BRKG S. Korea: North Korea test fires submarine missile (23 Aug 16) ETA: Flew 300 miles

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S. Korea: North Korea test fires submarine missile

By Azadeh Ansari, CNN
Updated 6:22 PM ET, Tue August 23, 2016


(CNN) — North Korea test fired a submarine-based ballistic missile from the East Sea on Wednesday, said South Korea's Joint Chiefs of Staff.

North Korea's launch took place in the waters off Sinpo, South Hamgyong Province in the early morning.

This comes amid the annual joint military exercise between US and South Korea, which kicked off on Monday.

The annual drill includes 25,000 US troops, the bulk of which are already stationed in Korea, according to a statement by US Forces Korea.

North Korean has made threats of nuclear retaliation if the two-week drill "show the slightest sign of aggression," a spokesman for North Korea's military was quoted as saying by the country's state media.

CNN's Mohammad Tawfeeq, Ryan Browne and Barbara Starr contributed to this report.
 
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World News | Tue Aug 23, 2016 6:27pm EDT

North Korea test-fires submarine-launched ballistic missile: South Korea


North Korea fired a submarine-launched ballistic missile off its east coast, South Korea's military said on Wednesday, the latest in a string of missile launches by the isolated country in defiance of UN Security Council resolutions.

North Korea test-fired the missile at around 5:30 a.m. (4:30 p.m. ET) near the coastal city of Sinpo, where satellite imagery shows a submarine base to be located, an official at South Korea's Joint Chiefs of Staff said.

The launch comes two days after rival South Korea and the United States began annual military exercises in the South that North Korea condemns as a preparation for invasion, and has threatened retaliation.

North Korea has become further isolated after a January nuclear test, its fourth, and the launch of a long-range rocket in February brought tightened UN sanctions.

It has launched numerous missiles of various types this year, including one this month that landed in or near Japanese-controlled waters.

Tensions on the Korean peninsula were exacerbated by the recent defection of North Korea's deputy ambassador in London to South Korea, an embarrassing setback to the regime of North Korean leader Kim Jong Un.


(Reporting by Ju-min Park and Jack Kim; Writing by Tony Munroe; Editing by James Dalgleish)
 

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Latest is this one went 300 miles....


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Launch occurred on east coast of North Korea, off coast of Sinpo, official says. It flew about 300 miles before splashing into Sea of Japan.
 

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US confirms #DPRK launched submarine based ballistic missile - flew 300 miles into Sea of #Japan.
 

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US confirms #DPRK launched submarine based ballistic missile - flew 300 miles into Sea of #Japan.

Adding this to the DPRK getting ready to start building bigger subs (imagine a modern rendition of a Golf SSB) doesn't do my digestion any good.
 

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Adding this to the DPRK getting ready to start building bigger subs (imagine a modern rendition of a Golf SSB) doesn't do my digestion any good.

Did they have to surface to launch? And does anyone know how much payload this missile is capable of?
 

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Did they have to surface to launch? And does anyone know how much payload this missile is capable of?

No they've been launching submerged. Haven't seen a payload guestimate yet but when I do I'll post it.

The added mess to this is that if they've got their solid fueled missiles dialed in that well, their current SCUD and Nodong force is likely to be soon swapped out for much easier to handle, move, hide and shoot solid fueled weapons as well.
 

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World News | Wed Aug 24, 2016 12:04am EDT

North Korea fires submarine-launched ballistic missile towards Japan

By Ju-min Park and Jack Kim | SEOUL

A North Korean submarine fired a ballistic missile on Wednesday that flew about 500 km (311 miles) toward Japan, a show of improving technological capability for the isolated country that has conducted a series of launches in defiance of UN sanctions.

The missile was fired at around 5:30 a.m. (2030 GMT) from near the coastal city of Sinpo, where satellite imagery shows a submarine base is located, officials at South Korea's Joint Chiefs of Staff and the Defence Ministry told Reuters.

The projectile reached Japan's air defense identification zone (ADIZ) for the first time, Chief Cabinet Secretary Yoshihide Suga told a briefing, referring to an area of control designated by countries to help maintain air security.

The distance of the flight indicated the North's push to develop a submarine-launched missile system was paying off, officials and rocketry experts said.

North Korea's "SLBM (submarine-launched ballistic missile) technology appears to have progressed," a South Korean military official told Reuters.

The U.S. Strategic Command said it had tracked what it believed to be a KN-11 submarine-launched ballistic missile and confirmed it flew about 300 miles.

"I think it was probably successful," said Jeffrey Lewis of the California-based Middlebury Institute of International Studies. "We don't know the full range, but 500 km is either full range or a full range on a lofted trajectory. Either way, that missile works."

The launch comes two days after rival South Korea and the United States began annual military exercises in the South that North Korea condemns as a preparation for invasion, and has threatened retaliation.

China's Xinhua news agency said the launch could be seen as a response to the drills, calling the exercises "a dangerous game."

Beijing is Pyongyang's main ally but has joined past U.N. Security Council resolutions against the North. It has been angered by what it views as provocative moves by the United States and South Korea, including their July decision to base an advanced anti-missile system in South Korea.

South Korea's Foreign Ministry condemned the launch and warned of more sanctions and isolation for its rival that "will only speed up its self-destruction."

The launch came on the same day that the foreign ministers of China, Japan and South Korea were scheduled to meet in Tokyo.

"This poses a grave threat to Japan's security, and is an unforgivable act that damages regional peace and stability markedly," Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe told reporters, adding that Japan had lodged a stern protest.


GROWING ISOLATION

North Korea has become further isolated after a January nuclear test, its fourth, and the launch of a long-range rocket in February which brought tightened UN sanctions.

It has launched numerous missiles of various types this year, including one this month that landed in or near Japanese-controlled waters.


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Joshua Pollack, editor of the U.S.-based Nonproliferation Review, said a claim to having mastered the SLBM technology is as much about prestige as a military breakthrough, a status enjoyed only by six countries including the United States, Russia and China.

"I think it's meant foremost as a demonstration of sheer technical capability and a demand for status and respect," Pollack said.

South Korea believes the North has a fleet of more than 70 ageing, limited-range submarines - a mix of Chinese, Russian and locally made boats. Acquiring a fleet of submarines large and quiet enough and with a longer range would be a next step for the North, experts said.

"They keep conducting nuclear tests and SLBMs together which means they are showing they can arm SLBMs with miniaturized nuclear warheads," said Moon Keun-sik, a retired South Korean navy officer and an expert in submarine warfare.

North Korea said this year it had miniaturized a nuclear warhead to fit on a ballistic missile but outside experts have said there is yet to be firm evidence to back up the claim.

Tensions on the Korean peninsula were exacerbated by the recent defection of North Korea's deputy ambassador in London to South Korea, an embarrassing setback to the regime of North Korean leader Kim Jong Un.

The North's missile tests this year include a launch from a submarine last month that appeared to have failed, according to South Korea's military.


(Additional reporting by James Pearson and Yun Hwan Chae in Seoul, Phil Stewart and David Alexander in Washington, Ben Blanchard in Beijing and Kiyoshi Takenaka in Tokyo; Writing by Tony Munroe; Editing by Lincoln Feast)
 

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World News | Wed Aug 24, 2016 2:30am EDT

Japan, China, South Korea to urge North Korea to stop provocation

By Kiyoshi Takenaka and Xiao Yu | TOKYO

Japan, China and South Korea agreed to urge North Korea to refrain from provocation and follow U.N. Security Council resolutions, after its latest missile launch towards Japan early on Wednesday.

