CORONA Simple. Want to defeat the vaccination mandate?

Stanb999

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Ask you they didnt limit food to the fatties who have an actual risk of dieing. Want to save folks limit food. It's a fat basturd risk. So limit it for them. By stopping the ability to get food for the over 25 bmi.
 

Hi-D

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Yea lets put a fit bit on everyone and track them. Forget it, let us just chip them. Second thought.
 

Stanb999

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He is talking Body mass index. Body mass index - Wikipedia
Thank you. The fatter the fatty. The more likely they are to have consequences of covid19. Does it stand to reason that prohibiting excess food intake would lower the deaths more than the vaccine? 30 to 50 % die cause their fat asses. Few die without vaccines. They wish to force vaccination... what about limits on food which would actually make a health difference.
 

Hi-D

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Thank you. The fatter the fatty. The more likely they are to have consequences of covid19. Does it stand to reason that prohibiting excess food intake would lower the deaths more than the vaccine? 30 to 50 % die cause their fat asses. Few die without vaccines. They wish to force vaccination... what about limits on food which would actually make a health difference.
I know what you mean my BMI is around 7% but it always has been. I ride Specialized. When I was young I ran distance loooong distance. I did walk 12 Monday with a friend but at this age I like my mtn. bike.
 

Hi-D

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BMI is the worst kind of junk science. Trying to establish overall health based on a simple ratio of height and weight is like trying to tell how likely a car is to explode based on its mileage alone.
Wrestlers use a scale or you can dunk.
 

Stanb999

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BMI is the worst kind of junk science. Trying to establish overall health based on a simple ratio of height and weight is like trying to tell how likely a car is to explode based on its mileage alone.
Have a doctor confirm the fatties vs the muscular. Easy solution. :) The weight lifter gets a pass. The land whale gets the limits.
 

Stanb999

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You could probably post the information without being insulting. But whatever floats your boat
What's the insult? This is the real science. Fatties have a huge risk. Not so for the rest. As a society we should protect those most at risk. I'd say stopping them from eating by force will have a better outcome than mandatory vaccinations. :)
 

Stanb999

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Yep, in a basic sense. Alternatively this pandemic could be over in 60 to 90 days. Forced limited food. Works everytime weight loss is a necessity.
 

Stanb999

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Lastly, this was a thought exercise. It was to show the absurdity of forced vaccination vs other forced actions that could have the same or greater effect if one follows the science.

Thanks.
 

Hi-D

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Lastly, this was a thought exercise. It was to show the absurdity of forced vaccination vs other forced actions that could have the same or greater effect if one follows the science.

Thanks.
Deaths to covid in Harney County Oregon. Very few here have worn masks through the whole thing. Schools kept going but limited at times and the bars were open.

deaths to covid harney county oregon - Google Search
 

Stanb999

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Deaths to covid in Harney County Oregon. Very few here have worn masks through the whole thing. Schools kept going but limited at times and the bars were open.

deaths to covid harney county oregon - Google Search
Less than know one... a few percent fatties and 80+ years old. While losing old folks is hard and their experience and potential teaching can never be replaced most old folks dont teach or have useful experiences to share. The few are gems that will be missed. Simply, Most old are like the young. Simply wrong that get lucky with the lottery or otherwise.
 

summerthyme

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BMI is the worst kind of junk science. Trying to establish overall health based on a simple ratio of height and weight is like trying to tell how likely a car is to explode based on its mileage alone.
AMEN! Our second son is very heavy boned... built like a body builder and has a 33" waist on a 6' frame, and is 9% body fat at 41. He pays a huge premium for life insurance because his BMI (muscle weighs more than fat, remember) is 31! They call him obese! And there is NO recourse! But by all means, let's start more stupid enforcement based on more junk science.

How about this: we stop paying people to stay home healthy, we encourage everyone to get out and take all those jobs going begging.? Those in dire risk categories (immunosuppressed, diabetic, obese) can be OFFERED help to manage their condition. But honestly, if feeling good, not being constantly ill and in pain, and knowing you are shortening your life isn't enough incentive to get in better shape, no mandate short of the North Korean Prison Special diet is going to help.

You may be unaware, but there is a significant population, heavily weighted towards women, who due to a combination of factors (thrifty genes, hormones, your dieting, insulin resistance, PCOS, and much more) can live on, and maintain their weight on under 1000 calories. And before the knee-jerk reactions start, this is documented in several clinics and studies. For *most* of us, calories still are the biggest factor, with the type of calories a close second (this could be reversed, but I believe the keto diet suppresses appetite and reduces caloric intake, without it being actively attempted).

But for a significant group, it's not. And it's a difficult, complex health issue. The last thing anynof them need is an experimental injection!

ANY "HERD MEDICINE"LAWS VIOLATE OUR PERSONAL SOVEREIGNTY. And since these injections absolutely do NOT prevent you from catching COVID, do NOT prevent you from spreading COVID, do not prevent you from being hospitalized from COVID, and don't even prevent you from dying from COVID...

