis-Behaven, please knock it off ~ Pappa bear will take us out for ice cream if we are good! :cool:
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5. Behind the scenes: How the Israel-UAE deal came together
President Trump announces the deal with (from left) Brian Hook, Avi Berkowitz, Ambassador to Israel David Friedman, Jared Kushner, Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin. Photo: Andrew Harnik/AP
The breakthrough in talks among the U.S., Israel and UAE on yesterday's normalization deal began in June, with an op-ed in the Israeli press in which UAE Ambassador Yousef Al Otaiba stressed that Israel had to choose between normalization and annexation, Barak Ravid reports for Axios from Tel Aviv.
  • At the end of June, Al Otaiba approached Jared Kushner and White House envoy Avi Berkowitz with a proposal: The UAE would agree to normalization with Israel in return for an Israeli announcement that West Bank annexation was off the table.
  • Kushner liked the proposal, and Berkowitz began attempting to lay the groundwork.
The White House had its own reservations about annexation, which Berkowitz discussed with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in meetings over three days in late June.
  • Momentum grew. Kushner spoke on the phone several times with Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Zayed (MBZ), the UAE's de facto ruler.
  • He and Berkowitz had at least two dozen meetings with Israel's ambassador to Washington, Ron Dermer, and Al Otaiba.
Several days ago, an agreement was reached in principle but was kept secret.
  • The deal was finalized on Wednesday in a conference call among President Trump, Netanyahu and MBZ.
What's next: Trump said he'll host Netanyahu and MBZ at the White House for a signing ceremony in about three weeks.
Go deeper: Palestinian president fumes.
How it's playing ...
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jward

passin' thru
Iran, Turkey slam Israel-UAE deal, others welcome 'historic step'


Issued on: 14/08/2020 - 12:39Modified: 14/08/2020 - 12:41

President Donald Trump's White House senior adviser Jared Kushner, third from right, speaks in the Oval Office at the White House as Trump listens on August 13, 2020, in Washington, DC.

President Donald Trump's White House senior adviser Jared Kushner, third from right, speaks in the Oval Office at the White House as Trump listens on August 13, 2020, in Washington, DC. © Andrew Harnik, AP Photo


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Iran and Turkey lashed out at their regional rival the United Arab Emirates on Friday over its decision to normalise diplomatic relations with Israel in a US-brokered deal, accusing the UAE of betraying the Palestinian cause. Others welcomed the landmark deal as a step towards peace in the region.


A joint statement released by US President Donald Trump, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and UAE leader Sheikh Mohamed bin Zayed al-Nahyan announced "the full normalisation of relations between Israel and the United Arab Emirates".
The UAE, which has never fought Israel and has quietly been improving ties for years, said the agreement also puts a hold on Israel's plans to annex parts of the occupied West Bank, which the Palestinians view as the heartland of their future state.
The agreement makes the UAE the first Gulf Arab state — and the third Arab country, after Egypt and Jordan — to have full diplomatic ties with Israel. The Palestinians said the deal amounts to “treason” and have called on Arab and Muslim countries to oppose it.
The accord also delivered a key foreign policy victory for US President Donald Trump as he seeks re-election and reflected a changing Middle East in which shared concerns about Iran have largely overtaken traditional Arab support for the Palestinians. Trump has suggested that other countries in the region will follow the UAE's lead.

Israel, the UAE and other Gulf countries that view Iran as a regional menace have been cultivating closer ties in recent years. Turkey has had diplomatic relations with Israel for decades, but under President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has positioned itself as a champion of the Palestinians. Turkey and the UAE are often at odds over supporting rival camps in the conflict in Libya.
The Turkish foreign ministry said the United Arab Emirates had no authority to negotiate with Israel on behalf of the Palestinians or “to make concessions on matters vital to Palestine”. Turkey said the people of the region “will never forget and will never forgive this hypocritical behaviour” by the UAE.
Iran's foreign ministry also slammed the accord, calling the deal a “dagger that was unjustly struck by the UAE in the backs of the Palestinian people and all Muslims”.

UAE's Gulf neighbours
Oman said Friday it backed the normalisation of ties between the country and Israel, and hoped the move would help achieve a lasting Middle East peace.
A foreign ministry spokesman expressed the sultanate's "support for the UAE's decision regarding relations with Israel" according to a statement by Oman's official news agency.
Bahrain said on Thursday it welcomed the landmark UAE-Israel deal, saying that it would boost prospects for peace in the Middle East.
"This historic step will contribute to strengthening stability and peace in the region," the Bahraini government said in a statement on the national news agency.