Foreign ministers from the three Asian neighbours also sought to soothe their often-testy relations, and have reached an understanding on a trilateral summit meeting in Japan this year, a Japanese official said.

"We have confirmed that we will urge North Korea to exercise self-restraint regarding its provocative action, and to observe the U.N. Security Council's resolutions," Japanese Foreign Minister Fumio Kishida told a news conference after hosting the meeting with his Chinese and South Korean counterparts.

A North Korean submarine fired a ballistic missile on Wednesday that flew about 500 km (300 miles) towards Japan, a show of improving technological capability for the isolated country that has conducted a nuclear test and as series of missile launches this year in defiance of UN sanctions.

In the face of the North Korean threat, cooperation among Japan, China and South Korea was more important than ever, Kishida said after his meeting with China's Wang Yi and South Korea's Yun Byung-se.

Yun promised South Korea's support to realise a trilateral summit by year's end, as well as to cooperate economically and to achieve a successful summit of the Group of 20 big economies next month in China.

Wang said China opposed North Korea's nuclear and missile programmes and any "words or actions" that cause tension on the Korean peninsula, China's foreign ministry said in a statement.

China will continue to push for the peninsula's denuclearisation, seek a resolution through talks and uphold regional peace and stability, Wang added.

The three ministers share the understanding that Japan will host a trilateral summit this year, though dates have yet to be worked out, a Japanese Foreign Ministry official told reporters.


'MANY PROBLEMS'

Relations between the three big Asian economies are often difficult with the legacy of Japan's wartime aggression affecting ties between it and China and South Korea, territorial disputes hurting links between Japan and China, and Japan and South Korea, and China suspicious of the others' U.S. ties.The meeting marked the first visit to Japan by a Chinese foreign minister since the Japanese government took over three of the tiny islands at the centre of a dispute with China, from private Japanese owners in September 2012.

"Trilateral cooperation is a very important part of East Asian cooperation," Wang told his counterparts at the beginning of the meeting.


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"There are many problems existing between the three countries, but China, Japan and South Korea are the three biggest economy entities in Asia. It's our responsibility to promote economic development, lead regional cooperation and maintain regional peace and stability."

China's state-run Xinhua news agency said Wang's willingness to go to Tokyo showed "China's sufficient sincerity to cooperate with Japan and South Korea".

At the same time, it warned Japan and South Korea to "abandon the Cold War mentality and view the peaceful rise of China as vigour to regional development", while avoiding "being the tools for some countries outside the region to undermine regional stability."

Wednesday's meeting had earlier appeared in doubt after a flare-up in Sino-Japanese tension over their dispute over tiny islands in the East China Sea.

South Korea and Japan have a territorial dispute over small islands about half way between their mainlands.

Tensions have also been escalating between South Korea and China over a decision by Seoul and Washington to deploy an advanced anti-missile defence, which the allies say is meant to counter growing threats from North Korea.


(Reporting by Kiyoshi Takenaka and Xiao Yu; Additional reporting by Nobuhiro Kubo in Tokyo and Ben Blanchard and David Stanway in Beijing; Editing by Chang-Ran Kim, Robert Birsel)
 

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Merde......They did that with the Musudan IRBM test as well....

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North Korea's sub-launched missile flew at high angle: Yonhap

Published: 2:20 PM, August 24, 2016

SEOUL - The North Korean submarine-launched ballistic missile fired on Wednesday flew at a high trajectory and has a range of more than 1,000 kilometers (620 miles) at a normal angle, South Korea's Yonhap News Agency said, without citing a source.

The missile traveled about 500 km, South Korean officials said.

The Yonhap report also said North Korea used solid fuel and succeeded in separating first and second stages of the rocket.

South Korea's Defense Ministry was not immediately available to comment. REUTERS
 

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Well, heck, how do they defend against first strike?

I dunno. "Sitting ducks" comes to mind.

Is NK really a suicide bomber? Or just more positioning?

Phone rings and night SCIF (Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility) clerk answers...."Hoshiro, go to the cabinet with the DVDs labeled "special project"...the courier is waiting downstairs to run it over to Mitsubishi"....
 

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North Korea's latest ballistic missile launch reveals its alarming progress

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The defiant ballistic-missile tests from the Hermit Kingdom continue.

On Wednesday at approximately 5:30 a.m. local time, North Korea fired a submarine-launched ballistic missile (SLBM) near the coastal city of Sinpo.

US Strategic Command (STRATCOM) detected and tracked the presumed KN-11 missile over the Sea of Japan.

"The North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) determined the missile launch from North Korea did not pose a threat to North America," STRATCOM said in a statement.

This is the first time a North Korean missile reached Japan's air defence identification zone (ADIZ), Chief Cabinet Secretary Yoshihide Suga said during a briefing.

According to Jeffrey Lewis of the California-based Middlebury Institute of International Studies and founder of Arms Control Wonk, the rogue nation's latest test appears to be a success.

"We don't know the full range, but 500 km is either full range or a full range on a lofted trajectory. Either way, that missile works," Lewis told Reuters.

The North first attempted a submarine-based missile launch last year and again at the end of April this year. A South Korean military official told Reuters that North Korea's "SLBM technology appears to have progressed."

South Korea's Joint Chiefs of Staff said the launch appears to be an apparent protest against the annual Ulchi Freedom Guardian military drill between Seoul and Washington.

Earlier this month, Pyongyang simultaneously launched two "No Dong" intermediate-range ballistic missiles near the western city of Hwangju.

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North Korea's first missile that landed in or near Japanese-controlled waters. Reuters

According to STRATCOM, one of the missiles exploded immediately after launch, while the other was tracked over North Korea before ultimately landing in the Sea of Japan. Notably, that was the first time that the rogue nation had ever targeted Japan.

Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe described the launch as a "grave threat" to Japan and said that Tokyo "strongly protested." Japan also said that its self-defense force would remain on alert in case of further defiant launches from the North.

According to Oh Joon, South Korea's UN ambassador, North Korea has conducted 13 rounds of ballistic-missile tests and has fired 29 various rockets.

Meanwhile, China, Pyongyang's closest ally, said that North Korean missile tests have expanded since the bilateral decision between Seoul and Washington to deploy THAAD.

Mad about THAAD

In July, the South Korean defense ministry announced that the Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) missile-defense system would be deployed to Seongju in order to counter North Korean threats.

Following that announcement, the Hermit Kingdom fired three ballistic missiles that had a range — between 300 and 360 miles — capable of reaching all of South Korea.

As one of the most advanced missile-defense systems in the world, THAAD interceptors are able to identify and obliterate incoming enemy threats inside and outside of the atmosphere.

In conjunction with the approximately 28,500 US forces in South Korea, Seoul plans to have the unique air-defense system operational by the end of 2017.

Pressure to deploy THAAD was spurred after Pyongyang tested its fourth nuclear bomb on January 6 and then launched a long-range rocket on February 7.

US Army Gen. Charles Jacoby, former commander of NORAD stressed the importance of deploying THAAD to protect the Korean Peninsula and US interests during a Hudson Institute discussion.

"The truth of the matter is THAAD was really the logical choice, and after intense debate and trying to assess what the complexities of the environment might hold ... we really can't get in a world where we refuse to defend ourselves," Jacoby said.

