ALERT RUSSIA INVADES UKRAINE - Consolidated Thread

Nowski

Let's Go Brandon!
I have seen no proof that this is a goal....
You are correct.

The new Russia is no longer communist. The communist
are in the ZUSA. The new Russia, simply wants to be left
alone to actually be a part of Europe, however that was
not to be allowed.

Russia knows how bad communism was and is, and they
want no part of it. I know how bad the history of all of
Europe is, and peoples there cannot move beyond much
of that history.

Remember one thing if you will. Russia became communist,
because of the banks of New York City, London, and Berlin,
financed the POS Bolsheviks.

The only thing left now for Russia, is to stomp the living shitz
out of the Ukrainian army, and then say, "NEXT".

I no longer pray for the ZUSA, but I do pray for the
new Russia, and its peoples.

Please be safe everyone.

Regards to all.

Nowski
 

Cedar Lake

Connecticut Yankee

Claim: Ukrainian and Russian casualties according to MOSSAD​

25-01-2023, 11:53
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As the first year of the Russia-Ukraine war is approaching, the war losses claimed by Israeli intelligence reveal the terrible dimensions of the war.
Allegedly, the field data of January 14, 2023, based on Israeli intelligence, is listed as follows:

RUSSIA:

Russian losses
in the field with 418 thousand soldiers (plus 3,500,000 reservists) and a growing number of Wagner mercenaries :

23 Planes

56 Helicopters

200 (S)İHA

889 Tanks and armored vehicles

427 Howitzer (Artillery systems)

12 Air defense system

18,480 dead

44,500 Injured

323 Captive


UKRAINE:

The casualties of Ukraine
, which was on the ground with 734 thousand soldiers (plus 100 thousand reserve soldiers) and NATO officers, soldiers and mercenaries, are as follows:

302 Aircraft

212 Helicopters

2.750 (S)İHA

6,320 Tanks and armored vehicles

7.360 Howitzer (Artillery systems)

497 Air defense system

157,000 Dead

234,000 injured

17,230 Captive


234 Dead – NATO military trainers (US and UK)

2,458 Dead – NATO soldiers (Germany, Poland, Lithuania, ...)

5,360 Dead – Mercenaries

(Agency)
 

bw

Fringe Ranger
"The territorial defence brigades and motorized infantry brigades formed from mobilized people will tear up the Russian defences first. If enough of these formations are gathered, they will be able to break through the first line of defence, obviously at a cost of colossal losses.

Next, the cadre brigades of the AFU, armed with Soviet-era vehicles, are set to go into battle. They are destined to die pushing through the Russian defenses and in battle with Russian mobile units. But if successful, they will pave the way for the new mechanized corps equipped with modern Western weapons, to break through the Russian lines cleanly. There will also be diversionary offensives, in other directions, to hold back the redeployment of reserves.
This reminds me of the description by David Lloyd-George about the impressive briefings delivered by Western Front generals in WWI, the sweeping hands and grand predictions of breakthroughs and massive penetrations. They were followed by bloodbaths and continued stalemate, but damn the briefings were impressive.
 

wait-n-see

Veteran Member
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Ukr Fighter: Hm [long pause] hm… well, this kind of statistic is too negative. I feel that it is longer [than 4 hours].

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A big difference between the 2 sides and the personnel they are filling their formations with.

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View: https://twitter.com/baronitaigas/status/1622110637991104513?cxt=HHwWgsC8vf3B8oItAAAA

View: https://twitter.com/witte_sergei/status/1622292642439757824?cxt=HHwWgIDQpYSkxYMtAAAA


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And more cannon fodder for Zippy.

Age, and sex, don't matter as all are welcome, and now REQUIRED, to die a needless and horrible death for the glorification and power of blood sucking Zippy and the DS!

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View: https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1622282765910654977?cxt=HHwWgoC-tZLlwIMtAAAA
 
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Melodi

Disaster Cat
What is wrong with ordering Ukrainian Refugees in the UK to go to the Ukrainian embassy and have their landlords report to the UK Government?

First, the volunteers with people living in their houses did not sign on to betray the trust of the people living with them.

Second, the UK government has ALREADY granted these people refugee status. If they have decided to change that to something else, they should inform them they are now "prospective combatants" and give them a week or three to leave the country if they disagree (10 to 1, they will come to Ireland - they may sleep on the streets for a few days, but they won't be drafted).