Egypt
In Egypt, President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi welcomed the measure as a plan "to halt the Israeli annexation of Palestinian lands".
"I followed with interest and appreciation the joint statement between the United States, United Arab Emirates and Israel to halt the Israeli annexation of Palestinian lands and taking steps to bring peace in the Middle East," Sisi said on Twitter.
Sisi also called Abu Dhabi's Crown Prince Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed al-Nahyan to congratulate him on taking a "historic" step towards peace.

Jordan
Jordan said Thursday that the Israeli-Emirati normalisation deal's impact on peace efforts would depend on Israel's actions, including its stance on a two-state solution with the Palestinians.
Jordanian Foreign Minister Ayman al-Safadi, who neither welcomed nor rejected the agreement, said that "the impact of the deal on peace efforts is linked to the actions Israel will take".
He said the Jewish state must end its "illegal actions" and its "violations of Palestinian rights" while urging Israel to engage in "direct, serious and active peace negotiations on the basis of a two-state solution".
But Safadi added that Jordan backs "any real effort that contributes to achieving comprehensive and just peace that ends Israeli occupation and meets the legitimate rights of the Palestinian people".



'Historic' Israel-UAE deal 'formalises something that was clandestine'


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France

France also welcomed the landmark deal between Israel and the UAE, albeit with some reservations, calling for the suspension of Israeli annexation plans to become "definitive".

"The decision taken within this framework by the Israeli authorities to suspend the annexation of Palestinians territories is a positive step, which must become a definitive measure," French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian said in a statement on Thursday.

"The new state of mind shown by these announcements must now allow the resumption of negotiations between Israelis and Palestinians with a view to establishing two states within the framework of international law and agreed parameters, which is the only option to enable a just and lasting peace," Le Drian added.

Germany

Germany's Foreign Minister Heiko Maas welcomed both the agreement and the decision to suspend annexation. He called to congratulate his Israeli counterpart Gabi Ashkenazi on “this historic step”.

“We stand by our position that only a negotiated two-state solution can bring lasting peace to the Middle East,” Maas said in a statement.

"Together with our European partners and the region we have campaigned intensively in past months against an annexation and for the resumption of direct negotiations. We are also ready to actively support such a process,” he added.

United Nations

United Nations Secretary General Antonio Guterres also said he hoped the deal could help move towards the realisation of a two-state solution for peace in the Middle East.

"The secretary-general welcomes this agreement, hoping it will create an opportunity for Israeli and Palestinian leaders to re-engage in meaningful negotiations that will realize a two state-solution in line with relevant UN resolutions, international law and bilateral agreements," a spokesman for Guterres said in a statement.

United States

Trump promoted the deal as a "huge breakthrough", while his rival in the upcoming November presidential election also welcomed the development.


"HUGE breakthrough today! Historic Peace Agreement between our two GREAT friends, Israel and the United Arab Emirates!" Trump said on Twitter.

"Everybody said this would be impossible ... After 49 years Israel and the United Arab Emirates will fully normalise their diplomatic relations," Trump later told reporters.

Democratic White House candidate Joe Biden called the UAE's move "a welcome, brave and badly-needed act of statesmanship".

White House adviser Jared Kushner, who helped draw up Trump's controversial Middle East peace plan, described the deal as "an icebreaker" and voiced hopes of seeing "countries start to do the same".

(FRANCE 24 with AP, AFP and REUTERS)

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CaryC

Veteran Member
I always felt it was Obama, then after Biden's eye problem, I added him to the possibility list. Biden creeps me out; I was physically sick the first time I saw Obama on TV when he was running for Senate, and I hadn't even known who he was yet. (evil, thru and thru)

Although, I did have to put Jared on the list too after Trump brought him into the picture, just lower on the list than the other two..
LOL I get that. Happened to me with Javier Solana. And today people will say, "Who?"
 

