GOV/MIL "There's Poop Everywhere": San Francisco's Office District Not Only A Ghost Town, It's Also Covered In Sh*t

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
Apparently, the situation only gets worse in San Francisco.

Fair use cited so on and so forth.


"There's Poop Everywhere": San Francisco's Office District Not Only A Ghost Town, It's Also Covered In Sh*t​


by Tyler Durden
Thursday, May 25, 2023 - 06:22 AM

Everyone knows that San Francisco is the nation's largest public toilet - requiring the city to employ six-figure 'poop patrol' cleanup team, however a new report from the city Controller's Office really puts things in poo-spective.


For starters, feces were found far more often in commercial sectors, covering "approximately 50% of street segments in Key Commercial Areas and 30% in the Citywide survey," second only to broken glass as can be seen in the 'illegal dumping' section.

If you're wondering about the city's fecal methodology, look no further than a footnote on page 43;
Feces also includes bags filled with feces that are not inside trash receptacles. Feces that are spread or smeared on the street, sidewalk, or other objects along the evaluation route are counted. Stains that appear to be related to feces but have been cleaned are not counted. Bird droppings are excluded.
As far as where most of the poo is found, Nob Hill takes the top spot, followed by the Tenderloin and The Mission districts.
Via the San Francisco Standard
"It’s terrible; this street is covered," Tenderloin resident Joe Souza told The San Francisco Standard earlier this month. "There’s poop everywhere. You always see it along the wall and in front of the garage there."

Meanwhile, nearly 2/3 of key commercial routes reported moderate to severe street litter, vs. 41% of the citywide streets struggling with the same problem.
Via the San Francisco Standard

As the San Francisco Standard reports;

San Francisco’s commercial and residential streets are also highly tagged up, with every neighborhood except one—Visitacion Valley—reporting high levels of graffiti last year. The issue is once again worse in commercial areas, of which 71% said they had severe or moderate graffiti.

“In terms of actual counts of graffiti observed, there were about 10 times (160,000 vs. 16,000 respectively) as many instances of graffiti reported in the Key Commercial Areas survey in comparison to the Citywide sample,” the report said.

And San Francisco’s favorite cleanliness fixation, human or animal feces, continues to be a sore spot for the city: Almost half of the surveyed commercial areas observed feces. Citywide, that figure was just 30%.
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San Francisco's poopocalypse comes amid a staggering commercial office vacancy rate as a combination of pandemic-era work-from-home policies, and people fleeing the city's notorious violence and poo-covered streets have made the once-thriving city into a ghost town.
Same
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Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
Oh let's drag out the old reliable poop map.

There ya go !!

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Griz3752

Retired, practising Curmudgeon
There are serious health hazards that come with this like human poo will break down to a dust and become airborne in the wind.
Granted.

I'm curious to know what it cost SF to inventory these 'poop' incidents/sites. Not including the 6-0figure poop collectors of course.
 

energy_wave

Has No Life - Lives on TB

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Illini Warrior

Illini Warrior
when they started water blasting the toilet areas of the homeless encampments - whole new problem - all that crap & related went to the street storm sewers - it created a storm water release problem - there wasn't full treatment plants attached - just catchments of trash and common street items - the fecal matter count was off the scale and not able to be freely released as rain runoff ....
 

naegling62

Veteran Member
It's pretty bad when folks in Mississippi and Alabama are embarrassed over the conditions in that city. Or are we? Maybe it brings a smile to us Southerners over their plight. What would our ladies say? Oh yeah, bless their hearts, they don't know how or where to sh#@!
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
There are two problems:

One is the homeless numbers, thousands of people living on the streets, and a few hundred shelter beds at most. Most people don't like to stay in shelters because, generally, they are poorly "policed" and can be more dangerous (especially for women) than sleeping in a tent with a dog.

Two. Starting around 1991, all the local businesses, with good reasons, started having out-of-order signs on all the bathrooms. I do mean all the bathrooms.

They did this, including in the BART stations (usually broken), because people were shooting up inside, pooping on the floors, and even having sex in them. I do not blame the merchants.

There was no place to do business if you were in that area. Suppose I had not had a Federal Employee card before 9/11 when that was all you needed to get in. I would have had an "accident" when I became ill on a BART train on a Sunday. As it was, I just managed to get into the building, where the friendly security guard waved to me, and I found the nearest facilities. This was not a "voluntary" situation, I was suddenly taken ill.

As far as I know, there are still no places for people to relieve themselves. I know public toilets were experimented with after I left. One or two, but I don't know how that worked out.