"There is still US forces there, they are playing a defense role, and they are at risk every day to a host of threats that now include the potential for ballistic-missile-carried weapons of mass destruction ... We cannot not act," Jacoby added.

Similarly, during a discussion at the Brookings Institution, CIA Director John Brennan said that the deployment of THAAD to the region was an "obligation" on behalf of the US.

"We have certain obligations to our partners and the region so that the appropriate steps are taken to reassure our friends, partners, and allies of US commitment to the security of that area," Brennan told Business Insider.


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Monitoring the Threat: a Timeline of North Korean Missile Tests 2013-2016

By 38 North
24 August 2016
Introduction by John Schilling

In a simpler time, it was sufficient to google “North Korean 2006 Missile Test” and find that, yes, the North Koreans conducted a single missile test in 2006 along with all the accompanying data known. But things aren’t that simple anymore. Now if you search for information on “the North Korean 2014 missile test,” 15 separate events pop up. To address this new complexity, 38 North has developed a timeline of North Korea’s missile tests from 2013 to the present to help understand and track trends in the North’s missile development.

On the right side of the timeline are all the firings of North Korea’s operational missile systems: mostly Scuds, the occasional Nodong and increasingly the new KN-02 “Toksa.” These tests are now conducted a dozen or so times a year. It is almost misleading to call these “tests” anymore, as they may be better designated as training exercises, demonstrations of power, or both. North Korea has enough of these missiles to be willing to expend a dozen or so per year. Moreover, it has become clear over the past few years that the missiles are reliable enough for wartime use, and their crews are trained and experienced in using them.

On the left are the real tests: the flight and ground experiments with the North’s more ambitious systems still under development. A decade ago, North Korea would have had only one new missile under development at a time, and would conduct a test maybe once in a year. Now it has the Unha satellite launch vehicle, the Musudan intermediate-range ballistic missile, and the KN-11/ Bukkeukseong-1 submarine-launched ballistic missile flying almost back to back. In the latter two cases, roughly half a dozen tests have been conducted in the past year alone. Other developments include ground test activity for the new KN-08/KN-14 intercontinental ballistic missile and a yet-unnamed solid-propellant intermediate-range ballistic missile presumed under development.

What is particularly unprecedented is that the North Koreans are showing most of these tests and exercises of power to the international community, including ground tests that they could have kept hidden. They have their reasons, most of which presumably fall into the category of propaganda. But their propaganda is raw data for analysts. For instance, information was nebulous around the first-stage engines of the KN-08, and the large solid-fuel rocket engine program was a complete unknown, until the North Korean media released the corresponding images. Similarly, the extent of North Korea’s modifications to the Musudan, even after it had successfully flown, remained unknown until the North released new photos. Possibly parts of what we are being shown are misdirection. But if they are playing a shell game, analysts should be using every resource available to keep track of every moving ball and cup.

This timeline will be updated as North Korea continues to conduct missile tests.

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Preparations for North Korean Missile Test Caught on Satellite Imagery

By 38 North
24 August 2016

A 38 North exclusive with analysis by Joseph S. Bermudez, Jr.

At approximately 5:30 AM local time on August 24, 2016, North Korea conducted what appears to be a successful test of a Bukkeukseong-1 (Polaris-1, KN-11) submarine-launched ballistic missile (SLBM). The missile was launched from the country’s sole GORAE-class experimental ballistic missile submarine that was submerged off the port city of Sinpo and reportedly flew approximately 500 km before impacting the East Sea (Sea of Japan)—within Japan’s Air Defense Identification Zone (ADIZ). This was the third test of the KN-11 this year alone and the most successful test to date.[1]

A commercial satellite image taken at 11:16 AM local time on August 22 of the Sinpo South Shipyard, home port of the GORAE-class submarine, shows what are likely the final preparations for the August 24 test. In the image, a heavy-lift construction crane is positioned directly over the missile launch tube located in the submarine’s conning tower. No missile, or missile shipping container, is visible on the dock or in the immediate area, suggesting that the missile had already been loaded onto the submarine.

Significantly, this test indicates that:
◾North Korea continues to be strongly committed to the long-term development of an operational SLBM and is learning from its previous successes and failures;
◾The North is demonstrating a nascent capability to strike at South Korea with an SLBM, thereby complicating ballistic missile defense planning and operations; and
◾Assuming the current rate of development, while North Korea still faces significant technological challenges including building a new class of submarine to carry the missile, it is on track to develop the capability to strike targets in the region—including Japan—by 2020.

Other activity noted in the August 22 image includes:
◾The submersible test stand barge, which had been moored along the main dock since May, has been moved and is now moored along the north jetty. The reason for this is not readily apparent, but suggests that it has been undergoing maintenance or is being used for some other purpose.
◾At the test stand, the several small vehicles or pieces of equipment seen in the July 30 image are no longer present. Instead, a single vehicle or shipping crate is present and the concrete pad shows heavy tire tracks, which suggests the recent movement of equipment.
◾Construction activity on the point of the Yuktaeso-ri Peninsula for what appears to be a new construction or maintenance hall and L-shaped jetty continues.

Figure 1. Preparation for latest SLBM test seen at Sinpo on August 22, 2016.

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Figure 2. Heavy tracks seen on Sinpo’s test stand.

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Figure 3. Construction continues at the Yuktaeso-ri Peninsula.

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[1] See “Little Activity at North Korea’s Sinpo South Shipyard; Recent Media Reports of New Submarine Pens Nearby Incorrect,” 38 North, August 8, 2016, http://38north.org/2016/08/sinpo080816/; and “North Korea’s Ballistic Missile Submarine: Probable Post-Mission Test Maintenance; Construction Hall Externally Complete,” 38 North, July 20, 2016, http://38north.org/2016/07/sinpo072016/.

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1. Steven Hayden says:

August 24, 2016 at 2:22 pm

What is the range of SLBM? Necessity is the mother of invention.
Sanctions failed.

2. Captain Ned says:

August 24, 2016 at 11:13 am

And if you look at the ground track of that missile test, it was aimed directly at Tokyo. No, no omens there.

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Ten Minutes To Tokyo

By Richard Fernandez
August 23, 2016
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Of course they're bluffing

Depending on how you view it North Korea is either a nuisance or a growing threat to world peace. Today North Korea fired a submarine launched ballistic missile from a port off its east coast to a point more than halfway to Tokyo. "The missile was fired at around 5:30am (local time) from near the coastal city of Sinpo, where satellite imagery shows a submarine base to be located, and flew about 500 kilometres before splashing into the Sea of Japan, US and South Korean officials said. The projectile landed in Japan's air defence identification zone (ADIZ), an area of control designated by countries to help maintain air security, South Korea's Yonhap News Agency reported."

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Getting closer

North Korea's "SLBM (submarine-launched ballistic missile) technology appears to have progressed," a South Korean military official said." The North Korean missile is based on the Soviet Russian R-27. It's primary targets are clearly Japan and South Korea. Wikipedia writes "the KN-11 is the first sign of a North Korean sea-based nuclear deterrent, which complicates the U.S. and South Korean ability to preemptively destroy the country's nuclear capabilities by threatening a second strike. While there is a chance to take out land-based nuclear sites, ballistic missile submarines ensure that a retaliatory strike could still be launched before it can be found and neutralized."

North Korea's unique circumstances limit the ways such a capability could be employed. The Korean People's Navy has no nuclear submarines, and no diesel-electric submarines equipped with air independent propulsion (AIP), so the launch submarine's range (and by extension the missile's) is limited and assuredly prevents it from threatening America's western seaboard.

