CORONA There's Something About The Numbers Of C-19 Deaths I Wonder About

day late

day late

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According the info I just looked up as of 09/09/21 4,620,066 people have died from the virus. No I'm not counting vax deaths. Now when this whole thing started it was said that for the world population as a whole the survival rate was over 99%. Also most people would either be asymptomatic or have mild symptoms. So that would have to mean (if my math is correct, which it most likely isn't) the total number of infections would have to be in excess of 457,000,000,000. Now, since the current world population is 7,789,079,600+ and rising constantly, doesn't it seem that the numbers are more than just a bit off?
 
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Pinecone

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Hmm. Math is hard this time of night. Here's my stab at it.

(dead) 4,620,066 = ( not dead but infected) x
which is .01 of population (1%) which is .99 (99% of population)

4,620,066 x .99 = .01(x)

4,573,865.34 = .01(x)

x = 457,386,534 (population which is infected but not dead)

I think you got lost with the decimals. I could have gotten lost, too.

Who else will take a stab at it at 2321 hours? :D
 
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Marthanoir

TB Fanatic
Pinecone said:
Hmm. Math is hard this time of night. Here's my stab at it.

(dead) 4,620,066 = ( not dead but infected) x
which is .01 of population (1%) which is .99 (99% of population)

4,620,066 x .99 = .01(x)

4,573,865.34 = .01(x)

x = 457,386,534 (population which is infected but not dead)

I think you got lost with the decimals. I could have gotten lost, too.

Who else will take a stab at it at 2321 hours? :D
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It's 07:34am and I'm just enjoying my first cup of coffee before getting the kids out the door to school, .I ain't going near that puppy :lol:
 
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bluelady

Veteran Member
S = # infected
S x .01 < 4,620,066
S x .01/.01 < 4,620,066/.01
S < 462,006,600

And people think algebra is useless! :)

Doesn't mean my algebra is correct in the middle of the night. :) :)
 
Millwright

Millwright

Knuckle Dragger
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Maffs is hard.

Think about the number of people you encounter who can't count back change, without a calculator.

Exactly how "they" have sold the :hof: component of this scam.


Many idiots think we are just shy of bodies in the street.
 
Dobbin

Dobbin

Faithful Steed
One of my insights in my last go-around on this is that its possible to report Covid Deaths "since the beginning" and on a more recent month-by-month basis.

The Covid infection fraction of deaths (not percentage) for the US total population just passing month = 0.00003 or .003 percent.

If you take the numbers back to the beginning of the Covid for total Covid deaths v. the current US population, the result is more like 0.0027 or 0.27 percent of the population have found death in Covid. The vast majority of these above age 65.

The monthly fraction is more like your ACTUAL chance of dying of Covid right now. The total number is not so useful as a measure of risk now. Seemingly they have gotten better at the medical care necessary to survive Covid - or possibly the vaccine may be having an effect on survivability. Hard to know.

Meanwhile the chance of dying in a fall either in the month or the duration is about 4x either of these numbers. You don't go around avoiding stairs, living only on the first floor, giving windows a 6' margin, or staying off bar stools in preference for sitting on the floor (no falls)

Another meanwhile. The primary killer of Americans is Heart Disease. One in 10 Americans will die of heart disease (about 1 in 5 will experience the symptoms of HD during their life.) There are not daily updates to the death total for HD daily in the news, no "commissions" reporting improvements, no teachers making back-up plans for when they keel over at the blackboard, and no stress-tests required for to keep one's occupation or activities - including driving a car.

And not a word in the news...

Tell me there isn't propaganda...

Dobbin
 
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hunybee

hunybee

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Luddite

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How many have had it but chose not to get tested, for a myriad of reasons?

The global number of infected is much higher.

I know I sound like a broken record but 3rd world deaths give a better idea of the true progression.
Of course those may be skewed by ivermectin or HCQ usage.

Sorry to bring up this inconvenient possibility again, but no family advocates are there in the hospitals or nursing homes. Are even a fraction of patients getting triaged unnecessarily into the after-life?

We just heard last night a local hospital was pushing end-of-life paperwork at a family from church a few weeks ago. One doctor whispered to the patient "I can give you one shot for ALL THIS to go away". Patient responded "My God will decide that".

They went to another hospital and got the heart valve work done. Patient recovering at home already.
(This anecdote wasn't covid related, on the surface)
 
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Papa

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day late said:
According the info I just looked up as of 09/09/21 4,620,066 people have died from the virus. No I'm not counting vax deaths. Now when this whole thing started it was said that for the world population as a whole the survival rate was over 99%. Also most people would either be asymptomatic or have mild symptoms. So that would have to mean (if my math is correct, which it most likely isn't) the total number of infections would have to be in excess of 457,000,000,000. Now, since the current world population is 7,789,079,600+ and rising constantly, doesn't it seem that the numbers are more than just a bit off?
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One would have to separate the "died with covid" as versus "died from covid"
 
NoDandy

NoDandy

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Another thought. From the beginning, all of a sudden, no more deaths from cancer, heart disease, kidney failure, or many other diseases. They way it has been portrayed, one would expect to see people falling over dead everywhere, bodies should be piling up on the streets. just like movies of Europe during the bubonic plague, with workers walking around in haz mat suits. Yet I have not seen, or heard of such. If it were so, one would think it would be on full display in the media.

