If they try and enforce this they are not LEO, they are armed robbers.
GUNS/RLTD ‘Seize and Destroy’ – Federal Lawmakers Reintroduce Confiscatory Ban on ‘High-Capacity’ Magazines
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von Koehler
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You are being an optimist if you think they will let you have these "weapons of war."
Someone please correct me but didn't New York state government make a similar law and hardly anything was turned in?
155 arty
Veteran Member
Just go ahead and ban all things guns and gun related and make it so they can go house to house seizing guns ...do it rfn it is time ...time to get it the freak on that is'Seize and Destroy' - Federal Lawmakers Reintroduce Confiscatory Ban on ‘High-Capacity’ Magazines - GunsAmerica Digest
‘Seize and Destroy’ – Federal Lawmakers Reintroduce Confiscatory Ban on ‘High-Capacity’ Magazines
by S.H. BLANNELBERRY on APRIL 14, 2021
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Schmeisser 60-round AK mags. (Photo: Schmeisser)
U.S. Senator Bob Menendez (D-NJ) and Congressman Ted Deutch (D-FL) reintroduced on Wednesday the Keep Americans Safe Act, a confiscatory ban on magazines with a capacity over ten rounds.
In addition to banning the importation, sale, manufacturing, transfer, or possession of what they call “high-capacity magazines,” the bill includes the following measures:
“The Keep Americans Safe Act is a common sense piece of legislation that will save lives and will finally limit the sale of large capacity magazines that are designed for killing as many people as possible without having to stop and reload,” said Sen. Menendez in a press release obtained by GunsAmerica.
- Provides limited exceptions for devices possessed before enactment, for certain current and former law enforcement personnel, for certain Atomic Energy personnel and purpose, for tubular devices that can only accept .22 rimfire ammunition, and for certain authorized testing or experimentation;
- Modifies the high-capacity definition to prevent coupled or joined magazines;
- Authorizes a buyback program for high capacity magazines using Byrne JAG grants;
- Requires devices manufactured after enactment to have conspicuous serial numbers and date of manufacture to help law enforcement identify restricted magazines;
- Harmonizes forfeiture provisions for magazines with current law; currently FBI and ATF can seize and destroy certain firearms but not high capacity magazines.
“We can no longer afford to do nothing as the scourge of gun violence continues to ravage communities across the country, and must address this as the real emergency that it is,” he continued.
Rep. Deutch likewise expressed a need for outlawing these commonly owned accessories.
SEE ALSO: Vermont Supreme Court Upholds Ban on Standard Capacity Magazines
“As President Biden told the country, there is absolutely no need for high-capacity magazines that can hold 100 rounds, 50 rounds, or 30 rounds: not for sport, not for self-defense, not for law-abiding gun owners,” he argued.
“These are the magazines of choice in mass shootings because they maximize human casualties,” he added. “This bill helps to significantly reduce the number of casualties in horrific mass shootings that have returned to the headlines in recent weeks. Congress must not turn away from these tragedies; we must take action to save lives.”
Mark Oliva, the Director of Public Affairs for the National Shooting Sports Foundation, slammed the duo for “proposing to put a limit in the amount of self-defense Americans can use to protect themselves and their loved ones.”
“We know criminals don’t obey the law and this won’t stop the criminal misuse of firearms. This will only disarm those who follow the law,” he added.
Oliva also questioned the interesting timing of the legislation.
“Senator Menendez and Congressman Deutch are ignoring right now in Brooklynn, Minnesota, Black men are protecting Black-owned businesses with black rifles, fitted with these magazines,” he explained. “While other businesses burn, these businesses are untouched because of the lawful use of firearms to defend life and property.
“Senator Menendez and Congressman Deutch weren’t sent to Washington, D.C. to make it easier for criminals to prey on Americans. They should adhere to their oath of office, do their job and protect the rights of their constituents,” he concluded.
In short, this legislation is confiscation. This legislation is infringement. This legislation is unconstitutional.
When anti-gun advocates and politicians claim that they are “not coming for our guns,” like Vice President Kamala Harris literally said less than a month ago in an interview with CBS This Morning, DO NOT BELIEVE THEM!!!
They are coming for our lawfully owned firearms and accessories. The “Keep Americans Safe Act” is a testament to this truth.
NoDandy
Has No Life - Lives on TB
If they make it law, naturally, the Govt & their employees will be EXEMPT !!!Would the cap limit apply to every person, department, branch and agency?
155 arty
Veteran Member
You won't be sitting it out they will not let you
Blacknarwhal
Let's Go Brandon!
Oh, it's already too late for most of us. We're already plotting how to make a gun-toting horse an action hero.
Tex88
Veteran Member
Every “reasonable compromise” is just chipping away until nothing is left.
Well, not a horse, but a quadruped...
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The Zumbooruck, Or Camel Gun. - Civilian Military Intelligence Group
The Zumbooruck, Or Camel Gun.
