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[Griz3752]

Polls Continue to Predict Losses for Trudeau in Upcoming Snap Election

Justin Trudeau continues to lose ground in polling after calling a mid-pandemic snap election that some commentators have called "pointless".

www.breitbart.com

Polls Continue to Show Large Losses for Trudeau After ‘Pointless’ Snap Election Call

Canadian Prime Minister and Liberal Party leader Justin Trudeau continues to lose ground in polling after calling a mid-pandemic snap election that some commentators have called “pointless”.
A poll released on September 1st by iPolitics/Mainstreet Research is just the latest to put the Trudeau Liberals behind the Canadian Conservative Party (CPC) after what is being regarded as a disastrous campaign by the Liberals weeks after Trudeau called for a federal election.
The Trudeau government, which has a minority in the Canadian parliament, could lose as many as 22 seats on September 20th. The CPC under leader Erin O’Toole stands to gain 30 seats, but despite this possible victory it would remain 19 seats shy of the 170 needed to form a parliamentary majority in the 338-seat chamber.
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The 'point' to the snap election was a gamble he could recover a majority position in Parliament and ram through more Socialist rograms while cintinuing to choke off his (and his father's declared enemies, the West)

I wonder what the little prick will do if this prophesy comes true?

His only real world work experience, before he rode the coattails of the family name to power, was teaching. Given the number of sexual peccadilloes which various Attorneys-General have elected not to investigate/prosecute, but are likely to come up in vetting if he applies for a teaching/leadership role in Education, I'm not sure.

Of course there are always opportunities w/ SNC-Lavalin or his buddies, Marc and Craig Kielburger of We.org to whom he's directed mega-millions of dollars untendered contracts based on ...what? Their good haircuts?

Of course he no experience in Engineering or what ever it is We.org does but that's never stopped him from lying or grafting his way into something way cushier than actual work.

 

[Knoxville's Joker]

I wonder if Canada will get a surprise terror attack and the whole gun control narrative will fall flat on its face again. Maybe even giving back the ar-10/15 semi auto rifle ownership rights back to the citizenry.

 

[Dennis Olson]

Please edit your thread title.

Thanks.

 

[Griz3752]

I wonder if Canada will get a surprise terror attack and the whole gun control narrative will fall flat on its face again. Maybe even giving back the ar-10/15 semi auto rifle ownership rights back to the citizenry.

Such common sense approaches to actual Public Safety don't fall within the scope of Socialist thinking; at least not that I'm aware of.

It would be nice though.

 

[Meemur]

Canadian citizens need to rise up, say no, and start voting those commies out of office.

 

[Knoxville's Joker]

Canadian citizens need to rise up, say no, and start voting those commies out of office.

They are. Most are absolutely livid about Trudeau and his shenannigans and the continual erosion of rights that is covid.

 

[Griz3752]

Please edit your thread title.

Thanks.

done

 

[Jeep]

Does Canada use Dominion voting machines? If so Trudeau doesn't have anything to worry about.

 

[Hognutz]

Need a “ Day of the Rake”.

 

[Griz3752]

Does Canada use Dominion voting machines? If so Trudeau doesn't have anything to worry about.

To my knowledge, its a fully-manual system run by Elections Canada. The entire population is roughly equal to CA so the volume of work doesn't justify the investment in technology as generally, Federal Elections now occur only every five (5) years±. Things like the current one are a crap-shoot gamble to improve over-all control of the House.

Elections Canada only has one role; tabulating votes in Federal Elections. The Boundaries of polling districts and Ridings are in the hands of the Govt of the day so there's lots of boundary shifts by demographics to 'protect' incumbent Govt Members. It doesn't always work obviously as demographics can change quicker than boundaries particularly if the Govt of the Day pisses enough people off which may have happened this time.

The results of any Federal election is generally a safe prediction after PQ & ON are counted as most of the countries population is there and poll closings follow the time zones, East to West.

Note: the Canadian Senate is not elected, only appointed by the Gov't of the Day. Canada's Supreme Court (SCoC) is the same and like SCOTUS, for life.

 

[Griz3752]

Canadian citizens need to rise up, say no, and start voting those commies out of office.

Agreed!

