ECON So What Happened To Silver??

The OP is imho a invite to stackers to troll but it has become something else.
A safe haven for samson?
Maybe its best to keep the old thread active.
The other thread is still active, but became a ghost town. Why do you think that is?

On the other hand, if you don't like what you're reading here, why come to the thread and complain? That's really strange, you could just bypass it.
 
It was once as mighty as the dollar but it unlinked from the gold standerd and has been a fiat note since.

Sure. But there aren’t that many currencies that remain linked to PMs. It’s that old TPTB need to control to stay in control. Any asset that gets in the way of their control gets hit with boomwhackers. Look at oil. Real estate as well. Basically the nature of the entire thing.
 
Just for the fun of it, I did a quick average of Silver prices the past 11 years, using July as the base for each year. Over the past 10 years, silver ranged from the low of $14 an ounce, up to the current $58 an ounce.

Here's the numbers, starting from 2016: 19, 16, 14, 17, 23, 22, 19, 22, 31, 46, 58,

When averaged out over those 11 years, the average was $26 an ounce.

So, except for the unrealistic ramp up the end of last year, silver really hasn't moved much over the past decade. That's what makes me consider the "investment value" of it, compared to other investment vehicles.

Yeah, I know, everybody got giddy with the ramp up the end of last year, but since January, much of that ramp has been given back, down -50% from the high, and silver still hasn't found it's bottom yet.
 
Three of those, the German, Zimbabwe & Venezuelan experiences also had the unique distinctions of each having had the fastest growing, most profitable, stock markets in the entire world shortly before their currency collapsed.

Hmmm, I bet that each their high-flying stock markets contributed to even more people being blindsided back then when their currency finally imploded, what do you think?

Panic Early, Beat the Rush!
- Shane

I haven't followed Venezuela, but I did follow Zimbabwe and South Africa. During the Zimbabwe hyperinflation, their stock market screamed upwards like a rocket ship. A lot of people invested in the Zimbabwean stock market to protect the value of their currency. The reality was that no matter how high their stock market rose, it never kept up with the devaluation of the currency. I'm sure you've al seen their ridiculous "Trillion Dollar" notes that couldn't buy a single egg.

The South African markets weren't as extreme, but their currency took a big hit, too. Their currency unit was the Rand. When I was there, the Rand was roughly worth one US Dollar. Now it's worth roughly one sixth of a dollar.

Best
Doc
 
I haven't followed Venezuela, but I did follow Zimbabwe and South Africa. During the Zimbabwe hyperinflation, their stock market screamed upwards like a rocket ship. A lot of people invested in the Zimbabwean stock market to protect the value of their currency. The reality was that no matter how high their stock market rose, it never kept up with the devaluation of the currency. I'm sure you've al seen their ridiculous "Trillion Dollar" notes that couldn't buy a single egg.

The South African markets weren't as extreme, but their currency took a big hit, too. Their currency unit was the Rand. When I was there, the Rand was roughly worth one US Dollar. Now it's worth roughly one sixth of a dollar.

Best
Doc

Thanks for the boots on the ground report. I’ll add it to my reading. I plan to look for correlations that put everything in context, not just inside a country’s borders.

Right now I’m deciding whether to haul my butt to the ER or just let the cut and knot on my scalp ride. We were hanging cabinets and a stud wasn’t where the stud finder said it should be. You can imagine the comedy routine that resulted. :rolleyes:
 
Seriously? None of what you’ve said has ever been said by anyone other than that little guy in your imagination. Please find a post that actually says that. I’m serious, find it and repost it here with the context.

I keep hearing people saying that but they are only repeating sarcasm and snark, not actual posts by members they claim say it. I know for a fact I’ve called PMs a type of insurance multiple times over the years. I’ve also said there is no cookie cutter approach and everyone is going to have to create their own plan to deal with their own needs.

Please don’t repost that nonsense unless you can back it up with actually posts. It really isn’t a good look.

If it gives someone comfort to hold PMs then by all means do so. Not my business, not my circus, and certainly not my bank account. For me, PMs are primarily a means of passing wealth from one generation to the next. If I didn’t have a next gen, then I doubt I would have the PMs that I do given when and why I acquired them. But that’s me. I take the income approach when it comes to assets.

