WEATHER Strongest Jet Stream Ever Recorded To Bring Two Super Storms To United Kingdom Region This

Melodi

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OK this one is bad enough and strange enough I'm starting a thread for it - the strongest jet stream every recorded is set to bring two severe storms to the UK and Ireland with possible tornadoes in Ireland for Friday! - Melodi

http://www.theweatherspace.com/2013...this-week-with-possible-tornadoes-in-ireland/

Strongest Jet Stream Ever Recorded To Bring Two Super Storms To United Kingdom Region This Week With Possible Tornadoes In Ireland
December 22, 2013 | Posted by Senior Meteorologist | 0 comments

(TheWeatherSpace.com) – A massive storm system is moving out of the United States today, which went through Canada yesterday … carries with it the strongest jet stream now ever recorded that will cause two super storms in the United Kingdom region this week.

122213aAs if engineered, this never before seen jet stream of 275 mph in the upper levels is exiting Canada. This jet stream will move across the Northern Atlantic and deepen a surface low that is only 1004mb at this moment. This jet stream will act as a vacuum, sucking the air from the center of the storm and dropping the pressure within it to an impressive 930mb low. This is a pressure fall over over 50mb by Tuesday morning for the United Kingdom region. It will cause problems, with the initial concern will be the amount of rain for Wales, Central and Southern England where 20-40mm of rainfall will fall. Double that over the hills. The rain will fall on already saturated ground which will lead to flooding.

Very windy on Monday with the system, about 70 mph gusts likely in the South. On Christmas Eve expect 70-80 mph wind gusts in Northern Ireland and Western Scotland … with heavy snow in the Scottish Mountains. Weakening winds across Northern Scotland on Christmas day with winds relaxing … for the most part it looks nice on Christmas.

But we’re not done yet. This powerful jet will deepen yet another low pressure system on Friday and this warm front will sweep across Ireland with tornadic dynamics. It’s very likely that with this surface low being much further south than the first one that shear and warm air advection through Ireland will cause a tornado scenario there so be exceptionally alert.
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Melodi

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Seabird said:
Wow, Melodi! Batten down the hatches! That looks like the hurricanes here. Worse even!
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I agree, and this week has already been no picnic - our house was fine, except for the loss of the phones and the internet - but next door our neighbor lost about 10 trees, half her roof slates and had damage to a guest's car. 10,000 people were without power this morning due to lightning strikes and high winds, about 4,000 the night before - there are already emergency orders in place to require the electrical folks to work Christmas Eve - of course it is part of their contract in an emergency it is just this time they have enough warning to actually set up a roster so hopefully workers can take turns with a bit of time with their families.

My major concerns here are the old trees that have now already been partially pulled up by the roots from the earlier storms, thankfully none are too close to the house; we have one that is already nearly sideways on the old path to the graveyard. It has been like this for several years but we have not been able to get anyone to take it out because it is leaning the wrong way, at least there are no cattle in the next field this time of year so if it falls it will only take out part of the neighbor's fence.

I am also concerned about our roof and any long term power outages - we can't use our kitchen turf stove because the chimney got clogged and with the weather we can't have it cleaned until things settle - we can use the back up stove in the drawing room so if we need to we can all pile in there, heat water, cook on the inside grill and sleep on the sofa and chairs. It may not be comfortable, but the cats that are living in there for the Winter will adore us...

At least husband is home for the next two weeks...

Unless the Cell towers go down I will have g-mail, but probably not the net...
 
Melodi

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packyderms_wife said:
didn't this happen about 10-11 years ago before the sun went into slumber mode?

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Yes, actually the ones I remember the best were the two storms (one Christmas Day, the other St. Stephan's Day - the day after Christmas Day and a Holiday here) that happened the first year and I believe the 3rd year we were here (so about 16 and 14 years ago more or less).

The first storm had 90 mph winds, and is most memorable to me both for the 4 days and nights we were without power (and I learned just why traditional knitting patterns have strongly contrasting colors you can see by lantern light) and the fact that the one tree that could have fallen into the house fell the other way.

Also, we had the Christmas Ham and ate off it for four days...

The second storm took off the conservatory roof and flung everything in the yard all over the place, and it took down three trees in the woods but not next to the house - it also took down a tree across the road way so we were stuck in the house for about a week.

