CHAT The rise of the involuntary celibate (Incel)

packyderms_wife

packyderms_wife

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Melodi said:
And both former "Mr. Hot Stuff" and "Mr. Nobody Lubs Me," can end up angry, divorced and miserable if they are unlucky enough to actually "catch" one of the more vapid young women (beautiful women can be wonderful people, but you know the type I mean) and then are surprised when they get taken to the cleaners, lose the kids and yes, are often unfairly treated by the courts and bankrupted.
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I know of someone who was hot, hot, hot, and burned through a lot of broads and his parent's money because he knew he could get away with it... finally got one knocked up and had to marry her, decided to trade her in for a younger model five years later. Well it turns out the judge was someone he bullied the hell out of back in high school and lets just say he paid through the nose for that one. She got everything and I mean everything! Even his parents turned their backs on him claiming they loved the ex-wife and grandkid more than they loved him. Once he no longer had access to mommy and daddy's money none of the pretty girls wanted to have anything to do with him anymore.
 
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Luddite

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Incels are getting WAY too much attention, imo.

Unreasonable expectations by either sex can lead to trouble. The porn star enigma is as elusive as bigfoot. And probably smells as bad as bigfoot after a wild night and 8 hours sleep.

Being honest with yourself and being nice opens up all kinds of possibilities with decent people. I know first-hand that your datebook can stay filled if you use common sense. Pursuing an "8" or a "9" on the outside is just plain insane. A small percentage of high maintenance 8s are STILL insecure and too much work. The others are too busy lookin' in the mirror for anything else.

A nine on the inside is obtainable if an incel looks. Culling a few is part of the search.

I think the incels look for any external excuse ignoring their own malfunctions. AND, neither insecurity nor arrogance are appealing.
 
packyderms_wife

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Luddite said:
Incels are getting WAY too much attention, imo.

Unreasonable expectations by either sex can lead to trouble. The porn star enigma is as elusive as bigfoot. And probably smells as bad as bigfoot after a wild night and 8 hours sleep.

Being honest with yourself and being nice opens up all kinds of possibilities with decent people. I know first-hand that your datebook can stay filled if you use common sense. Pursuing an "8" or a "9" on the outside is just plain insane. A small percentage of high maintenance 8s are STILL insecure and too much work. The others are too busy lookin' in the mirror for anything else.

A nine on the inside is obtainable if an incel looks. Culling a few is part of the search.

I think the incels look for any external excuse ignoring their own malfunctions. AND, neither insecurity nor arrogance are appealing.
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I dated a nine, and yes to the insecurity and always looking elsewhere and in the mirror. He went on to father some 49 children and refers to himself as a breeder, and yes he's white.
 
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JeanCat

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packyderms_wife said:
Well we all had that one "uncle" that everyone made fun of when he wasn't around, and yes he was an incel. Troke just thinks it's a new thing when in fact it's not. Radar on MASH, typical incel. What's his nuts that played the deputy on the Mayberry show, incel, so on and so forth. They've always been there, it's nothing new other than they can now gather together on facebook or fetlife and bitch because some gorgeous hot babe won't have anything to do with them.
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You are wrong about Barney fife he had a bad reputation and was quite a ladies man behind the scenes
 
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Troke

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packyderms_wife said:
Well we all had that one "uncle" that everyone made fun of when he wasn't around, and yes he was an incel. Troke just thinks it's a new thing when in fact it's not. Radar on MASH, typical incel. What's his nuts that played the deputy on the Mayberry show, incel, so on and so forth. They've always been there, it's nothing new other than they can now gather together on facebook or fetlife and bitch because some gorgeous hot babe won't have anything to do with them.
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"...Troke just thinks it's a new thing when in fact it's not......"

Been around since the Dawn of Time (Metaphor there) but just now being recognized with a name?

Interesting.
 
packyderms_wife

packyderms_wife

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Troke said:
"...Troke just thinks it's a new thing when in fact it's not......"

Been around since the Dawn of Time (Metaphor there) but just now being recognized with a name?

Interesting.
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If it doesn't have a name it can't be studied... and IIRC the US Air Force got a 13 million dollar grant to do just that, study incels. There was an article here on TBK last year, do a search for the thread here.
 
packyderms_wife

packyderms_wife

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Double_A said:
Wait I thought an Incel has to be by definition "Involuntary"
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They think they're involuntary but by their own actions, attitudes, and behavior they become voluntary. Sorry not sorry but if your a two you're not going to get a ten. Period. I'd say I'm a two, but OC saw the 8 inside of me. Life is cruel sometimes. The 9 I dated years ago was exactly as Melodi described he was looking for a broodmare that would throw him kids and do housework and provide meals and nothing else. Surprise surprise he's been married seven times now, and I'm on my first marriage, almost 20 years in now.
 
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WalknTrot

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Have to say...I don't get it either.

This HAS been going on since time began...the boys chasing tail and coming up short.
The oldest story on the planet. :shr:

Chalking it up to a couple generations of incessant whiners.
Pro-tip guys: Not a good look.
 
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summerthyme

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WalknTrot said:
Have to say...I don't get it either.

This HAS been going on since time began...the boys chasing tail and coming up short.
The oldest story on the planet. :shr:

Chalking it up to a couple of generations of incessant whiners.
Pro-tip boys: Not a good look.
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Yeah, but they are believing the hype pushed constantly in every form of media that *everyone except them* is getting all the sex they want...

A huge problem is the readily available porn that creates and fosters hugely unrealistic expectations in everything from appearance, level of desire, willingness to engage in any and every possible variation...

And I agree, whining "its not fair" is never attractive, no matter who is doing the whining.

Summerthyme
 
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Faroe

Un-spun
Peterson is NOT perfect. Nevertheless, he has done a tremendous amount of good for may younger men in the West. Get your head out of your ass....basically. His series on Maps of Meaning is fascinating. I also like his carnivore interviews.

I figure that once someone has gone far enough along with him to start strenuously disagreeing....by then they can articulate where, exactly he falls sadly short. It's all good - maybe he'll come around eventually. (He has also had some horrendous health issues, hope he gets better.)
 
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