My opinion is that PMs will never be a mainstream currency. Even after states such as Florida have created ways for people to directly use PMs to pay municipal bills with PMs there are so many requirements and mandates attached to the system that it is only limitedly feasible for some people to do so in a likely hardship case, not as a regular use of PMs as a currency. This is proven out even in war torn areas such as Gaza PMs are not welcome, they prefer small denominations of local currencies.

In my opinion once again, a fully digital currency system will be enacted prior to a full crash. We’re already more than half way there. The PM markets manipulations pretty much lean that direction as well.

The question in my mind which I don’t have the answers for is how will a transition period look. For one it will depend on what is the final driving factor that pushes the currency to be fully digitized and how in line will the rest of the world be when it happens … and they have access to digital funds even in places like Gaza so it isn’t that big of an impossibility even if war is what causes it. Lots of questions left to consider. But that needs to be based on facts, not on assumptions. There’s normalcy bias on all sides of the PM issue.

Loved the personal attack, Kathy. To make me seem stupid.
So emotional. I will see if than that little guy in my
imagination can grasp what you wrote. But, I think if you
look at why KS was removed from the other thread, and also
the other posting throughout The forum you will see a pattern.
I agree KS should have a thread to express his opinions on.
But, that does not mean people can not disagree, without being
attacked personally.
Also why don't you repost your post on why you thought this
thread should be closed. That you deleted.

Hope you get well soon, as I think things are affecting's your
posts here. You have always been middle of the road like me.
In that be diversified with more than one type of investment.
So I find it hard to understand why your defense of a poster who
says he has a type of investment, but throughout the forum keeps
attacking it. Constantly.

I do agree with KS that if all you want is cash. In the short run,
the stocks are a better bet. For now. We all have to determine, for
ourselves what the future may hold. And plan accordingly. I look
forward to this thread being more even minded in the future.

Sorry for the thread drift again, but I wanted to give you a reply.
YMMV
 
Loved the personal attack, Kathy. To make me seem stupid.
So emotional. I will see if than that little guy in my
imagination can grasp what you wrote. But, I think if you
look at why KS was removed from the other thread, and also
the other posting throughout The forum you will see a pattern.
I agree KS should have a thread to express his opinions on.
But, that does not mean people can not disagree, without being
attacked personally.
Also why don't you repost your post on why you thought this
thread should be closed. That you deleted.

Hope you get well soon, as I think things are affecting's your
posts here. You have always been middle of the road like me.
In that be diversified with more than one type of investment.
So I find it hard to understand why your defense of a poster who
says he has a type of investment, but throughout the forum keeps
attacking it. Constantly.

I do agree with KS that if all you want is cash. In the short run,
the stocks are a better bet. For now. We all have to determine, for
ourselves what the future may hold. And plan accordingly. I look
forward to this thread being more even minded in the future.

Sorry for the thread drift again, but I wanted to give you a reply.
YMMV

After what you did? Yes, I am allowed to defend myself. I’m not going to be a stationary target just to make it easy. Don’t deflect. The things that you learn about some members when you become a mod is pretty eye opening. You also get attacked, most of those attacks are because people get butthurt over the stupidest things. As a mod we get the wha-wha-wha I’m being picked on almost daily. Never mind. Until you walk in a mod’s or admin’s shoes you just can’t get it. It is a completely different ball game. And I didn’t delete any of my posts. If a post get’s deleted there’s still a marker that says where it was located.

If you were sincere then you’d do your part to keep the thread from turning into a ridiculous playground spat. Take personal problems with members and mods to a private conversation. That’s the way Dennis has asked it to work for years, the same for the rules he instituted years and years ago
 
So, what happened to silver?

It stopped being a currency by government mandate.

A silver dollar (ASE) minted by our U.S. mints, can still buy you about $57 new fed dollars. I know what dollars I like. Interestingly it currently takes about $75 to buy from a dealer.

Thats whats happening in minted silver.

:D
 
Thanks for the boots on the ground report. I’ll add it to my reading. I plan to look for correlations that put everything in context, not just inside a country’s borders.

