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Zelensky doesn't rule out world war in case of full-scale escalation by Russia
Kanaryan Lyudmila

4 minutes


Despite expert assumptions regarding September, he is sure "such a powerful escalation cannot occur."
Zelensky doesn't rule out world war in case of full-scale escalation by Russia / REUTERS

Zelensky doesn't rule out world war in case of full-scale escalation by Russia / REUTERS
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky does not rule out a new world war in case of a full-scale escalation by the Russian Federation.
He announced this during the All-Ukrainian forum "Ukraine 30. Country Security" in the capital city of Kyiv, an UNIAN correspondent reported.
Read alsoZelensky sees de-escalation after real threat of full-scale invasion by Russia Zelensky sees de-escalation after real threat of full-scale invasion by Russia Answering a question whether a full-scale or targeted Russian offensive against Ukraine, not only from Donbas, but also from Crimea and Belarus, is possible in September and whether Ukraine is ready for this, Zelensky said: "Are we ready? We are, as a whole, a country with a very strong and courageous military."
"Are we ready, is the world ready, is Europe ready for a full-scale war? I think no one is ready. Absolutely. If this happens… I think Russia cannot go for this... I am sure we feel it now – both by the signals that we get and the work that we have done, diplomatically, by the support of Ukraine's independence by Europe and the United States. [Otherwise,] I think it could be a world war," the president said.
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Zelensky stressed it is "very dangerous," but "there is nothing and no one to be afraid of, since we are on our land and defend it."
"It's scary only because of such events, because of such threats that such steps could take place. And such steps historically always lead to losses, big losses: hundreds of thousands, millions of people," he said.
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Despite expert opinions and assumptions regarding September, he believes "such a powerful escalation cannot occur."
Also, when asked whether Ukraine could cope on its own, without help from other states, if such a situation happened, Zelensky said: "We will fight to the last."
Russian military build-up along Ukraine borders, in occupied Crimea
  • On March 30, 2021, Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Colonel-General Ruslan Khomchak said Russia had deployed 28 battalion tactical groups along the state border of Ukraine and in the temporarily occupied territories. It is also said to be planning to bring up to 25 battalion tactical groups under the guise of preparations for military drills.
  • Fifteen warships of Russia's Caspian Flotilla entered the Black Sea.
  • Russia also relocated Su-25SM3 warplanes from Russia's Stavropol Krai (Territory) to occupied Crimea.
  • On April 22, 2021, Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said his country would begin the withdrawal of troops, which had taken part in military exercises in occupied Crimea and near the borders of Ukraine, to their permanent bases in the Southern and Western Military Districts.
  • On May 6, 2021, Zelensky said the Russian Federation had withdrawn only 3,500 troops from occupied Crimea out of tens of thousands of military personnel deployed on the borders and temporarily occupied territories of Ukraine.
  • Moreover, on April 24, 2021, the Russian Federation closed off several areas of the Black Sea near occupied Crimea for foreign warships and government ships. The restriction will be in effect from 21:00 local time on April 24 to 21:00 local time on October 31, 2021.
Translation:
www.unian.info

Zelensky doesn't rule out world war in case of full-scale escalation by Russia

Despite expert assumptions regarding September, he is sure "such a powerful escalation cannot occur."
www.unian.info www.unian.info
 
Zagdid

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jward said:
Zelensky doesn't rule out world war in case of full-scale escalation by Russia
Kanaryan Lyudmila

4 minutes


Despite expert assumptions regarding September, he is sure "such a powerful escalation cannot occur."
Zelensky doesn't rule out world war in case of full-scale escalation by Russia / REUTERS't rule out world war in case of full-scale escalation by Russia / REUTERS

Zelensky doesn't rule out world war in case of full-scale escalation by Russia / REUTERS
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky does not rule out a new world war in case of a full-scale escalation by the Russian Federation.
He announced this during the All-Ukrainian forum "Ukraine 30. Country Security" in the capital city of Kyiv, an UNIAN correspondent reported.
Read alsoZelensky sees de-escalation after real threat of full-scale invasion by Russia Zelensky sees de-escalation after real threat of full-scale invasion by Russia Answering a question whether a full-scale or targeted Russian offensive against Ukraine, not only from Donbas, but also from Crimea and Belarus, is possible in September and whether Ukraine is ready for this, Zelensky said: "Are we ready? We are, as a whole, a country with a very strong and courageous military."