After that, things got quieter, we still have "windy Winters" about once every three to five years, usually in January and Feb; sometimes the winds lasting for days but usually more like 40 to 60 mph (often less but it just seems like more) as we have deeply dark days (I remember one where the power went and it took 5 lanterns at noon to read a book by) and winds that just never really stop. But it is much rarer to get this 70 to 100 mph winds, especially more than once in a Season and away from the Coast.

Now in the early 14th century when the sunspots dropped, the weather became so cold, stormy ridden and scary that people though that God had left the Earth (I am serious) and this was BEFORE The Black Death in the 1340's but earlier in the century like the 1320's. The endless storms and weather related famines were so horrific that people were terrified the world would soon end, millions died before the Black Plague ever reached Europe and their resistance was lowered from two generations of weather related starvation and poverty brought about the growing severe Winters and the crop destroying storms though out the year.

That is what this is just starting to remind me of, not just here but throughout Europe as well...North America too, except of course it isn't in the 14th century European records; Greenland is, the last days of the colony as it too was probably destroyed (or at least the Europeans mostly left) due to the weather changes of the Little Ice Age that came on.
 
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Melodi

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So far, so good right here - storm may get worse tonight but the strongest winds are supposed to be over Northern Ireland, my friends in the North and in the UK report things like trash barrels blowing over, nasty trips to the local stop to get last minute items, some local flooding and most the high winds.

5,500 people are still without phones and internet in Ireland from the last storm but most of yesterdays total of 12,000 people have been reconnected to the internet. We are thought to be getting winds no higher than 50mph right here but it will gust to 90 on the coasts of Ireland and be stronger in the UK.

But Friday's Storms are currently expected to hit further South and smack us a good one (I hope not but that is the forecast) and we have to stay vigilant even now because of the threat of localized small tornadoes, hail, thunder etc. Right now it is eking up over 50 degrees after going down below freezing at night - which means I'm going to take a bath because the house is warmer but also means more cold and warm clashing fronts are likely.

Christmas Day is supposed to be the calmest of the week but tomorrow is set to be a mess in the UK and still cause travel issues here in Ireland - so far today one person went off a small cliff (was unhurt) by a powerful hail storm, another car had a man drowned and his wife injured when their car was blown into a lake.

But again, so far we are fine, my husband and my house-mate are home all this week (her company was one that just closed for the holiday week) the real concerns are people trying to travel because even here that isn't fun.

Will keep people posted as a can...
 
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Wind just starting to pick up here, weather service is saying that the storms course is "uncertain" but that the winds should get worse after sundown which is about now..
 
Melodi

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A major bridge has been closed in London on the M25 making it hard for anyone to get North of the London, bridge not expected to reopen before 4am this morning, if then. Trains are already having delays and problems, flooding on moterways (freeways) some places banning larger trucks and other places drivers being told to stay put rather than continue on - this is all in England and Wales - Northern Ireland and some of the Republic due to get worse later tonight - DC



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Rain and gales disrupt Christmas travel
Hundreds of homes without power in Cornwall, flood warnings in place and rail operators advise passengers to travel early


Josh Halliday
theguardian.com, Monday 23 December 2013 16.49 GMT

Rain in London
Shoppers shelter under umbrellas on Oxford Street in London. Photograph: Gail Orenstein/NurPhoto/Corbis

Torrential rain and strong gales have struck most of Britain, leaving hundreds of homes without power in Cornwall and causing travel disruption at the height of the Christmas getaway.

Flood warnings were in place in five regions across England and forecasters warned festive travellers to brace themselves for the worst of the storm on Monday afternoon.

The south coast was battered by severe gales at dawn on Monday, bringing down overhead power lines and leaving 800 homes without electricity.

Emma Compton, a Met Office forecaster, warned of severe disruption to transport throughout the day. "By lunchtime it will be everywhere," she said. "It's going to be fairly persistent."

Rail operators across England advised passengers to travel as early as possible or delay their plans until Christmas Eve to avoid severe delays.

Network Rail said speed restrictions were likely on some routes. Greater Anglia Trains cancelled more than 50 services scheduled to run later on Monday, including all but three from 5pm onwards.

Police said that they had retrieved the body of a man from the Rothay River in Cumbria after he fell in earlier this afternoon.