Right now I’m deciding whether to haul my butt to the ER or just let the cut and knot on my scalp ride. We were hanging cabinets and a stud wasn’t where the stud finder said it should be. You can imagine the comedy routine that resulted. :rolleyes:
Get better!
 
A silver dollar (ASE) minted by our U.S. mints, can still buy you about $57 new fed dollars. I know what dollars I like. Interestingly it currently takes about $75 to buy from a dealer.
And if you sell it now to a dealer, what will he give you for it? $40?
 
The other thread is still active, but became a ghost town. Why do you think that is?

On the other hand, if you don't like what you're reading here, why come to the thread and complain? That's really strange, you could just bypass it.

You seem to have a habit of embellishing my words and not answering questions. That was not much of a complaint. Just an observation about what this thread has become.

And the reason this is active is simple. Do you need me to explain it?

PS I like what I am reading here, more embellishing on your part.
 
Ok. One last time for the peanut gallery. You have a problem with a poster yake it private convo. Thread drift this thread one more time and you get thread banned.

There is the main PM thread unless ST bounces you from there for posting behavior. I’ll bounce you from here for the same thing. Has NOTHING TO DO WITH OPINION. We’re done asking. Find some self control and stop poking the damn bear. It is childish and unbecoming behavior for this forum. This thread is for alternative views of the PM situation. KS was invited to start it to leave the other PM thread for that viewpoint. Keep that in mind.
 

Why Is Silver Price Dropping While Its Deficit Hit a Record​

  • Silver traded near $56.50 on June 26, 2026, a seven-month low and about 47% below its January all-time high of $121.62. The metal lost roughly 12% in two trading days and about 26% over the past month.
  • The drop is mainly due to investors pulling their money out, even though real-world demand for silver continues. Now, markets see an 83% chance of a Fed rate hike by December, which is a big change from the rate-cut expectations six months ago. The US dollar is also at a one-year high near 101.80.
  • According to the Silver Institute’s World Silver Survey 2026, there is a sixth consecutive annual deficit, now at 46.3 million ounces. Since 2021, 762.1 million ounces have been taken from above-ground stocks. Factory demand is also weakening, with solar demand down 19%, jewelry down 16%, and silverware down 20%.
  • The gold-silver ratio has risen to about 68.6 from 50 in January, showing that silver has dropped much faster than gold. Demand for Western coins and bars is expected to rise 20% to a three-year high of 227 million ounces, which suggests that lower prices are attracting physical buyers again.

On June 26, 2026, silver was trading near $56.50, its lowest in seven months. The price has fallen about 47% from its January record of $121.62, with about 12% of that loss happening in just two days this week. The Silver Institute also confirmed a sixth straight year of shortage, with the 2026 deficit growing to 46.3 million ounces.

Even though silver is in its biggest shortage in modern times, the price is acting as if there are no buyers. This makes more sense when you look at the two main factors that drive silver’s price, which are not just about how much silver is used worldwide.

$121 to $56: How Fast the Fall Arrived

In five months, silver lost all the gains it made during most of 2025, with the sharpest drop happening in the last week of June.

Date
Silver (per oz)
What was happening
Late January 2026
$121.62 record high​
First sustained break above $100; gold-silver ratio at 50, a 14-year low
April 17
~$79​
World Silver Survey 2026 released, deficit confirmed
June 3
~$74​
Sticky inflation, war premium still in price
June 15
$70.38​
Gold-silver ratio at 61.7
June 23
$62.03​
Dollar index breaks 100
June 24
~$59 close at $58.09​
Below $60 for the first time since December; roughly 5% single-day drop
June 25
~$57​
Seven-month low; PCE inflation data due
June 26
~$56.50​
Testing the December 4 low of $56.45

So far this year, silver is down about 13%, even though it started 2026 above $100. Since the January peak, it has lost nearly half its value. Both the price drop and the ongoing shortage are real, which is why the situation seems confusing at first.

The Reason Silver Is Falling: The Fed Flipped From Cuts to Hikes


Silver does not pay any interest. It just stays in a vault, a coin tube, or a fund, earning nothing while you hold it. This means it competes with cash and government bonds for investors’ money. When cash offers little return, silver looks appealing, but when cash pays 4% to 5%, holding silver with no yield feels costly.

