CORONA Ron Paul: Resistance Building To Coronavirus 'House Arrest' Orders... "It's About Time!"

[Blacknarwhal]

I don't find myself agreeing with Ron Paul a lot--anyone else remember "It's Happening!"?--but this one is gold.

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Ron Paul: Resistance Building To Coronavirus 'House Arrest' Orders... "It's About Time!"

Authored by Mac Slavo via SHTFplan.com,

Americans have suffered under the boot of tyranny long enough.



Resistance to the house arrest orders and pushback against the bans from making a living are finally surfacing in large numbers. Have people finally realized they are not slaves to be controlled by a few power-hungry politicians?



Across the country, from political leaders to small business owners, to parents who just want to take their children to the park, resistance is growing to the authoritarians who have effectively suspended the Constitution and placed most of the country under house arrest.

Lawsuits are also challenging unlawful “stay at home” orders. What if all the hysteria-driven orders have actually made the virus outbreak even worse? More scientists are coming forward to argue for the “Sweden model” of moderation rather than lockdown.

In Dr. Ron Paul’s latest Liberty report, he says this frustration is positive.






As Americans begin to lose patience with their enslavement and the tyranny of almost every governor in this country, the government should see themselves as on borrowed time. “Fauci is losing credibility,” says Dr. paul. Give the people back their natural right to freedom of speech, peaceful assembly, and the ability to make a living.




Dr. Paul says there’s a group of people in Idaho that are on the right side of human rights and the Constitution vocally standing up to the authoritarians who attempted to enslave the entire public.



Paul and Daniel McAdams discussed the psychological impact of fear this has had on the general public. The fear has led to people accepting their chains, yet that’s beginning to change. If governors and the federal government do no want to go down in history in the same manner as other tyrants, they would do well to give people back their rights and to never attempt this type of enslavement again.

Life in and of itself is a risk, and personally, I’m not interested in facing tyranny for any reason, but let alone because of a pandemic. One of those we can stand against as they have done in Idaho, and the other we can take voluntary individual actions to lessen its impact without destroying our neighbors’ lives in the process.

 

[ArisenCarcass]

On the opposite side, I agree at least to some degree with many of Ron Paul's previous positions from when he ran for the GOP nomination with a Libertarian platform. His 11-point plan including: Audit the Fed, Debt Reduction, Immigration Moratorium, Increasing Freedom (Pro-2A, School Choice, Decriminalizing MJ) , etc. All resonate with me.
That said, I think that Dr. Paul is jumping the gun on the "anti-tyranny" revolution.

I personally advocate a wait and see policy.
Deaths are increasing day over day despite lockdowns.
If it comes to it, I will face incoming fire again, in service to liberty, my children and the Constitutional ideals of my forefathers.
But I don't think that we are at that point. Yet.




Dr. Paul' scampaign website is down. Here is a Huffpo article detailing the 11-point plan:

Dr. Ron Paul's 11-Point Plan That Could Save America

Have Americans read Dr. Ron Paul's written plan for the country? Are Americans ready to upset the apple cart in a controlled and methodical way for the ...

www.huffpost.com

 

[Millwright]

The official time budget for travel restrictions was through May.

I suspect they will stick to that.

If there weren't so many dumbasses in this country, (as evidenced by Ds in power) we would not have needed near this response.

Look at where the overreaction is and where the worst concentration of cases are.

 

[Blacknarwhal]

The official time budget for travel restrictions was through May.

I suspect they will stick to that.

If there weren't so many dumbasses in this country, (as evidenced by Ds in power) we would not have needed near this response.

Look at where the overreaction is and where the worst concentration of cases are.

THROUGH May? I thought it was TO May. The next 30 Days to Slow the Spread runs out April 30.

 

[33dInd]

Yeah. The Norman mayor Bree Clark has even issued a odd even shopping day for groceries and pharmacies only
With a 700 dollar fine
Guthrie is stay at home and must wear mask and gloves to go shopping or face 500 dollar fine

Several other towns in Oklahoma have also issued stay home orders with 700 dollar fine

now the significant issue on the fines. Oklahoma law states a municipal action or fine must allow for jury trial if the fine is more than 750 dollars

 

[Blacknarwhal]

On the opposite side, I agree at least to some degree with many of Ron Paul's previous positions from when he ran for the GOP nomination with a Libertarian platform. His 11-point plan including: Audit the Fed, Debt Reduction, Immigration Moratorium, Increasing Freedom (Pro-2A, School Choice, Decriminalizing MJ) , etc. All resonate with me.
That said, I think that Dr. Paul is jumping the gun on the "anti-tyranny" revolution.

I personally advocate a wait and see policy.
Deaths are increasing day over day despite lockdowns.
If it comes to it, I will face incoming fire again, in service to liberty, my children and the Constitutional ideals of my forefathers.
But I don't think that we are at that point. Yet.




Dr. Paul' scampaign website is down. Here is a Huffpo article detailing the 11-point plan:

Dr. Ron Paul's 11-Point Plan That Could Save America

Have Americans read Dr. Ron Paul's written plan for the country? Are Americans ready to upset the apple cart in a controlled and methodical way for the ...

www.huffpost.com

And 16 million people have lost their jobs. Many of which are never to return.

Several articles posted in the last few days prove we have been lied to about death counts and a host of other points. I won't link them; you've undoubtedly seen them.

The lockdown will kill orders of magnitude more people than COVID-19 would.

