…… Storing honey, molasses, sorghum syrup

kyrsyan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Until recently I have been storing these lovely things in their original jars. But I am running out of space in the pantry and about to do a major cleanup and rearrange.
Can I safely empty these into larger, up to 5 gallon, food grade buckets? Are there liners I should get? Is there a reason I can't mix brands? All of these are pure with no additives. I can get 5 gallon food safe plastic buckets but I'd honestly prefer to use the steel buckets I can get. (also 5 gallon) But I don't know if a straight dump into either is fine or if liners are needed.
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summerthyme

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No reason not to, as long as they are food grade. Make sure they are sanitized (dilute bleach water rinse then plain water rinse, air dry, then fill) to be sure you don't introduce any mold spores.

Summerthyme
 

kyrsyan

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I think the current plan will be to put them in, in the containers, until I have too many containers for it to hold. Then start dumping. I'm using a lot more nowadays then I used to.
And I don't trust dumping maple syrup because I've had that go moldy to easily, even in the fridge. But all I've ever had the syrups do is crystallize if I forgot about them for too long.
 

summerthyme

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Yeah, I *definitely* wouldn't try it with maple syrup- at least, not the real stuff! It molds too easily... when we made it commercially (1800 taps) it was bottled hot and then sealed... essentially "canned". But once opened, we always store maple syrup in the fridge.

But molasses, etc, are much thicker, and as long as you keep them sealed (they are hygroscopic, meaning they attract water... so they will eventually dilute and mold or ferment) they keep just about forever. I'm just using up the last of 5 gallon of molasses we bought in the late 1980s... it still tastes fine!

Summerthyme
 

kyrsyan

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The syrups I use are in canning jars. And much to my occasional displeasure, they reseal themselves just fine. So I've had no problems from them at all, even if it's been a few years.
My problem right now with honey is it's crystallizing in the jars very quickly. Even if the jars aren't opened. That may be because the jars are plastic. At the least, those are going to start being dumped in canning jars. It's a lot easier to get crystallized honey out of canning jars than those plastic bottles.
 

school marm

Senior Member
The syrups I use are in canning jars. And much to my occasional displeasure, they reseal themselves just fine. So I've had no problems from them at all, even if it's been a few years.
My problem right now with honey is it's crystallizing in the jars very quickly. Even if the jars aren't opened. That may be because the jars are plastic. At the least, those are going to start being dumped in canning jars. It's a lot easier to get crystallized honey out of canning jars than those plastic bottles.
In all likelihood the honey will recrystallize in glass as well. We got two 4-gallon metal cans of 40-yr-old honey from my in-laws a few years back. They were both totally crystallized. I put them in a warm oven to liquefy and transferred it all into quart jars. I think it was less than two months before they recrystallized.
 

kyrsyan

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In all likelihood the honey will recrystallize in glass as well. We got two 4-gallon metal cans of 40-yr-old honey from my in-laws a few years back. They were both totally crystallized. I put them in a warm oven to liquefy and transferred it all into quart jars. I think it was less than two months before they recrystallized.
I'm not worried about it in wide mouth canning jars. But the bottles that they come in only have 1 1/2" openings. And the crystallized honey always seems to want to embed itself in the grooves at the bottom. That it crystallizes doesn't faze me at all. The problem is getting it out of the original bottles after it crystallizes.
 

China Connection

TB Fanatic
I buy it in three gallon plastic buckets from the produce store.

Keep it sealed and away from the sun and excessive heat.

Use clean stuff to get it out of the container.
 

China Connection

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Does Molasses Go Bad?
December 10, 2019 Marcin Skrzypiec
So you needed some blackstrap molasses for that gingerbread recipe you wanted to test out. You’ve bought a bottle, baked the gingerbread and it turned out okay, nothing spectacular.
Now, more than a few months have passed and you haven’t baked any gingerbread since that first try. You want to give it a go one more time, but first, you need to know if molasses does go bad.
That’s a quite common scenario because most people use molasses only in a handful of recipes, like gingerbread or barbecue sauce.
If that’s the case, and you’re looking for some information on storage, shelf life, and signs of going bad of molasses, this article is for you.
Sugar beet molasses on a spoon
Sugar beet molasses on a spoon
How To Store Molasses
You store molasses pretty much the same way you store sweeteners such as honey or maple syrup.
That means it you should keep it in a cool and dry place. The pantry is the best choice, but the kitchen will work too. Keeping it in a place where the temperature doesn’t fluctuate much will help a bit as well.
Once you open the bottle, the most important thing to remember is to keep it sealed tightly when not in use.
In case you were wondering, there’s no need to refrigerate molasses after opening. Keeping it in the fridge will help retain the quality for a bit longer, but you do it at a cost. Have you ever heard the saying “slow as molasses in January?”. Molasses is viscous at room temperature, and if you put it into the fridge, well, it becomes even more so.
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To reduce the thickness of cold molasses, you can either pull it out of the fridge a few hours before you need it or heat the whole bottle or jar in a pot of warm water.
Molasses in a white bowl
Molasses in a white bowl
How Long Does Molasses Last
There are a lot of opinions when it comes to the shelf life of this sweetener. It seems that each producer and molasses user has one of their own.
There’s a reason for that: it’s difficult to say how long does molasses last.
Of course, many bottles come with a best-by date, but that date is only an educated guess of how long the product will retain the best quality. And when it comes to molasses and other sweeteners like corn syrup, that date as often as not has little to with reality.
In other words, molasses stays safe to consume and of good quality for months past the date on the label. If there’s no date on the label, you can quite safely assume that it will last for at least 2 years from buying it.
As I mentioned, it’s not easy to point out how long molasses lasts. In most cases, you will decide to throw it out for quality purposes, not because it’s spoiled. That means it’ll be still safe to consume, but the taste won’t quite be there, and the recipes flavored with it will come out somewhat bland.
Because of that, treat the dates below as approximate and for best quality only. Molasses, if you store it properly, will last for much longer than that.
Pantry
Molasses (Unopened)Best By + 2 years
Molasses (Opened)Best By + 1 year
Molasses
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How To Tell If Molasses Is Bad
Unlike honey, molasses doesn’t last forever. It can spoil eventually, but that often takes like 10 years or so.
The signs of molasses going bad are pretty typical. Those include spots of mold, unpleasant smell, or altered taste. Watch out especially for signs of mold, as they can be really tiny and difficult to spot once they first form.
If you’re not quite sure how molasses should taste and smell, well, the easiest way is to open a new bottle, and give it a good sniff and taste some. This way you will know what to expect.
If the liquid looks like it’s supposed to and smells okay, feel free to taste it. It’s most likely perfectly safe to eat and usually, the worst-case scenario here is that you’ll eat molasses that tastes not-that-great.
If it tastes just fine, feel free to use in your next gingerbread project. Otherwise, it’s better to get rid of it for quality purposes.
Last but not least, if you notice that something about the molasses is wrong, get rid of it. Even if you’re not quite sure what that is. Humans are quite good at spotting food that’s unsafe to eat. So if something tells you that there’s something wrong with the product, cut your losses and throw it out.


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Illini Warrior

Illini Warrior
just make sure the molasses is the food grade quality when you buy in bulk and the 5 gallon buckets ....

the animal feed quality is sold in bulk - IBC tote quantity down to the 5 gallon buckets >>> DON'T even think about using the feed supplement quality - YUKE!!!!! - I've seen everything from dead rats to 2X4s included from the factory & distributors .....
 
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