Six months ago, markets thought the Federal Reserve would cut interest rates several times in 2026. Now, that expectation has completely changed. After Fed Chair Kevin Warsh showed a strong commitment to lowering inflation, traders began to expect an 83% chance of a rate hike by December. The US Dollar Index also rose to about 101.80, its highest in over a year.

Expectations of higher rates affect silver in two ways. First, higher returns on cash, with the 10-year Treasury yield nearing 4.48% and real yields around 2.2%, draw money away from metals and into income investments. Second, a stronger dollar makes silver more expensive for buyers outside the US.

The US-Iran ceasefire on June 14 also removed the war premium, sending oil prices back to pre-conflict levels and reducing the inflation fears that had supported precious metals. With these three supports gone, silver, which pays no yield, took the full impact.

Silver Runs on Two Engines, and One Just Stalled


To understand silver, you need to see that it has two main roles. One is monetary: investors buy silver as a store of value, and this demand changes with interest rates, the dollar, and inflation fears. The other is industrial: factories use silver to make solar panels, electronics, and electric vehicles, so demand for it depends on the real economy.

These two forces rarely move together. The January jump to $121 was driven by a strong monetary backdrop, with war, inflation, and a physical shortage attracting investors. The current drop is due to a weakening in the monetary side, as interest rates and the dollar have moved against silver.

Meanwhile, the industrial demand continues steadily in the background. Factories keep making solar panels even if the Fed is expected to raise rates, and they do not sell off their silver stocks just because the dollar is stronger. This steady industrial demand gives silver a price floor that metals used only for investment lack, even when prices are falling sharply.

Why Such a Small Market Moves So Violently


Silver is a small market, which explains its big price swings. The total value of silver mined each year is much less than gold and tiny compared to global stocks and bonds. This means even a small change in investor money can move silver’s price much more than it would in a bigger market.

Most silver price changes happen through paper trading, not actual metal. One COMEX futures contract equals 5,000 ounces, and the number of contracts traded daily is much higher than the amount of real silver exchanged. This means traders’ moves in these paper positions set the daily price, so investment sentiment can outweigh the slow-moving physical shortage in the short term.

This week, forced selling added more pressure. A big drop in US tech stocks and a crypto market that has lost over half its value since late 2025 led some investors to sell whatever they could to raise cash and cover losses. In this rush for liquidity, investors sell the assets they can, which is why silver, even in shortage, can fall 12% in two days. Silver also tends to move two to three times more than gold in both directions, so when gold fell below $4,000 this week, silver dropped even more.

The Shortage Is Real, but Investors Now Hold It Open


In 2026, the deficit increased to 46.3 million ounces from 40.3 million in 2025, marking the sixth year in a row that more silver was used than produced. Since 2021, this ongoing shortfall has removed 762.1 million ounces from above-ground stocks, which is almost nine months of total global mine output.

Factory demand is actually going down, which changes who is keeping the market in shortage. Solar panel makers cut their silver use by 6% in 2025 and plan to cut another 19% in 2026, down to about 151 million ounces, because silver’s share of a solar cell’s cost rose from about 8% to over 20% during the price rally. Jewelry demand is expected to fall 16% to a five-year low, and silverware demand is down about 20%. High prices have led buyers to use less.

As factories reduce their demand, investors are now the main reason for the ongoing shortage. Physical coin and bar demand went up 14% in 2025 and is expected to rise another 18% in 2026, with US retail buying set to jump 57%. This is the same investor money that left the market this week, which helps explain how a 'record shortage' and a 'crashing price' can occur at the same time. The shortage now depends on buyers who are most likely to leave when interest rates go up.

The Supply That Cannot Answer the Price


Normally, a record shortage would bring more silver to the market, but silver supply hardly responds to its own price. About 70% of the world’s silver is produced as a byproduct of mining gold, copper, lead, and zinc, so the amount mined depends more on demand for those metals than on silver’s price.

Mine output stayed around 813 million ounces in 2025 and is slowly rising to 820 million in 2026, but total supply is expected to drop about 2% as last year’s recycling boom fades. Mexico, Peru, and China are the top producers, and most of their silver comes from base-metal mines that do not focus on silver. Starting a new primary silver mine takes over eight years from discovery to production, so a shortage found in 2026 cannot be fixed with new metal this decade.

