WAR RUSSIA INVADES UKRAINE - Consolidated Thread

Abert

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More on the Bryansk Strike

Ukraine Strikes Bryansk With Storm Shadow Missiles​

Trump Warns Iran Over Hormuz​

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONXfKGwEoFM

Run Time 16 min
Yesterday, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have struck a plant in Bryansk, Russia using Storm Shadow missiles. Ukraine’s General Staff has put out a statement saying that Russia was producing semiconductors and integrated microchips at this factory, which were then used in modern weapons. Donald Trump has sent a warning to Iran regarding the mining of the Strait of Hormuz. Donald Trump has stated that if Iran places mines in the Strait of Hormuz, there will be military consequences never seen before. The EU has made it clear that it won’t change it’s position regarding sanctions on Russia and that sanctions will remain in place as far as the EU is concerned. This comes as the US has lifted certain sanctions off of Russia and is discussing to lift further sanctions. Politico has reported that the EU has found a way to get around Viktor Orban’s veto and deliver Ukraine 30 billion euros through bilateral loans, rather than an EU loan. Antonio Costa has stated that Russia, US and China are tearing apart the rules based order. It remains unclear what Europe’s position is and will be after this geopolitical realignment.

0:00 Storm Shadow Strike
1:35 Trump warns Iran
3:50 Big Geopolitical Realignment
5:49 EU maintain it's position
9:04 The EU has found a way
13:03 Zelensky
 

Cedar Lake

Connecticut Yankee
Life sentences were handed down today by the court to the perpetrators of the terrorist attack at the "Crocus City Hall" concert hall in the Moscow region.

Dalerjon Mirzoev, Shamsiddin Faridun, and Muhammadsobir Fayzov fully admitted their guilt, while Saidakrami Muradali Rachabalizo partially admitted it.

According to the court's decision, all four will spend the first 17 years of their life sentences in prison, and the rest of the time in a special regime.

11 accomplices of the terrorists also received life sentences.

The Second Western District Military Court found them guilty of assisting the perpetrators of the terrorist attack — they provided money, weapons, and participated in organizing the attack.

Several other defendants received long sentences. Isroil Islov and his sons Dilovar and Aminchon, who sold a car to the terrorists, received 19 years and 11 months each. Alisher Kasimov, who handed over a white Renault Logan to them, was sentenced to 22 years and 6 months in a colony.

The Investigative Committee stated that the terrorist attack at "Crocus" was planned and carried out in the interests of the current leadership of Ukraine.

Runtime 49 sec
 

Abert

Veteran Member
Abert. Thanks for your news gathering. Much appreciated.
Thanks - as likely you all know the Iran war is about all that is being covered.
Even articles on Ukraine are influenced by the Iran war - all interconnected as in this.

Ukraine-Russia war latest: Zelensky slams Trump decision to drop Putin oil sanctions as bad for peace​

Volodymyr Zelensky has hit out at Donald Trump’s decision to drop Russian oil sanctions after the US president’s war on Iran sent prices soaring.

The Ukrainian leader said the move could net Moscow as much as $10 billion to support Vladimir Putin’s war on his country.

Trump issued a 30-day waiver for countries to buy sanctioned Russian oil and petroleum products currently stranded at sea in a bid to stabilise global energy markets.

Earlier this week, Washington announced it would be releasing 172 million barrels of oil from the strategic petroleum reserve in an effort to curb skyrocketing oil prices.

Zelensky made the remarks due a press conference with French president Emmanuel Macron, during a visit to Paris on Friday.

The Ukrainian president was set to discuss European support for Kyiv, what pressure allies can continue to apply on Russia including the shadow fleet as well as future security guarantees and peace negotiations.
 

Abert

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Ukraine awaits U.S. sign-off on drone production deal, Zelenskyy says​

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'We don't need Ukraine's help' — Trump rebuffs Zelensky's drone defense offer​

The U.S. does not need Ukraine's assistance with strengthening anti-drone defenses amid the ongoing fighting in the Middle East, U.S. President Donald Trump said in an interview with Fox News aired on March 13.