Yet, it is not. Wonder why ?

To me, something is not adding up. 2+2 does not add up to 4 in this mess. My opinion may not be " scientific ", but common sense tells me something is off !

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glennb6

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geez louise!

worldwide dead since beginning is 4,646,768 divide into 7.8 Billion people is 0.06% cumulative rate. Annualized would be 0.036% Tiny numbers all around.
worldwide current active infections 1.87 million divided int 7.8 Billion is 0.24% infected or 99.75% of the world not infected.

ussa 677,988 dead divided into 330M = 0.2% cumulative or 0.12% annualized.
ussa 9.3 million currently infected divided into 330M = 2.8% infected or 97.2% not infected
(and if anyone believes these numbers from the ussa are not faked, scammed, fabricated and hugely inflated, I have a bridge in Brooklyn available for you on the cheap!)
(and the world numbers are over inflated if nothing else by the heavily inflated ussa numbers, and very likely many other western countries)
(oh, and the WHO says 99.5% of the 1.87 million current cases are in mild conditions, which would include asymptomatic/not sick)

www.worldometers.info

Coronavirus Update (Live): 127,455,505 Cases and 2,791,707 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - Worldometer

Live statistics and coronavirus news tracking the number of confirmed cases, recovered patients, tests, and death toll due to the COVID-19 coronavirus from Wuhan, China. Coronavirus counter with new cases, deaths, and number of tests per 1 Million population. Historical data and info. Daily...
www.worldometers.info www.worldometers.info
 
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glennb6

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Papa said:
One would have to separate the "died with covid" as versus "died from covid"
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as an aside, in my neck of the world the Ministry of Public Health daily reports state that 89% of all CV deaths were primarily due to other/multiple other more serious conditions.

If you're bored an want to poke at numbers, go to CORONARY HEART DISEASE DEATH RATE BY COUNTRY
Choose an affliction and click on a country. Shows the estimated annual fatality rate and easy to calculate the numbers. CV is a nothing burger compared to so many other diseases and illnesses that kill 10-35 TIMES as many.
 
Jeanmar53

Jeanmar53

Senior Member
Math is hard this time of night. Here's my stab at it.

(dead) 4,620,066 = ( not dead but infected) x
which is .01 of population (1%) which is .99 (99% of population)

4,620,066 x .99 = .01(x)

4,573,865.34 = .01(x)

x = 457,386,534 (population which is infected but not dead)

I think you got lost with the decimals. I could have gotten lost, too.

Who else will take a stab at it at 2321 hours? :D

Brain Pain....it's obvious I don't know how to add a quote....I'll get there.
 
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Profit of Doom

Dismember
Luddite said:
How many have had it but chose not to get tested, for a myriad of reasons?

The global number of infected is much higher.

I know I sound like a broken record but 3rd world deaths give a better idea of the true progression.
Of course those may be skewed by ivermectin or HCQ usage.

Sorry to bring up this inconvenient possibility again, but no family advocates are there in the hospitals or nursing homes. Are even a fraction of patients getting triaged unnecessarily into the after-life?

We just heard last night a local hospital was pushing end-of-life paperwork at a family from church a few weeks ago. One doctor whispered to the patient "I can give you one shot for ALL THIS to go away". Patient responded "My God will decide that".

They went to another hospital and got the heart valve work done. Patient recovering at home already.
(This anecdote wasn't covid related, on the surface)
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Vaccine or hospice happy juice?
 
pinkelsteinsmom

pinkelsteinsmom

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glennb6 said:
geez louise!

worldwide dead since beginning is 4,646,768 divide into 7.8 Billion people is 0.06% cumulative rate. Annualized would be 0.036% Tiny numbers all around.
worldwide current active infections 1.87 million divided int 7.8 Billion is 0.24% infected or 99.75% of the world not infected.

ussa 677,988 dead divided into 330M = 0.2% cumulative or 0.12% annualized.
ussa 9.3 million currently infected divided into 330M = 2.8% infected or 97.2% not infected
(and if anyone believes these numbers from the ussa are not faked, scammed, fabricated and hugely inflated, I have a bridge in Brooklyn available for you on the cheap!)
(and the world numbers are over inflated if nothing else by the heavily inflated ussa numbers, and very likely many other western countries)
(oh, and the WHO says 99.5% of the 1.87 million current cases are in mild conditions, which would include asymptomatic/not sick)

www.worldometers.info

Coronavirus Update (Live): 127,455,505 Cases and 2,791,707 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - Worldometer

Live statistics and coronavirus news tracking the number of confirmed cases, recovered patients, tests, and death toll due to the COVID-19 coronavirus from Wuhan, China. Coronavirus counter with new cases, deaths, and number of tests per 1 Million population. Historical data and info. Daily...
www.worldometers.info www.worldometers.info
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Curious, what was the yearly death toll for Flu last year?
 