In London, silver available for immediate delivery dropped to a record-low 17% of total vault stock in September 2025, causing lease rates to spike in October. By the end of March 2026, that share recovered to 28%, but Metals Focus says this recovery is real but fragile.

COMEX registered inventories show a similar trend, falling from a peak of 531 million ounces in October 2025 to about 315 million, with 95 million ounces leaving the US in the first two months of 2026.

What the Charts and the Ratio Are Saying at $56


Silver is now clearly oversold, meaning the selling has been fast and deep. The 4-hour Relative Strength Index is near 20, a level that often signals the end of a big move rather than the start of a new one. The price is testing its December 4 low of about $56.45, which buyers are trying to defend.

It is easy to see the next price levels from here. If silver falls below $56.45, it could drop to the mid-$54 range, with the next major support at the November 21 low near $48.64. On the upside, resistance is near $61.40, then around $67, and the 20-day moving average at about $68.09 is the key level silver needs to regain to show the trend has changed.

The gold-silver ratio sums up the bigger picture. It shows how many ounces of silver are needed to buy one ounce of gold, and it has risen to about 68.6 from 50 at silver’s January peak. A ratio in the 60 to 70 range is close to the long-term average, so silver has moved from being expensive compared to gold to about fair value. In the past, this range has often come just before silver starts to outperform again.

What Comes Next: A Floor That Holds and Swings That Don’t Stop


The near term belongs to the dollar and the Fed, not the shortage. The next signal is the Personal Consumption Expenditures inflation report, the Fed’s preferred gauge, with headline inflation expected near 4.1% year over year and core near 3.4%. A hot print hardens the case for a hike and keeps pressure on silver; a soft print is the first thing that could let the metal breathe.

Lower prices are already boosting demand. Western coin and bar demand is expected to rise 20% to a three-year high of 227 million ounces, as retail buyers see the price drop as a buying opportunity.

Three industrial sectors are also growing to fill the gap left by solar, since electric vehicles use 25 to 50 grams of silver compared to 15 to 28 grams in gasoline cars, and AI data centers and power grid expansion are adding new demand that did not exist five years ago. China remains a steady support, having installed a record 315 gigawatts of solar in 2025, increased silver jewelry demand by 5%, and kept its central bank buying gold for 18 months in a row.

For the long term, the key question is whether today’s efforts to use less silver per panel will turn into full substitution, where copper replaces silver completely. Copper is being tested in the leading TOPCon solar design, but it still has reliability issues, and mass adoption is not expected until around 2028 to 2030. This means the current reductions in silver use could still be reversed. The same dollar-forces behind this sell-off also affect energy and reserve markets, as discussed in EBC’s analysis of the shift from the petrodollar to the petroyuan.

Final Thoughts


June 2026 shows that the shortage sets a floor for silver’s price, but the Fed and the dollar decide its day-to-day moves. Silver dropped to $56 as investment money that had pushed it to $121 quickly left after rate-hike odds jumped to 83% and the dollar reached a one-year high. A tech-stock selloff also forced more selling to raise cash. Now, the metal that the world still cannot produce enough of is selling at a discount, and the big question is whether lower prices will bring back enough physical buyers to match the silver that supply cannot provide.

 

Silver can't escape a troubling new trend​

Every investor eventually buys one thing not for the upside but for the comfort. It is the asset you tuck away so you can sleep through a bad headline, the one that is supposed to hold its value when stocks wobble, when inflation bites, when the dollar feels shaky. For a generation of savers, precious metals have played that role. They are the financial equivalent of a fire extinguisher, boring until the day you are grateful you own one.

For most of the past 18 months, that fire extinguisher looked like the best trade on the board. A historic rally pulled money out of savings accounts and into coins, bars, and exchange-traded funds, fueled by safe-haven demand, a weaker dollar, and a supply squeeze tied to solar panels and artificial-intelligence hardware. Retail investors who had never owned an ounce suddenly had a position. Financial advisers who had ignored the sector for years started fielding calls.

Then the comfort trade stopped being comfortable. Silver, the metal millions bought precisely because it was supposed to protect them, has fallen more than 50% from its record high and just slid to a fresh six-month low, leaving anyone who bought near the top staring at a loss that no fire extinguisher was supposed to allow.



