Toosh
Veteran Member
I'm in KY, too!
PREP row row row yer?
- Thread starter fi103r
- Start date
homecanner1
Veteran Member
The rivers to Native Americans were the interstate highway system with some portage on foot between, canoe upside down on warrior heads. The beauty of it all is this is a pretty big country from Seattle to Miami, Maine to San Diego and so there's river enough for everyone to find their own plot to homestead!
South Louisiana, can't find better food if you have a boat.
Grew up with more shrimp, oysters, crabs and fish than most people ever get to eat.
I remember an aunt visiting, we went out to try and catch some redfish and flounder. Drug the shrimp trawl for half an hour to get some fresh bait. We got some noice shrimp, 16-20 count. She was having a cow that we were using large shrimp for bait.
Shrimp and crab stuffed flounder seemed to calm her down...well, that and adult beverages.
Grew up with more shrimp, oysters, crabs and fish than most people ever get to eat.
I remember an aunt visiting, we went out to try and catch some redfish and flounder. Drug the shrimp trawl for half an hour to get some fresh bait. We got some noice shrimp, 16-20 count. She was having a cow that we were using large shrimp for bait.
Shrimp and crab stuffed flounder seemed to calm her down...well, that and adult beverages.
Toosh
Veteran Member
3 things to keep in mind- 1) rapids - some of that water runs fast, especially in the spring. 2) Locks - not all water is at the same elevation and not all locks allow small personal craft such as a john-boat. 3) Navigable waterways can be treacherous with long cables attaching barges (that you can't see very well during the day and not at all at night unless you know how to read nav-lights on a vessel.)
But your observation is worthwhile and I totally agree.
Look for a waterway navigation map to show possible problem areas. Electronic charts are the cat's meow but if we're talking SHTF then go with paper charts available from USCG. Order online.
But your observation is worthwhile and I totally agree.
Look for a waterway navigation map to show possible problem areas. Electronic charts are the cat's meow but if we're talking SHTF then go with paper charts available from USCG. Order online.
And I was born there. Western KY on the border with TN. Spent many a weekend at Kentucky Lake and Land Between the Lakes.
Hard to beat a sunrise like this, while you're finishing coffee and contemplating an early brunch of ceviche and beer.
Nothing like a little snapper to make said ceviche with.
Then go to some gritty little beach bar and try to foul-hook a mullet...once the fish are in the fridge.
Nothing like a little snapper to make said ceviche with.
Then go to some gritty little beach bar and try to foul-hook a mullet...once the fish are in the fridge.
Last edited:
cat killer
Senior Member
I live about half way between the Mississippi and Illinois rivers.
I haven't been on either one of them in a boat or any body of water for at least 70 years and don't plan on it in the future, so guess I'll have to bug in.
I haven't been on either one of them in a boat or any body of water for at least 70 years and don't plan on it in the future, so guess I'll have to bug in.
ainitfunny
Saved, to glorify God.
Can I ask a stupid question?
Can you use a wide, 5+ foot long cargo sled for a small boat in calm water?
Can you use a wide, 5+ foot long cargo sled for a small boat in calm water?
momma_soapmaker
Disgusted
They don't call Arkansas "the Natural State" for nothing. We're blessed with abundant waterways, forests, and wildlife.
Imrik
Veteran Member
My home turf!!!
Haha. Yep kinda the same for us when we lived in Alaska. MIL visited and was appalled that we fed our sled dogs good salmon and called pink salmon dog food.South Louisiana, can't find better food if you have a boat.
Grew up with more shrimp, oysters, crabs and fish than most people ever get to eat.
I remember an aunt visiting, we went out to try and catch some redfish and flounder. Drug the shrimp trawl for half an hour to get some fresh bait. We got some noice shrimp, 16-20 count. She was having a cow that we were using large shrimp for bait.
Shrimp and crab stuffed flounder seemed to calm her down...well, that and adult beverages.
Yup. Term from the early French Voyageurs - small but mighty fur traders. Both a noun and a verb.
You DO learn to pack lite....
Last edited:
as long as it is water tight and the water is calm
crossbowboy
Certifiable
Yeah. You need some water for that...