The single largest issue there is Canada's 'freedom' from UK Rule, unlike America's, was not won by blood and steel, it was 'granted' by the stroke of a pen.

Secondarily, since its inception, the Federal Govt of Canada, regardless of the Party in power has eased to the left. It, like most 'Free Govts' is run day-to-day by grey hordes who seem almost exclusively Socialist because such policies provide the best income, benefits and pensions for them and theirs (insider trading opportunities, anyone?), the aforesaid grey hordes.

The last roadblock is Canada, unlike the US, which is the only 'free' country on the Planet with a 2A, has no such constitutional protection. T h e USA is T H E o n l y o n e!

Canada, over time, has also killed off almost every govt funded activity which revolves around firearms proficiencies and so closely regulates acquisition and ownership/usage of firearms as to make it as difficult as possible. Want a real exercise in frustration? Try to get a range facility, community or for profit, authorised and built. If that doesn't curl your hair, apply for a Commercial Firearms license to run any sort of firearms-related manufacturing, sales or distributorship business.

Mind you, this all really took root under St. Laurent in the early 1950s so, the struggle continues, much to the ongoing chagrin of The Lieberal Party of Canada who's discomfort I am pleased to contribute to at any possible turn.

 

[packyderms_wife]

Canadian citizens need to rise up, say no, and start voting those commies out of office.

They have the same problem we have, dominion voting machines.

 

[Griz3752]

They have the same problem we have, dominion voting machines.

Sorry Canadian Federal elections are all manual ballots and counts.
There is no electronic or online voting in Canadian federal elections. Paper ballots are hand-counted.
Electronic voting in Canada - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Electronic_voting_in_Ca...

Which voting system does Canada use?
Canada's electoral system is referred to as a "first past the post" system. The candidate with the most votes in a riding wins a seat in the House of Commons and represents that riding as its Member of Parliament (MP).

Canadian electoral system - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Canadian electoral system

Federal elections use hand-counted paper ballots. Provincial elections use paper ballots, some provinces have introduced computer ballot counting (vote tabulators), and the Northwest Territories has experimented with Internet voting for absentee voting.

Electronic voting in Canada - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Electronic voting in Canada - Wikipedia

All very archaic but way more reliable/less susceptible to fraud as votes are counted at each polling place as they close and passed up the line for verification at each level.
There have been issues when a couple of complete ballot boxes from one remote Northern riding went 'missing' and never made it to the next control point but that hasn't happened in a long time. Such an event would only affect that constituency/riding not an entire election unless that one seat was going to determine the entire election.

Traditionally I don't think Cdn. Federal elections have ever been that close.

 

[zeker]

They are. Most are absolutely livid about Trudeau and his shenannigans and the continual erosion of rights that is covid.

I have not seen any liberal signs in my area

many conservative and a few ndp

my 'peoples party' sign did not materialize

 

[Knoxville's Joker]

I have not seen any liberal signs in my area

many conservative and a few ndp

my 'peoples party' sign did not materialize

I have advised my Canadian friend to watch out. He will still be able to retain power by some weird and odd technicality.

 

[Griz3752]

I have advised my Canadian friend to watch out. He will still be able to retain power by some weird and odd technicality.

To my knowlege, there has never been a 'hanging chad' or similar in any Canadian Federal Election. Although Orders-in-Council (OIC) are like POTUS Exec Orders, turdo can't inniate any which change electoral process, riding distribution, etc, post calling the Election. Given how he's vilified & generally abused/misued the Cdn Military, I think we're safe from anything like a coup.

 

[Griz3752]

I wonder if Canada will get a surprise terror attack and the whole gun control narrative will fall flat on its face again. Maybe even giving back the ar-10/15 semi auto rifle ownership rights back to the citizenry.

Not a chance in hell on the give-back component. For what ever reason, Lieberals seem anti-gun, period. Maybe its just the Socialist gene they all seem to get implanted.

 

[The Hammer]

Would this mean Trudeau's party would lose seats, but Trudeau would hang on as PM, because no one else will have enough seats to form a new government?

Also, when is the next scheduled election, or does a snap election start the clock over again?