If we had taken in people (and we offered, especially a gay or lesbian couple since it was my housemate's idea and she's gay as well as an engineer) and the Irish government sent me a letter like that. I wouldn't just publish it in the paper. I would look for EU countries that were not doing this (note the UK is no longer in the EU, but Germany is). Spain would work. There are many Irish there, and I help them get tickets on the next ferry crossing or Ryan Air flight.

I take sanctuary and hospitality very seriously. If it is to be broken, I'm going to give a warning and not enable it after having offered it. I won't be surprised if Ireland goes along with the EU if they do this (though they are still technically neutral). But we live too far in the boonies for refugees. There is no public transit here which is a requirement, and so is a private bathroom (for houses, not refugee centers). We can't provide either of those at this time.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
You are correct.

The new Russia is no longer communist. The communist
are in the ZUSA. The new Russia, simply wants to be left
alone to actually be a part of Europe, however that was
not to be allowed.

Russia knows how bad communism was and is, and they
want no part of it. I know how bad the history of all of
Europe is, and peoples there cannot move beyond much
of that history.

Remember one thing if you will. Russia became communist,
because of the banks of New York City, London, and Berlin,
financed the POS Bolsheviks.

The only thing left now for Russia, is to stomp the living shitz
out of the Ukrainian army, and then say, "NEXT".

I no longer pray for the ZUSA, but I do pray for the
new Russia, and its peoples.

Please be safe everyone.

Regards to all.

Nowski
Most of today's Real commies think that Russia has lost its way and become a Christan country again and that they will not support it in techno-capitalist oligarchy ways.

Or so my housemate tells me she's a card-carrying member and also told me, "I was taught that proper revolutions take generations, and Russia wasn't ready yet."

And forget China. They are also "Communists in name only" and also "Were not ready for the revolution."

Thankfully, she seems to enjoy being an engineer, making a good salary and was recently looking into property investment and becoming a landlord. I don't point out her deviations from the belief system she was raised with (in Bavaria, not East Germany), and I don't poke holes in hers. Even when I find them slightly amusing.

I did just point out when she told me she just found out she knit "Russian Style," that it must have been popular with the Bolsavicks and not modern Russians - she can take that much teasing.
 

AlfaMan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
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The eulogy which is all that so many fighting men receive in all wars.

So very sad. Found out in such a way that the news was less important than " a bowl of soup". :shk:

It would be an honor to serve with this man, who cares this much for his comrades.

Hopefully someone in his unit is able to comfort him.

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Bakhmut hell.

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View: https://twitter.com/gahamalian/status/1622063139473981440
View: https://twitter.com/UkrainianNews24/status/1622248526683033602
Appropriate sound track to these videos.

Kino-Gruppa Krovi-(blood type)

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtxjm7ciwmc



English lyrics

English Lyrics

Cozy place, but the streets await
Prints left by my boot
Stardust sits...
Right on my boots
A soft seat, a checkered plaid
A trigger not pulled in time
A sunny day
In dreams that blind

My blood type, pinned on my sleeve
And my number and rank, there on the sleeve
Wish me luck in the battles to come
Wish me , now, please
Not to lay there in the grass
Not to lay dead in the grass
Wish me luck in the battle
Wish me luck in... the battle

Yes I could pay, but I do not want
To win at any cost
I do not want
My boots on somebody's throat
I want to stay here with you
Simply stay here with you
But the star up high in the sky
Urges me forth

My blood type, pinned on my sleeve
And my number and rank, there on the sleeve
Wish me luck in the battles to come
Wish me , now, please
Not to lay there in the grass
Not to lay dead in the grass
Wish me luck in the battle
Wish me luck in... the battle.
 

von Koehler

Has No Life - Lives on TB
The Ukainians do not have to physically invade Crimea. All they have to do is don't allow irrigation water to flow to it. Crimea is a about 80 percent dependent on this water.

Crops will fail. Food shortages will be a serious concern. Water will be rationed.

When the Ukainians get longer range precision weapons, they could can systematically take out Russian assets. Ships, ports, ammo, fuel, troops are all legitimate military targets.