"No, we don't need (Ukraine's) help in drone defense," Trump said in the interview. "We know more about drones than anybody. We have the best drones in the world, actually."

The comments come as an unexpected rebuff of Kyiv's offer to share its combat‑tested experience and technology for countering Iranian‑made strike drones with the U.S. and Middle Eastern countries.

The claim also appears to conflict with President Volodymyr Zelensky's earlier statement that Kyiv agreed to Washington's request for assistance in protecting U.S. military bases in Jordan.

More than 10 countries have already requested Kyiv's aid, Zelensky said on March 13, after previously confirming that Ukrainian experts were also sent to Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and the United Arab Emirates.

Already since last year, Ukraine has been offering to share its experience in drone technology — a vital weaponry on Ukrainian battlefields — with the U.S. in exchange for anti-missile defenses.

The Trump administration reportedly dismissed the initial offer last August during Zelensky's visit to the White House.
 

wait-n-see

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Ukraine faces weapons shortages as Russia expands operations w/ Stanislav Krapivnik​

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3N8_JPPLexs

Run time - 40:46
Mar 14, 2026

00:00 Intro & Guest Introductions
00:45 Overview: Ukraine and the Middle East
01:52 Latest Developments on Ukraine's Front Lines
06:41 Focus on Konstantinovka: The Cauldron Situation
14:27 Spring Weather and Battlefield Conditions
18:09 Russian Encirclement Tactics & New Fronts
23:35 Ukraine's Equipment and Manpower Crisis
25:11 Western Arms Shortages & Impact on Ukraine
29:44 Ukrainian Strategy, Artillery, and Shell Production
33:03 Manpower Issues and Press Gangs in Ukraine
36:22 Will This Be the Last Year of the War?
39:24 Postwar Scenarios for Ukraine and Europe
40:03 Final Thoughts & Where to Find Stanislav
 

Abert

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Looks like Ukraine just can't get a break

Iran Threatens Ukraine with Strikes

The head of the Iranian Parliament's National Security Committee, Ebrahim Azizi, has called for considering all of Ukraine's territory a legitimate target:

"By providing support to the Israeli regime with drones, the collapsing Ukraine has effectively become involved in the war. According to Article 51 of the UN Charter, this has turned its entire territory into a legitimate target for Iran."
 

Abert

Veteran Member
Looks like Ukraine is now getting more news - maybe we should just agree these are actually just two fronts in one war?

EU UK Furious As Russia Exports Soar Sanctions Unravel;​

Aid To Kiev Stops; US NO To Kiev Drone Offer​

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLfY2QGWklM

Run Time 1hr 20 min
  • 00:00 Intro & Channel Reminders
  • 00:21 US Military Actions in Iran
  • 01:54 Speculation over US Marine Deployment
  • 03:35 Strait of Hormuz Crisis & Trapped Ships
  • 04:34 US Navy Strategy and International Response
  • 06:02 Possible US Ground Operations
  • 07:06 Military Realities and Powell Doctrine
  • 09:08 Challenges of US Force Size
  • 10:53 US Marine Reorganization & Implications
  • 13:03 82nd Airborne and Overall US Force Levels
  • 15:01 Logistics, Limitations & Delayed Deployment
  • 16:14 Impact on Energy, Economy, and Speculation
  • 18:48 Update on Bombings and Airfield Strikes
  • 19:51 Debate Over Air Tanker Losses
  • 20:55 Iran's Leadership Stands Firm
  • 21:11 US Bounties & International Law Concerns
  • 22:54 Washington Post and Legal Justifications
  • 24:13 Israel-Hezbollah Conflict Overview
  • 26:05 Hezbollah's Strength and Claims Reevaluated
  • 27:34 Effectiveness of US Air Defense Systems
  • 29:24 Ukraine’s Air Defense Claims vs Reality
  • 32:56 Recent Russian Strikes on Ukraine
  • 36:32 Ukraine’s Missiles & Air Defense Shortages
  • 39:33 Ukraine’s Anti-Drone Systems & Their Limits
  • 42:41 Parallels in Middle Eastern Air Defense Failures
  • 45:43 US & Ukrainian Drone Technology Debates
  • 47:01 Air Defense Failures Vindicate Critics
  • 48:03 US-Europe Tensions Over Russia Sanctions
  • 50:49 Russia’s Fiscal Position & Economic Policy
  • 52:30 Sanctions Narratives and Real Economic Drivers
  • 54:22 Short-Term Benefits & Russian Military Supply
  • 55:42 Putin’s Diplomatic Overtures on Iran
  • 57:02 Limits of Russian Desire for Prolonged War
  • 58:09 Methodical vs Risk-Taking Government Approaches
  • 01:00:13 Russian vs US Strategy in Ukraine & Iran
  • 01:03:04 Military Developments in Ukraine
  • 01:05:08 Russian Progress in Zaporizhzhia & Northeast Ukraine
  • 01:10:33 Russian Advances Near Sumi and Kharkiv
  • 01:13:14 Sumi’s Strategic Importance for Russia
  • 01:15:47 Russian Hold on Sumi and Potential Impact
  • 01:17:13 Operational Moves Towards Kharkiv and Zaporizhzhia
  • 01:18:11 Uncertainties & American Strategy in Iran
  • 01:18:26 Outlook for Iran Conflict & Ukraine’s Turning Point
 