 

[Griz3752]

Agreed!
The single largest issue there is Canada's 'freedom' from UK Rule, unlike America's, was not won by blood and steel, it was 'granted' by the stroke of a pen.
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Mind you, this all really took root under St. Laurent in the early 1950s so, the struggle continues, much to the ongoing chagrin of The Lieberal Party of Canada who's discomfort I am pleased to contribute to at any possible turn.

Further contributing to the mess is allowing any group to field candidates.

For instance, the BQ should not be allowed to run federally as they only field candidates in PQ and, one constant of their platform is dissolution of the Commonwealth.

The Lieberals probably rub their hands in glee every time a new-right leaning splinter group pops up as that leads to yet more vote splitting, usually on a regional basis.

Get this: if the MaryJane4EVERYONE Party win one (1) single seat, the federal budget immediately issues checks to assist w/ office expense, support staff etc etc. Those monies come from tax dollars which means even the most Law&Order, Anti-drug folks in the country are paying to support a party they wouldn't spit on.

It's a wonderful thing.....

 

[Walrus]

Does Canada use Dominion voting machines? If so Trudeau doesn't have anything to worry about.

One has to be almost certain that they do; after all, Canada must keep up with the latest technology.

 

[Double_A]

Story was that Billionaire Leftist Soros had office space in the same building as Dominion, in Ontario Canada.

Dominion Voting shares office with far-left George Soros linked group

• By Keean Bexter, November 17, 2020

Update: (November 18, 2020) After publication of this news story, Tides Canada contacted us by email. They state they moved out of the office building at 215 Spadina Avenue last year, although their name remains in the building door entry system and on the building's directory of tenants.
Tides Canada also told us that they do not receive or disburse “cash” from George Soros. In fact, the Tides Foundation (the parent of Tides Canada) has received more than $22 million from Soros foundations.
The vote tabulation company at the centre of several controversies surrounding the legitimacy of the American presidential election shares an office floor with the Tides Foundation.

Tides, which recently changed its name to Make Way, is an extreme left eco-radical charity that directs cash supplied by George Soros to smaller groups and organizations to advance the globalist agenda of Soros.

Dominion Voting has come under fire after their vote tabulation machines created a 6,000 vote swing in a single Michigan state county. The same machines and software were used in every single county in Georgia and in several other swing states that just sent their electoral votes to Joe Biden (for now).

Rebel News was on location inside the Dominion Voting building located at 215 Spadina Avenue in Toronto, and my camera crew and I were actually removed by a building manager.

But before he stopped us for committing the heinous offence of journalism, we learned that Tides and Dominion requested the building manager remove all signage and references to their shared building occupancy. Why would they do that?

The close working relationship that the company and charity have raises even more questions about the security of the American election.

Are the radical employees of George Soros able to access the same desks, filing cabinets, servers, and Wi-Fi of Dominion Voting? Are any extra security protocols taken to ensure no voting data or proprietary information is protected? Of all the office space in the world, why has Dominion Voting occupied that office space since 2013?
Further to the suspect office floor sharing, Dominion Voting also showed their hand when documents surfaced showing they donated between $25,000 and $50,000 to Hillary Clinton’s personal foundation, a charity tied closely to the Tides Foundation. George Soros actually donated over $9.5M to Hillary Clinton’s election campaign.

Rebel News called Dominion Voting and the Tides foundation office several times, and spoke with employees outside of their offices.

In all cases, they either refused to answer or even pick up the phone. We left messages and will update this story if they ever get back to us.

Dominion Voting’s website features a string of denials to the mounting mainstream coverage of voter fraud in the American Election. On it, Dominion states “Dominion has no company ownership relationships with any member of the Pelosi family, the Feinstein family, or the Clinton Global Initiative,” this is despite the fact that they donated tens of thousands of dollars to the Clinton-operated charity.

Dominion also maintains that “assertions of voter fraud conspiracies are 100 per cent false.”

 

[Walrus]

One has to be almost certain that they do; after all, Canada must keep up with the latest technology.

I guess that above statement is wrong if it's a federal election?

 

[Griz3752]

Would this mean Trudeau's party would lose seats, but Trudeau would hang on as PM, because no one else will have enough seats to form a new government?