I suspect millions of Russians will decide to flee Crimes while they can.

War is hell, and Putin started it.
 

von Koehler

Has No Life - Lives on TB
brilliant attack on the Kerch bridge

update with map and good video of soledar and bakhmut situation at 8:45

View: https://youtu.be/2jcJWHijUVU

I would attack the railroad bridge, but leave the highway alone for now.

When the battle for Crimea starts there are going to be lots of civilians fleeing back to Mother Russia.

It doesn't matter if Russia is ruled by the Tsar, communists, or Putin.

Demographics, geography, resources, etc. always lead to the same military conclusion.
Russia has always tried to control access to the flat plains. Only the Soviet Union succeeded in getting all the invasion routes covered.

It is no wonder that just before the Russian invasion started, the Kremlin insisted the old boundaries be re-established. That is about 180 million people and many different countries. It makes sense that Poland and the Baltic states are supporting Ukraine; they know all too well what means to be a vassel state of Russia.

Ukraine has no choice in the matter: if Russia wins they will be slaughtered by their "big brother" fellow Slavs
 
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raven

TB Fanatic
The Ukainians do not have to physically invade Crimea. All they have to do is don't allow irrigation water to flow to it. Crimea is a about 80 percent dependent on this water.

Crops will fail. Food shortages will be a serious concern. Water will be rationed.

When the Ukainians get longer range precision weapons, they could can systematically take out Russian assets. Ships, ports, ammo, fuel, troops are all legitimate military targets.

I suspect millions of Russians will decide to flee Crimes while they can.

War is hell, and Putin started it.
they already did that.
Ukraine shut down the canal in 2014 soon after Russia annexed Crimea.
 

von Koehler

Has No Life - Lives on TB
they already did that.
Ukraine shut down the canal in 2014 soon after Russia annexed Crimea.

And when the Russians invaded, one of first things they did was to reopen the irrigation sluice line.

So, all the Ukainians have to do is NOT open it up for the growing season.
 

subnet

Boot
Then you really need to watch the video in post number 45,980 above.
Watched but there was no proof, that rebuilding the ussr is the goal...just theory which is just guessing at this point.
As i have stated before, i dont support either side (screw em both) and basically any news we get from our side, is just as pumped full of crap as the other side..no real info, just propaganda everywhere.
Until proven otherwise, im sticking with this whole thing being a WEF/Globalist attempt to shut down a nation for not taking a knee.
 

wait-n-see

Veteran Member
Appropriate sound track to these videos.

Kino-Gruppa Krovi-(blood type)

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtxjm7ciwmc



English lyrics

English Lyrics

Cozy place, but the streets await
Prints left by my boot
Stardust sits...
Right on my boots
A soft seat, a checkered plaid
A trigger not pulled in time
A sunny day
In dreams that blind

My blood type, pinned on my sleeve
And my number and rank, there on the sleeve
Wish me luck in the battles to come
Wish me , now, please
Not to lay there in the grass
Not to lay dead in the grass
Wish me luck in the battle
Wish me luck in... the battle

Yes I could pay, but I do not want
To win at any cost
I do not want
My boots on somebody's throat
I want to stay here with you
Simply stay here with you
But the star up high in the sky
Urges me forth

My blood type, pinned on my sleeve
And my number and rank, there on the sleeve
Wish me luck in the battles to come
Wish me , now, please
Not to lay there in the grass
Not to lay dead in the grass
Wish me luck in the battle
Wish me luck in... the battle.

Good choice!

However, I got to admit being partial to this ( Scots Irish heritage on one side of the family - Bagpipes always give me a rush) .

Been hearing it since I saw the warrior describing how he found out during rations handout that his comrades had died.

Sgt MacKenzie - We Were Soldiers Soundtrack with Lyrics​

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB2Ad04mukI


Runtime 4:39

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English Translation

Lay me down in the cold cold ground
Where before many more have gone
Lay me down in the cold cold ground
Where before many more have gone

When they come I will stand my ground
Stand my ground I will not be afraid

Thoughts of home take away my fear
Sweat and blood hide my veil of tears

Once a year say a prayer for me
Close your eyes and remember me

Never more shall I see the sun
For I fell to a Germans gun

Lay me down in the cold cold ground
Where before many more have gone
Lay me down in the cold cold ground
Where before many more have gone

Where before many more have gone

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von Koehler

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Watched but there was no proof, that rebuilding the ussr is the goal...just theory which is just guessing at this point.
As i have stated before, i don't support either side (screw em both) and basically any news we get from our side, is just as pumped full of crap as the other side..no real info, just propaganda everywhere.