Given their submarines' insufficient power to outrun U.S. Navy nuclear attack submarines and lack of aerial and surface coverage to protect them out to long distances, they cannot venture far out to sea, although a scenario where a missile-equipped sub travels into the Sea of Japan on a "suicide mission" to fire the KN-11 before it expects to inevitably get destroyed is not implausible given the loyalty of the elite crewmen of the submarine force.

A more likely scenario would be to deploy along the Korean coastline within its local air and surface cover to silently creep into or out of various hiding spots like bays, inlets, and outer isles before reaching its pre-designated position to stay quietly submerged by running on batteries; because of its finite power capacity, the sub would have to surface or snorkel for air to recharge its batteries if it remains hiding for an extended period, making it vulnerable to anti-submarine warfare (ASW) efforts.

The other possible non-Russian operator of the R-27 is not surprisingly Iran. "R-27 copy, BM25/Musudan-1 - Based on leaked, classified U.S. State Department cable, although Iran has never displayed the missiles causing some U.S. intelligence officials to doubt the missiles were transferred to Iran."

North Korea's growing ability to threaten Tokyo implicitly raises the murky issue of whether the use of tactical nuclear weapons, which may be essential to stop a North Korean suicide missile firing sub, is forbidden under the proposed Obama "no first use" nuclear doctrine. "In April 2009, President Barack Obama made clear that he sought 'to put an end to Cold War thinking' and pledged to 'reduce the role of nuclear weapons in our national security strategy and urge others to do the same.'".

On June 6, 2016, Deputy National Security Adviser Ben Rhodes pledged that the president “will continue to review whether there are additional steps that can be taken to reduce the role of nuclear weapons in our own strategies and to reduce the risk of inadvertent use.”

Washington Post columnist Josh Rogin reported earlier this week that among the changes under consideration is the adoption of a clear no-first–use doctrine. Such a shift would build upon earlier adjustments made to U.S. nuclear policy in the 2010 Nuclear Posture Review, which said the United States should pursue the objective of making deterrence against a nuclear attack the “sole purpose” of the nuclear arsenal.

By declaring that the United States will not be the first to use nuclear weapons, Obama could unwind dangerous Cold War-era thinking, reduce the risk that a conventional military conflict turns into a nuclear catastrophe, and enhance U.S. and global security for decades to come.

What if it takes a nuke to stop a nuke?

Despite the fact that the old tactical nukes have mostly been withdrawn, they are effectively about to be replaced. Obama's declaratory no first use policy runs counter to his other legacy, a nuclear modernization program which will replace the old city busters (countervalue) with much precise and controllable weapons whose best use is against military targets (counterforce). As the New York Times put it, As U.S. Modernizes Nuclear Weapons, ‘Smaller’ Leaves Some Uneasy.

while the North Koreans have been thinking big — claiming to have built a hydrogen bomb, a boast that experts dismiss as wildly exaggerated — the Energy Department and the Pentagon have been readying a line of weapons that head in the opposite direction.

The build-it-smaller approach has set off a philosophical clash among those in Washington who think about the unthinkable.

Mr. Obama has long advocated a “nuclear-free world.” His lieutenants argue that modernizing existing weapons can produce a smaller and more reliable arsenal while making their use less likely because of the threat they can pose. The changes, they say, are improvements rather than wholesale redesigns, fulfilling the president’s pledge to make no new nuclear arms.

But critics, including a number of former Obama administration officials, look at the same set of facts and see a very different future. The explosive innards of the revitalized weapons may not be entirely new, they argue, but the smaller yields and better targeting can make the arms more tempting to use — even to use first, rather than in retaliation.

Gen. James E. Cartwright, a retired vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff who was among Mr. Obama’s most influential nuclear strategists, said he backed the upgrades because precise targeting allowed the United States to hold fewer weapons. But “what going smaller does,” he acknowledged, “is to make the weapon more thinkable.”

This means the new American nuclear arsenal will be perfect for what Obama will promise never to do. National Public Radio calls it Obama's Nuclear Paradox: Pushing For Cuts, Agreeing To Upgrades. In the Obama policy is a hidden conflict. On the one hand he is building a new generation of nuclear weapons designed for counterforce but on the other hand there is his "no first use policy." He's buying an offensive toolset and promising never to use it.

NPR describes this schizophrenic outcome as the result of bad luck. If only things had gone according to plan. "Obama's legacy is partly the fault of history and partly the result of his own actions ... The first-term Obama, fresh from his election and eager to pursue a 'reset' with Russia, did not anticipate that Putin would invade Ukraine and chill relations so profoundly." Moreover he found that in order to sell Arms Control he had to give the military a modernization program.

Obama and his administration did, however, know exactly what they were doing when they tried to sell the 2010 New Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty to the Senate, Bronson said.

The administration tried to appeal to pro-nuclear senators by agreeing to invest in the nation's nuclear labs and nuclear weapons infrastructure, which set in motion policies that may long outlast Obama's term.

Anti-nuclear groups hope the president will use the time he has left to do something big.

The result is the present paradox. The Wall Street Journal notes that Obama administration cabinet officials have warned that Obama's "no first use" declaration may set off an arms race. "A proposal under consideration at the White House to reverse decades of U.S. nuclear policy by declaring a 'No First Use' protocol for nuclear weapons has run into opposition from top cabinet officials and U.S. allies."

The opposition, from Secretary of State John Kerry, Secretary of Defense Ash Carter and Secretary of Energy Ernest Moniz, as well as allies in Europe and Asia, leaves President Barack Obama with few ambitious options to enhance his nuclear disarmament agenda before leaving office, unless he wants to override the dissent.

The possibility of a “No First Use” declaration—which would see the U.S. explicitly rule out a first strike with a nuclear weapon in any conflict—met resistance at a National Security Council meeting in July, where the Obama administration reviewed possible nuclear disarmament initiatives it could roll out before the end of the president’s term.

During the discussions, Mr. Kerry cited concerns raised by U.S. allies that rely on the American nuclear triad for their security, according to people familiar with the talks. The U.K., France, Japan and South Korea have expressed reservations about a “No First Use” declaration, people familiar with their positions said. Germany has also raised concerns, one of the people said."

The surprising concern of the allies is due to that other dirty little secret: it was the cheap US nuclear deterrent which allowed these Europe and Japan to under invest in defense and build up their welfare states. During the Cold War it was widely assumed that the Russian tank armies would be stopped by American tactical nukes. the European armies couldn't and were never meant to.

Now all the contradictions between pacifist politics and military reality are being highlighted by the feckless North Koreans. Should Tokyo fear imminent attack what could it do? Imagine a scenario where the Japanese cabinet is told one of North Korea's Sinpo submarines has put to sea with a 1 MT warheaded missile and intelligence indicates it is on a suicide mission to attack Honshu, what do they do to make sure the missile is never fired? Take the chance North Korea won't? Authorize a conventional attack on the sub? Or hit it with an atomic depth charge? This is the problem which North Korea is slowly posing and which the Obama doctrine has constrained itself from answering.

Perhaps in his heart of hearts president Obama believes there is no answer; that we are trapped between our godlike technology and our infernal human impulses. So he just spends the time reassuring everyone, both hawk and dove, that there is nothing to worry about. In the meantime he prays to the God that liberals don't believe in and hopes for the best.

