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ALERT RUSSIA INVADES UKRAINE - Consolidated Thread
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Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
I tend to believe your first impression is correct--coming from Lindseed's own mouth.
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
consider the source.
By START, wouldn't they always have to keep their "assets" in view?
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
Jward et al--might want to check out Alfaman's thread in the BS.
CaryC
Has No Life - Lives on TB
It will end up with a "he said", "he said" and nothing will come of it.
I mean isn't that what kids do when they get caught with their hands in the cookie jar.
Shouldn't Lindsey be in the US sparing over BBB?
Good overview and timeline - Trump / Putin
What a difference a week makes. Early last week, Donald Trump was calling Vladimir Putin, “crazy,” and claimed he was hitting Ukraine with drones and missiles on May 24 and May 25 without justification. Whether or not Trump was truly ignorant of the facts that provoked Russia’s attack that weekend or was pretending to be uninformed, remains a matter of dispute. That was then.
Now Trump and his team are singing a different tune. Let’s follow the timeline:
Following two Ukrainian terrorist attacks on bridges in Kursk and Bryansk — in the case of the latter, the bridge fell on a civilian passenger train and killed seven people — and Sunday’s drone attack on five Russian airfields that host Russian strategic bombers, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov called US Secretary of State Marco Rubio late on June 1, 2025.
The sanitized State Department version claims that Lavrov wanted to discuss the ongoing conflict in Ukraine and the forthcoming peace talks scheduled for June 2 in Istanbul. During the discussion, both officials reportedly examined various initiatives aimed at resolving the crisis and emphasized the importance of direct negotiations between Russia and Ukraine. Secretary Rubio reaffirmed President Donald Trump’s commitment to supporting talks that lead to lasting peace and expressed condolences for the casualties resulting from recent attacks in Russian regions bordering Ukraine. Yep, Lavrov was sitting around in his pajamas and decided to ring up Marco for a casual chat. That’s the story we’re supposed to swallow?
Here is what I think really happened… Lavrov, at the direction of Vladimir Putin, called Rubio to deliver a stern message and a warning to President Trump. Lavrov conveyed Putin’s deep concern that the US played a role in facilitating these attacks and that the Russian government was prepared to take strong action because the attack on the airfields represented a direct threat to Russia’s nuclear capabilities. Lavrov was sending a simple, stark message: Russia is going to punish Ukraine and any countries that provided assistance, whether materiel or intelligence, to this act of war. I think Marco got the message.
The next day, June 2nd, Russia’s lead negotiator, Vladimir Medinsky, met with Ukraine’s Defense Minister, Rustem Enverovych Umerov, in advance of the formal meeting between the delegations of the two countries. Medinsky delivered an ultimatum to Umerov, i.e., this is your last chance to accept this deal or face worse consequences.
Trump was uncharacteristically silent on social media on Monday and Tuesday. I believe that he was alarmed by Lavrov’s message and, in meeting with his key national security advisors, tried to figure out how to defuse the situation.
We got our first clue on Tuesday, when Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth announced that he would not attend the June 4 meeting of the Ukraine Defense Contact Group (UDCG). Secretary Hegseth’s absence from the June 4, 2025 meeting in Brussels marked the first time a US defense chief did not participate in a UDCG session. Hegseth did not attend the previous gathering in person, but he did make a Zoom appearance.
Then came Wednesday, June 4. We don’t know who initiated the call between Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin, but my money is on Trump. I posted Trump’s Truth Social post about that conversation at the head of this article.
Let’s focus on Trump’s spin about that exchange:
Following that conversation, the US Embassy in Kyiv issued a Security Alert advising US citizens in Ukraine to exercise heightened caution due to an increase in Russian missile and drone attacks across the country. US citizens were urged to be prepared to shelter immediately in case of air raids or other attacks.
Message sent: message delivered. What is remarkable about Putin’s stance on the attacks last weekend is that this marks the first time he is openly accusing Ukraine, and “its supporters,” of terrorism. Quite a contrast to Putin’s previous responses to the terrorist attacks on the Kerch Bridge on October 8, 2022 and the Crocus City Hall on March 22, 2024. The attack on Crocus City Hall resulted in 145 fatalities and 551 injuries, yet Putin did not issue a warning like the one he did today.