wait-n-see

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Air Defense Missile Shortage: How Support for Ukraine Is Changing - Mercouris and Krapivnik​

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHXUq48yvlE

Run time - 23:12
Mar 15, 2026

00:00 Zelensky threats and European reaction
02:00 Could Russia launch major assault
03:39 Weak Ukrainian frontline explained
05:20 Ukraine losing air defense missiles
07:04 US running out of Patriot interceptors
09:20 Missile shortages across Middle East bases
11:08 Ukraine vulnerable in the air
13:20 Europe’s ammunition production crisis
15:00 Desertions and hidden battlefield losses
17:29 Forced mobilization and corruption schemes
18:47 Could this be the last year
20:01 Risk of long guerrilla war
21:00 Possible instability spreading to Europe
 

jward

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defence-blog.com
Russia launches nearly 500 drones and missiles at Ukraine


Key Points

Russia launched 498 missiles and drones in a combined overnight strike on Ukraine on March 14, with Ukrainian air defenses destroying or suppressing 460 aerial targets including 58 missiles and 402 drones.
The attack targeted energy infrastructure across multiple regions including Kyiv, leaving power outages and causing civilian casualties and damage to residential buildings and civilian facilities.

Russia launched a large-scale combined missile and drone strike against Ukraine overnight on March 14, targeting critical infrastructure across several regions of the country.

Ukrainian authorities said the attack began at 18:00 on March 13 and involved nearly 500 aerial weapons, including ballistic missiles, cruise missiles, and hundreds of attack drones.

According to the Ukrainian Air Force, radar units detected a total of 498 aerial attack weapons during the overnight operation.


The barrage included Zircon hypersonic missiles launched from occupied Crimea, Iskander-M and S-400 ballistic missiles launched from Russia’s Bryansk region, Kalibr cruise missiles fired from the Black Sea and Caspian Sea, Kh-101 cruise missiles launched from Russia’s Vologda region, and Kh-59 and Kh-69 guided air-launched missiles launched from Russia’s Kursk region and occupied areas of Donetsk region. The largest portion of the attack consisted of 430 unmanned aerial vehicles, including Shahed drones as well as Gerbera, Italmas, and other types of strike drones launched from multiple directions in Russia and occupied Crimea. Ukrainian officials said roughly 250 of the drones involved in the attack were Shahed systems.

Ukrainian military officials said the primary direction of the strike was the Kyiv region, although multiple regions across the country were targeted. Ukrainian air defenses responded using a layered system that included fighter aviation, surface-to-air missile units, electronic warfare units, drone defense units, and mobile fire groups deployed by Ukraine’s defense forces.