Zelensky stressed it is "very dangerous," but "there is nothing and no one to be afraid of, since we are on our land and defend it."

Despite expert opinions and assumptions regarding September, he believes "such a powerful escalation cannot occur."
Also, when asked whether Ukraine could cope on its own, without help from other states, if such a situation happened, Zelensky said: "We will fight to the last."
Russian military build-up along Ukraine borders, in occupied Crimea
  • On March 30, 2021, Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Colonel-General Ruslan Khomchak said Russia had deployed 28 battalion tactical groups along the state border of Ukraine and in the temporarily occupied territories. It is also said to be planning to bring up to 25 battalion tactical groups under the guise of preparations for military drills.
  • Fifteen warships of Russia's Caspian Flotilla entered the Black Sea.
  • Russia also relocated Su-25SM3 warplanes from Russia's Stavropol Krai (Territory) to occupied Crimea.
  • On April 22, 2021, Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said his country would begin the withdrawal of troops, which had taken part in military exercises in occupied Crimea and near the borders of Ukraine, to their permanent bases in the Southern and Western Military Districts.
  • On May 6, 2021, Zelensky said the Russian Federation had withdrawn only 3,500 troops from occupied Crimea out of tens of thousands of military personnel deployed on the borders and temporarily occupied territories of Ukraine.
  • Moreover, on April 24, 2021, the Russian Federation closed off several areas of the Black Sea near occupied Crimea for foreign warships and government ships. The restriction will be in effect from 21:00 local time on April 24 to 21:00 local time on October 31, 2021.
Translation:
www.unian.info

Zelensky doesn't rule out world war in case of full-scale escalation by Russia

Despite expert assumptions regarding September, he is sure "such a powerful escalation cannot occur."
www.unian.info www.unian.info
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This is what happens when a comedian gets elected as president.
 
Doomer Doug

Doomer Doug

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I expect they both will be beaten to death while trying to escape.
The situatiom is going TACTICAL. What are French fighters doing over the Black Sea?

The cyber attack was Russian plausible denial mode in response to biden messing with the Russian pipeline to Germany. Watch the Master Putin play the game par excellente.

The american sheeple are to STUPID to last much longer at the rate Putin is gaming the usa. One half of americans know the score, the Trumpsters, and one half, the liberals, are too stupid to survive much longer.
Maxine Walters anybody?:jstr:
 
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This is from a major player in the Russian Orthodox church: Some politicians too reckless about the possibility of war—Metropolitan Hilarion (Alfeyev)

Some politicians too reckless about the possibility of war—Metropolitan Hilarion (Alfeyev)


Moscow, May 11, 2021

Photo: tvzvezda.ru
Photo: tvzvezda.ru

Some Russian politicians display too much bravado and are too reckless with the possibility of war, believes His Eminence Metropolitan Hilarion of Volokolamsk.

Nevertheless, the head of the Moscow Patriarchate’s Department for External Church Relations hopes that world leaders will have the wisdom to prevent the outbreak of a new world war.

“I have great concern for the way the situation is developing—the stories with the expulsion of diplomats, the stories with the reduction of embassy staff. I think that if all this does not come to a halt and stop at some point, it will lead to very sorrowful consequences,” His Eminence said on the recent episode of the Church and the World program on Russian television, reports Interfax-Religion.

According to the Metropolitan, many people today have lost the idea that war is evil, as the Second World War ended already 76 years ago. “There are fewer and fewer people who still remember the war, and they’re being replaced by young people who are sometimes very militant.”

Even some politicians don’t take the threat of war seriously enough, Vladyka Hilarion explained: “And even some politicians now say that Russia has always won all wars; we’re not afraid of anything; whoever comes to us with a sword will die by the sword.”

And in any case, as Met Hilarion noted, Russia has not won all of its wars, and even when it has won, it has still suffered massive losses. Although Russia was on the winning side in the First World War, for example, the war led to large-scale casualties and the collapse of the empire, His Eminence said.