Trump’s conversation with Putin also was noteworthy because it marked the first time that Trump confirmed he is talking to Russia about helping secure a deal to prohibit nuclear weapons:
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What Did Lavrov and Putin Tell Rubio and Trump?
What a difference a week makes. Early last week, Donald Trump was calling Vladimir Putin, “crazy,” and claimed he was hitting Ukraine with drones and missiles on May 24 and May 25 without justification. Whether or not Trump was truly ignorant of the facts that provoked Russia’s attack that weekend or was pretending to be uninformed, remains a matter of dispute. That was then.
Now Trump and his team are singing a different tune. Let’s follow the timeline:
Following two Ukrainian terrorist attacks on bridges in Kursk and Bryansk — in the case of the latter, the bridge fell on a civilian passenger train and killed seven people — and Sunday’s drone attack on five Russian airfields that host Russian strategic bombers, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov called US Secretary of State Marco Rubio late on June 1, 2025.
The sanitized State Department version claims that Lavrov wanted to discuss the ongoing conflict in Ukraine and the forthcoming peace talks scheduled for June 2 in Istanbul. During the discussion, both officials reportedly examined various initiatives aimed at resolving the crisis and emphasized the importance of direct negotiations between Russia and Ukraine. Secretary Rubio reaffirmed President Donald Trump’s commitment to supporting talks that lead to lasting peace and expressed condolences for the casualties resulting from recent attacks in Russian regions bordering Ukraine. Yep, Lavrov was sitting around in his pajamas and decided to ring up Marco for a casual chat. That’s the story we’re supposed to swallow?
Here is what I think really happened… Lavrov, at the direction of Vladimir Putin, called Rubio to deliver a stern message and a warning to President Trump. Lavrov conveyed Putin’s deep concern that the US played a role in facilitating these attacks and that the Russian government was prepared to take strong action because the attack on the airfields represented a direct threat to Russia’s nuclear capabilities. Lavrov was sending a simple, stark message: Russia is going to punish Ukraine and any countries that provided assistance, whether materiel or intelligence, to this act of war. I think Marco got the message.
The next day, June 2nd, Russia’s lead negotiator, Vladimir Medinsky, met with Ukraine’s Defense Minister, Rustem Enverovych Umerov, in advance of the formal meeting between the delegations of the two countries. Medinsky delivered an ultimatum to Umerov, i.e., this is your last chance to accept this deal or face worse consequences.
Trump was uncharacteristically silent on social media on Monday and Tuesday. I believe that he was alarmed by Lavrov’s message and, in meeting with his key national security advisors, tried to figure out how to defuse the situation.
We got our first clue on Tuesday, when Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth announced that he would not attend the June 4 meeting of the Ukraine Defense Contact Group (UDCG). Secretary Hegseth’s absence from the June 4, 2025 meeting in Brussels marked the first time a US defense chief did not participate in a UDCG session. Hegseth did not attend the previous gathering in person, but he did make a Zoom appearance.
Then came Wednesday, June 4. We don’t know who initiated the call between Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin, but my money is on Trump. I posted Trump’s Truth Social post about that conversation at the head of this article.
Let’s focus on Trump’s spin about that exchange:
No more name-calling by Trump. He is appropriately respectful, referring to “President Putin,” instead of describing Putin as crazy. I don’t know if this call took place before or after Putin’s televised meeting with his national security team, but Putin’s body language and tone of voice indicated controlled fury. I suspect he adopted the same posture with President Trump during their conversation. Trump left the chat with no doubt about Putin’s intention… he is going to respond in the strongest terms to the attack on the airfields.
Following that conversation, the US Embassy in Kyiv issued a Security Alert advising US citizens in Ukraine to exercise heightened caution due to an increase in Russian missile and drone attacks across the country. US citizens were urged to be prepared to shelter immediately in case of air raids or other attacks.
Message sent: message delivered. What is remarkable about Putin’s stance on the attacks last weekend is that this marks the first time he is openly accusing Ukraine, and “its supporters,” of terrorism. Quite a contrast to Putin’s previous responses to the terrorist attacks on the Kerch Bridge on October 8, 2022 and the Crocus City Hall on March 22, 2024. The attack on Crocus City Hall resulted in 145 fatalities and 551 injuries, yet Putin did not issue a warning like the one he did today.