Cumbria Police said in a statement: "Cumbria Police can confirm that unfortunately, a body of a man has been found in Rothay River at 3.30pm after an extensive search involving Police, Fire, Ambulance, Lake Wardens, Coastguard, Langdale Mountain rescue and RAF Rescue.

"The man was pronounced dead at the scene and Officers are now working to identify the man and inform his next of kin."

Chris Burton, a MeteoGroup forecaster, offered a glimmer of positive news by saying the rain and windy weather should clear up by Christmas Eve morning.

"The rain is going to be heaviest and most persistent across southern areas of England, the Midlands and Wales, with up to 2ins (50mm) of rain falling," he said. "Strong winds will continue throughout today, with gusts of 60mph across England and Wales, Northern Ireland and western Scotland. But by first thing tomorrow morning the weather should have turned a bit less wet and windy."

Motorists in high-sided vehicles, including caravans, were urged to check for weather warnings before they travel as a number of bridges were closed as a precaution. Essex police closed the Queen Elizabeth II bridge in Dartford from noon, saying it was expected to reopen at 4am on Tuesday.

On Sunday a motorist died after his vehicle was involved in a three-car pile-up near Bodmin, in Cornwall, which police said may have been caused by a severe hailstorm.

Sergeant Olly Tayler, the senior investigating officer, urged motorists to beware of the "horrendous" weather conditions. "The investigation into what caused the collision continues but one line of inquiry is that there was an unexpected exceptional weather event that happened at the time of the collisions in the form of a hail storm," he said.

Three of the Environment Agency's flood warnings issued on Monday were in south-west England, along with 40 less serious flood alerts. Other flood warnings were issued in the north-west and north-east.
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And the latest from RTE (Ireland National Broadcaster)

Severe weather likely to disrupt Christmas travel
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Motorists are being advised to exercise caution amid the Christmas travel rush, as Met Éireann has issued an Orange wind warning for this evening and tonight.

Winds of up to 130km/h are forecast, with the strongest winds expected in western and northern coastal counties.

The Road Safety Authority has issued an appeal for motorists to slow down.

It has advised all road users to check local weather and traffic reports before planning a journey.

AA Roadwatch has advised motorists to slow down, take extreme care and watch out for debris.

Meanwhile, Irish Ferries has cancelled a number of its Jonathan Swift Fast Ferry sailings between Dublin and Holyhead this evening and tomorrow due to adverse conditions on the Irish Sea.

The 8.15am sailing from Dublin to Holyhead tomorrow and the 11.50am from Holyhead to Dublin have been cancelled.

Passengers will be accommodated on cruise services.

Met Éireann is forecasting that the situation will deteriorate further.

Iarnród Éireann has said it expects up to 400,000 Intercity journeys to be made across the network over the Christmas and New Year holiday period.

The company is advising customers to book online at www.irishrail.ie if possible, and to allow extra time at stations in major cities.

Full schedule information for the holiday period is available on the company's website.

Meanwhile, the ESB has said it has plans in place to deal with any power outages caused by stormy weather over Christmas.

Speaking on RTÉ’s Morning Ireland, ESB Customer Services Manager Mike Fitzgerald said there were 200 homes and businesses without power this morning, but network crews were working to restore electricity as soon as possible.

Mr Fitzgerald said crews will be on standby in high-risk areas.

Elsewhere 700 Eircom crews are working to restore landlines to 5,500 households nationwide following severe conditions over the weekend.

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Tis really picking up down here, they're forcasting 140km winds over night slacking off throughout tomorrow and quiet for Christmas Day & St Stephens day, picking up again Friday

Stay safe Melodi,
 
Melodi

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Wind picking up more here as well, you can start to hear it outside - husband got tree up but isn't feeling his best so we will decorate the Yule Tree tomorrow, I told him we also need to collect all the oil lamps, candles and flash lights while it is light - if the power goes tonight I know where a few things are. But we will want more for three people for any longer than a few hours...
 