Walrus Whisperer

Walrus Whisperer

Hope in chains...
I'm going to relate something here, I was there. A few years ago, my sis & Bil charged me to be a Helper for his mother. I was to be in there at least once a day, making sure his mom was being taken care of at a nursing home. These were 5000$ a month rooms. I brought her her sodas she liked, snacks, I would show up at all hours if the day, including middle of the nite.

She was very skinny and frail, her mind had never been anything but VERY canny and sly.
She never liked anyone, was "off" but extremely with it in her own way. At least once a year, I'd show up and find that she'd fallen out of bed. No telling how long she'd been there on the floor. The people knew she was there, "oh we don't have enough people to get her up" bullshite. I laid into them like the beast I was, get her up now or I'm calling the nursing home director and her son, and you all gonna be fired.

Despite her irascibility, I loved taking care of her. I don't think she ever said 3 or 4 words to me in a month. Mostly a grunt, if she felt like it. She resented being there, I knew that. I would, too. I pray that my Master just takes me mid stride so it's not long and lingering.

Anyway, it became obvious the end was quite near. She was near comotose, but would wake up, took about a week. The day came when she was completely unresponsive. This is when I discovered the liberal use of liquid morphine in the old folks. She was literally dosed just as she was taking her last breath. I am still mad about it. They dose them liberally up to their last breath. I pray my Master just cuts my string when I'm in with the chickens, let me feed them until I'm found, all pecked over and was happy till my last second.

I helped wash her body and dressed her in her black dress, and the guys came to take her away. It was an honor to serve her.
 
Tristan

Tristan

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Trying to derive results from munged data is a waste of time.

GIGO - Garbage In, Garbage Out.

There are innumerable reasons why the data is inaccurate, many if not all documented in the various threads on the subject.

For example define 'Case'. Is the definition the same amongst different reporting agencies? etc. etc. and etc.

Seriously, you're not going to find what you're looking for.

But I completely understand why you're trying to find it...

eta: glad to see so many 'get it'. And, I'm not beatin' up on you, daylate; it's just annoying to the extreme that the organizations paid so much to get it right, seem so hell bent on getting it wrong.
 
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Meadowlark

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Even the cdc numbers show the death rate is less than one percent. This is not a lethal pandemic by any means. It never was. The regular flue season kills as many in a typical year.
 
WTSR

WTSR

Veteran Member
Fauci's cronies in the USA medical system is DEAD LAST in total deaths from COVID.

India healthcare system is 4 times better at preventing death from COVID.

By the Numbers.
 
Ku Commando

Ku Commando

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Pinecone said:
Hmm. Math is hard this time of night. Here's my stab at it.

(dead) 4,620,066 = ( not dead but infected) x
which is .01 of population (1%) which is .99 (99% of population)

4,620,066 x .99 = .01(x)

4,573,865.34 = .01(x)

x = 457,386,534 (population which is infected but not dead)

I think you got lost with the decimals. I could have gotten lost, too.

Who else will take a stab at it at 2321 hours? :D
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Correct



Profit of Doom said:
Add 00.
462,006,600~
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Correct -- EASY PEASY !!


The lesson here ???? 460 million = 7.8 billion according to the script-writers......


hunybee said:
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Good one hunybee !!

I counter with..... [ which has nothing to do with covid, vaxxed, jab, dead, etc ]

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day late

day late

money? whats that?
day late said:
According the info I just looked up as of 09/09/21 4,620,066 people have died from the virus. No I'm not counting vax deaths. Now when this whole thing started it was said that for the world population as a whole the survival rate was over 99%. Also most people would either be asymptomatic or have mild symptoms. So that would have to mean (if my math is correct, which it most likely isn't) the total number of infections would have to be in excess of 457,000,000,000. Now, since the current world population is 7,789,079,600+ and rising constantly, doesn't it seem that the numbers are more than just a bit off?
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Well, I did say that my math isn't so good. After thinking about it and re-reading what I wrote I realized my boo-boo. If 4,600,000+ people have died from the virus and they are the unfortunate 1%, then that would mean the total number of infected would only be 4,600,000,000 people. In turn that means that of the world wide population who have been infected are 4/7ths of the population. To me that raises the questions of when do we reach this so called herd immunity, and secondly if we have that many immune, why are so many vaxed people back in the hospital with the so called Delta virus? These numbers just don't add up to me.
 
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