Trump’s conversation with Putin also was noteworthy because it marked the first time that Trump confirmed he is talking to Russia about helping secure a deal to prohibit nuclear weapons:
Putin knows that Iran does not have a nuke because he signed a security agreement with Iran’s president on January 17, 2025 stipulating that Russia would work with Iran on the peaceful development of nuclear energy. Trump needs a win on the foreign policy front and, if he is smart, he will agree to let Russia help him secure a deal acceptable to Iran.
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GeoInsider
@InsiderGeo
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Multiple sources are reporting that retaliation for Ukraine’s recent attacks on Russian airfields could potentially happen tonight. Russian preparations have been underway for the past few days.
It’s still too early to say for sure we’ll have a clearer picture in a few hours as the situation unfolds.
@InsiderGeo
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Multiple sources are reporting that retaliation for Ukraine’s recent attacks on Russian airfields could potentially happen tonight. Russian preparations have been underway for the past few days.
It’s still too early to say for sure we’ll have a clearer picture in a few hours as the situation unfolds.
jward
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OSINTdefender
@sentdefender
The United States is refusing to provide air defenses to support a “reassurance force” made up of nations in Europe, including the U.K. and France, that are willing to deploy troops to Ukraine after the end of the war, in order to deter any future ceasefire violations by Russia, according to Bloomberg.
@sentdefender
The United States is refusing to provide air defenses to support a “reassurance force” made up of nations in Europe, including the U.K. and France, that are willing to deploy troops to Ukraine after the end of the war, in order to deter any future ceasefire violations by Russia, according to Bloomberg.
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OSINTdefender
@sentdefender
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U.S. President Donald J. Trump has internally described this past weekend’s large-scale drone attack by Ukraine against airbases in Russia as “strong” and “badass” to senior advisors, according to Axios. While the White House and President Trump have been unusually quiet about Ukraine’s recent devastating operation targeting Russia’s fleet of long-range nuclear-capable strategic bombers, privately Trump is said to have marveled at the operation, with one advisor saying, “From an international perspective, you've got a chihuahua inflicting some real damage on a much bigger dog.”
Though President Trump has also told people in recent days that he is concerned the attack will push Russian President Vladimir Putin to retaliate very significantly against Ukraine, setting back his ongoing diplomatic initiative between the two countries, with Trump stating in a post on Truth Social following a call yesterday with President Putin, “President Putin did say, and very strongly, that he will have to respond to the recent attack on the airfields.”
@sentdefender
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U.S. President Donald J. Trump has internally described this past weekend’s large-scale drone attack by Ukraine against airbases in Russia as “strong” and “badass” to senior advisors, according to Axios. While the White House and President Trump have been unusually quiet about Ukraine’s recent devastating operation targeting Russia’s fleet of long-range nuclear-capable strategic bombers, privately Trump is said to have marveled at the operation, with one advisor saying, “From an international perspective, you've got a chihuahua inflicting some real damage on a much bigger dog.”
Though President Trump has also told people in recent days that he is concerned the attack will push Russian President Vladimir Putin to retaliate very significantly against Ukraine, setting back his ongoing diplomatic initiative between the two countries, with Trump stating in a post on Truth Social following a call yesterday with President Putin, “President Putin did say, and very strongly, that he will have to respond to the recent attack on the airfields.”
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WORLD AT WAR
@World_At_War_6
2h
"RUSSIA THREATENS EUROPE WITH TOTAL ANNIHILATION"
Russia has issued a warning to Europe regarding the Oreshnik missile.
Sergei Karakaev, commander of the Strategic Rocket Force:
"The missiles combat equipment guarantees overoming all existing and future missile defence system"
"Given the weapons designated tasks and range it can hit targets across Europe"
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View: https://twitter.com/World_At_War_6/status/1930640767673892905
@World_At_War_6
2h
"RUSSIA THREATENS EUROPE WITH TOTAL ANNIHILATION"
Russia has issued a warning to Europe regarding the Oreshnik missile.