Silver has crashed below $60, a six-month low and 50% off its record.Yanleth Rivera / Getty Images

How silver became the market's hottest trade


To understand how unsettling this drop feels, you have to remember how good the run was. Silver climbed to a record high above $120 an ounce in late January 2026, posting a gain of roughly 150% for 2025 alone, one of the most violent bull markets any major asset produced this decade, according to Yahoo Finance.

The pitch was easy to believe because silver wears two hats. It is a precious metal investors run to when they are scared, and it is an industrial metal that goes into solar panels, electronics, and the data centers powering artificial intelligence. Demand from those buyers collided with worries that China, a top producer, would curb exports, and prices went vertical.

By late December, silver briefly touched $80 an ounce. Not everyone was convinced it could last. "When it gets this stretched, be careful," Bloomberg Intelligence senior commodity strategist Mike McGlone said, urging bulls to take profits before the move unwound.

What is dragging silver prices lower now


The unwind, when it came, was brutal. Spot silver fell 3.7% to $59.30 an ounce on Wednesday, June 24, its lowest level since Dec. 9, 2025, and its first trip below $60 this year, according to Stockwits. That marks a fresh six-month low and leaves the metal down more than 50% from its peak, according to Seeking Alpha.

The trigger was not exotic. A blowout jobs report landed on June 6, with employers adding 172,000 jobs, more than double the 85,000 economists expected, according to Finance Magnates. The payrolls data comes from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

Strong hiring did to silver what strong hiring always does. It pushed traders to bet on higher interest rates, lifted Treasury yields, and strengthened the dollar, and all three raise the cost of holding an asset that pays no income. The Federal Reserve held its benchmark rate at 3.5% to 3.75% on June 17, its fourth straight hold, and nine of 18 policymakers now project at least one rate hike before year-end, according to Fox Business.

That is a stark turn from the rate cuts markets expected at the start of the year, and silver felt it first. The metal closed below its 200-day moving average on June 9, its first break of that line since April 2025, a signal chart watchers treat as a regime change rather than a dip, according to Finance Magnates.

When I lined silver's collapse up against the calendar, the timing told the whole story. The metal did not crater because anyone stopped needing it in a solar panel or a server rack. It cratered because the price of insurance went up the moment the Fed's next move flipped from a cut to a possible hike.

What the silver sell-off means for your money

For ordinary investors, the pain shows up in the products they actually hold. The iShares Silver Trust (SLV) has dropped more than 15% in 2026, while the SPDR Gold Shares fund (GLD) has fallen about 7%, and silver miners First Majestic (AG), Hecla Mining (HL), and Pan American Silver Corp. (PAAS) each slid nearly 4% in premarket trading, according to Stockwits. Anyone who used 2x or 3x silver funds to chase the rally found out how fast those products erase a year of gains.

Here is the round trip in four numbers:

  • Silver hit a record high above $120 an ounce in late January 2026, capping a run of roughly 150% the year before, according to Yahoo Finance.
  • The metal closed below its 200-day moving average on June 9, its first such break since April 2025, according to Finance Magnates.
  • Spot silver fell below $60 an ounce on June 24 for the first time this year, its weakest level since Dec. 9, 2025, according to Stockwits.
  • JPMorgan's 2026 forecast range for silver still runs from $60 to $90 an ounce, according to Finance Magnates.

What I keep coming back to is the uncomfortable lesson sitting inside those figures. Silver was sold to a lot of people as protection against exactly this kind of inflationary, uncertain stretch, and it has shed half its value while inflation was still running hot.

A hedge that falls apart at the moment you reach for it is not really a hedge. It is a bet wearing safer clothes.

The bulls are not gone. Silver's drop has stayed orderly rather than turning into a panic, and "I see very limited downside after such a massive decline and expect huge upside," RM Capital Consulting founder Rashad Hajiyev wrote on X. Investor Peter Schiff argued that markets are pricing in rate hikes that may never arrive, which he sees as fuel for a rebound in metals once the fear fades.

The bears point at the chart. Technical analysts have flagged support near $55 and $46 an ounce, with some projections pointing all the way to $30 if those floors give way, according to Finance Magnates.