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Melodi said:
Wind picking up more here as well, you can start to hear it outside - husband got tree up but isn't feeling his best so we will decorate the Yule Tree tomorrow, I told him we also need to collect all the oil lamps, candles and flash lights while it is light - if the power goes tonight I know where a few things are. But we will want more for three people for any longer than a few hours...
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Yeah we have everything ready to hand plus I picked up a load of those battery powered led fairy lights from Heatons,
We have plenty of turf & wood for the range so at least we'll be having a Christmas dinner if the electricity goes down, I cook & bake with our range anyway so I'm well used to it
 
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Unfortunately our range has a blocked chimney and there wasn't time to get it fixed (husband tried, but it just got worse) but we do have the Franklin stove in the drawing room, that's why it is always good to have backups.
 
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Marthanoir & Melodi, what part of Ireland are you in? Haven't heard from dh's family; they're in Co. Roscommon and the weather reports don't look too bad, but one of the deaths was there.
 
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Melodi said:
I agree, and this week has already been no picnic - our house was fine, except for the loss of the phones and the internet - but next door our neighbor lost about 10 trees, half her roof slates and had damage to a guest's car. 10,000 people were without power this morning due to lightning strikes and high winds, about 4,000 the night before - there are already emergency orders in place to require the electrical folks to work Christmas Eve - of course it is part of their contract in an emergency it is just this time they have enough warning to actually set up a roster so hopefully workers can take turns with a bit of time with their families.

My major concerns here are the old trees that have now already been partially pulled up by the roots from the earlier storms, thankfully none are too close to the house; we have one that is already nearly sideways on the old path to the graveyard. It has been like this for several years but we have not been able to get anyone to take it out because it is leaning the wrong way, at least there are no cattle in the next field this time of year so if it falls it will only take out part of the neighbor's fence.

I am also concerned about our roof and any long term power outages - we can't use our kitchen turf stove because the chimney got clogged and with the weather we can't have it cleaned until things settle - we can use the back up stove in the drawing room so if we need to we can all pile in there, heat water, cook on the inside grill and sleep on the sofa and chairs. It may not be comfortable, but the cats that are living in there for the Winter will adore us...

At least husband is home for the next two weeks...

Unless the Cell towers go down I will have g-mail, but probably not the net...
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Keep safe Melodi! And if the trees go down, be sure to see if they uproot anything valuable that has been buried there or around them from the past. You won't believe what people have found when the old trees blow down with their roots in the air!

People always have had a penchant for burying their valuables near the trees, using them as markers.

Like in Tn., my friend found alot of ancient things that were buried hundreds of years ago! V
 
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bluelady said:
Marthanoir & Melodi, what part of Ireland are you in? Haven't heard from dh's family; they're in Co. Roscommon and the weather reports don't look too bad, but one of the deaths was there.
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Melodi is closer to Roscommon than I am, I won't say where for opsec, it's not supposed to really kick off until midnight, it's now 8:20pm,
I'm much further south but closer to the Atlantic,
 
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Well keep safe there all and have a blessed Christmas.

So far so good here, heavy rain and blowing a bit (though I am eyeing the Calvados to make sure I get a good night's sleep).
 
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Marthanoir said:
Tis really picking up down here, they're forcasting 140km winds over night slacking off throughout tomorrow and quiet for Christmas Day & St Stephens day, picking up again Friday

Stay safe Melodi,
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Melodi said:
Unfortunately our range has a blocked chimney and there wasn't time to get it fixed (husband tried, but it just got worse) but we do have the Franklin stove in the drawing room, that's why it is always good to have backups.
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Greetings Marthanoir and Melodi: The weather looks ugly. I trust you will keep the electric on although this is terrible timing for the holiday's, it sounds like you are both fairly well prepared. Take care and stay safe.

Merry Christmas
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Melodi

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We are pretty much right in the Middle of the Island on the borderlands between County Tipperary and County Offaly; I won't say where we are exactly but I have posted this much before we are between the towns of Birr and Roscrea.

We tend to get a certain amount of inland "wind effect" most years and usually around this time of year but the force of these winds is unusual; I can only recall a few times we have had 70 to 90 mph winds, especially several times over a one to two week period. Our first year living here was like that (mid 1990's) and two years later was as well. What is more common is a lot of endless moderate winds with low clouds (very dark) days in January and Feb that just make you want to go hide in a cave somewhere; this weather is much wilder with highers winds and greater air temperature changes from very cold to very mild (like 32 to 50 degrees) back and forth which makes for a lot of thunder and lightning which is very unusual for this time of year.

Calm again for now, supposed to pick up again as Marthanior said between midnight and 2am...
 