Sergei Karakaev, commander of the Strategic Rocket Force:
"The missiles combat equipment guarantees overoming all existing and future missile defence system"
"Given the weapons designated tasks and range it can hit targets across Europe"
rt <2m
View: https://twitter.com/World_At_War_6/status/1930640767673892905
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Patricia Marins
@pati_marins64
15h
Russians Facing Limited Options
The latest Ukrainian action not only destroyed and damaged Russian strategic bombers but also put Putin in a real pressure.
This was the first time that the Russian nuclear TRIAD was attacked, and according to modern Russian doctrine, the country should have retaliated with nuclear weapons, but it did not, and it is unlikely to do so. Such action would be condemned even by the East.
On this board, the Russians are at a crossroads, not because they risk losing the war, but because the cost may exceed their expectations. The entire Russian strategic fleet is exposed at military bases, and there's nothing that can be done since there are no hangars for these aircraft. Even if adaptations were made, it would violate the START treaty.
The Ukrainians used a truck, but demonstrated more than that. They can maneuver and conduct operations on Russian territory. It's only a matter of time before more drone attacks erupt.
Despite the crossroads, personally, I think the Ukrainian action from a few days ago will motivate the Russians to continue the war. The invasion of Sumy is the possible new front in Transnistria. These are planned moves and do not yet represent the Russian response to Ukrainian attacks. However, excluding the use of nuclear weapons, I don't see what else the Russians can do besides increasing the intensity of their offensive.
Calling for a total mobilization at this moment would be a humanitarian catastrophe, with thousands of poorly trained men becoming massive drone targets. So I believe it is likely that the Russians will intensify the recruitment and increase bonuses.
I find it very unlikely that Putin will negotiate or soften his stance in the face of Ukrainian attacks. Today, I don't see even Trump being capable of brokering peace. I believe the war will continue through this year and, unfortunately, into the next.
The Ukrainian strategy is to show the Russians that they can negotiate now and avoid billions in losses. But this doesn’t seem to work for the Russians. Despite some contrary opinions, Russian doctrine as root of Soviet doctrine and mentality, care less about equipment and lives than about national honor. And yes, Ukrainians also share this trait to some extent, but they are in different circumstances, and I don’t see these intel OPs stopping the slow, but continuous Russian advance.
The Russian push can only be halted with boots on the ground, not through tactical operations, but the Ukrainians are playing with their cards.
@pati_marins64
15h
Russians Facing Limited Options
The latest Ukrainian action not only destroyed and damaged Russian strategic bombers but also put Putin in a real pressure.
This was the first time that the Russian nuclear TRIAD was attacked, and according to modern Russian doctrine, the country should have retaliated with nuclear weapons, but it did not, and it is unlikely to do so. Such action would be condemned even by the East.
On this board, the Russians are at a crossroads, not because they risk losing the war, but because the cost may exceed their expectations. The entire Russian strategic fleet is exposed at military bases, and there's nothing that can be done since there are no hangars for these aircraft. Even if adaptations were made, it would violate the START treaty.
The Ukrainians used a truck, but demonstrated more than that. They can maneuver and conduct operations on Russian territory. It's only a matter of time before more drone attacks erupt.
Despite the crossroads, personally, I think the Ukrainian action from a few days ago will motivate the Russians to continue the war. The invasion of Sumy is the possible new front in Transnistria. These are planned moves and do not yet represent the Russian response to Ukrainian attacks. However, excluding the use of nuclear weapons, I don't see what else the Russians can do besides increasing the intensity of their offensive.
Calling for a total mobilization at this moment would be a humanitarian catastrophe, with thousands of poorly trained men becoming massive drone targets. So I believe it is likely that the Russians will intensify the recruitment and increase bonuses.
I find it very unlikely that Putin will negotiate or soften his stance in the face of Ukrainian attacks. Today, I don't see even Trump being capable of brokering peace. I believe the war will continue through this year and, unfortunately, into the next.
The Ukrainian strategy is to show the Russians that they can negotiate now and avoid billions in losses. But this doesn’t seem to work for the Russians. Despite some contrary opinions, Russian doctrine as root of Soviet doctrine and mentality, care less about equipment and lives than about national honor. And yes, Ukrainians also share this trait to some extent, but they are in different circumstances, and I don’t see these intel OPs stopping the slow, but continuous Russian advance.