But human beings will need to go to the bathroom. It isn't an option, and it will happen. In the old days of organized and smaller encampments, a place away from everyone was usually designated to do this. Downtown, it was "behind" a particular statue. It wasn't permitted to dig latrines, though I suspect some of the old veterans thought about it in their more sober moments.

So unless you can move the people somewhere with toilets and make sure they use them, this problem will never be solved. Just moving people only move the mess. As I mentioned in my other thread, bulldozing the UN Plaza moved the problem to Golden Gate Park and the businesses in that area.

I have no good or easy solution, but doing nothing is not resulting in a good outcome.
 

Outlaw-16

Contributing Member
Think there was an article on here about how cruise ships lines who have terminals and parking garages on san francisco complained to the city that the city would need to clean out the homeless for several blocks around those terminals or the cruise lines would move their business somewhere else. Makes sense. Maybe if that happened, those few blocks around the those terminals are probably the cleanest in the entire city.

Related to pressure washing the streets, Seattle, that sparkling emerald, more like poo and pee infested urinal by Puget Sound much like scat francisco, also had a similar meeting about pressure washing the waste off the streets. One city council member, a black woman, actually stated that to do so was reminiscent of the civil rights riots where fire hoses were used to push back the blacks. Most of us with a functioning brain took a step back on that statement and had to wonder if the council member was equating human feces on the sidewalks of seattle with black people. Yeah, wtf? was all that about?
 

zeker

Has No Life - Lives on TB
There are two problems:

One is the homeless numbers, thousands of people living on the streets, and a few hundred shelter beds at most. Most people don't like to stay in shelters because, generally, they are poorly "policed" and can be more dangerous (especially for women) than sleeping in a tent with a dog.

Two. Starting around 1991, all the local businesses, with good reasons, started having out-of-order signs on all the bathrooms. I do mean all the bathrooms.

They did this, including in the BART stations (usually broken), because people were shooting up inside, pooping on the floors, and even having sex in them. I do not blame the merchants.

There was no place to do business if you were in that area. Suppose I had not had a Federal Employee card before 9/11 when that was all you needed to get in. I would have had an "accident" when I became ill on a BART train on a Sunday. As it was, I just managed to get into the building, where the friendly security guard waved to me, and I found the nearest facilities. This was not a "voluntary" situation, I was suddenly taken ill.
I was once at the public docks in Prince Rupert BC.

all of a sudden I had 'The urge"

no holding back.

there were no public washrooms or outhouses available

I burst into the dept of fisheries and oceans, office.

told the fella that I "really' needed to go.

he was very accomodating and I did my deed.

aside from dropping a duice on the sidewalk, I had no choice.

it was imminent

afterwards I thought

whats the problem

this is a gov agency

paid for, by the taxpayers.

I should not hafta beg to use their/my, fascilities.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
San Francisco having issues…
Couldn’t happen to a nicer group of people.
Well, if things get terrible as they did during the Great Depression with huge numbers of homeless and unemployed people camping in your nearest town or city, they may end up looking like that too eventually. Or they can run them out of town "on a rail," but then you get the giant camps described by Old As Dirt in the National Forests. She said many people died there, and they were not exactly sanitary.

I suspect that wouldn't be allowed today, or at least it wouldn't stay hidden with modern technology. And yes, in any of these places, including San Francisco, the Skid Row that is now most of Downtown Los Angeles (and other major cities), or a giant homeless camp full of starving people in the national forest, an epidemic can start. And no, depending on what it is, it won't necessarily stay there.

Many of the late 19th and early 20th-century public health laws and even attempts at welfare came about because it turned out diseases may start in the poor section of town, especially if there are open sewers (or none at all), little clean water, and people packed together too closely. But many diseases can then move on into the "nice" parts of town. Not all of them but many will.

If you want SERIOUS doom porn, be aware that vast parts of the United States, especially in the West and not just in California, have vectors of Yrsnina Pestus (Black Death) circulating among some animal populations. This is especially true near wilderness areas or campgrounds.

Sure, it can be treated with antibiotics. Still, Nighwolf assured me that there wasn't enough of the proper antibiotics anywhere in the US (or anywhere else) that could effectively contain a huge outbreak if it seemed to happen all at once.

It could, especially if people are shoved off to tents in the national forests. But it could still happen even in urban centers, especially in dryer climates. Dysentery or other sanitation diseases are more likely, but bad things will likely happen once you get the fleas in an area that already has the Black Death in circulation. And it wouldn't just be the homeless that would start to die.

In his Change Series, SM Sterling depopulates most of the California West Coast with such an outbreak after the power no longer works and civilization shuts down. That idea is based on a reality that COULD happen. It probably won't, but thousands of dirty, flea-infested people with no access to sanitation make it more likely.
 
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