Then you missed his mention of the 8 wars started under Putin. Historical facts are "proof."

Never said Putin wanted to re-establish the U.S.S.R. What Putin wants is the same old borders for Russia.

Agreed that there are lots of misinformation and propaganda from all sides.
 

Roger Thornhill

Some irascible old curmudgeon
Russian losses :18,480 dead, 44,500 Injured, 323 Captive Ukraine: 157,000 Dead, 234,000 injured,17,230 Captive

These numbers almost exactly match those obtained by Colonel MacGregor from his contacts deep within the State Department / CIA. They are most likely very accurate.

They are also appalling, and clearly show that Ukraine has no possibility of winning this conflict. The numbers will become even more imbalanced, probably well over 10:1 loss ratio, as hastily "recruited" civilians enter the battle. There is no way of achieving a victory under these conditions.
 

subnet

Boot
Then you missed his mention of the 8 wars started under Putin. Historical facts are "proof."

Never said Putin wanted to re-establish the U.S.S.R. What Putin wants is the same old borders for Russia.

Agreed that there are lots of misinformation and propaganda from all sides.
Proof of what?? That they have had 8 wars ..is it..how many have we had or the UK ect..ect
If we follow that thought process, it means we are out to rule the globe too.
 

Doc1

Has No Life - Lives on TB

KIEV REGIME LOOKING FOR NEW SOLDIERS AMONG UKRAINIAN REFUGEES ABROAD​

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The SouthFront Team received a letter from one of our readers from England. He takes part in the UK Government Homes For Ukraine initiative and hosts a young couple of refugees from Ukraine.

On January 30, he received an official letter from the Department of Equalization, Housing and Communities. The host was demanded to provide the following personal data of his guests:

  1. Whether the sponsor hosts or hosted a Ukrainian refugee(s)
  2. Whether there is (are) a male person(s) among the refugees aged 18 plus
  3. In case a male person(s) left the residence, report this(their) posible location and other available informmation
  4. A male Ukrainian(s) aged 18 plus personal info: name, surname, middle name, age, current location of residence
In their turn, the refugees have to visit the Ukrainian embassy to “specify their personal data individually”.

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Our reader wondered what was the reason for collecting such data about his guests:


Obviously, this is not just a survey on Ukrainian refugees. The fact that the embassy is interested exclusively in Ukrainian men over the age of 18 indicates that this measures are taken amid some mobilization procedures. It is likely that the Kiev regime is starting to look for new soldiers among refugees abroad amid the ongoing preparations for the spring offensive on the fronts which was recently announced by Biden.

Earlier, the National Bank of Ukraine predicted that at the beginning of 2023 the total number of refugees from the country will increase to nine million people. Which is probably a fairly modest forecast.

The general mobilization of Ukrainians continues amid fierce fighting along the entire front line of Donbass, heavy losses of the Ukrainian Army and the outflow of foreign mercenaries. For example, on January 1, the founder of the private military company “Mozart” Andrew Milburn recognized the victory of the PMC “Wagner” and announced that his mercenaries are leaving Ukraine.

The mobilization resource in the country is sharply decreasing. The AFU mobilizes people of older age groups, with chronic diseases, who have not served in the army, that is, those categories of the population who are unlikely to be good soldiers. Ukrainian men are captured by the military right on the streets throughout the country. LINK, LINK

Kiev Regime Looking For New Soldiers Among Ukrainian Refugees Abroad
The Ministry of Defense of the United Kingdom has published training footage of Ukrainian crews of Challenger 2 tanks
The search for soldiers abroad may be an attempt to facilitate military supply chains to Ukraine and training of Ukrainian soldiers abroad. Ukrainians who are currently being hunted by the embassy can be mobilized to undergo training in the UK and join the crews of Challenger 2 tanks and participate in other exercises. So the refugees will soon return to their country, but already as part of combat units.