According to preliminary data released by the Ukrainian Air Force as of 09:00, air defense units destroyed or suppressed 460 aerial targets, including both missiles and drones. Ukrainian forces reported intercepting most of the cruise missiles launched during the strike as well as a large portion of the incoming drones. Air defenses destroyed one Zircon missile, seven Iskander-M or S-400 ballistic missiles, all 25 Kalibr cruise missiles that were detected, all 24 Kh-101 cruise missiles, and one guided Kh-59 or Kh-69 missile. Ukrainian units also destroyed or suppressed 402 attack drones of various types during the operation.

Despite the high interception rate, some weapons reached their targets. Ukrainian authorities reported that six missiles and 28 attack drones struck targets at 11 locations. In addition, debris from intercepted drones fell at seven separate locations across the country. Ukrainian officials said the status of four additional missiles remains under clarification as investigators continue to assess the full results of the strike.

The attack caused damage to Ukraine’s energy infrastructure and left consumers without electricity in several regions. According to Ukraine’s Ministry of Energy, Russian strikes disrupted power supply in Kyiv and the surrounding Kyiv region, as well as in Kharkiv, Dnipropetrovsk, Zaporizhzhia, Cherkasy, and Kirovohrad regions.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said the attack struck several parts of the country, including Kyiv region, Sumy region, Kharkiv region, Dnipro region, and Mykolaiv region. Emergency services and local authorities continue to work at the affected sites to assess damage and restore critical services.

Zelenskyy said: “The main target for the Russians was the energy infrastructure of the Kyiv region, but unfortunately there were also hits and damage to ordinary houses, schools, and civilian enterprises. At this time it is known that four people have been killed. Many are injured, and people are still seeking medical assistance.”

Russia has repeatedly used large combined barrages of drones and missiles during the war to target Ukraine’s infrastructure and air defense network. Such attacks typically combine large numbers of relatively inexpensive drones with cruise and ballistic missiles launched from different directions. The approach is intended to create multiple simultaneous threats and complicate interception efforts by Ukrainian defenses.
 

jward

passin' thru
defence-blog.com
Ukrainian firm develops Chipa net gun to stop FPV drones


Key Points

Ukraine’s BlueBird Tech has developed the Chipa net gun, a close-range device designed to intercept FPV attack drones by firing a 3×3 meter net that entangles propellers at distances of up to 25 meters.
The system is intended as a last-line defensive tool that neutralizes incoming drones without radio interference or revealing the operator’s position.

Ukraine’s BlueBird Tech has developed a new close-range counter-drone device known as the Chipa net gun, designed to intercept first-person-view (FPV) attack drones at short distances on the battlefield.

The system fires a specially designed net that opens in mid-air and entangles the drone’s propellers, stopping it before impact. The Ukrainian company said the device is intended for use when an FPV drone is already approaching a target and other defenses are no longer available.

Ukrainian engineers say that when drones close in on soldiers, vehicles, or defensive positions, conventional electronic warfare systems or firearms may not always provide an immediate solution. The Chipa system is designed to serve as a final defensive option during those moments.


According to BlueBird Tech, the Chipa net gun launches a net measuring roughly three by three meters that spreads open in the air before reaching its target. Once deployed, the net is intended to wrap around the propellers of an approaching FPV drone, causing the aircraft to lose lift and fall before it can strike.

The company states that the effective interception range of the system is up to 25 meters. Within that distance, operators can aim the device and fire the net to capture or disable a drone that is already closing in on a target.

Preparation for use is designed to be rapid. BlueBird Tech says the operator only needs to pull the safety pin, aim the launcher, and press the trigger. The entire process takes only a few seconds, allowing soldiers to react quickly in situations where an incoming FPV drone is already visible and approaching.

Unlike firearms or electronic warfare equipment, the Chipa system does not rely on radio signals or jamming technologies. BlueBird Tech says the net launcher operates mechanically and does not create radio interference during use. Because of that, the device does not reveal the operator’s position through electronic emissions.

The company also notes that the system reduces the risk of dangerous debris compared with other interception methods. Shooting down a drone with firearms can cause fragments to scatter, while electronic warfare systems may cause a drone to fall unpredictably. By capturing the drone with a net, the device aims to neutralize the aircraft while limiting collateral risks.
Chipa net gun (BlueBird Tech pic)

BlueBird Tech described the Chipa launcher as a “last line of defence” tool for situations in which a drone has already bypassed other protective measures. According to the company, the device is intended to complement existing counter-drone systems rather than replace them.

