MORON Three Mount Shasta climbers rescued after relying on AI to plan climb

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SISKIYOU COUNTY, Calif. — Three novice climbers were rescued from Mount Shasta on Sunday after becoming lost, running low on supplies and spending an unplanned night in Mud Creek Canyon, the U.S. Forest Service - Shasta-Trinity National Forest (USFS) said.

The group began its climb from the Clear Creek Trailhead on Saturday, Aug. 29, and set up camp near the head springs of Clear Creek at about 8 p.m. Officials said the site was prohibited because it is within the water and spring zone.

The climbers started toward the summit at 3 a.m. on August 30, carrying food and water for what they expected to be an eight-hour climb. They made slow progress and reached 11,000 feet around 1 p.m., where they discussed turning around but decided to continue.

Around 3 p.m., the group stopped at Mushroom Rock, at about 12,800 feet. The USFS said other climbers gave them different advice: one group suggested they turn around, while another encouraged them to continue. The three climbers said they were not feeling well but continued and reached the summit around 7 p.m.

About an hour later, the group called 911 for directions while descending near 12,800 feet. They continued down the mountain but went far off route and entered the upper part of Mud Creek Canyon.


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One climber had used the AllTrails phone app during the climb up the mountain, but the phone battery died. A backup battery charger did not work, the USFS said. The group mostly relied on sight while descending, though one climber had a Garmin watch.

At about 11,500 feet, one climber lost balance and hurt their left knee. The USFS said the climber did not have a headlamp on at the time, despite carrying one, because they were trying to save its battery. The climber instead relied on light from the other two climbers’ headlamps.

The group continued downhill before stopping around midnight near 11,000 feet. They were not prepared to spend the night outside and did not have enough food, water, warm clothing or emergency shelter supplies, officials said.

Forest Service climbing rangers reached the group at about 9:30 a.m. Sunday. The climbers were exhausted, hungry and thirsty. Rangers treated the injured climber’s knee, which was stable, and gave the group food and water.

The injured climber was able to walk. A California Highway Patrol helicopter could not hoist the group from the canyon, and a second hoist attempt around 12:30 p.m. was called off because of strong winds.

Rangers helped the climbers out of Mud Creek Canyon and back to their base camp near Clear Creek Springs by about 3 p.m. Members of Siskiyou Search and Rescue then helped them return to the trailhead, where the rescue ended around 6:30 p.m.

The USFS said the climbers told them they had used an artificial intelligence platform, YouTube videos and AllTrails to plan the trip. They said they relied on AI to decide what food to bring and how much food and water they would need.

The group said it packed supplies for an eight-hour climb, not its roughly 16-hour ascent. The climbers said AI recommended simple carbohydrates instead of fats because fats “take too long to digest.”

“We relied too much on AI rather than our own critical thinking,” the group told rangers.

Officials said climbers should use reliable sources, carry paper maps and other backup navigation tools, set a turnaround time and follow it. They also urged climbers to bring enough food, water, warm clothing and emergency supplies for a long day or an unexpected night on the mountain.

Summerthyme
 
Potential Darwin Awards. Novice climbers = mo-tards in this case. Not prepared for what nature can throw at you. Not having backups for the backups, no hard copy map, no compass, no knowledge on how to use either a map or compass, no knowledge of the area, and the list goes on and on about how utterly unprepared they were for this climb.

What a waste of oxygen. Far too many people do this kind of thing and the results are not always favorable. Mother Nature will exploit any small discrepancy/mistake you make and then it goes from a bad situation to a really bad, potentially deadly situation really, really fast.

Any guesses that these rocket scientists didn't know what the 10 Essentials and 15 Criticals were or are? Pretty apparent from the article they didn't have much in the way of supplies and were not prepared for any delays, injuries, or alternative routes.
 
I hope they will charge them for the cost of their rescue! Maybe they can ask AI how they can make a quick thousand bucks each to pay for it!

It seems odd that not ONE of those rocket scientists read that stupid AI advice to "carry all simple carbs for rations, because fat takes too long to digest" (!!!) with ANY hint of "waitaminnit! Don't we WANT to eat foods that will slowly release energy while we're on an all-day climb?"

We really are doomed!

Summerthyme (OTOH, maybe at least one of these idiots may learn to be very skeptical of AI "facts". IF any of them are capable of learning from experience)
 
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Morons.

I climbed it in 1984 with my brother in law.

This is a good nut shell I found and recall all the names and routes he talks about. Except we made it back at sun set but started way before sun rise.

From another's account not long ago...


At the above site it is vary informative, and right on. This is the best trail to summit there is. And traveled enough that its a obvious trail. Read Patrick Grievs account.
 
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Becoming normal thing where people call 911 to be rescued off the side of a mountain because of weather or they have no idea where they are I.E. lost and on top of all that their equipment is not up to the task to survive a night there.
It is becoming normal for local government to hand these people the bill for the rescue I'm told can be quite $teep! Like $20,000. and one was $40,000. you bet they won't do that again.
 
Becoming normal thing where people call 911 to be rescued off the side of a mountain because of weather or they have no idea where they are I.E. lost and on top of all that their equipment is not up to the task to survive a night there.
It is becoming normal for local government to hand these people the bill for the rescue I'm told can be quite $teep! Like $20,000. and one was $40,000. you bet they won't do that again.
Just putting a helicopter in the air usually starts at $15,000
 
I'd never be able to attempt such a climb, but even on my much more modest day hikes, I carried a backup flashlight (for the headlamp), extra batteries for the flashlight, headlamp, and GPS, an external battery for the phone, a SPOT device, a map and a compass, extra layers, extra water, food and snacks that while carb-heavy, also had a lot of fat and protein. I'd absolutely *never* depend on an idiotic AI to plan my hike, and I always set a (rough) turnaround time.

(I've return-hiked in the dark (or near-dark) many a time, but always by headlamp or flashlight, and even then usually only the last 20 minutes or so of a hike, because I lingered or dawdled a bit too long. Hiking in the dark by headlamp is sketchy enough even if you've traversed that same ground going in (and recall the tricky parts); trying to hike downhill on a mountain the size of Shasta using only the scattered light from OTHER people's headlamps is insanity. They were lucky there wasn't a worse injury.)
 
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