The Russian push can only be halted with boots on the ground, not through tactical operations, but the Ukrainians are playing with their cards.
jward
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Tatarigami_UA
@Tatarigami_UA
This may be difficult to accept, but when I first raised concerns about Ukraine’s offensive operations in the Kursk region, I correctly anticipated that it could ultimately lead to Russian forces retaking Kursk and then advancing gradually into Sumy Oblast, and eventually toward Dnipro.
In hindsight, the offensive has proven far more costly than a limited incursion or a strategic defense would have been. A short-term operation, lasting two to four weeks, aimed at creating a modest buffer zone inside Kursk might have preserved resources. Instead, the campaign has resulted in significantly higher losses in both personnel and equipment.
As of May 2025, Ukraine had lost 994 confirmed vehicles in Kursk Oblast, compared with 791 on the Russian side. To put that in perspective, on the Avdiivka–Pokrovsk front, Ukrainian losses stood at 679 vehicles versus 2,352 for Russia.
With Western military aid dwindling- U.S. support reduced for political reasons and Europe unable to supply adequate materiel, and Ukrainian forces struggling to replenish personnel, the scale of losses sustained in Kursk is nothing but a serious operational-strategic misjudgment at the senior level.
As I have pointed from the outset, Russia was ultimately able to concentrate sufficient forces to retake Kursk without significantly weakening its positions in Pokrovsk. Only very limited Russian units were redeployed from the Pokrovsk direction, while Ukraine shifted tens of thousands of troops, leaving that front undermanned and accelerating Russia’s gains there.
Unless the loss ratio begins to shift decisively in Ukraine’s favor, Russian forces are likely to continue advancing, both into Sumy Oblast and, gradually, toward Dnipro. Yet the Ukrainian military and political leadership at times appears more focused on performative media operations than on articulating a long-term strategic vision for the battlefield beyond few months
@Tatarigami_UA
This may be difficult to accept, but when I first raised concerns about Ukraine’s offensive operations in the Kursk region, I correctly anticipated that it could ultimately lead to Russian forces retaking Kursk and then advancing gradually into Sumy Oblast, and eventually toward Dnipro.
In hindsight, the offensive has proven far more costly than a limited incursion or a strategic defense would have been. A short-term operation, lasting two to four weeks, aimed at creating a modest buffer zone inside Kursk might have preserved resources. Instead, the campaign has resulted in significantly higher losses in both personnel and equipment.
As of May 2025, Ukraine had lost 994 confirmed vehicles in Kursk Oblast, compared with 791 on the Russian side. To put that in perspective, on the Avdiivka–Pokrovsk front, Ukrainian losses stood at 679 vehicles versus 2,352 for Russia.
With Western military aid dwindling- U.S. support reduced for political reasons and Europe unable to supply adequate materiel, and Ukrainian forces struggling to replenish personnel, the scale of losses sustained in Kursk is nothing but a serious operational-strategic misjudgment at the senior level.
As I have pointed from the outset, Russia was ultimately able to concentrate sufficient forces to retake Kursk without significantly weakening its positions in Pokrovsk. Only very limited Russian units were redeployed from the Pokrovsk direction, while Ukraine shifted tens of thousands of troops, leaving that front undermanned and accelerating Russia’s gains there.
Unless the loss ratio begins to shift decisively in Ukraine’s favor, Russian forces are likely to continue advancing, both into Sumy Oblast and, gradually, toward Dnipro. Yet the Ukrainian military and political leadership at times appears more focused on performative media operations than on articulating a long-term strategic vision for the battlefield beyond few months
jward
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ChrisO_wiki
@ChrisO_wiki
1/ Russian Black Sea Fleet submarines based in Novorossiysk are reportedly suffering from constant mechanical breakdowns, which are being blamed on sabotage. The suspected culprits, however, are not Ukrainians but the fleet's own personnel.
2/ The VChK-OGPU Telegram channel reports that according to a source, "since the beginning of 2024, constant breakdowns have been occurring on submarines of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation."