CaryC

Veteran Member
I’m not so sure. Though I know Trump isn’t the AC, the Israelis gush all over him, saying he’s the best US leader ever, and even naming a town after him. They love him as much as we do.
I just started back where I left off yesterday, and am answering replies as I go through, so you may already have an answer. I'm pretty sure Trump is not Jewish. However, Jared is most certainly Jewish, grandparents survived/died in the Camps in Germany. And he practices Kabbalism. The night before (?) the election in 2016 he and Ivanka went to pray to a dead Rabbi in NYC to get Trump elected. Just saying there is no question as to Jared's Jewishness.
 

jward

passin' thru
Israel-UAE peace deal: Flipping the regional order of the Middle East
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Cinzia Bianco
Hugh Lovatt
14th August, 2020
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The Israel-UAE peace deal provides multiple wins for both countries, and for the US. But it could yet deepen the region’s political fault lines.


The announcement that Israel and the United Arab Emirates (UAE) have agreed to normalise relations was broken in the most Trumpian way possible – via the American president’s Twitter account. The move is the culmination of a geopolitical alignment that has been covertly but steadily redrawing the map of Middle Eastern alliances. From the Gulf to the eastern Mediterranean, Israel and the UAE have found themselves on the same side as they work to contain the growing influence of Iran and increasingly that of Turkey. Perhaps just as significantly, the deal brings with it significant political wins for the leaders of all three countries, including the US.


The significance of yesterday’s news should not be downplayed. In their own right, all peace agreements should be warmly received, especially between two important allies of the United States and European Union. However, while this deal is designed to usher in a new phase in Israeli relations with Gulf monarchies, it may not be the key to unlocking wider Arab-Israeli peace. And it once again leaves the Palestinians feeling that they are paying the price for other countries’ geopolitical ambitions.


The timing of the announcement undoubtedly left many diplomats and pundits flatfooted. But, in many ways, it came as no surprise. Israel and Gulf monarchies – the UAE and Bahrain in particular, but Saudi Arabia as well – have been increasing their bilateral relations for years. Despite focusing mostly on intelligence sharing, they have extended their cooperation into a number of other areas, participating in joint military exercises, diplomatic initiatives, research and development, and investment. Shared antipathy towards Iran and the JCPOA nuclear agreement has been an important catalyst for this nascent alignment. The Trump administration has encouraged this, keen to contain Iran as much as to back Israel’s regional posture and secure some kind of regional legacy.


Like any good deal, it provides wins for all the parties.


This is especially true for Donald Trump and Binyamin Netanyahu – both of whom face difficult domestic political scenes. It hands both leaders a momentous foreign policy accomplishment at a politically expedient time: Trump is badly trailing his Democratic challenger three months out from national elections, while Netanyahu is flirting with the idea of collapsing his unhappy coalition government and calling a fresh election (Israel’s fourth in under two years). The deal also allows them to pivot away from Trump’s vaunted Peace to Prosperity plan for resolving the Israeli-Palestinian conflict – endorsed by the UAE – which both leaders have grown lukewarm towards despite having publicly committed to it.


Trump can now swap a pretty big flop for a significant foreign policy win – perhaps his one and only. Netanyahu has, meanwhile, pulled off a political escape worthy of Houdini, trading the plan’s proposal for Israel to de jure annex the West Bank – which he has been less than enthusiastic about and which has caused him only political headaches – for a historic breakthrough that he had long promised the Israeli public.


Despite some risks, it also brings initial political gains for the UAE’s de facto ruler Mohammed Bin Zayed. UAE officials have of late been increasingly explicit that their regional ambitions cannot be forever tied to Israel’s unresolved conflict with the Palestinians. First and foremost, this deal adds to the tremendous amount of political capital that the Emirati leader already enjoys in Washington. He will be able to cash in this goodwill regardless of who wins the US presidency – for some time the UAE has been pursuing a strategy of hedging its bets between a new Trump term and a Democratic presidency.


The Emiratis have long tried to position their country as a regional leader and model. As part of these efforts, they have espoused a rhetoric of religious tolerance in opposition to what they frame as the extremism of political Islam promoted by Iran and Turkey – its two main regional adversaries. From Abu Dhabi’s perspective, the deal may formally widen the UAE’s diplomatic and military alliance against these countries. In addition, it may be able to purchase more advanced US weaponry previously off limits to it, including drones. Finally, formal normalisation with Israel will provide an important boost for the UAE in a difficult global climate, creating further opportunities for economic diversification and cooperation in scientific research and, crucially, cyber security.


However, there are risks, too.