As noted by the company, the need for close-range drone interception tools has grown as FPV drones have become more common on the battlefield.

“In a situation where FPV drones have become one of the key means of attack, solutions for close-range interception are becoming critical,” the engineers at BlueBird Tech said. “BlueBird Tech is constantly working to create effective means of protecting the lives of Ukrainian military personnel.”
Chipa net gun (BlueBird Tech pic)

FPV drones have emerged as one of the most widely used attack systems in the war between Ukraine and Russia. Originally developed for racing and hobbyist use, these small quadcopters have been adapted to carry explosive charges and guided by operators using live video feeds.

Their low cost, maneuverability, and ability to fly close to the ground make them difficult targets for traditional air defense systems. Many FPV drones are also capable of flying through narrow spaces or approaching targets from unexpected directions.

 

West

Senior
defence-blog.com
Ukrainian firm develops Chipa net gun to stop FPV drones


Key Points

Ukraine’s BlueBird Tech has developed the Chipa net gun, a close-range device designed to intercept FPV attack drones by firing a 3×3 meter net that entangles propellers at distances of up to 25 meters.
The system is intended as a last-line defensive tool that neutralizes incoming drones without radio interference or revealing the operator’s position.

Ukraine’s BlueBird Tech has developed a new close-range counter-drone device known as the Chipa net gun, designed to intercept first-person-view (FPV) attack drones at short distances on the battlefield.

The system fires a specially designed net that opens in mid-air and entangles the drone’s propellers, stopping it before impact. The Ukrainian company said the device is intended for use when an FPV drone is already approaching a target and other defenses are no longer available.

Ukrainian engineers say that when drones close in on soldiers, vehicles, or defensive positions, conventional electronic warfare systems or firearms may not always provide an immediate solution. The Chipa system is designed to serve as a final defensive option during those moments.


According to BlueBird Tech, the Chipa net gun launches a net measuring roughly three by three meters that spreads open in the air before reaching its target. Once deployed, the net is intended to wrap around the propellers of an approaching FPV drone, causing the aircraft to lose lift and fall before it can strike.

The company states that the effective interception range of the system is up to 25 meters. Within that distance, operators can aim the device and fire the net to capture or disable a drone that is already closing in on a target.

Preparation for use is designed to be rapid. BlueBird Tech says the operator only needs to pull the safety pin, aim the launcher, and press the trigger. The entire process takes only a few seconds, allowing soldiers to react quickly in situations where an incoming FPV drone is already visible and approaching.

Unlike firearms or electronic warfare equipment, the Chipa system does not rely on radio signals or jamming technologies. BlueBird Tech says the net launcher operates mechanically and does not create radio interference during use. Because of that, the device does not reveal the operator’s position through electronic emissions.

The company also notes that the system reduces the risk of dangerous debris compared with other interception methods. Shooting down a drone with firearms can cause fragments to scatter, while electronic warfare systems may cause a drone to fall unpredictably. By capturing the drone with a net, the device aims to neutralize the aircraft while limiting collateral risks.
Chipa net gun (BlueBird Tech pic)

BlueBird Tech described the Chipa launcher as a “last line of defence” tool for situations in which a drone has already bypassed other protective measures. According to the company, the device is intended to complement existing counter-drone systems rather than replace them.

As noted by the company, the need for close-range drone interception tools has grown as FPV drones have become more common on the battlefield.

“In a situation where FPV drones have become one of the key means of attack, solutions for close-range interception are becoming critical,” the engineers at BlueBird Tech said. “BlueBird Tech is constantly working to create effective means of protecting the lives of Ukrainian military personnel.”
Chipa net gun (BlueBird Tech pic)

FPV drones have emerged as one of the most widely used attack systems in the war between Ukraine and Russia. Originally developed for racing and hobbyist use, these small quadcopters have been adapted to carry explosive charges and guided by operators using live video feeds.