3/ "Because of this, all ships of the Black Sea Fleet were sent for inspection. More interesting is the reason for what happened. It is not [Ukrainian] saboteurs who are under suspicion, but the personnel of the fleet.
4/ "According to the source, over 50 minor incidents occurred on the submarines Kolpino and Krasnodar over the year, which slowed down their scheduled and combat work. The most common is a leak in the fuel cylinder.
5/ "In order to check the accident rate of the boats, unscheduled repairs were scheduled for all boats of the Novorossiysk base, based on the results, navigational repairs of the submarines Velikiy Novgorod and Krasnodar were extended.
6/ "At the same time, the fleet command, with the participation of divisional mechanical engineers and the commander of military unit 80515 [the 4th Separate Submarine Brigade], Captain 1st Rank Skarga, are focused on constantly fixing the breakdowns.
7/ "They prefer not to talk about the reasons for what is happening. According to the source, all the breakdowns have obvious signs of interference: a loose lubricator drive, a gearbox failure, etc.
View: https://twitter.com/ChrisO_wiki/status/1930671131612098681
8/ "The main suspects are the junior officers who arrived to continue their service. During the replacement or repair of any part, the crew can rest easy." /end
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t.me
@ChrisO_wiki
1/ Russian Black Sea Fleet submarines based in Novorossiysk are reportedly suffering from constant mechanical breakdowns, which are being blamed on sabotage. The suspected culprits, however, are not Ukrainians but the fleet's own personnel.
2/ The VChK-OGPU Telegram channel reports that according to a source, "since the beginning of 2024, constant breakdowns have been occurring on submarines of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation."
3/ "Because of this, all ships of the Black Sea Fleet were sent for inspection. More interesting is the reason for what happened. It is not [Ukrainian] saboteurs who are under suspicion, but the personnel of the fleet.
4/ "According to the source, over 50 minor incidents occurred on the submarines Kolpino and Krasnodar over the year, which slowed down their scheduled and combat work. The most common is a leak in the fuel cylinder.
5/ "In order to check the accident rate of the boats, unscheduled repairs were scheduled for all boats of the Novorossiysk base, based on the results, navigational repairs of the submarines Velikiy Novgorod and Krasnodar were extended.
6/ "At the same time, the fleet command, with the participation of divisional mechanical engineers and the commander of military unit 80515 [the 4th Separate Submarine Brigade], Captain 1st Rank Skarga, are focused on constantly fixing the breakdowns.
7/ "They prefer not to talk about the reasons for what is happening. According to the source, all the breakdowns have obvious signs of interference: a loose lubricator drive, a gearbox failure, etc.
View: https://twitter.com/ChrisO_wiki/status/1930671131612098681
8/ "The main suspects are the junior officers who arrived to continue their service. During the replacement or repair of any part, the crew can rest easy." /end
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MAKS 25
@Maks_NAFO_FELLA
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️️There is information that a strong Russian strike will be tonight, — People's Deputy Kostenko
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Russian ambassador partly blames UK for Ukrainian drone attack
Russia's UK ambassador has told Sky News that Ukraine's recent attacks risk escalating the conflict to "World War III" as he partly blamed the UK.
Andrei Kelin warned that Ukraine's actions "are bringing the conflict to a different level of escalation", in an interview with Sky News' Yalda Hakim, and said Kyiv should "not try to engulf World War III".
"That's the very worst case scenario that we can imagine," he said.
More than a hundred Ukrainian drones were deployed inside Russia over the weekend, destroying more than 40 warplanes in an attack Volodymyr Zelenskyy said "will undoubtedly be in history books".
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New Ukraine drone attack video analysed
Mr Kelin pointed the finger at the UK when he said Ukraine must have had assistance in the attacks.
"[This] kind of attack involves, of course, provision of very high technology, so-called geospaced data, which only can be done by those who have it in possession. And this is London and Washington," he said.
"I don't believe that America [is involved], that has been denied by President Trump, definitely, but it has not been denied by London.
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"We perfectly know how much London is involved, how deeply British forces are involved in working together with Ukraine."
On Wednesday, Donald Trump said Vladimir Putin told him "very strongly" that Russia "will have to respond to the recent attack on the airfields".