In soon becoming only the third Arab country to sign a peace agreement with Israel – after Egypt and Jordan – the UAE has made a major concession and in doing so is breaking one of the biggest political and social taboos in the Arab world. Arab countries have collectively vowed to only normalise their relations with Israel in exchange for a full Israeli-Palestinian peace agreement. In flipping the order by putting regional peace before Palestinian peace, the UAE is removing a key incentive Israel may have had to end its occupation. Unsurprisingly, replacing Palestinian statehood with regional normalisation has long been one of Netanyahu’s main ambitions and he now emerges as the main winner of Trump’s announcement.


It is unclear how Arab and Muslim public opinion will respond, especially in the Gulf region. In the UAE, a mixture of strict controls on public discourse in traditional and social media and a growing coldness towards Palestinians among the youth – the majority in the population – may mean that there is little backlash. Emirati officials have consistently underlined that the deal has been signed in return for Israel’s pledge to suspend any move towards annexing the West Bank. But while the UAE aims to present itself as the only Arab player able to block Israeli annexation, to many Palestinians its words are at odds with their daily reality.


Full normalisation with the UAE may indeed have dissuaded Israel from a formal declaration of sovereignty over West Bank territory for now – or at least provided Netanyahu with convenient cover not to do so immediately. But Israel has had to make no concession. If anything, its maximalist behaviour has been rewarded. Its de facto annexation and settlement of Palestinian territory will continue unobstructed, entrenching a system of control that favours Jewish Israelis over their Palestinian neighbours and increasingly looks like South Africa’s past system of apartheid. Netanyahu has already come out saying that this agreement only suspends annexation and that it will still happen, an outcome which risks exposing the UAE position.


Trump can now swap a pretty big flop for a significant foreign policy win – perhaps his one and only
The deal may now open the door for other Gulf monarchies to follow suit. The limited cooperation that exists between Israel and Saudi Arabia is unlikely to turn into normalisation any time soon – after all, King Salman dedicated decades of his life to the Palestinian cause and Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman is currently too enmeshed in handling the sensitive domestic political situation as he prepare to succeed his father. However, Saudi Arabia may encourage Bahrain to embrace normalisation: Riyadh has long viewed its junior partner in Manama as a way of interacting informally with Jerusalem and it may do so more freely under the framework of a normalisation.


However, these bilateral agreements remain unlikely to bring in an era of regional peace. Closer UAE-Israel ties could in fact deepen rather than seal the region’s deepest fault lines. More muscular action by the UAE and Israel (and the US) against Iran and its regional allies, or against Turkey in the eastern Mediterranean, could lead to further destabilisation and encourage the mistaken belief that the region’s many conflicts can be resolved though zero-sum policies when all evidence points to the contrary. Partners and allies of Jerusalem and Abu Dhabi, in the US, but also in Europe, must therefore work hard to ensure that this deal does not translate into heightened geopolitical competition. Instead, they should take advantage of the current diplomatic activity to revive the Middle East’s many stalled diplomatic initiatives and de-escalation efforts.

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SouthernBreeze

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However, these bilateral agreements remain unlikely to bring in an era of regional peace. Closer UAE-Israel ties could in fact deepen rather than seal the region’s deepest fault lines. More muscular action by the UAE and Israel (and the US) against Iran and its regional allies, or against Turkey in the eastern Mediterranean, could lead to further destabilisation and encourage the mistaken belief that the region’s many conflicts can be resolved though zero-sum policies when all evidence points to the contrary. Partners and allies of Jerusalem and Abu Dhabi, in the US, but also in Europe, must therefore work hard to ensure that this deal does not translate into heightened geopolitical competition. Instead, they should take advantage of the current diplomatic activity to revive the Middle East’s many stalled diplomatic initiatives and de-escalation efforts.
This goes along with my belief that a ME war will take place, before the final "Deal" is achieved.
 

danielboon

Has No Life - Lives on TB
PM thanks Arab leaders for supporting UAE peace deal

Itamar Eichner|
Published: 08.14.20 , 15:51

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Friday thanked Arab leaders for supporting the peace agreement between Israel and the United Arab Emirates.


"I thank the President of Egypt al-Sisi, and the governments of Oman and Bahrain for their support of the historic peace agreement between Israel and the United Arab Emirates," said Netanyahu. "This agreement expands the circle of peace and will benefit the entire region." PM thanks Arab leaders for supporting UAE peace deal
 
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