Herbal Summerthyme: Question about "the recipe"

broomrider

Bitter gun owner.
I'm wanting to try your recipe for my back. I'm tired of using all the NSAIDs, they are horrible for my severe ulcerative colitis and ulcers. In the thread you advised you used fresh herbs for your tincture. I have no idea where to get those here this time of year, would it work with dried herbs?

And how long should I let it steep to get the full effect?

Thanks,
br aka Karen
 
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summerthyme

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Dry herbs work fine. If you use dry herbs, use a lower proof vodka or whatever and use it.

I steep tinctures at least a month, but in an emergency you can sometimes start dipping in after 2 weeks or so... it won't be the full strength, but it might help.

This is more of a muscle relaxant than anything... if NSAIDS have actually helped your pain (aside from the side effect issues) I wonder if you woul be able to take curcumin? It's a potent NSAID like Vioxx or Celebrex, but it has few side effects. It can be a mild blood thinner, and if you take extra large doses you may notice an effect at the other end of the alimentary tract. (irritation and burning)

I also wonder if you've tried licorice root powder? If not, look into it. It might be a big help for your stomach issues.

Summerthyme
 

moldy

Veteran Member
I prefer to make and grow my own supplements, if possible (no worrying about where they came from that way). Can you buy tumeric root, grate it, and make a tincture that way?

Thank you summerthyme for all your advice with herbals.
 

Babs

Veteran Member
Dry herbs work fine. If you use dry herbs, use a lower proof vodka or whatever and use it.

I steep tinctures at least a month, but in an emergency you can sometimes start dipping in after 2 weeks or so... it won't be the full strength, but it might help.

This is more of a muscle relaxant than anything... if NSAIDS have actually helped your pain (aside from the side effect issues) I wonder if you woul be able to take curcumin? It's a potent NSAID like Vioxx or Celebrex, but it has few side effects. It can be a mild blood thinner, and if you take extra large doses you may notice an effect at the other end of the alimentary tract. (irritation and burning)

I also wonder if you've tried licorice root powder? If not, look into it. It might be a big help for your stomach issues.

Summerthyme

Slippery Elm is also excellent for stomach issues. It has been a life saver for me.
 

Emilys

Contributing Member
Summerthyme, do you know what the ratio of alcohol to DRIED herbs would be?

Thanks for the information, great stuff!
Emily
 

summerthyme

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Moldy- while you CAN use dried turmeric root powder, and it will be effective for some things, for potent NSAID action, you really need to take a commercial curcumin extract, plus piperine (A black pepper extract which I have made at home, just to say I did... lol)

It's one of the few herbs that I recommend in an extract form. (Gingko biloba and milk thistle are the other two I remember offhand)

Even so, I always take a preparation that is 95% curcumin, and 5% whole turmeric root, to make sure I'm getting all the phytochemicals God designed in the plant.

When I make the recipe with fresh herbs, I just stuff a gallon jar full of fresh leaves and tops, about half and half peppermint and lemon balm, and then fill the jar with 100 proof vodka until everything is fully covered.

For dry leaves, I'd try the 1:5 ratio by volume: 1 cup of dry leaves, 5 cups of 80 proof vodka (the lower proof means more water content. The fresh leaves, of course, are about 80% water, so I use the higher proof vodka to be sure it will keep well. But 80 proof is fine for dry leaves)

Summerthyme

On licorice root, just be aware that it can be a *potent* medicinal, and that folks with high blood pressure or kidney issues need to be very careful with it. Taking 2-4 capsules of whole root daily (or 1/4 tsp tincture, 2x daily) is likely to be fine for anyone not in actual renal failure or having uncontrolled HBP issues. But if taking it for gastritis or stomach pain, take it for a max of two weeks, then reassess. If your pain is improving, but not completely gone, continue for another week, but monitor your blood pressure, and watch for any signs of water retention. If either one starts causing problems, discontinue the licorice.
 

Emilys

Contributing Member
Thank you, Summerthyme. I will order the herbs tomorrow.

You stated this recipe is more of a muscle relaxant. I've been having terrible pain around the jaw and am noticing I am clenching a lot. It's also causing me headaches. I notice that when I really really try to relax the muscles in my face, it goes away, but I can't keep that up all day. :) The pain starts at night and is still there in the morning. Here's to hoping it works!
 

Emilys

Contributing Member
Received "the recipe" herbs today and my tincture is tincturing somewhere dark. Thanks again!

I'm also making a 'sleepytime syrup' with the lemon balm. Here's hoping for a better night's rest.
 
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