Their low cost, maneuverability, and ability to fly close to the ground make them difficult targets for traditional air defense systems. Many FPV drones are also capable of flying through narrow spaces or approaching targets from unexpected directions.

Shirley a good goose gun with double ought or similar would be devastating to a drone only 27 yards away?

Weird. I must be missing something.
 

Abert

Veteran Member
defence-blog.com
Ukrainian firm develops Chipa net gun to stop FPV drones


Key Points

Ukraine’s BlueBird Tech has developed the Chipa net gun, a close-range device designed to intercept FPV attack drones by firing a 3×3 meter net that entangles propellers at distances of up to 25 meters.
The system is intended as a last-line defensive tool that neutralizes incoming drones without radio interference or revealing the operator’s position.

Ukraine’s BlueBird Tech has developed a new close-range counter-drone device known as the Chipa net gun, designed to intercept first-person-view (FPV) attack drones at short distances on the battlefield.

The system fires a specially designed net that opens in mid-air and entangles the drone’s propellers, stopping it before impact. The Ukrainian company said the device is intended for use when an FPV drone is already approaching a target and other defenses are no longer available.

Ukrainian engineers say that when drones close in on soldiers, vehicles, or defensive positions, conventional electronic warfare systems or firearms may not always provide an immediate solution. The Chipa system is designed to serve as a final defensive option during those moments.


According to BlueBird Tech, the Chipa net gun launches a net measuring roughly three by three meters that spreads open in the air before reaching its target. Once deployed, the net is intended to wrap around the propellers of an approaching FPV drone, causing the aircraft to lose lift and fall before it can strike.

The company states that the effective interception range of the system is up to 25 meters. Within that distance, operators can aim the device and fire the net to capture or disable a drone that is already closing in on a target.

Preparation for use is designed to be rapid. BlueBird Tech says the operator only needs to pull the safety pin, aim the launcher, and press the trigger. The entire process takes only a few seconds, allowing soldiers to react quickly in situations where an incoming FPV drone is already visible and approaching.

Unlike firearms or electronic warfare equipment, the Chipa system does not rely on radio signals or jamming technologies. BlueBird Tech says the net launcher operates mechanically and does not create radio interference during use. Because of that, the device does not reveal the operator’s position through electronic emissions.

The company also notes that the system reduces the risk of dangerous debris compared with other interception methods. Shooting down a drone with firearms can cause fragments to scatter, while electronic warfare systems may cause a drone to fall unpredictably. By capturing the drone with a net, the device aims to neutralize the aircraft while limiting collateral risks.
Chipa net gun (BlueBird Tech pic)

BlueBird Tech described the Chipa launcher as a “last line of defence” tool for situations in which a drone has already bypassed other protective measures. According to the company, the device is intended to complement existing counter-drone systems rather than replace them.

As noted by the company, the need for close-range drone interception tools has grown as FPV drones have become more common on the battlefield.

“In a situation where FPV drones have become one of the key means of attack, solutions for close-range interception are becoming critical,” the engineers at BlueBird Tech said. “BlueBird Tech is constantly working to create effective means of protecting the lives of Ukrainian military personnel.”
Chipa net gun (BlueBird Tech pic)

FPV drones have emerged as one of the most widely used attack systems in the war between Ukraine and Russia. Originally developed for racing and hobbyist use, these small quadcopters have been adapted to carry explosive charges and guided by operators using live video feeds.

Their low cost, maneuverability, and ability to fly close to the ground make them difficult targets for traditional air defense systems. Many FPV drones are also capable of flying through narrow spaces or approaching targets from unexpected directions.

