Oh...OK. You're going there.Why is a program that you spent your entire working life "contributing to" called an entitlement?
Only if they are honestly paid, i.e. above the table, etc. Too many of these will take cash-only jobs, or not engage in mainstream employment in any form. In that regard they will further drain public resources.This will get "nasty".
One tangent, while I despise illegal-immigration (and most of the "refugee" immigration), it can arguably be said that adding younger workers helps somewhat with the entitlements insolvency issue.
It also originated from Yahoo News, which is mainstream liberal.This is a hit piece. Headline makes it sound like current recipients are going to be cut. Not.
There have always been a few tweaks that would make those programs solvent - adjust full retirement age (again), raise contributions across the board, and adjust/eliminate cap on high earner contributions - but the politicians have no guts to do it. Neither party.
this will cost republicans a lot of seats in 2024
Until about 10-15 years ago, you COULD opt out. There was a form you could fill out removing yourself from the SS benefit program. However, that was everything SS related including disability. Once the form was sent in and approved, your employer could stop withholding for all SS taxes.Cuz I don't recall ever getting a choice whether to contribute or not.
And they STILL make it sound like the Repubs were wanting to cut current recipients.Since I started this mess....
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Kevin McCarthy reportedly agrees to leave cuts to Social Security and Medicare off the table in debt ceiling negotiations
path forward that would avoid harming Americans.
This was his announced direction back at the "Speaker of the House" debacle.Kevin McCarthy reportedly agrees to leave cuts to Social Security and Medicare off the table in debt ceiling negotiations
It should go on the backs of the businesses to give them all that. BUT, they don't want to pay it and they would rather citizens pay for their mansions and cars than themselves. Make them pay all that and see how fast they ditch illegals.I would rather see them cut off illegal aliens from getting for roof over their head, free food and free health care and all of coming from our SS system. They are not citizens and being here illegally they not entitled to anything but a quick deportation.
It should go on the backs of the businesses to give them all that. BUT, they don't want to pay it and they would rather citizens pay for their mansions and cars than themselves. Make them pay all that and see how fast they ditch illegals.
Don't forget you have a MEEDIA which is quick to throw agricultural amendment on any Republican.
It is ALWAYS the Democratic hue and cry that Republicans are going to CUT BENEFITS.
And frequently they do - but NOT to Medicare and SS. These would be a "third rail" sort of proposal - Repubs don't go there under the possibility of "pissing off their base." Third rail (politics) - Wikipedia
But Democrats claim otherwise - and the MEEDIA backs them up - ALWAYS.
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Well I’m shooting for 2 mores years 65 ( and Medicare kicks in). They changed that when I was a young man pushing full retirement out further. It didn’t benefit me."Republicans don’t plan to alter benefits for current Social Security and Medicare recipients, according to Rep. Chip Roy (R-Texas)." So, they'll screw over the ones who are getting close. THIS is why I will take SS at 62 and not wait.
Exactly because you feel “entitled” to it. Am I wrong?Why is a program that you spent your entire working life "contributing to" called an entitlement?
How? Any idea what illegals get for housing, food, spending money, medical benefits, etc? And if they are working under the table with no Social Security number, they pay no taxes into the system. btw- I am not arguing the system is good. It is corrupt and stupid as hell.This will get "nasty".
One tangent, while I despise illegal-immigration (and most of the "refugee" immigration), it can arguably be said that adding younger workers helps somewhat with the entitlements insolvency issue.
LOL... the word game in this evil modern age has reversed meanings.Exactly because you feel “entitled” to it. Am I wrong?
More to come later, after my second cup of coffee.
- NO FOREIGN AID until we get our own people taken care of....AMERICAN FIRST!!
- Require a BALANCED BUDGET, no more borrowing!!
- NO Stupid Pork programs and dumbarse studies. I don't give a rats arse about the sex habits of the South American Swamp Rat or any other rat for that matter.
- Single subject laws.....i.e. outlaw all riders on bills and require them to be in common language and limit the length of pages they can submit. None of this 1,000 plus page B.S.
- REQUIRE all states to abide by the CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES with no exceptions....i.e. "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED"!! If the Federal Government is limited then so are the states. A perfect example is the 2nd Amendment.
- FLAT TAX for EVERYONE, and no work around, exclusions or exemptions for corporations. Foreign corporations pay 10% higher. Just to keep American corps from playing games and leaving the country.
- Get rid of all worthless bureaucratic tax wasters...like the: IRS, ATF, DOEd, and the multitude of other worthless organizations riding on the backs of taxpayers.
- Forbid "insider trading" to all government officials....ESPECIALLY members and staff of congress!
- Term limits on all elected and appointed positions in the government.
- Border security, build the damn wall and defend it.
- Link Congress' salaries to the GDP......they don't get paid if the GDP is negative.
- REALISTIC social security and Medicare for retirees. Something you can actually survive on. You don't work....you don't get paid - period!
- Certification/qualification tests for all politicians. We can't afford any more STUPID people in congress, i.e. bar maids, etc.
- All politicians MUST PASS a FULL background investigation security clearance and maintain that clearance while serving.
- Any violation of an oath of office is subject to immediate termination, legal action and is required to payback all salaries, etc., earned while in office.
- There are 193 member states in the United Nations....thus the US should only provide 1/193% of the funding to keep it running. NOT THE 20% WE NOW PROVIDE. Let everyone pay their fair share.
i just turned 62 on sunday."Republicans don’t plan to alter benefits for current Social Security and Medicare recipients, according to Rep. Chip Roy (R-Texas)." So, they'll screw over the ones who are getting close. THIS is why I will take SS at 62 and not wait.
i just turned 62 on sunday.
you can not get SS at 62 years of age.gotta wait till 65.
Like a RINO who suddenly found "Classified Documents" - and fault was (of course) "Easy to do and difficult to avoid."Well it was a RINO who brought this up. Soc Sec ”fixes”
Yes I do, Kris. I just keep forgetting that if my betters say they need it more than I do, who am I to argue?Exactly because you feel “entitled” to it. Am I wrong?
Since I started this mess....
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Kevin McCarthy reportedly agrees to leave cuts to Social Security and Medicare off the table in debt ceiling negotiations
Story by asheffey@businessinsider.com (Ayelet Sheffey,Juliana Kaplan)
On Wednesday, West Virginia Sen. Joe Manchin told reporters that Speaker of the House Kevin McCarthy has agreed to leave cuts to Medicare and Social Security off the table in debt ceiling negotiations.
- Kevin McCarthy agreed not to cut Social Security and Medicare in debt ceiling negotiations, Sen. Joe Manchin told reporters.
- Previously, cuts to those programs were on the table as the GOP negotiated terms to raise the debt limit.
- Manchin, and even former President Trump, urged the GOP to leave those programs alone.
This came after the two lawmakers met earlier today on raising the debt limit — an issue Democratic and Republican lawmakers have been clashing over recently as they negotiate how to keep the US on top of paying its bills.
A source familiar said that the meeting between Manchin and McCarthy was good, albeit with no commitments; Manchin encouraged McCarthy to negotiate and try a find path forward that would avoid harming Americans.
The US officially reached the debt limit last week, and President Joe Biden's administration has urged House Republicans to work in a bipartisan way to keep the country from defaulting on its obligations and potentially triggering a global financial crisis and recession. But Republicans have expressed their intent to use raising the debt limit as a bargaining chip to achieve their own priorities, and previous reports indicated they were considering cutting Medicare and Social Security benefits.
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