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6:19pm, Mon 23 Dec 2013 Two dead as storms hit Britain
How to prepare for a possible blackout
- last updated Mon 23 Dec 2013

UK
Weather
Christmas

With strong wind and heavy rain forecast over the festive period, there is a possibility of blackouts in many parts of the UK.

This is normally caused by falling tree branches and other debris carried by the wind damaging overhead power cables.

Preparing for a possible blackout

Keep the number of your local network operator handy (see below)
Keep torches, a radio and spare batteries at hand
Keep an old-fashioned corded phone which you can plug in, as cordless phones won’t work
Keep important documents safe and handy

If electricity is crucial for any medical or mobility equipment you have, your power network operator can put you on a priority list for assistance during a power cut.
Never leave a naked flame unattended Never leave a naked flame unattended Credit: Julian Stratenschulte/DPA/Press Association Image

Who to contact in a blackout

If there is a power outage in your area, report it to your local power distribution company. Many employ extra staff in their call centres at periods of high risk.

Many will also have further advice on their websites.

North Scotland (SSE Power Distribution) - 0800 300 999

South Scotland (SP Energy Networks) - 0845 272 7999

North East England (Northern Powergrid) - 0800 668 877

North West (Electricity North West) - 0800 195 4141

Yorkshire (Northern Powergrid) - 0800 375 675

East Midlands (Western Power Distributon) - 0800 056 8090

West Midlands (Western Power Distribution) - 0800 328 1111

Eastern England (UK Power Networks) - 0800 783 8838

South Wales (Western Power Distribution) - 0800 052 0400

Southern England (SSE Power Distribution) - 08000 727 282

London (UK Power Networks) - 0800 028 0247

South East England (UK Power Networks) - 0800 783 8866

South West England (Western Power Distribution) - 0800 365 900

North Wales, Merseyside & Cheshire (SP Energy Networks) - 0845 272 2424

You should only call 999 if someone is in immediate danger or in need of urgent medical care, or if a crime is taking place or about to happen.
Electricity distribution operators in the UK Electricity distribution operators in the UK Credit: Energy Networks Association

What to do in a blackout

Listen to local radio for information
Dress warmly in several layers of clothing, stay in one room or even get into bed
Take great care if using candles, tea-lights and other naked flames
Minimises opening of fridge and freezer doors. Food can survive for up to 15 hours in a freezer if the door is not opened.
Switch off all non-essential electrical equipment
Leave one light on to let you know when the power comes back on
After the power cut be sure to check your circuit breaker

Elderly or ill neighbours may be at particular risk in a blackout so consider checking on them or taking them a flask of hot water or hot food.
 
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Rastech said:
Well keep safe there all and have a blessed Christmas.

So far so good here, heavy rain and blowing a bit (though I am eyeing the Calvados to make sure I get a good night's sleep).
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You stay safe there too mate, I'm watching recorded episodes of Mountain Men, Bad Hand has just caught a racoon :D
Just in case, Mrs Marth have opened up some survival rations, honey & spelt bread, Italian herb salami, rosemary crackers, sea salt crackers, aged Brie, pork pâté with apples & calvados,
 
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BREWER said:
Greetings Marthanoir and Melodi: The weather looks ugly. I trust you will keep the electric on although this is terrible timing for the holiday's, it sounds like you are both fairly well prepared. Take care and stay safe.

Merry Christmas
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Hey buddy, I'm surprised we haven't lost power yet, it usually goes out at the drop of a hat, the ESB was supposed to be on strike anyway so it's a bonus to have it but we're set up to live without it,
Have a good Christmas if I don't talk to you sooner, or as we say here Nollaigh Shona Duit
 
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I give up.
That spread your wife is putting on sounds delicious, Marth.

:)


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Winds have quietened down a bit, but the next surge of strong winds will come into Sussex and Kent overnight with gusts at 70-80 mph - @bbcweather
 
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mzkitty said:
That spread your wife is putting on sounds delicious, Marth.

:)


18m
Winds have quietened down a bit, but the next surge of strong winds will come into Sussex and Kent overnight with gusts at 70-80 mph - @bbcweather
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She likes to rough it in style :lol:

I just took the dogs out to the bathroom and it wild out there, crazy wild and the still two hours to go before its supposed to get bad...
 
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