 

[etc]

And 16 million people have lost their jobs. Many of which are never to return.

Several articles posted in the last few days prove we have been lied to about death counts and a host of other points. I won't link them; you've undoubtedly seen them.

The lockdown will kill orders of magnitude more people than COVID-19 would.

You hit the nail directly on the head. As usual, the cure is worse than the disease.

The irony is the covid-19 won't be stopped even at the expense of the shut down economy. It's merely slowed down.

 

[ArisenCarcass]

The official time budget for travel restrictions was through May.

I suspect they will stick to that.

If there weren't so many dumbasses in this country, (as evidenced by Ds in power) we would not have needed near this response.

Look at where the overreaction is and where the worst concentration of cases are.

I agree.
The D's should never be allowed to have the levers of power (though most establishment R's aren't much better).
We need secure borders and the will and ability to shut international travel down on a whim.
I can almost guarantee that another virus will be released at some point.
I'm sure the Jihadis are licking their lips in anticipation at the chaos they can cause (though hopefully Iran will temper their idiocy......fat chance).

And 16 million people have lost their jobs. Many of which are never to return.

Several articles posted in the last few days prove we have been lied to about death counts and a host of other points. I won't link them; you've undoubtedly seen them.

The lockdown will kill orders of magnitude more people than COVID-19 would.

That is opinion.
Fact: the Chinks lied about their death toll, virulence, and the affected populations.
Fact: The US has the food, farms, and stores to keep everyone fed for quite some time.

As I have pointed out in other threads, the death counts don't seem that liberal to me (I think it more likely that they are under-counting).
The lockdowns seem to be keeping the death rate manageable in most places.

If people don't lose their heads, if people stay fed, and have some level of modernity (electricity and water keep flowing), I think that everything may work out in the end.
Though it is odd to say (because on the whole I don't really like government), but government may be the way out of this. Just abolishing the Federal Reserve would remove most US debt (due to debt-based fiat currency), allowing the treasury to bail out the American citizens.

I fear that the idiots on the fringe are pulling more and more scared people (whether they'd like to admit it or not) into the "Muh Liberty" big igloo black helicopter tinfoil mindset.

You hit the nail directly on the head. As usual, the cure is worse than the disease.

The irony is the covid-19 won't be stopped even at the expense of the shut down economy. It's merely slowed down.

The point of the slow down was to prevent the tidal wave that would swamp the healthcare system.
ANYONE who needs major treatment for any reason after that point is likely to die.
Now that we know that the ventilator doesn't really help more than 1/3 of patients, and presents a major health hazard to the aging medical staffs, there is a conversation to be had about stopping intubation on COVID-19 patients.

The problem I have with "opening up the economy" is that the current, lower-track of kung flu cases and deaths we have could easily rise uncontrollably, devastating our ability to recover.
Lives will be lost over profits and money.
We can create a new economic system if need be, but you cannot do that without a people.

 

[Blacknarwhal]

That is opinion.

Oh? Is it?

If it is, it's informed.

CORONA - More People Died Of Suicide Last Week In Tennessee Than COVID-19

Whoopsie doodle...who would have thought that making people prisoners in their own homes for an extended period of unknown duration could make people snap? Fair use cited so on and so forth. https://www.zerohedge.com/health/more-people-died-suicide-last-week-tennessee-covid-19 More People...

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[EMICT]

Catch 22

If China lied about the death toll (not sure why I used the word 'if') then this pandemic has the potential to be far worse than we are seeing here in the US. If China told the truth about their numbers, then the US government and States overreacted.

If mitigation was started here in the US sooner, would our numbers be less than they are now? Is mitigation, liberty robbing as it is, making a difference in the death toll or were China's reported numbers accurate?

Verification. due to non exponential numbers of dead, leads credence to those who say this is no worse than a bad flu season, but is this due to mitigation or is this just a reflection of the numbers reported by China.

We can't have it both ways. If China lied and the numbers of dead there are exponentially higher than what they are reporting, then this pandemic is not 'just a bad flu season'; and mitigation (as painful as it is right now) just might be the thing that is keeping our numbers far less than what China's true numbers were in round one.

I am not smart enough to have the answer, nor do I think our politicians are smart enough to have the answer either. Sometimes you roll the dice with the 'best guess' as to what the appropriate short term action is to save lives. You either get it right and we end up with a 'bad flu season' or you get it wrong and we end up with China's real numbers. Either way, when this is over, we will either have a Phoenix event or be tossed into the dustpan of history.

I'm pulling for a Phoenix event.

 

[ArisenCarcass]

Oh? Is it?

If it is, it's informed.

CORONA - More People Died Of Suicide Last Week In Tennessee Than COVID-19

Whoopsie doodle...who would have thought that making people prisoners in their own homes for an extended period of unknown duration could make people snap? Fair use cited so on and so forth. https://www.zerohedge.com/health/more-people-died-suicide-last-week-tennessee-covid-19 More People...

www.timebomb2000.com

So, because in ONE cherry picked COUNTY (Knox) in one state out of 50 there were more suicides than coronavirus deaths (and I'm being generous, taking a mayor's word for it, without any cited stats or hard data) that means.....what exactly?

That was at best an uninformative biased piece of "news" and at worst an idiotic hit piece to rile up the plebes.
The obviously click-bait title (it is from SHTFPlan.....so the usu) even misrepresented the body of the "article."
We make fun of CNN for such drivel.
Please do better.

 

[marsh]