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North Korea's Kim praises submarine launch test as a success

By HYUNG-JIN KIM, Associated Press
5 hrs ago

SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — North Korean leader Kim Jong Un said Thursday that his country had achieved the "success of all successes" in launching a missile from a submarine, saying it effectively gave the country a fully equipped nuclear attack capability and put the U.S. mainland within striking distance.

Kim's comments, carried by Pyongyang's official Korean Central News Agency, came a day after South Korean officials said a ballistic missile fired from a North Korean submarine was tracked flying about 500 kilometers (310 miles), the longest distance achieved by the North for such a weapon.

North Korea already has a variety of land-based missiles that can hit South Korea and Japan, including U.S. military bases in those countries. But its development of reliable submarine-launched missiles would add a weapon that is harder to detect before launch.

The KCNA said Kim watched from an observation post as the test-firing happened, which the agency said was carried out without "any adverse impact" on neighboring countries.

The North's official Rodong Sinmun newspaper published several photos that showed the missile, with the name Pukguksong printed on its side, soaring into the sky, and Kim smiling and embracing with one of the North Korean officials accompanying him from what appeared to be an observation deck.

The KCNA quoted Kim as saying the successful test showed that North Korea had joined the "front ranks" of military powers fully equipped with nuclear attack capabilities. Kim also said it is undeniable that the U.S. mainland and key operational areas in the Pacific were within North Korea's striking distance.

"I do not guess what ridiculous remarks the U.S. and its followers will make about this test-fire, but I can say their rash acts will only precipitate their self-destruction," the KCNA quoted Kim as saying.

The KCNA said the test was aimed at evaluating the stability of the underwater launching system, the flight features of the solid-fuel missile, the reliability of the control and guidance system, and the accuracy of the warhead in hitting targets after it re-enters the atmosphere.

Wednesday's launch came two days after the U.S. and South Korea began their 12-day Ulchi Freedom Guardian exercises, prompting North Korean threats of retaliation for the military drills, which it views as an invasion rehearsal. North Korea usually responds to regular South Korea-U.S. military drills with weapons tests and fiery warlike rhetoric.

The United Nations Security Council agreed at an emergency meeting late Wednesday requested by the United States and Japan to consider issuing a statement on the missile launch.

Malaysia's U.N. Ambassador Ramlan Bin Ibrahim, the current council president, told reporters after the closed meeting that "there was a general sense of condemnation by most members of the council."

He said the United States is drafting the text of a press statement "and we will have a look at it."

State Department spokeswoman Elizabeth Trudeau said in a statement that the U.S. strongly condemned the launch and called on North Korea to "refrain from actions and rhetoric that further raise tensions in the region." She said the missile launch marked the latest in an "accelerating campaign" of missile tests that violate multiple U.N. Security Council resolutions.

South Korea's military condemned the launch but acknowledged it was an improvement over previous tests of similar missiles.

North Korea fired two missiles from submarines earlier this year, but South Korean defense officials believe they exploded in midair after flying less than 30 kilometers (18 miles).

The missile, fired from a submarine off the eastern North Korean coastal town of Sinpo, reached into Japan's air defense identification zone, according to Seoul and Tokyo officials. Its longer distance puts all of South Korea within its range if it is fired near the border.

Missiles of such capability could also potentially strike parts of Japan, including U.S. military bases on the island of Okinawa, considering the operational range of North Korea's Sinpo-class submarines, said analyst Kim Dong-yub at Seoul's Institute for Far Eastern Studies.
 

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South Korean Nuclear Proponents: Conventional Deterrence is Failing

August 25, 2016
Brian Padden

SEOUL — South Korean advocates of nuclear deterrence say the government in Seoul must pursue its own nuclear weapons programs to defend against North Korea’s growing nuclear and ballistic missile capabilities.

Song Dae-sung, a political science professor at Kunkuk University in Seoul and author of the book Let’s Have Nuclear Power makes the case for a nuclear armed South Korea.

“If North Korea becomes a nuclear-armed state and its adversary does not own nuclear power, then the non-nuclear state becomes a slave or hostage of the nuclear state. This is a basic principle of international politics,” said Song.

National Assembly Representative Won Yoo-chul, a leader within of the ruling Saenuri Party, has also been a strong nuclear advocate.

Won has put together a study group in the parliamentary National Defense Committee to assess the risks and benefits of South Korea pursuing its own nuclear program. “The most efficient way to deter nuclear warfare is to have nukes for our self-defense,” Won has said.

Growing threat

Seoul’s nuclear proponents argue that the international sanctions imposed on North Korea for its fourth nuclear test and most recent long-range rocket launch have so far not deterred Pyongyang.

Since the sanctions were imposed, the North Korean military has accelerated its ballistic missile development by conducting numerous launches, and satellite images show signs that the North’s Yongbyon reactor site has resumed producing plutonium used in nuclear bombs.

On Thursday North Korean state media reported that North Korean leader Kim Jong Un supervised the most recent submarine-launched ballistic missile test and declared it "the greatest success" that put the country in the "front rank" of nuclear military powers.

Self-reliance

Nuclear proponents say South Korea cannot leave its fate in the hands of China or the U.S.

Beijing has been reluctant to vigorously enforce sanctions, they say, because it needs a stable counterbalance to the superior conventional forces of the South Korean-U.S. Military alliance.

And Donald Trump, the Republican candidate for president, has cast doubt on the U.S. policy of providing extended nuclear deterrence in the region by questioning America’s commitment to protect South Korea.

“If the U.S. elects a president who makes such an argument, then South Korea needs to own nuclear power all the more,” said Song.

Negative consequences

However, South Korean President Park Geun-hye supports the current deterrence and containment regime that involves a close military alliance with the United States and increasing international pressure on the North Korean government.

Opponents of arming South Korea with nuclear weapons say it would unravel the security architecture that has maintained peace in the region for decades.

“Those guys arguing for the possession of nuclear weapons are first, shortsighted, second, they do not understand the negative consequences of that kind of move, and third, that would lead to a nuclear domino on the Korean Peninsula in Northeast Asia,” said Moon Chung-in, a political science professor with Yonsei University.

While some supporters contend that a nuclear South Korea would exert pressure on North Korea or China, opponents argue it would actually dissipate international support for North Korean sanctions.

“Who I think would absolutely be thrilled with such a development would be North Korea, because if the ROK (Republic of Korea) were to pursue its own nuclear deterrence then it would justify everything they have done,” said regional security analyst Daniel Pinkston with Troy University in Seoul.

NPT

The United Nations might also impose economic and diplomatic sanctions on South Korea for developing nuclear weapons in violation of the Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) it signed as a non-nuclear weapons state.

North Korea’s withdraw from the NPT in 2003 is a major justification for the current sanctions in place against it.

However the South’s nuclear supporters say Seoul could invoke Article 10 of the NPT, which allows for a withdraw from the treaty when extraordinary events jeopardize national interests, by citing the North’s nuclear threat.

A nuclear South Korea could also weaken the close military alliance between Seoul and Washington and the need for large American conventional forces on the Korean Peninsula.

“It will be very difficult for the Americans, who are very sympathetic with South Korea’s national security conditions, (to) argue that South Korea needs both its own nuclear weapons, and men and women of the United States sacrificing their safety in defense of South Korea,” said Bong Young-shik with the Yonsei University Institute for North Korean Studies.

Critics argue that Japan would also likely follow suit and acquire its own nuclear weapons, further increasing regional tensions and the potential for nuclear war in Asia.