Also, when is the next scheduled election, or does a snap election start the clock over again?

Yes to all; he wasted all that treasure & wound up w/ less seats. If he had a majority of one, he could ram through whatever he wanted. There are very few free/'vote your conscience' votes in Cdn. Fed Politics.

As the party w/ the most seats, Lieberals can rule as a Minority Gov or enter a formal coalition w/ another party; unlikely as there's only the NDP as possible partners.

Generally minority govs last mere months in Canada until a vote of no confidence happens. If he could bluff & BS his way though, he officially got up to 5 years to call another election out of this.

He won't make it.

O'toole & Bernier need to get their heads together & merge or the vote spitting will continue. I think most Cdns might welcome adding a run-off component to the systems but we're cheap and can't seem to get our heads around the additional expense. It would hopefully eliminate such crap as this and. as the Lieberals would corrctly see this as a threat to them, there'd be epic foot dragging and lamenting on that.

 

[Griz3752]

I guess that above statement is wrong if it's a federal election?

To my knowledge, no jurisdiction in Canada uses voting machines/software.

Most Prov/Terr. govs & municipalities coordinate their elections/referendums etc w/ federal ones so there's just more ballots to ink.

ALL are manually counted.

Think of the scale though; pretty much the same footprint as the USA, Canada has about 45 million population in total (not counting polar bears etc). The USA has about 160± million eligible voters . Given the relative world position, USA needs more timely info but the huge variance of electoral systems, eligibility criteria, impact of local bias etc etc all collaborate against as clean, easy federal elections as Canada enjoys.

A nation-wide US federal standard for voting access would probably help but given the different national structures, I don't see it happening. Maybe if a Constitutional federal-only voting amendment was passed it might but again, I don't see ratification of that either.

 

[Griz3752]

Need a “ Day of the Rake”.

Well if by that you mean a forced annexation, you might want to hold off there.

Consider A'stan and before that debacle, 'Nam then consider how hard the fight would be against people who looked & sounded like Americans.

A better method would be to forget 'Nation building' et al on a global scale and perhaps focus on facilitating a restructuring or realignment of various Cdn regions as new States.

ATL Canada might come in as a block or a single entity. Pretty sure AB, SK & most of MB would be players. PQ wants to separate so, go for it. ON has done zip except suck dollars out of the West for ever and treats the whole country as client states.
Lots of resources and a pretty well educated work force could be the rewards, if approached correctly and a way better idea than buying Greenland.

 

[Hognutz]

Well if by that you mean a forced annexation, you might want to hold off there.

Consider A'stan and before that debacle, 'Nam then consider how hard the fight would be against people who looked & sounded like Americans.

A better method would be to forget 'Nation building' et al on a global scale and perhaps focus on facilitating a restructuring or realignment of various Cdn regions as new States.

ATL Canada might come in as a block or a single entity. Pretty sure AB, SK & most of MB would be players. PQ wants to separate so, go for it. ON has done zip except suck dollars out of the West for ever and treats the whole country as client states.
Lots of resources and a pretty well educated work force could be the rewards, if approached correctly and a way better idea than buying Greenland.

Nope, it’s like Day of the Rope ,except for Canadians…

 

[Griz3752]

Nope, it’s like Day of the Rope ,except for Canadians…

Don't recall that ....

 

[Dennis Olson]

Maybe its just the Socialist gene they all seem to get implanted.

I’ve opined about this in times past. It might look like socialism rules them, but it doesn’t. The real issue with liberals is that they freeze in their mental development at about age 12. Thus, as adults they need a “daddy” figure to give them rules For their entire lives. That source is the government. That’s why they worship the government so much.

 

[Griz3752]

Socialist gene implanted refers to Lieberals

At least 35-45% of the Canadian population are not so infected/modified

 

[Old Gray Mare]

Canadian citizens need to rise up, say no, and start voting those commies out of office.

It's who counts the votes that counts, not who votes.

 

[Doomer Doug]

The cbc called the election before the voting ended. Trudeau stole the election. They also had issues I heard with the voting process or something.
Alberta and Manitoba voted solid conservative and the rest of canada voted mostly liberal, hard left, and even harder left.
Alberta and Manitoba need to set up their own federation.