The next few economic prints will decide which side is right. If inflation keeps climbing and the Fed follows through on the hikes its own projections now show, silver's biggest enemy stays parked in the room. If the labor market cracks and rate cuts return to the table, the same metal that just halved could find a bottom in a hurry. Either way, the people who bought silver so they would stop worrying about the market are now watching it as closely as any stock they own.

 
What about the non-stackers and the Joe 6 Packs, that jumped in the pool in December or January, and doesn't want to take anymore losses?
Big dummies. If they sell now.

Just like the big dummies who sell early their 401k and or other investments early and not only get penalized (taxes) but also charged by their brokers.

I know stuff happens and some people need to sell for what ever reasons. Sad.

We all have to roll with the punches and fight, fight, fight like hell! Sometimes it does pay off.

Unless its a divorce, then like a tornado the paper investments and or trailer/house is all now gone/liquidated, etc !
 
Silver now down to early Dec 2025 levels.

Gold hovers around $4,000, silver holds below $60 — has the shimmer worn off the precious metal rally?​

Gold and silver prices are oscillating around key thresholds as hawkish central banks and inflation fears weigh on the metals — and market watchers see little chance of a meaningful rebound in the near term.

Spot gold was flat at around 5:50 a.m. ET on Thursday, trading at $3,990.17 an ounce after falling below the $4,000 mark in the previous session. The precious yellow metal briefly broke back above $4,000 on Thursday, before retreating again later in the morning. Front-month U.S. gold futures were marginally lower, settling at $4,006.60. Year-to-date, gold is now down by around 7.5%.

Silver prices are also coming under pressure. Spot silver was 0.1% higher at $57.49 an ounce on Thursday morning, rebounding from a loss seen earlier in the day. Silver futures for July delivery were down by 1.2% at $57.41. Spot silver has lost almost 20% of its value since the beginning of the year.

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Precious metals rally stalls​

Both gold and silver enjoyed record-smashing rallies in 2025, surging 66% and 135% respectively over the course of the year.
While the rally continued into early 2026, trade soon turned volatile. Silver futures suffered their biggest single-day blow since the 1980s at the end of January and gold’s safe haven status has been called into question after the outbreak of the U.S.-Iran war in February.

In a note on Wednesday, strategists at Macquarie said all eyes were now on the trajectory of inflation and whether central banks — particularly the Federal Reserve — will tighten policy to keep prices under control.

Macquarie’s said that new Fed Chair Kevin Warsh’s first meeting had taken a “hawkish tone” and that, under his leadership, the central bank has “potential to derail or support prices” in the gold market.

“Post the fallout from the Middle East, which we expect to weigh on global growth into Q3, the eventual upturn in global growth and monetary policy easing cycle should see gold prices trend lower as more investor money transitions out of precious metals,” they said.

“Investors have been taking profit and pivoting towards equities … This creates space for investors to re-enter the precious space, thereby pushing prices back up, but it would likely require a major macro event to reignite interest.”

Profit taking put pressure on silver prices last month, Macquarie said, adding that “price action is back to being macro driven” amid rising expectations of a Fed rate hike.

For silver in particular, bullish investor sentiment fueled by tighter supply, low inventories and strong demand has caused prices to outperform gold, making it more vulnerable to a retracement. And historically silver retraces quickly.”

 
I purchased 90% of the AU I have in 1999.
60% of the silver I have before $6, 25% before $8 and the rest thereafter.

The volatility is eye-watering. I did a bunch of research & found the most underpriced assets, as best as I could surmise, back then. The insurance aspect and lack of counterparty risk made it a deal worthy of doing.

Now, I just sit back and watch.

The volatility? Apparently, I thrive on adrenaline.
And that is what volatility is. Adrenaline in a chart.
 
I purchased 90% of the AU I have in 1999.
60% of the silver I have before $6, 25% before $8 and the rest thereafter.
What about the hundreds of thousands, or millions of people, who jumped in the boat December and January, when they were led to believe Silver was going to $150, $200, or higher...

How are they feeling today, specially if they loaded up their credit card to make these purchases?
 
What about the hundreds of thousands, or millions of people, who jumped in the boat December and January, when they were led to believe Silver was going to $150, $200, or higher...