The US president said that he discussed the attack with Mr Putin during a phone call that lasted more than an hour.
"It was a good conversation, but not a conversation that will lead to immediate peace," he wrote.
Mr Kelin repeated this sentiment, telling Sky News: "It is up to the Ministry of Defence to make a right solution, but we have to respond to it."
A Downing Street spokesperson said: "We never comment on operational matters at home or abroad."
news.sky.com
Russian ambassador partly blames UK for Ukrainian drone attack
Russia's UK ambassador has told Sky News that Ukraine's recent attacks risk escalating the conflict to "World War III" as he partly blamed the UK.
Andrei Kelin warned that Ukraine's actions "are bringing the conflict to a different level of escalation", in an interview with Sky News' Yalda Hakim, and said Kyiv should "not try to engulf World War III".
"That's the very worst case scenario that we can imagine," he said.
More than a hundred Ukrainian drones were deployed inside Russia over the weekend, destroying more than 40 warplanes in an attack Volodymyr Zelenskyy said "will undoubtedly be in history books".
Please use Chrome browser for a more accessible video player
New Ukraine drone attack video analysed
Mr Kelin pointed the finger at the UK when he said Ukraine must have had assistance in the attacks.
"[This] kind of attack involves, of course, provision of very high technology, so-called geospaced data, which only can be done by those who have it in possession. And this is London and Washington," he said.
"I don't believe that America [is involved], that has been denied by President Trump, definitely, but it has not been denied by London.
More on Russia
Vladimir Putin makes a video address dedicated to the 70th anniversary of the Baikonur Cosmodrome, in Moscow, Russia June 2, 2025. Sputnik/
Why Putin is in 'victim mode' over Ukraine's airbase drone attack
FILE PHOTO: U.S. President Donald Trump and Russia's President Vladimir Putin shake hands as they meet in Helsinki, Finland July 16, 2018. REUTERS/Kevin Lamarque/File Photo
Putin 'very strongly' vowed revenge against Ukraine for drone strike on airbases, Donald Trump says
Pic: London Fire Brigade
Russian mercenary group ordered arson attack on London warehouse linked to Ukraine, Old Bailey hears
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Explosion recorded on Crimea bridge
"We perfectly know how much London is involved, how deeply British forces are involved in working together with Ukraine."
On Wednesday, Donald Trump said Vladimir Putin told him "very strongly" that Russia "will have to respond to the recent attack on the airfields".
The US president said that he discussed the attack with Mr Putin during a phone call that lasted more than an hour.
"It was a good conversation, but not a conversation that will lead to immediate peace," he wrote.
Mr Kelin repeated this sentiment, telling Sky News: "It is up to the Ministry of Defence to make a right solution, but we have to respond to it."
A Downing Street spokesperson said: "We never comment on operational matters at home or abroad."
Russian ambassador partly blames UK for Ukrainian drone attack
Andrei Kelin pointed the finger at the UK when he said Ukraine must have had assistance in the weekend's drone attacks.
jward
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Sprinter Observer
@SprinterObserve
Unusual:
A Massive Blow to Ukraine:
Ukrainian forces lost access to Maxar satellite imagery—which was crucial for tracking battlefield movements, planning counterattacks, and directing Western systems like HIMARS.
Hackers from the Killnet and Beregini groups breached the system and extracted Russian location data, disrupting the service—leaving Ukraine "blind" on the ground for months to come.
Maxar, run by the U.S. Special Operations Command, is an intelligence agency with a civilian guise. Its imagery has been used by Ukraine, the West, the media, and military analysts.
But surprisingly, Russian cyber experts obtained a list of the system's administrators—which included names from the U.S. Cyber Operations Directorate, including one named Armen Kurginyan.
This breach was a game-changer. Kyiv's forces were no longer able to track troops, analyze battles, or assess the damage from strikes.
View: https://twitter.com/SprinterObserve/status/1930664790717829605
Ragnarok
On and On, South of Heaven
Putin pulled out of the START treaty in 2023
Ragnarok
On and On, South of Heaven
The START Treaty is null and void
Ragnarok
On and On, South of Heaven
Agree 100% with everything except that last paragraph
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
Russia's UK ambassador has told Sky News that Ukraine's recent attacks risk escalating the conflict to "World War III" as he partly blamed the UK.