Youmi Kim in Seoul contributed to this report.
 

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Hummm....I'd think the better option (if there isn't any other) would be the NATO "2-Key" system with the South Koreans, Japanese and perhaps Australia (Taiwan at this point would be pushing things probably too far, but who knows about tomorrow...)....

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South Korean Nukes: Less Risky to America than Extended Deterrence[1]

The danger of ambiguity and entanglement is greater.

Doug Bandow [2]

Looking to its legacy, the Obama administration may declare no first use of nuclear weapons. Some Asia specialists worried about North Korea argue against making such a pledge. That’s another reason it might be better for Washington to encourage its ally South Korea to turn to nuclear proliferation.

Washington has possessed nuclear weapons for more than seventy years. No one doubts that the United States would use nukes in its own defense. After all, America became the first nation to use the atomic bomb against Japan in World War Two.

However, since then Washington has extended a so-called “nuclear umbrella” over many of its allies that lack nuclear weapons. Exactly who is so protected and under what circumstances? No one really knows, especially with the Obama administration moving to narrow the circumstances for use of nuclear weapons.

Early in the Cold War, the United States threatened “massive retaliation” in Europe to offset Soviet conventional superiority. Once Moscow acquired an equivalent nuclear arsenal that approach lost appeal. Nevertheless, Washington still promised to use nuclear weapons in its NATO allies’ defense, though the precise circumstances under which the United States would act were not clear.

The United States also probably holds a nuclear umbrella over its Mideast allies. With perhaps two hundred of its own nukes, Israel doesn’t need American protection, though no election-minded U.S. politicians would admit as much. The United States could use nuclear weapons on behalf of Saudi Arabia and perhaps other friendly states, though that is far from clear. Certainly Washington is expected to prevent adversaries, such as Iran, from developing nukes. If Tehran moved ahead, some observers believe that Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Turkey would respond with their own programs.

Northeast Asia is the region where nuclear threats seem greatest. Japan and South Korea are thought to be snuggled beneath America’s nuclear umbrella, discouraging them both from acquiring their own weapons. Other possible claimants include Taiwan and Australia, though no one quite knows what Washington would do when. Presumably the guarantee to use nuclear weapons is in place against Russia, the People’s Republic of China and Democratic People’s Republic of Korea.

The “umbrella” obviously is defensive, that is, to protect American allies against the first use of nukes. However, Washington also could—and it appears would, if necessary, whatever that might mean—use nuclear weapons first to stop a conventional attack. While Moscow and Beijing might not be particularly friendly with America these days, they aren’t likely to attack the Republic of Korea or Japan. North Korea invading South Korea is more plausible.

Extended nuclear deterrence always has been risky for the United States. It means being willing to fight a nuclear war on behalf of others, that is, Americans would risk Washington, DC. and Los Angeles to, say, defend Berlin and Tokyo. At least bilateral deterrence among great powers tends to be reasonably stable, though credibility issues remain. Is Washington really willing to risk nuclear war over an issue of limited importance? The Chinese already have queried whether Americans believe saving Taipei is worth losing Los Angeles. It isn’t, or at least it shouldn’t be.

Dealing with North Korea is potentially more dangerous. While Kim Jong-un, like his father and grandfather, wants his virgins in this world rather than the next, his lack of sound judgment and stability are problematic. He might start a war inadvertently. Yet the DPRK eventually may gain the ability to strike the United States by developing long-range missiles as well as nuclear weapons. The North isn’t likely to attack first, but it still could lay waste to a major U.S. city, which would be bad indeed.

Yet advocates of extended deterrence are criticizing proposals for an American pledge of no first use of nuclear weapons. Writing for NK News, analyst Robert E. McCoy argued [3] that the United States should not announce the conditions under which it would use nukes given Kim’s threats to use them: “It is imperative that Kim Jong-un is made to understand that he faces the destructive power of our entire weapons arsenal at all times when it comes to threatening the U.S. or its allies.”

Yet that is precisely the problem. It is one thing for Washington to use nuclear weapons, including preemptively, to protect America. It is quite different to do so for allies. Alliances are a means, not an end, that is, a mechanism to help defend the United States. A North Korean attack on South Korea would be awful, a humanitarian tragedy. But American security would not be directly threatened. Certainly there is no threat warranting the risk of nuclear retaliation on the United States.

Of course, those being defended have configured their security policy and force structure in response. The Brookings Institution’s Jonathan D. Pollack and Richard C. Bush note [4]: “Non-nuclear states living in the shadow of nuclear-armed adversaries have long relied on U.S. security guarantees, specifically the declared commitment to employ nuclear weapons should our allies be subject to aggression with conventional forces.” But future policy should not be held captive to the past.

Pollack and Bush warn against putting allies’ security at risk. However, Washington’s chief responsibility should be America’s security. Backers of the status quo act like there is no alternative to leaving South Korea (and Japan, which faces a real, though less direct, threat from the DPRK) vulnerable to attack. However, Seoul is well able to deter and defeat the North. South Korea possesses around forty times the GDP and twice the population of North Korea, as well as a vast technological lead and an extensive international support network. Japan, which has long possessed the world’s second largest economy, also could do far more.

South Korea is capable of developing nuclear weapons. Indeed, a half century ago the current president’s father, President Park Chung-hee, dropped South Korea’s program under intense U.S. pressure [5]. But interest in a South Korean bomb never entirely died, with polls showing public support for such an option today.

Opposition to nuclear weapons is stronger in Japan, but a South Korean weapon would put enormous pressure on Tokyo to conform. The United States should not press either nation to choose the nuclear option. However, Washington should indicate that it no longer plans to put its cities on the line for anything other than truly vital interests involving America, which are not at stake here.

Obviously, there are plenty of good reasons to oppose proliferation, even among friends. The more nuclear powers, the greater the potential for instability, proliferation and use. However, the alternative in this case is not stability, nonproliferation and nonuse. Rather, it is entangling Washington in the middle of other nations’ potential conflicts involving all of Asia’s threatening powers, China, Russia and North Korea. The result is to make America less secure.

Pollack and Bush write about “Northeast Asia’s inescapable realities.” However, precisely such realities suggest withdrawing the United States from that region’s nuclear imbroglio. Then America’s allies could engage in containment and deterrence, just as America did for them for so many years.

Doug Bandow is a Senior Fellow at the Cato Institute. A former Special Assistant to President Ronald Reagan, he is the author and editor of several books, including The Korean Conundrum: America’s Troubled Relations with North and South Korea (Palgrave/Macmillan, co-author).

Image [6]: South Korean guard at the DMZ. Flickr/James Cridland

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Upgraded Security at North Korea’s Sohae Satellite Launching Station

By 38 North
25 August 2016

A 38 North exclusive with analysis by Joseph S. Bermudez Jr.

Summary

Recent commercial satellite imagery indicates that North Korea has upgraded security measures for the Sohae Satellite Launching Station and surrounding area. While the upgrades are likely tied to the master construction plan, they may also indicate that the launch facility could soon be occupied by NADA and KPA scientists, engineers, technicians and support personnel. Upgraded security may also reflect a growing North Korean concern of intelligence collection by foreign governments using defectors from the area or outside agents to infiltrate and collect information.