That and #4 shot also works - but 25 meters?? Given the speed of these drones you likely only get one shot off - if you see it in time. Also consider you now need to keep two primary weapons at the ready. Your AK and Shotgun - very new battlefield
 

Abert

Veteran Member

Belgian PM Calls for Russia DEAL as Trump Warns NATO Allies​

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh9piZWtZm4

Run Time 18 min
Belgian PM Bart De Wever has stated that Europe should make a deal with Russia. He argues that the sanctions are not efficient without the US backing and that the EU’s weapons’ deliveries to Ukraine have not been enough to force Russia into making a deal. Donald Trump has sent a warning to NATO allies asking them to help the US in the Middle East by securing the Strait of Hormuz. Some countries have responded negatively which will certainly attract statements from Washington. Trump also stated that the last person the US needs help from is Zelensky. He then urged Zelensky to make a deal by saying that Russian President Vladimir Putin is easier to deal with. Kaja Kallas has criticised the US for easing sanctions on Russian oil, even as oil prices remain at above $100 per barrel. Donald Tusk has warned that Trump’s MAGA movement, Russia and “far-right” in Europe are trying to break up the EU.
  • 0:00 Intro
  • 1:16 Making a deal
  • 7:02 Trump warns NATO
  • 9:31 Trump vs Zelensky
  • 11:48 EU vs Trump
 

Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
That and #4 shot also works - but 25 meters?? Given the speed of these drones you likely only get one shot off - if you see it in time. Also consider you now need to keep two primary weapons at the ready. Your AK and Shotgun - very new battlefield

That's why both sides have been deploying "shot shells" for their issued rifles. That makes it one less thing to carry but it's still a very close up thing and not optimum, still better than nothing.
 

tanstaafl

Has No Life - Lives on TB
That's why both sides have been deploying "shot shells" for their issued rifles. That makes it one less thing to carry but it's still a very close up thing and not optimum, still better than nothing.
You'd basically need the first few rounds in your magazine to be shot shells for it to be available on very short notice. I guess it would depend on whether you expect an infantry assault or a drone assault, but it would suck to have the enemy abruptly drop into your trench and all you initially have to shoot at them is shot shells.
 

Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
You'd basically need the first few rounds in your magazine to be shot shells for it to be available on very short notice. I guess it would depend on whether you expect an infantry assault or a drone assault, but it would suck to have the enemy abruptly drop into your trench and all you initially have to shoot at them is shot shells.

Considering it's up close in that scenario and the projectiles are coming out at around 2x the muzzle velocity of a shotgun round it's probably not optimum but the trade off may be acceptable depending on the threat small drones vs a trench raid.
 

Abert

Veteran Member
Getting hard to separate these 2 US wars.

Zelensky Confirms 200 Ukrainian Drone Operatives Are In Mideast Assisting Against Iran​

Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday offered rare confirmation that his government has sent 200 Ukrainian air defense experts to the Middle East, where they are helping allies to counteract Iranian drone attacks, and on the cheap. Zelensky, who has publicly backed President Trump's decision to attack Iran, explained in statements before British parliament on Tuesday that Ukraine's mastery of low-cost and efficient interceptor drones has revolutionized modern warfare.
 

Abert

Veteran Member
Looks like the EU wants their own hot war with Russia - may get their wish
Russia is considering deploying armed escort teams and naval protection for vessels under the Russian flag.

Presidential aide Nikolai Patrushev said measures are being developed to place special defensive systems on ships and to organize convoy protection by the Russian Navy. He stressed that diplomatic and legal tools are often insufficient amid the Western campaign against Russian shipping.

If new threats emerge from European countries, Russia will implement additional countermeasures.

Patrushev called the attack on the tanker Arktik Metagas in the Mediterranean a blatant act and classified it as international terrorism.
 

Abert

Veteran Member
"The intelligence community assess that Russia has maintained the upper hand in the war against Ukraine. Until an agreement is made, Moscow is likely to continue fighting a slow war of attrition until they view their objectives have been achieved." - Tulsi Gabbard
 

Knoxville's Joker

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"The intelligence community assess that Russia has maintained the upper hand in the war against Ukraine. Until an agreement is made, Moscow is likely to continue fighting a slow war of attrition until they view their objectives have been achieved." - Tulsi Gabbard
Meaning russia will not stop anytime soon as they keep gaining ground. All russia has to do is keep dropping information on how whacked things are and what the leaders are doing.
 

Abert

Veteran Member
Well no surprise here

Ukraine defies Trump by ruling out 2026 presidential elections​

The electoral commission says a fair vote is impossible until six months after a ceasefire is established, setting Kyiv on a collision course with Washington
 
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