…… Treadmills--mechanical vs electrical

BlueNewton

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I want to buy a treadmill. I have a lot of experience with regular motorized treadmills and that was what I planned on buying. Then I recently came across a couple strictly mechanical ones being offered (old-fashioned ones, I guess you could say). Although I don't expect that needing to run on my non-electrical treadmill will be high on the list of priorities if the SHTF, I do wonder if saving on the electrical costs might be important over time. So, I have to ask--just how good are the mechanical machines? Do they run smoothly? Can the speed be easily varied depending on one's pace? Can one run backwards on them as easily as on an electrical treadmill? Are they any more dangerous?
Are they louder or just plain irritating to use in any way?

I would very much appreciate any input from members with experience with non-motorized treadmills or any herasay information. Thanks in advance!! :popcorn1:
 

nomifyle

TB Fanatic
Through the years I've had a couple of mechanical ones and did not care for them, but its been a good while and I'm sure the technology has improved.

Judy
 

BlueNewton

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Can you tell me, Judy, what it was about them that you did not like so I can make an informed decision? Perhaps they have not changed. Thanks for your reply.

BN
 

blackjeep

The end times are here.
I've got a Nordic Track treadmill that is mechanical. It's well made, but I don't like it.

I'm a large male type human and the more you weigh, the more friction there is as the belt slides over the frame of the treadmill.

My wife and daughter used it during the winter and they like it more than I do. I suppose the weight difference (meaning a much more intense workout for me) has something to do with it. I couldn't seem to build up any inertia in the mechanism, so it seems like I was slogging though deep sand or going up a steep hill.

We got it from a nice lady who advertised it locally online. We got it for $40 and it was in very good shape, so it was a good deal.
 
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Dobbin

Faithful Steed
I've thought of going the treadmill route but the issues that have been brought up by Blackjeep have deterred me.

Instead, I think I want to do the "electric generator bicycle" thing. There have been several articles in Homepower magazine about hitching a permanent magnet motor (which is actually a generator) to the front wheel of an exercise bike. You do away with the "brake" portion and instead you watch the watt-hour meter feed the battery.

See http://www.homepower.com/article/?file=HP104_pg94_Leslie for a synopsis of the article.

Then when you're done exercising, you can go get a slice of apple pie (a la mode) and watch battery powered TV until you feel like working it all off again.

Best,
Joe
 

Amazed

Does too have a life!
The mechanical ones wear you out before you even get started. We have an high end electric one and it's great. My friends that have mechanical ones come here to work out. There's that much difference.
 

nomifyle

TB Fanatic
I agree with amazed, they wore me out, just hard to use and I seem to remember the belt slipping. I prefer the electric ones. At home I have a recumbent bicycle and have no negatives except it doesn't get me on it, I have to make myself do that (HAHA). Seriously I like it, the recumbent is much more comfortable to stay on and has the back support. It has the electronic stuff to tell you how fast you are going and such, but I have used it manually and that was okay (couldn't find the cord, lol).

Judy
 

BlueNewton

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Thanks for the very helpful replies. They have pretty much put me off buying one then.

I certainly do like the idea of charging a battery while working out! How about a battery charger for my outdoor bike? And another for my threadmill--it charges as the motor runs the band? Then I can use it to power my laptop to read TB2K. Brilliant!! And no squirrels required.
 

BlueNewton

Membership Revoked
Joe,

I would unfortunately need to become a member of the site to view the article you mentioned, which looks great. Any way to post any of it here?
Thanks.

BN
 

Dobbin

Faithful Steed
It's been a while since I looked at Homepower's marketplace page.

I'm a site member at Homepower and able to buy single or more archive issues, but apparently they've made an additional layer called "online member" which is a paid position and gets you a year's digital issue subscription. An additional $9.95 annual gets a print version mailed to your home.

I'm not surprised at this. Homepower used to be digitally FREE online for many years apparently subsidized heavily by the advertisers. But slowly and surely they've tightened the profitability screw and first charged for archive and then current digital issues. I guess you could say the free exchange of information has it's limits.

I have issue #104 in paper. Unfortunately this precludes me from "cutting & pasting" here online and since it is copywrited, I'd be subject to the force of law if I did so. As an ordinary member, however, you or I can get it for the cost of an digital archive issue which is only $5.

Burdon's Surplus Center has PM magnet motors which can be used for this. See http://www.surpluscenter.com It almost doesn't matter which motor generator you choose providing it has the capability of 200 or more watts, and an output/input voltage greater than 12 volts - the battery will hold it in line voltage wise and the amount of push on the pedals will tell you if the pulley on the motor is too big or too small.

As an accessory to constructing the exercise bike which can be done from parts for less than $100, I might also suggest you purchase a digital watt-hour meter to track your output. A suitable meter can be seen at http://www.rc-electronics-usa.com/ammeters/dc-amp-meter.html This is a product used with remote control racing cars but well suited to this use as well. The only downside to this meter is that it's "one-way" only. You have to wire it first between the generator and battery and then between battery and end use to fully track energy input and output to your system. Bogart Engineering's Tri-metric meter will do this and more and is a step upwards in convenience - but at considerably greater cost.

I've considered that at now middle age and survivor of a heart attack, that with this device I now have the ability to track and monitor my output capabilities over the remainder of my lifespan. The time and money to construct such a pedal powered generator might be a good investment in my health as well as the ultimate prep item.

See also http://www.homepower.com/article/?file=HP106_pg108_Letters_2

Also google "Frank R. Leslie" and you'll see several articles of environmental/energy saving/green bent as well. Interesting guy!

Best,
Joe
 
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