Upgraded Security Perimeters

As part of the initial phases of construction at the Sohae Satellite Launching Station in 2000, a guard position and entrance were established at the point where the main access road entered the valley in which the launch facility was being built, thereby separating it from the nearby villages (the largest of which was Tongchang-ri). By December 2004, a second guard position and entrance were built about 2.6 kilometers to the northeast of the first. Both these guard and entrance positions had short fences on either side of the road.

Figure 1. The inner and outer security perimeters of the Sohae Satellite Launching Station.

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Initially, these two positions served as anchors for inner and outer security perimeters that consisted of simple footpaths on top of the surrounding hills for security troops to patrol along. Subsequently, these patrol paths were expanded and connected so that by 2009, they formed both a basic outer security perimeter encompassing a dozen villages, the largest of which was Tongchang-ri, and an inner security perimeter that encompassed the Sohae launch facility proper.

Beginning around 2011, improvements to the outer perimeter began and proceeded slowly, converting the basic perimeter into a more capable security perimeter by widening existing patrol paths, erecting fences and adjusting the perimeter alignment. In May 2015, construction began on a new guard position and entrance on the outer perimeter northeast of Tongchang-ri. By December, this was complete and the old position razed. Along the inner security perimeter, the existing patrol paths were widened and fences were erected.

Today, the outer security perimeter is 27 kilometers long, encompassing 28 square kilometers and 12 villages. The inner security perimeter is 19 kilometers long, encompassing 15 square kilometers and the Sohae launch facility proper. Where these perimeters touched the coast, they were connected to preexisting coastal defense patrol roads.

Figure 2. Upgrades to outer security perimeter.


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Figure 3. Upgrades to inner security perimeter.


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Housing Projects within Outer Perimeter

In 2014, construction of two housing projects within the outer perimeter took place. The first was 19-unit development, 800 meters north of the inner entrance. The second was a 16-unit housing development for workers at the livestock farm 1.5 kilometers to the northeast. There is no hard information on who lives within this outer perimeter, however, some analysts believe that the population consists mainly of the original farming and fishing communities, supplemented by construction workers, KPA and other security troops.

Figure 4. Housing area within the outer perimeter built in 2014.


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Figure 5. Housing area for livestock facility within the outer perimeter built in 2014.


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Why Upgrade Security?

While the upgraded security measures are likely tied to the master construction plan for the Sohae Satellite Launching Station, they may also indicate that the launch facility could soon be occupied by NADA and KPA scientists, engineers, technicians and support personnel. Upgraded security measures may also reflect a growing North Korean concern of intelligence collection by foreign governments using defectors from the area or outside agents to infiltrate and collect information.

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Even without the RoK-US agreement, the NPT allows member states to make weapons grade U-235 or Pu-239 as long as it is slated for use for naval propulsion reactors. Interesting loop hole huh?......

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Controversies over nuclear-powered submarines resurface

Posted August. 26, 2016 07:15, Updated August. 26, 2016 07:22

Nuclear-powered submarines are holding the limelight as countermeasure against the threat from North Korea’s Submarine Launched Ballistic Missiles (SLBM) for their performance in covertness and striking power that overshadows conventional (diesel-powered) submarines. Conventional models are more likely to be detected by enemy in the process of emerging above the surface of the waters to replenish oxygen for their storage batteries. For proper operation, conventional submarines need to charge their batteries two or three times a day, each for one to two hours, which makes it highly likely for them to be seen and struck by anti-submarine forces such as the maritime operation helicopter. While there are more enhanced diesel-powered submarines, which generate oxygen with fuel cells, even with those, under-water operation can only last a maximum two hours.

By contrast, nuclear-powered submarines can stay under water practically for an unlimited span of time and move twice faster than their conventional counterparts. In other words, South Korea can use nuclear-powered submarines to monitor and track down North Korean submarines armed with ballistic missiles long enough, and in case of emergencies, they can evacuate quickly after striking their strategic target. This explains why some of the most advanced countries are running nuclear-powered submarines as a strategic weapon.

In 2003, the South Korean military had been pushing for a behind-the-scenes project to build three units of 4,000-ton nuclear submarines by 2020 under the Roh Moo-hyun administration, but the project was suspended after the project details were leaked out. “If the project had not been suspended, two nuclear submarines would have been combat-ready by now, and they would have served us greatly in dealing with the threats from North Korea’s nuclear weapons,” an official from the South Korean Navy said.

South Korea has the necessary technologies to develop small-sized nuclear reactors for 3,000 to 4,000-ton submarines, and it can also conduct uranium enrichment programs with the cap of 20 percent of enrichment levels pursuant to the revision to the Korea-U.S. nuclear cooperation agreement. Some experts project that South Korea will be able to build a nuclear submarine in the similar class to that of the French submarines such as Rubis (2,500 ton) or Barracuda (4,000 ton), in several years. Hurdles remain, however, such as the expected opposition from China and Russia and the tricky job of persuading the U.S. “During the early 2000s, the South Korean military tried to build nuclear submarines to secure strategic weapons against the North and neighboring countries," said a military official. "Of course, it won’t be easy to persuade the U.S. or cover the costs, but as nuclear threats from the North are extremely worsening, more will endorse the project to counter North Korea.”
 

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August 26, 2016, 03:55 pm

North Korea says it can nuke US mainland

By Nikita Vladimirov
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North Korean leader Kim Jong Un on Friday claimed the U.S. mainland is now within range of his country's nuclear weapons, according to a report from Public Radio International (PRI).

The statement comes after North Korea successfully tested its first submarine-launched missile.

But a former U.S. nuclear negotiator with North Korea, Joel Wit, told PRI the U.S. is not in danger.

"We’re not within striking range of their nuclear weapons," he said.
Wit said there is ground for alarm over North Korea's nuclear development, however.

"This is just one more step in terms of steady progress that North Korea is making in building nuclear weapons and building missiles to deliver them.”

He said the larger worry should be North Korea's current Intercontinental Ballistic Missile (ICBM) project.

“I’m concerned, and I think it should be ongoing concern for everyone,” he said. “If they get that thing [ICBM] working then they will be able to reach the United States, and that, of course, is a serious concern for all of us."

As of today, North Korea does not possess the ability to miniaturize their nuclear weapons into a small warhead or launch their missiles beyond a range of 600 miles the report added.
 

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Ok let's look at Mr. Wit's comment in relation to what the North Koreans already have done....

- They've repeatedly tested some manner of nuclear device (arguments regarding yields and miniaturization being as they are more smoke and mirrors to the fact that they've demonstrated "some mastery" of 1940s physics and munitions engineering and are estimated to have at least the makings for 20 of them) and shown off a mock up(?) of an implosion unit that would fit in their existing SCUD, Nodong, and now successfully flown Musudan RVs.

- Besides their showing off "ICBMs" at a facility a few months ago along with their parade appearances in Pyongyang, with the repeated successes of their Unha-3 "SLV" in putting a blivet into orbit, the North Koreans have an ICBM emergency capability in the Unha-3.

- And now they've successfully launched an SLBM from a submerged submarine with an estimated range of 1200 miles.

So is Pyongyang a 10 foot tall monster? No, but they are more than capable of seriously monkey wrenching South Korea, Japan, and if they really go off the reservation the PRC and the Russian Far East without too much effort. As to CONUS, it really all depends on how fast they could erect and fuel Unha launchers away from their usual "space launch" facility.

Even if the North Koreans can only get "low yields" out of their devices, recall what 15 and 20 Kt weapons did to Hiroshima and Nagasaki. You "salt" those with cobalt or even sodium and the amount of havoc such low yield weapons create goes up exponentially.
 