 

[zeker]

Canadian citizens need to rise up, say no, and start voting those commies out of office.

they just tried

but.....

"its not who votes"

"its who counts the votes"

just saw OGM I agree

 

[Walrus]

To my knowledge, no jurisdiction in Canada uses voting machines/software.

Most Prov/Terr. govs & municipalities coordinate their elections/referendums etc w/ federal ones so there's just more ballots to ink.

ALL are manually counted.

Think of the scale though; pretty much the same footprint as the USA, Canada has about 45 million population in total (not counting polar bears etc). The USA has about 160± million eligible voters . Given the relative world position, USA needs more timely info but the huge variance of electoral systems, eligibility criteria, impact of local bias etc etc all collaborate against as clean, easy federal elections as Canada enjoys.

A nation-wide US federal standard for voting access would probably help but given the different national structures, I don't see it happening. Maybe if a Constitutional federal-only voting amendment was passed it might but again, I don't see ratification of that either.

Agree; it would require an amendment for certain as state legislatures are granted in the Constitution the exclusive right to conduct presidential elections as they see fit, and it's difficult to imagine any amendment being ratified nowadays, except perhaps holding a constitutional convention of states. (I'm yet to be convinced that's a good thing, personally)

But it's actually an easy switch to correct the system. Florida has proven that time and again since the dangling chad fiasco of 2000. One of the largest voting populations in the country has no trouble properly counting their votes from all-paper ballots and reporting the results in a timely way. It's just that the entrenched keepers of the sacred staff inside the Beltway do not WANT it to happen as it would eventually root them all out of the lifestyle to which they've become accustomed.

Lazy, incompetent and ignorant asses which they are - as well as being bought and paid for even at this early stage in their political careers - state legislators have largely passed on their constitutional authorities to unelected electoral commissions which appear to kowtow to the state's executive branch, particularly to the governor and secretary of state. To the legislatures' dismay, however, they have discovered that passing on responsibility does not pass on accountability - although it's too late to do much other than try to fix the system moving forward.

This means that we can forget the idea of President Trump being somehow miraculously reinstated because Q says so in his hopium-obscured psyop posts (Does not everyone still understand that only someone who is part of the Deep State could have kept from being exposed by the Deep State for this long?). The sooner we reach this conclusion as a society, the better. TINVOWOOT and no one is coming to save us.

 

[Griz3752]

But it's actually an easy switch to correct the system. Florida has proven that time and again since the dangling chad fiasco of 2000. One of the largest voting populations in the country has no trouble properly counting their votes from all-paper ballots and reporting the results in a timely way.

Going to paper ballots and manual counts is the best solution I can see. Its all I know really but, it works. Mail in voting works too but there are deeply invested groups who have a reason to make all voting as difficult, cumbersome and untrustworthy as possible.
As I've said many times, it doesn't matter whose boot, Leftist or Right, is on your neck, its still a boot. I'm pretty sure there's a group of Dems and another of GOP adherants who'd be happy to collaborate on completely crashing the American Electoral system

 

[Walrus]

Going to paper ballots and manual counts is the best solution I can see. Its all I know really but, it works. Mail in voting works too but there are deeply invested groups who have a reason to make all voting as difficult, cumbersome and untrustworthy as possible.
As I've said many times, it doesn't matter whose boot, Leftist or Right, is on your neck, its still a boot. I'm pretty sure there's a group of Dems and another of GOP adherants who'd be happy to collaborate on completely crashing the American Electoral system

You are sadly correct; they both want federal control of elections (which would continue leftists' control of political power along with the judiciary), but that little phrase in the Constitution in Article 2, Section 1 has had a way so far, at least, of confounding their efforts.

People have either forgotten or have never learned the reason for the Electoral College; it was the way that the Founding Fathers saw to avoid the tyranny of the majority and a way to ensure that the power of the states remained in balance with the feds, regardless of their populations. It's either ignorance or malice which causes people to institute what in effect would be a parliamentary system of government without any pesky opposition to raise annoying issues - a la most African countries.

 

[Griz3752]

It's who counts the votes that counts, not who votes.

True statement OGM but points out the issue w/ relying on hackable software, et al.