"[This] kind of attack involves, of course, provision of very high technology, so-called geospaced data, which only can be done by those who have it in possession. And this is London and Washington," he said.
"I don't believe that America [is involved], that has been denied by President Trump, definitely, but it has not been denied by London.
"We perfectly know how much London is involved, how deeply British forces are involved in working together with Ukraine."
On Wednesday, Donald Trump said Vladimir Putin told him "very strongly" that Russia "will have to respond to the recent attack on the airfields".
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And talk is Russia may attack tonight, huh?
things not looking good for Uk or UK
This just feels like it has been the longest week...
wait-n-see
Veteran Member
Trump calls Putin. Zelensky fears SMO upgrade. German missiles for Ukraine. Tucker, Iran war warning
Run time - 45:11
Jun 5, 2025
0:00 - Video update introduction from Athens, Greece
1:00 - Discussion on Putin's statements regarding Ukraine
3:08 - Putin's accusations against Ukraine
5:19 - Putin's comments on Ukrainian leadership and negotiations
10:00 - Alenski's response to Russian memorandum
11:24 - Concerns about potential escalation of conflict
12:28 - Trump and Putin phone call details
14:28 - Trump's stance on Iran and nuclear weapons
22:59 - Analysis of Trump's foreign policy challenges
26:34 - Discussion on US State Department warning and NYT article
31:57 - Germany's involvement in Ukraine with long-range missiles
36:36 - UK plans to increase drone production for Ukraine
39:14 - South Korea's new president comments on Ukraine conflict
39:18 - US travel ban on citizens from 12 countries
41:37 - Tucker Carlson's views on Iran and potential war
43:13 - Investigation into Biden's presidency and decision-making
jward
passin' thru
GeoInsider
@InsiderGeo
15m
Activity from Russian strategic aviation has just been detected. We may see bombers taking off soon.
We’re watching closely.
View: https://twitter.com/InsiderGeo/status/1930706515016487311
kim høvik
@kimhvik2
15m
Russian strategic aviation activity.
Combat frequency active.
Likely depatures later.
Likely TU-160/TU-95MS.
jward
passin' thru
we had posted the info up thread collaborating your points..
Right but keeping aircraft in the open was never a requirement of the start treaty.
jward
passin' thru
GeoInsider
@InsiderGeo
Since a lot of people are making claims and a few are throwing accusations let’s stick to the facts.
On the night of June 5–6, a bright light was seen across central and northern Kazakhstan Astana, Karaganda, Pavlodar, and Kostanay.
Kazakhstan’s Ministry of Digital Development confirmed: this was the reentry of a space object, not a missile.
No debris was found, no airspace violations were recorded, and no threat was detected confirmed by both the Ministry of Defense and international tracking data.
Three possible reentries were recorded during that window:
1. Chinese Zhuque-2E rocket stage
• Reentry: June 5, ~22:40 (Astana time)
• Launched May 17 by LandSpace
• Bright glow expected (methane/oxygen fuel)
Most likely match both in timing and region
2. Starlink-1631 (SpaceX)
• June 6, 03:41 (Almaty time)
3. Japanese H-2A booster
• June 6, 00:36 (Almaty time)
Also worth noting: the regions where this was visible align closely with what I pointed out earlier central/northern Kazakhstan, not near the Russian border where a failed missile would more likely be observed.
View: https://twitter.com/InsiderGeo/status/1930717678676988130
GeoInsider
@InsiderGeo
18m
And now suddenly we’re believing random Russian bloggers claiming this was a missile?
Let’s be real half the time they barely know what they’re talking about, and the other half they’re farming engagement. We never trusted their analysis before why start now?
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
other thread says this was going south to north.
Wrong direction for anything Russia was sending out in regards to Ukraine--or Europe.
YEP - he was not keen on giving US and NATO inspectors access to their Nuclear weapon systems.
TheSearcher
Are you sure about that?
(keep watching Trump and Elon)
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
If the attack on the airport is another by Ukraine---
Zelensky won't be happy until he starts WW III.
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