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North Korea’s SLBM Program Progresses, But Still Long Road Ahead

By John Schilling
26 August 2016

The success of North Korea’s latest submarine-launched ballistic missile (SLBM) test suggests the program may be progressing faster than originally expected. However, this does not mean it will be ready next week, next month, or even next year. Rather, the pace and method of the North’s SLBM testing would suggest possible deployment in an initial operational capability by the second half of 2018 at the earliest. Given Russia’s history of SLBM development—a model Pyongyang seems to be following—even after two years and 12 tests of varying degrees of “success” after its first successful launch from a submarine, there were still glitches to be found and fixed. The North Koreans may skip some of these tests, but rushing development almost certainly sacrifices reliability, and fielding inadequately tested or unreliable missiles could result in sunken submarines—a high price to pay when the North has only a single ballistic missile submarine of limited capability.

Furthermore, while North Korea’s single GORAE-class submarine could theoretically be used to field an SLBM, Pyongyang could not count on a single prototype submarine with one to two missiles to carry out wartime missions. Such a deployment would be more of a bluff than a game-changing threat. Moreover, the submarine has only been put to sea for short periods in coastal waters to verify basic seaworthiness and conduct a few launches. If it is meant to be an operational boat, it will need realistic testing in operational environments, such as exercises with its surface fleet. Furthermore, the North will almost certainly want to refine this design before trying to deploy an operational system.

While 38 North has reported on the North’s building up of infrastructure to construct new submarines—upgrading, modernizing and erecting new construction halls at the Sinpo South Shipyard—so far no information is known about whether actual submarine construction has begun. A new submarine could probably be built within a two to three year time frame, but the likelihood of building new models without further testing and refinement of the experimental GORAE-class seems low.

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2 Responses to “North Korea’s SLBM Program Progresses, But Still Long Road Ahead”

1. Steven Hayden says:

August 26, 2016 at 9:42 pm

The Chinese JL 2 SLBM has 8000 km plus range. Why should the future DPRK SLBM not match or exceed it.The ISP of Pukkuksong may exceed the JL2 .Clearly the prior 30km SLBM mas not a prior failure. An article on application of cold start pop up systems in marine systems outside of subs would be interesting . Sanctions has inspired the technical departments to new excellence in DPRK. The purges of corrupt DPRK officials removed obstacles to progress. Expect that the rapid rate of scientific technical progress in DPRK will continue.The DPRK solid motor SLBM seems at least as reliable as solid motor Russian Bulava SLBM even after ten years of Russian testing of Bulava. The Pukkuksong is a amazing achievement for country of 22 million under some of the most severe economic sanctions in history.Somewhat similar to many technical advances of Germany under war time economic conditions What the DPRK needs is time to realize their destiny.

2. nigel portent says:

August 26, 2016 at 8:38 pm

This article is interesting, well-intentioned and seemingly as precise as any open source group may be in establishing a remote informational perspective on the NK SLBM development program, and its clearly obvious relationship to small nuclear warhead payloads.

However, it is a significant oversight to concentrate discussion of diesel submarines as a single-source delivery platform for any future NK SLBMs.

From a unsophisticated psychological analysis, the traditional behavior of a fanatical individual can easily be associated with the behaviors of the NK leadership.

This type of fanatical thought process is able to create clever and extremely devious approaches to a solution to a problem, while manipulating others with distractions by constant and repetitious events – hiding real methods and activities and applications.

Insanity breeds disturbing cleverness which may result in complete surprise.

That said, it is logical to assume that the NK leadership has other designs for delivery of nuclear weapons, to include fishing vessels towing submerged SLBM barges, tankers and cargo vessels with VLS packages, and perhaps even maritime buoys, just to name a few options. The constraints of a sane Western world can not be applied to the thought process of a NK leadership driven to develop a program for use as their ultimate threat tool against the West.

We have talked about these things too much, and allowed developments to proceed to far. Talk is no longer relevant, and action must be taken to eradicate this threat before it is fully functional and deployed.
 

Heliobas Disciple

TB Fanatic
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...ea-threatens-to-fire-at-us-lighting-equipment
(fair use applies)


North Korea threatens to fire at US lighting equipment
By Nikita Vladimirov
August 27, 2016, 11:25 am


North Korea is threatening to shoot the bright lights aimed at their guard posts in the Demilitarized Zone, accusing the U.S. and South Korea of “deliberate provocations.”

The North Korean People's Army said the lights threatened the safety of their soldiers and disrupted their patrols, according to the Associated Press.

"Floodlight directed at the KPA side at random is taken as an intolerable means of provocation and it will be the target of merciless pinpoint shots," a statement from North Korea’s chief security officers said.

"The true aim sought by the provocateurs through their recent act is to seriously get on the nerves of the KPA soldiers, lead them to take due countermeasures and label them as provocation."

On Friday, North Korean leader Kim Jong Un announced that U.S. mainland is now within range of his country's nuclear weapons after North Korea successfully tested its first submarine-launched missile.

On Tuesday, U.N. Command in South Korea accused the North Koreans of planting landmines near the Panmunjom, a zone where North and South Korean forces stand face-to-face since the armistice of 1953.
 

Troke

On TB every waking moment
I thought we had 'killer' subs. Seems something could be arranged so that 'accidents' happen to any NK sub that ventures outside the harbor. They can't have very many and they must be based in only a few places. Seems something could be done.
 

Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
I thought we had 'killer' subs. Seems something could be arranged so that 'accidents' happen to any NK sub that ventures outside the harbor. They can't have very many and they must be based in only a few places. Seems something could be done.

The one they've been conducting the tests with is a "trials boat" meant primarily only for that. It's suspected that they're going to be building operational boats at least the size of the old Soviet Golf SSBs that the DPRK bought 10 as "scrap" back in 1993. The Golf is about twice the displacement (around or over 3000 tons depending on the model) and had an endurance of at least 70 days carrying at least 3 SLBMs. One model of this submarine, the Project 601 carried 6 SLBMs with a displacement of 4000 tons and the Project 605 carried 4 SLBMs.

If these new solid fueled SLBMs in fact have a range of 1200 miles they can stay close in to the DPRK coast with ASW coverage and make such an "accident" a rather tricky affair. The idea of a land based version running around the country side on 8X8 TELs don't sit well with me either.
 

Troke

On TB every waking moment
With modern tech, we should be able to stand off 60 miles and still hit it. If we can't it is high time we got to it.
 

Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
With modern tech, we should be able to stand off 60 miles and still hit it. If we can't it is high time we got to it.

Capability is different than national command authority clearance to do so.

That being said, the USN SSNs haven't have SUBROC since 1990 and the follow on, UUM-125 Sea Lance, in both nuclear and conventional configurations was canceled as part of the "peace dividend".
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
I swear, if I see "Peace Dividend" written EVER AGAIN without quotes, I'm gonna grab the offending writer by the hand and tow them to Rome, NY nd let them see the devastation wrought by the BRAC wing of the AF "Peace Dividend"......

When they decided to BRAC Griffiss they were flying Lead Sleds out of there......and RADC (Rome Air Development Command) was doing CUTTING EDGE FLIGHT stuff. nd SOMEWHERE on the Griff there was a functional satellite to Denver's Magic Mountain because THAT was where the scramble command was issued on 9-11-01. Not to say we had ANY assets on hot pads, since sometime in 2000.
 
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