We then get into vitally important considerations such as risk;benefit ratios. In a land long ago, we would have called up our personal physician, asked his opinion, which he would base on knowledge of your health history, and often several members of your immediate family. He would remember that terrifying bout of anaphylaxis when you were turning blue in his floor, after a "routine " flu vax, and HE sure isn't willing to see it happen again if he can prevent it. So.. he'll recommend against 8t, or to st least have it done in the emergency room.

These days 'good luck! You're on your own. Pretty much in every way. God help us all!

Summerthyme
 

psychrn

Senior Member
Ask you they didnt limit food to the fatties who have an actual risk of dieing. Want to save folks limit food. It's a fat basturd risk. So limit it for them. By stopping the ability to get food for the over 25 bmi.
How about we limit food to the grammatically challenged? Or those who can't spell, formulate a complete sentence, or punctuate correctly?

Maybe this stupid analogy was meant to be ironic and show the futility of the current Covid approach, but some, considered by you to be a "fattie", would probably like to pound your face in.
 

Stanb999

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How about we limit food to the grammatically challenged? Or those who can't spell, formulate a complete sentence, or punctuate correctly?

Maybe this stupid analogy was meant to be ironic and show the futility of the current Covid approach, but some, considered by you to be a "fattie", would probably like to pound your face in.
And that was the idea. ;)
 

Kathy in FL

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And that was the idea. ;)

Well you missed the mark. Big time. You sound more like you have a pickled frontal lobe than that you are making a sound argument. Especially posting it in bites that don't really convey a sound argument even if you did mean it to be absurd. You made yourself sound absurd rather than the argument.
 

NCGirl

Veteran Member
AMEN! Our second son is very heavy boned... built like a body builder and has a 33" waist on a 6' frame, and is 9% body fat at 41. He pays a huge premium for life insurance because his BMI (muscle weighs more than fat, remember) is 31! They call him obese! And there is NO recourse! But by all means, let's start more stupid enforcement based on more junk science.

How about this: we stop paying people to stay home healthy, we encourage everyone to get out and take all those jobs going begging.? Those in dire risk categories (immunosuppressed, diabetic, obese) can be OFFERED help to manage their condition. But honestly, if feeling good, not being constantly ill and in pain, and knowing you are shortening your life isn't enough incentive to get in better shape, no mandate short of the North Korean Prison Special diet is going to help.

You may be unaware, but there is a significant population, heavily weighted towards women, who due to a combination of factors (thrifty genes, hormones, your dieting, insulin resistance, PCOS, and much more) can live on, and maintain their weight on under 1000 calories. And before the knee-jerk reactions start, this is documented in several clinics and studies. For *most* of us, calories still are the biggest factor, with the type of calories a close second (this could be reversed, but I believe the keto diet suppresses appetite and reduces caloric intake, without it being actively attempted).

But for a significant group, it's not. And it's a difficult, complex health issue. The last thing anynof them need is an experimental injection!

ANY "HERD MEDICINE"LAWS VIOLATE OUR PERSONAL SOVEREIGNTY. And since these injections absolutely do NOT prevent you from catching COVID, do NOT prevent you from spreading COVID, do not prevent you from being hospitalized from COVID, and don't even prevent you from dying from COVID...

We then get into vitally important considerations such as risk;benefit ratios. In a land long ago, we would have called up our personal physician, asked his opinion, which he would base on knowledge of your health history, and often several members of your immediate family. He would remember that terrifying bout of anaphylaxis when you were turning blue in his floor, after a "routine " flu vax, and HE sure isn't willing to see it happen again if he can prevent it. So.. he'll recommend against 8t, or to st least have it done in the emergency room.

These days 'good luck! You're on your own. Pretty much in every way. God help us all!

Summerthyme


BMI is total junk. One of my biggest issues is that it's the same for men and women. No way should an "average" man of 5'8" weigh the same as a 5'8" woman. So men are automatically penalized based on the fact that they are men.
 

Stanb999

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Well you missed the mark. Big time. You sound more like you have a pickled frontal lobe than that you are making a sound argument. Especially posting it in bites that don't really convey a sound argument even if you did mean it to be absurd. You made yourself sound absurd rather than the argument.
So you couldn't follow the commentary?

So sorry.
 

Kathy in FL

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So you couldn't follow the commentary?

So sorry.

To be honest you didn't really want anyone to follow the commentary, you just wanted to blather and then throw in a gotcha at the end to stroke your own commentary ego. No biggie. You do have smart ass down to a science but not much else if this is going to be your style here on TB2K.
 

Hfcomms

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Lastly, this was a thought exercise. It was to show the absurdity of forced vaccination vs other forced actions that could have the same or greater effect if one follows the science.

Thanks.


The vaccinations have never been about getting rid of Covid. They love Covid as it’s a means to an end. Covid was conjured up for the vaccines and not the other way around. Getting people injected with toxins was the plan from the start. We will see the ‘fruits’ from this in the coming months.
 

Hi-D

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BMI is total junk. One of my biggest issues is that it's the same for men and women. No way should an "average" man of 5'8" weigh the same as a 5'8" woman. So men are automatically penalized based on the fact that they are men.
That is why you dunk. Total immersion(water displacement). You have a problem with insurance, then other than having a autopsy this is the only way. Body Mass Index, not for bodybuilders. (home-gym-bodybuilding.com)
 
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