On January 14, the UK was the first among NATO countries to announce the transfer of 14 Challenger 2 tanks to Kiev. The other day, the Kingdom’s Defense Minister declared that the AFU would receive tanks before the beginning of summer. On February 5, British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak called Zelensky to tell him that British instructors had begun to train Ukrainians to operate Challenger 2 tanks. Sunak promised to make every effort to ensure that “British military equipment arrived at the front as soon as possible.”

In addition to the UK, the training of Ukrainian tankers was organized in Germany, where they are taught to operate German-made Leopard tanks.

Despite the claims of the military officials that Ukrainians are quickly mastering the operation of foreign tanks, some Western experts doubted that Ukrainian tankers would be able to master the management of complex Western military equipment within a few weeks, even if they already have experience in managing Soviet tanks. If the Kiev regime begins mobilizing new servicemen among the refugees in the NATO countries, their training would take even more time.

So the clock starts ticking today, On February 5, British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak called Zelensky to tell him that British instructors had begun to train Ukrainians to operate the 14 Challenger 2 tanks.
Ukrainians who are currently being hunted by the embassy can be mobilized to undergo training in the UK and join the crews of Challenger 2 tanks and participate in other exercises. So the refugees will soon return to their country, but already as part of combat units.

''I love it when a plan pulls together''

One thing bears mentioning and that is the fact that the letter illustrated above - which was a product of the UK government and not Ukraine - was only demanding information about men 18 and over and said absolutely nothing about drafting women.

What? There's no righteous indignation from the UK government about the overtly sexist nature of this call up? What's worse is that the UK government is willing to assist the Ukrainian government in this example of overt sexist policy! Why aren't there tens of thousands of women marching in the streets, demanding that all Ukrainian citizens be treated as equals? Oh, the humanity!

Of course you all know the reasons for this: When shit gets real and the rubber hits the road, all of the 'Woke' bullshit in the world flies right out the window!

Suddenly, it seems that governments aren't really interested in cross-dressing soldiers, classes that teach women that they're just as capable as men on the battlefield, training men to wear pregnancy bellies and high heels, diversity and sensitivity training, and on and on and on and on.

When it's time to stop playing at soldiering and get down to real battle preps, governments want men. They want to teach them to kill each other efficiently and they don't want to waste uniforms and weapons on women to make political points. Equally one should note, there's no apparent outrage from women who - supposedly - are just dying to get out there and wind up maimed or killed!

Few things unmask hypocrisy and stupidity as much and as quickly as war.

Best
Doc
 

Abert

Veteran Member
This video is very worthwhile viewing. Mr. Mercouris goes into significant detail over the reported 200,000 Russians supposedly killed and wounded. He dismantles those numbers and makes an excellent case that the real figures are much, much lower.

Best
Doc

Claim: Ukrainian and Russian casualties according to MOSSAD​

25-01-2023, 11:53
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As the first year of the Russia-Ukraine war is approaching, the war losses claimed by Israeli intelligence reveal the terrible dimensions of the war.
Allegedly, the field data of January 14, 2023, based on Israeli intelligence, is listed as follows:

RUSSIA:

Russian losses
in the field with 418 thousand soldiers (plus 3,500,000 reservists) and a growing number of Wagner mercenaries :

23 Planes

56 Helicopters

200 (S)İHA

889 Tanks and armored vehicles

427 Howitzer (Artillery systems)

12 Air defense system

18,480 dead

44,500 Injured

323 Captive


UKRAINE:

The casualties of Ukraine
, which was on the ground with 734 thousand soldiers (plus 100 thousand reserve soldiers) and NATO officers, soldiers and mercenaries, are as follows:

302 Aircraft

212 Helicopters

2.750 (S)İHA

6,320 Tanks and armored vehicles

7.360 Howitzer (Artillery systems)

497 Air defense system

157,000 Dead

234,000 injured

17,230 Captive


234 Dead – NATO military trainers (US and UK)

2,458 Dead – NATO soldiers (Germany, Poland, Lithuania, ...)

5,360 Dead – Mercenaries

(Agency)
The number of Russian and Ukrainian losses closely match numbers put out by Col. Douglas Macgregor (and others) - given that Israel has attempted to balance themselves between the US and Russia - not taking sides - likely valid numbers
 

Cedar Lake

Connecticut Yankee
These numbers almost exactly match those obtained by Colonel MacGregor from his contacts deep within the State Department / CIA. They are most likely very accurate.