(RT 20 seconds)
bracketquant
Veteran Member
And, just how do trade goods get TO the boat? And, just how do trade goods get from the boat TO the consumer?
A SHTF scenario is when the SHTF and just sticks, or gravity makes it fall off. Most believe it will be blown back because of the fan blades working. They won't.
In a true SHTF situation, there will be no electricity, no fuel, no medicine, no cops, etc... That's what it will bring. Anything other than those conditions is not a SHTF situation. A less severe situation requires a different term.
Like any skill, you have to do it to be proficient.
People who spend time on the water will know how to deal with problems, know the area and the people around.
Those who think they can just find a boat and take off to plan B...they will have a big surprise.
It probably won't be pleasant.
People who spend time on the water will know how to deal with problems, know the area and the people around.
Those who think they can just find a boat and take off to plan B...they will have a big surprise.
It probably won't be pleasant.
Meemur
Voice on the Prairie / FJB!
No. It won't float well with a load. Go buy a cheap kid's kayak (under $99) at Walmart if you want to haul cargo in water. The adult ones don't cost much more. Get a sit on top one if you are going to use it in perfectly calm water.
Meemur
Voice on the Prairie / FJB!
Plus it's a good way to pass a summer day and really learn the hidy holes in an area.
Sounds a lot like the old west during the trapper era. Men were men, and they were hard men.
Bandits and hostile natives everywhere, precious fur to be moved downriver….gold coins to be made, bullets, powder and rashers of bacon to buy.
I’ll be the guy with bacon, flour and other crops on the river, a very useful guy who’ll be worth a tribes protection - much morso than a man in a bunker…I can be a mean sob with certain skills of my own don’t get me wrong, but I prefer to not be a lone target ripe for the picking (from afar) when out doing my chores.
So long as we aren’t nuked that is, then I’ll prolly be hidin lol
You sound like someone who’s used a canoe or kayak to deer hunt an otherwise inaccessible land
Wildweasel
F-4 Phantoms Phorever
I wouldn't take a boat out until the Dying Times after TEOTWAWKI had passed. Probably at least a full year afterwards of the event. Maybe two winters passed so all those bodies would be processed by nature.
And most of the people who would shoot at passing boats would be among the ones who would be claimed by the Dying Times.
day late
money? whats that?
Maybe not as safe as you think. Tie a rope across the river. Boats get hung up and have zero maneuverability. They then become sitting ducks for every sniper on the banks.
"safe" is relative to the new era.
Been a boater my whole life. We currently keep a 34’ cabin cruiser 30 minutes away in a slip on the Chesapeake with 2 kayaks onboard. This would be a possible BOL depending on circumstance HOWEVER we will be bugging in unless our AO is completely compromised.
Now here in the backyard, we keep a 14’ big Jon rigged for bass fishing, and a couple more kayaks for fun, or in case of flooding.
Now here in the backyard, we keep a 14’ big Jon rigged for bass fishing, and a couple more kayaks for fun, or in case of flooding.
ainitfunny
Saved, to glorify God.
I was thinking you could tie 3 10 lb weight lifting
Weights ( or rocks or log) on 3 ropes fastened from edge to edge under the sled at the. back, middle, and front of the sled to give it a kind of keel to stabilize tthe load..
You could still pull it , but probably not paddle it.
Weights ( or rocks or log) on 3 ropes fastened from edge to edge under the sled at the. back, middle, and front of the sled to give it a kind of keel to stabilize tthe load..
You could still pull it , but probably not paddle it.
Last edited:
bracketquant
Veteran Member
I doubt if you know the best hidy holes in your area, if you've got swamp.
Too shallow for any boat, and too wet and mucky to explore on foot, other than by idiots such as myself. The best ones have impossible to climb cliffs and rocky outcroppings right next to the swamps. Even with thousands of years of native peoples living in this area, I believe that I've most likely set foot in a few places where no one else has ever walked.
And, one doesn't want to do the exploring on a summer day. There are too many biting insects, besides the bushes and trees having leafed out. Late April to early May, here, is when it's getting warmer, bushes and trees are still mostly barren, leaving the rugged landscape to be at its most observable state.