“Therefore, to say that we’re not afraid of war ... is a very irresponsible statement, especially at the present time, when the whole world is a powder keg, when a huge arsenal of nuclear weapons has been accumulated and when, in the absence of deterrent factors, the use of weapons could lead to a global catastrophe” the DECR head warned.

He is counting on politicians do everything they can to steer negotiations in a peaceful direction, to avoid an all-out conflict and global war.



5/11/2021
 
Doomer Doug

Doomer Doug

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The voice of wisdom speaks. Will either Russia or the USA listen?
I have my doubts biden can even understand. Obama, Moochelle, hellary and nuland etc really are to arrogant to care at this point.
Add in Jerusalem and china and it ALL comes together. :sheep::sheep:
 
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Plain Jane

Just Plain Jane

Zerohedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
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Escobar: Pictures Of A Ukrainian Dream
Tyler Durden's Photo

BY TYLER DURDEN
THURSDAY, MAY 13, 2021 - 02:00 AM
Authored by Pepe Escobar via The Saker blog,
Picture yourself about to meet a girl with kaleidoscope eyes… No. Sorry. Actually picture merry lines of code in the R programming language – wallowing in a happy valley of game theory models which would not preclude Goth or New Romantic Walkyrie dancin’ to the 12-inch version of Bauhaus’s Bela Lugosi is Dead.

Imagine this reverie coming about because of a “pin!” in your inbox. After all you have just been presented with an astonishing piece of intel. You scramble to the exit, actually the entrance of the Magic Theater, where you ask, Keats-style, Was it a dream? Do I wake or sleep?

So what was the dream about? Oh, something so prosaic, so down to the nitty gritty geopolitics: what really happened during the visit of US Secretary of State Tony Blinken to Ukraine.

The great Andrei Martyanov has remarked that Blinken “told Kiev behind the scenes to ‘dial it down’, amidst the fluffy tropes about US concern for Ukraine’s ‘sovereignty’ and ‘security’”.
Well, looks like there was way more than fluffy tropes.

Leaked info on the closed-door meeting between Blinken and Comedian-in-Charge Zelensky is no less than incandescent.

Blinken seemed to have read a no-holds-barred riot act.
Here are the guidelines.

  • All Ukrainian state corporations must be controlled by the proverbial “foreign interests”. So board majorities must be either foreign or 5th columnists. The entire anti-corruption vertical drive must also be foreign-controlled. Same for the judicial system.
  • Andriy Kobolyev – an American asset – must be reinstated as head of Naftogaz. Zelensky moved mountains to get rid of Kobolyev.
  • Blinken demanded a massive push against every Ukrainian oligarch, so that huge chunks of Ukrainian economy are transferred to – who else – foreigners. Same for land privatization.
  • Somewhat hilariously, Blinken warned that Russian troops might invade Ukraine. In this case, Zelensky can count only on huge political assistance, not military. So Zelensky in fact was ordered to stop asking to join NATO and cease provoking Russia, as President Putin, who already drew red lines, could make a “drastic decision”.
  • Blinken demanded that American assets should be untouchable by Ukrainian law, and named honored figures of civil society. Maidan cookie distributor Victoria “F**k the EU” Nuland, also in the room, drew up a list of The Untouchables, and Blinken met with them separately.
  • Finally, the giant ghost hanging over the whole trip to Kiev had to make itself known. In practice, Zelensky was invited to turn in everyone in Ukraine who helped bring information about Hunter Biden to the media via Rudolph Giuliani.
According to the source who had access to the leak, Zelensky was left beyond speechless. That’s not exactly what he was expecting. Especially when it comes to transferring valuable assets controlled by Ukrainian oligarchs to “foreign interests”. Someone will inevitably whack him.

No one is touching this leak – as if it was radioactive poison. No one will confirm it. Its plausibility though cannot be denied.

Contradicting these powerful, left unnamed “foreign interests” is simply out of the question. They now seem to be guided by a “take the money and run” logic, as in taking over the looting of Ukraine lock, stock and barrel before the whole thing – actually a failed state – blows up.
Pity those oligarchs who thought they were going to loot the land through privatization. Instead the money is on a one way out journey. Follow the money. Follow the dream.
 
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