They are also appalling, and clearly show that Ukraine has no possibility of winning this conflict. The numbers will become even more imbalanced, probably well over 10:1 loss ratio, as hastily "recruited" civilians enter the battle. There is no way of achieving a victory under these conditions.
The Israeli intelligence agency Mossad is known as a world class operation.
The number of Ukrainians ''press-ganged, conscripted, and thrown into a battle line with little or no training that are going to be killed is going to be horrific.
The ''western media'' is big on NATO training, UK training, blah, blah, blah.
The Russians are fighting their war their way, not the NATO way.
The numbers show it.
 

Cedar Lake

Connecticut Yankee
the
"draft".

it is total war.

what is the problem here?
''Total war has not engulfed Ukraine yet''.
I hope it doesn't.

The ''draft'' conscription is legal in Ukraine.
You have the right to do this in your country only. Only in Ukraine.
You do not have a legal right to ''draft'' in other countries.

Not now and not ever.

However, a gentle reminder as well, the UK and the rest of the NATO countries are a signatory to the UN convention on refugees, both 1951 and 1967.

I am not an expert on international law, but I believe that legally speaking, refugees cannot be “press ganged” to fight back in their homeland.

And there is the right of the refugee to have access to the courts.
Of course, that means the courts in the country that they presently reside in.
The country that the refugees fled for their safety no longer exists.
The laws have been changed and are not in favor of the Ukrainian citizen.
 

Knoxville's Joker

Has No Life - Lives on TB
''Total war has not engulfed Ukraine yet''.
I hope it doesn't.

The ''draft'' conscription is legal in Ukraine.
You have the right to do this in your country only. Only in Ukraine.
You do not have a legal right to ''draft'' in other countries.

Not now and not ever.

However, a gentle reminder as well, the UK and the rest of the NATO countries are a signatory to the UN convention on refugees, both 1951 and 1967.

I am not an expert on international law, but I believe that legally speaking, refugees cannot be “press ganged” to fight back in their homeland.

And there is the right of the refugee to have access to the courts.
Of course, that means the courts in the country that they presently reside in.
The country that the refugees fled for their safety no longer exists.
The laws have been changed and are not in favor of the Ukrainian citizen.
In the lead up to WW2 did not Brittain try something similar?

Germany did the same thing in the tail end of WW2.

This could be used to set precedents for once we get world war going fully hot to force the draft of folks regardless of location.
 

wait-n-see

Veteran Member

Oreally

Right from the start
These numbers almost exactly match those obtained by Colonel MacGregor from his contacts deep within the State Department / CIA. They are most likely very accurate.

They are also appalling, and clearly show that Ukraine has no possibility of winning this conflict. The numbers will become even more imbalanced, probably well over 10:1 loss ratio, as hastily "recruited" civilians enter the battle. There is no way of achieving a victory under these conditions.


these numbers are entirely fictitious.
 

Oreally

Right from the start
''Total war has not engulfed Ukraine yet''.
I hope it doesn't.

The ''draft'' conscription is legal in Ukraine.
You have the right to do this in your country only. Only in Ukraine.
You do not have a legal right to ''draft'' in other countries.

Not now and not ever.

However, a gentle reminder as well, the UK and the rest of the NATO countries are a signatory to the UN convention on refugees, both 1951 and 1967.

I am not an expert on international law, but I believe that legally speaking, refugees cannot be “press ganged” to fight back in their homeland.

And there is the right of the refugee to have access to the courts.
Of course, that means the courts in the country that they presently reside in.
The country that the refugees fled for their safety no longer exists.
The laws have been changed and are not in favor of the Ukrainian citizen.

as a practical matter, anyone asked to join and train and who refuses, is going to face losing their citizenship. if not every friend they had left back home.
 

jward

passin' thru
TurkishFacts4u
@TurkishFacts4U
5h

US has asked Ankara to sanction Russia.
@StateDept @POTUS perhaps you can lift all overt & covert sanctions on Turkiye before we entertain that idea?
If you want us to stop trading with Russia you will need to trade with us. I would have thought this is self explanatory.
 