How are they feeling today, specially if they loaded up their credit card to make these purchases?
Cannot help that. I have more than enough of problems that I have created to worry about.
It is going to those stratospheric #'s. anyway.

The way they are printing cash.
 
What about the hundreds of thousands, or millions of people, who jumped in the boat December and January, when they were led to believe Silver was going to $150, $200, or higher...

How are they feeling today, specially if they loaded up their credit card to make these purchases?
Rarely have I bought gold or silver in the last 25 years that it didn't promptly drop shortly afterwards, but I'd never gotten shaken out of my holdings, as I was convinced it'd be higher later eventually, so just held on and am very glad for it.

None of the latecomers who'd bought in at recent highs, that you seem to be so concerned about, have lost anything, if they hadn't then panic sold out. For any of them that grasp that the fundamentals haven't changed, and are just patiently hanging on to their stack, I'm convinced they'll be very glad they had held firm.

We'll all see someday, one way or the other.

Panic Early, Beat the Rush!
- Shane
 
None of the latecomers who'd bought in at recent highs, that you seem to be so concerned about, have lost anything, if they hadn't then panic sold out. For any of them that grasp that the fundamentals haven't changed, and are just patiently hanging on to their stack, I'm convinced they'll be very glad they had held firm.
Are people who bought silver in December and January selling it?

Yes, many investors who bought silver in December and January are selling it, particularly after a significant price drop in late January 2026, which saw silver prices plunge sharply. This sell-off was driven by profit-taking and market reactions to changes in monetary policy expectations. Silver futures plummeted 31.4% on January 30, 2026, marking a major decline that prompted many to sell.
capital.com guardian-gold.com.au

Current Selling Trends in Silver​

Overview of Recent Market Activity​

Many investors who purchased silver in December 2025 and January 2026 are indeed selling their holdings. This trend follows a significant price drop in late January 2026, where silver prices experienced a dramatic decline.

Reasons for Selling​

The sell-off can be attributed to several key factors:
  • Profit-Taking: Investors who saw gains from their earlier purchases are cashing in on profits.
  • Market Reactions: The sharp decline in silver prices was influenced by changes in monetary policy expectations, particularly following the nomination of Kevin Warsh as the next Chair of the Federal Reserve. This news led to a stronger U.S. dollar, which typically diminishes the appeal of non-yielding assets like silver.

Price Decline Details​

The price of silver futures dropped by 31.4% on January 30, 2026, marking one of the worst days for silver since 1980. This significant decline prompted many investors to sell their positions to avoid further losses.

Conclusion​

In summary, the combination of profit-taking and adverse market conditions has led many investors who bought silver in late 2025 and early 2026 to sell their holdings.
CNBC capital.com
 
Silver……or gold…..are not vulnerable.

Human nature is vulnerable.

Volatility is a product of human nature.

Human nature will not be the deciding factor, regarding silver, long term.

The deciding factor will be the laws of physics.
The law of physics, to me, means that they will cast their silver, and it will land in the streets.
 
A STORM IS COMING K.S. I am predicting this storm...friggin HERE AND NOW...
economic...political...environmental(heat)and military problems will arise very..
very..soon. Look closely at Turkey and Egypt for starters. Look forward my friend...NOT BACKWARD. World War in the cards!

NOTE1: Caps used just for emphasis..
not shouting.
Note2: Prepare and persevere..
Note3: I wish you and the membership GOOD TIDINGS.

Note4: I woke up from a deep sleep to write this...by the way.
 
So, what was the trigger, that made you wake up, and post that? What news story or article, or tweet, or video, triggered that post?
So, what was the trigger, that made you wake up, and post that? What news story or article, or tweet, or video, triggered that post?
No dream ...just a strong feeling which normally comes when I issue a FUNG ALERT. I didn't want to do that...so I posted my strong feelings here. Oh..
what prompted me to post? It's 80 degrees in my house...electric for a large portion of my town went off. Dogs let me know how hot it was....bless their hearts.

Note1: I am not here to argue..
.that is counterproductive. I wish you success in all your undertakings. That being said K.S. my feelings are WRITTEN IM STONE. Take care and BE WELL.
 
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