February 21, 2014 / 1 Comment / Weaponry / By Catfish / camel gun, zumbooruck
The Zumboorucks was a thoroughly Arab invention at the end of the dynastic era of Eqyptian kings. Camels were festooned with huge ceremonial drums or other martial bands accompanying armies. The idea was adopted quickly by the Mughals and the Afghans. It was bound to happen although I have never heard of a horse mounted cannon or gun.
It wasn’t long before the 18th century desert armies mounted a cannon or rifle on a swivel and had a sort of light field artillery. In the 1850s, Gatling Guns were loaded upon Camels, pictured below.
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The Zumbooruck, Or Camel Gun. - Civilian Military Intelligence Group
The Zumbooruck, Or Camel Gun.
February 21, 2014 / 1 Comment / Weaponry / By Catfish / camel gun, zumbooruck
The Zumboorucks was a thoroughly Arab invention at the end of the dynastic era of Eqyptian kings. Camels were festooned with huge ceremonial drums or other martial bands accompanying armies. The idea was adopted quickly by the Mughals and the Afghans. It was bound to happen although I have never heard of a horse mounted cannon or gun.
It wasn’t long before the 18th century desert armies mounted a cannon or rifle on a swivel and had a sort of light field artillery. In the 1850s, Gatling Guns were loaded upon Camels, pictured below.
Dobbin
Faithful Steed
Travois is what Owner calls the "pull" version (no wheels.)
Travois - Wikipedia
Dobbin
Groucho
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Don't plan to sit this one out. Why would you say that?
Ractivist
Pride comes before the fall.....Pride month ended.
When are the people going to explain that the reason we have and will keep the largest capacity mags we want is due to the obvious concerns of the communist coup upon our nation from within........
geez, don’t those usurpers understand the history of this nation and the absolute rights we have, which trump their bogus attempts to disarm those who will fight their tyranny. Domestic terrorist being the equivalent to a patriot who and is prepared to protect what is rightly ours, freedom.
why is this message not front and center at all times...........? Cut to the chase. This mags for you.
geez, don’t those usurpers understand the history of this nation and the absolute rights we have, which trump their bogus attempts to disarm those who will fight their tyranny. Domestic terrorist being the equivalent to a patriot who and is prepared to protect what is rightly ours, freedom.
why is this message not front and center at all times...........? Cut to the chase. This mags for you.
Blacknarwhal
Let's Go Brandon!
Well, not a horse, but a quadruped...
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The Zumbooruck, Or Camel Gun. - Civilian Military Intelligence Group
The Zumbooruck, Or Camel Gun.
February 21, 2014 / 1 Comment / Weaponry / By Catfish / camel gun, zumbooruck
The Zumboorucks was a thoroughly Arab invention at the end of the dynastic era of Eqyptian kings. Camels were festooned with huge ceremonial drums or other martial bands accompanying armies. The idea was adopted quickly by the Mughals and the Afghans. It was bound to happen although I have never heard of a horse mounted cannon or gun.
It wasn’t long before the 18th century desert armies mounted a cannon or rifle on a swivel and had a sort of light field artillery. In the 1850s, Gatling Guns were loaded upon Camels, pictured below.
None of them, however, had the idea to put the triggers in the horse's--or camel's--mouth, letting it do the firing.
Nope... have you ever seen how grumpy a camel is on a cold morning?! The last thing you'd want is to arm them!
Summerthyme
155 arty
Veteran Member
It won't be possible....no one will get out unscathed
Henry Bowman
Veteran Member
Thats ok, just make sure they get more Scathed than you...Remeber, we outnumber and surround them....they do not stand a chance.
All we need is the will.
colonel holman
Veteran Member
”But they are made for killing people, lots of people!”
Best answer to that objection is YES, they are made for killing people. While they are useful in shooting sports and hunting, that is but a mere sideline. They are made for killing people, people who may be in need of killing, such as those who seek to impose their tyranny on us citizens.
Best answer to that objection is YES, they are made for killing people. While they are useful in shooting sports and hunting, that is but a mere sideline. They are made for killing people, people who may be in need of killing, such as those who seek to impose their tyranny on us citizens.
That is the "elephant in the room".
"That which can't be spoken".
The founding fathers didn't care about their posterity's deer hunting.
The last, best tyranny preventer...
“They” most certainly DO understand. They don’t care about RIGHTS. Communists never care about rights. They care about POWER.
Why are you asking that? You already know the answer.
Sicario
The Executor
Ah, so even back then they realized that you don't need 30 rounds. Surely they would have supported a high-cap mag ban.
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Shooter
Veteran Member
Ah, so even back then they realized that you don't need 30 rounds. Surely they would have supported a high-cap mag ban.
Well, they did have the BAR with a 20 rnd mag of 30-06, and the Tompson with 20 or 30 rnd mags plus 50 and 100 rnd drums,
Profit of Doom
Dismember
Muzzle loader.
Henry Bowman
Veteran Member
My weapons all identify as Muzzleloaders
Groucho
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Odd.
subnet
Boot
Democrats are immune to history
and common sense but they are immune to nothing else