jward

passin' thru

Russia’s latest cruise missile crashed in Ukraine​


By Dylan Malyasov​




A new, secret version of a Russian cruise missile was founded in the Ukrainian central Vinnytsia region after a new wave of Russian missile strikes pounded cities throughout the country.
According to the Defense Express, the Ukrainian Air Force has released footage showing relatively intact remains of a Russian Kh-101 cruise missile which was equipped with an electro-optical guidance system and decoy flare.
The Kh-101 is an advanced cruise missile under development to eventually replace the Kh-55 missile onboard the Soviet/Russian strategic bombers such as Tu-160 and Tu-95. The Kh-101 has a 400-kg conventional warhead, stealth features, high subsonic speed and low altitude flight profile. The conventionally-armed Kh-101 has also been referred to as the Russian counterpart to the United States Air Force AGM-129 air-launched cruise missile.
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The previously unknown version of a cruise missile is equipped with guidance systems scan to help determine a missile’s position. It is a digital system designed to guide missiles in real-time by using camera inputs to determine location.
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The guidance system can visually identify targets instead of simply attacking estimated coordinates. It reportedly performs a correlation between a stored image and a snapshot of the terrain beneath the missile to generate a position fix.
Another view of the Kh-101 missile shows a section with airborne countermeasures dispenser system that defeats infrared and radio frequency missiles. When the aircraft’s sensors detect a threat, the countermeasure dispenser system automatically launches radiofrequency and infrared countermeasures at the optimum time to defeat incoming missiles.
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Defense Express also stated that an X-ray of the dispenser system itself was made, which confirms that this is precisely the filling of this module.
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“At the same time, the logic of using such modules with heat traps (countermeasure system) remains unclear. Since in order to detect the launch of missiles with infrared homing heads, it is necessary to install a massive system with surveillance cameras. Without this system, shooting heat traps in automatic mode is impossible,” the report says.
The advanced self-protection kit of Russian cruise missiles is essential for airborne missions in today’s demanding and complex mission environments.

Massive missile strikes on Ukraine have still not achieved the goals declared by Moscow, and Russian engineers are trying to improve the effectiveness of their missiles and increase the chance of mission success during the subsequent shelling.

Dylan Malyasov
Defense journalist and commentator. Aviation photographer. Dylan leads Defence Blog's coverage of global military news, focusing on engineering and technology across the U.S. defense industry.
 

Oreally

Right from the start
That's an interesting assertion. Please give us a more accurate accounting. I'll dismiss any numbers provided by Ukraine OR Russia as entirely untrue. Remember to provide your source.
what the f is yours? some supposedly anonymous contact of notGenl MacGregor ?

my source is me. and i see lots of soldiers in my city. taking leave, seeing girlfriends. walking about normally, not distressed. in fairly big numbers. i do not see fantastic numbers of grieving people, or funerals at churches here . .

this simply could not be the case if these laughably fictitious numbers provided by this kgb asset were real.

distance of this asshole from Ukraine, 5000 miles.

distance of me from ukraine, 0 miles.
 
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CaryC

Has No Life - Lives on TB
The number of Ukrainians ''press-ganged, conscripted, and thrown into a battle line with little or no training that are going to be killed is going to be horrific.
The ''western media'' is big on NATO training, UK training, blah, blah, blah.
The Russians are fighting their war their way, not the NATO way.
IMHO you have to take "training" with a grain of salt.

It is probably possible to "train" someone to operate and fire a tank in a couple of days. And all you have is someone who can operate and fire a tank.

We have tons of people who drive cars, and have taken drivers ed in school, and it took a whole semester to do it, but don't know driving from a hole in the head, and see them every time I get out. They don't have a clue that cars can kill people.

I borrowed my uncle's backhoe one time, never been on one. Dug out several stumps, and a septic tank ditch for the septic line, with a 2 inch drop all along the line. Without any "training". But I couldn't get a job operating a backhoe.

Training people to operate and fire a tank is something that will get you killed. The crew of a tank needs to be honed in their operation of the tank and fired, in approaching another tank, within a group of tanks, and they all working together, inside and with others. And that takes time. Not training to operate and fire a tank, and be thrown in the front lines. All that will be is tank fodder.

I don't think there are any Russians who are quaking in their boots over Ukraine being trained to operate and fire a tank.
 
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