ECON Report food and grocery price increases/shortages here - UPDATE, new runs on the stores

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Meemur

Voice on the Prairie / FJB!
Now I’m curious; I may get one the next time I’m out just to try it.
I recall seeing that can in the stores when I lived in Panama. It was what everyone used in their coffee.

Me, too. I've been using canned milk for my coffee and tea, since I only use a little at a time right now.
 

SmithJ

Veteran Member
I've been doing research, the Jackery charges quickly and in low light conditions no less!

A jackery 500 needs 12-14 hours of full sunlight to recharge with a 100 watt panel under optimum condition. Realistically, static behind a window (losing 60-70% efficiency) inside you’re gonna need days to recharge that thing like you are talking about if you use 100 watt panel. YMMV, I’m just trying to help.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
A jackery 500 needs 12-14 hours of full sunlight to recharge with a 100 watt panel under optimum condition. Realistically, static behind a window (losing 60-70% efficiency) inside you’re gonna need days to recharge that thing like you are talking about if you use 100 watt panel. YMMV, I’m just trying to help.

Isn't this why most people buy four solar panels for that particular unit, which is what I've seen recommended.
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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Googled it...

Media crema is half-and-half or light cream that comes in a can or box. It doesn’t need to be refrigerated until you open it. Keep some in your pantry and you’ll always have cream on hand to add a touch of richness to any dish that calls for milk.

You’ll find media crema in the Latin foods aisle of most grocery stores, or in a Mexican grocery. Of course, in Latin America, you’ll find it in just about every grocery store everywhere — even in fishing villages. Table cream is similar although not quite as rich. Media crema is not the same thing as evaporated milk or sweetened condensed milk

Summerthyme
 

SmithJ

Veteran Member
Isn't this why most people buy four solar panels for that particular unit, which is what I've seen recommended.

Honestly, I know a half dozen people with them, and none recharge them with solar. They all use them as camping batteries and recharge from power outlets. I admit, I don’t have one. I’ve got a Honda inverter generator.

if you can afford 400 watts of solar panels, and you have a place that you can set them up to charge then maybe it’ll work for you. But I just didn’t want you to invest in it, thinking 100 watts of solar behind a window would sustain it.
 

SmithJ

Veteran Member
I don't know anyone who recharges them with solar power, either, or I'd ask for comments.

Yeah, I don’t mean to talk bad about them. The people I know that have them, like them. They seem well made and I intend to get one eventually. But I’ll recharge it at home from a power outlet and just use it for a short term battery.
 

nomifyle

TB Fanatic
Googled it...



Summerthyme
Dang, I looked it up on walmart and its made by nestle and I avoid anything nestle like it was a rattle snake. Incedious company. I'm wrong there is another brand, good.

Although I stopped putting milk or cream in my coffee when I moved 10 years ago, everyone around here thinks cream is the powdered white death stuff.

God is good, all the time

Judy
 

Cyclonemom

Veteran Member
WalMart does have the Media Crema in the Hispanic aisle next to the la leche style milks. ( ODS has karate in a building right next to Wal-Mart, and he had class tonight, so I swung by to see if I could find any.)

It does seem to be higher fat than evaporated milk. When comparing it to a carton of heavy whipping cream, it has slightly lower fat content.

Heavy whipping cream has 5g/1 TBSP
Media Crema has 4g/1 TBSP

It is made in Mexico, and the expiration date is about 14 months out. 7.6 oz can with a pop top lid. Cost was $1.48.

I am really curious as to what it tastes like, and if it has that slightly "cooked" flavor that evaporated milk has. Will have to come up with a reason to open it up and use it this week!
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Honestly, I know a half dozen people with them, and none recharge them with solar. They all use them as camping batteries and recharge from power outlets. I admit, I don’t have one. I’ve got a Honda inverter generator.

if you can afford 400 watts of solar panels, and you have a place that you can set them up to charge then maybe it’ll work for you. But I just didn’t want you to invest in it, thinking 100 watts of solar behind a window would sustain it.

I know a couple of people that recharge them with the panels and zero problems.
 

energy_wave

Has No Life - Lives on TB
My local Shurfine had 5 lb bags of boneless skinless chicken breast for $7.95 which is $1.59 a lb. Ground beef is still around a dollar a lb cheaper now then before the pandemic started. Corn came down to .50 cents an ear. Pork is still a little high though. No shortages in my area.

I forgot to add, I scored a couple lbs of cherrys marked down to .99 cents a lb. I should have bought $20.00 worth.
 
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thompson

Certa Bonum Certamen
Isn’t this just evaporated milk?? It’s got the Hispanic name, otherwise the same stuff, yes?
No, it's kinda/sorta like evaporated milk I guess, but it's a LOT thicker, more on the order of creme fraiche. I've used it for many years, not often, but it's delicious when spooned over fresh berries, etc. Shelf stable for a long time but you do need to refrigerate it once you've opened the can.
 

psychgirl

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Indiana (north of Indy) Kroger was very well stocked yesterday except for the usual things ; toilet paper , cleaning supplies still look pretty low and still NO Chlorox wipes.

Pasta was picked over but I think that’s only because they’ve had 10/10 sales on a couple of the brand names.

Meat prices are still high but I *think * chicken was on sale.

Nothing really crazy to report.

I stopped at the local farmer stand to buy my tomatoes. I’ll go back later for other veggies....it was so stifling hot I didn’t want to stand there very long because I had bagged ice in the car ( broken ice maker)
 

greysage

On The Level
Placed what is likely my last order for a while with Instacart. No problems. Just haven't used the service much last couple months or so. Basically placed it because my $10 membership was set to renew in August, cancelled it, but I had a $3 credit to use.

So just ordered some stuff.
Happily everything I ordered was available. Even the Voortmans Vanilla Cream Wafers! Also got a 2# bag of Goya Jasmine rice and a #2 bag of Carolina Jasmine rice.

Anyway, the real reason I posted. Looking back over my regular items ordered over the last several months I noticed price increases on a lot of items, and a lot more still out of stock. Coffees, bread, sugar, eggs, cheese, hot dogs; all up over a dollar.

ETA: Example of an increase: Bought Death Wish Coffee once through them. Was $18.99, went to $21.59.
 
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ron341

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I went to the local Walmart in my area around 1:30 pm today. This was my first trip in the building in months. The first thing I noticed was that the store was packed and I am talking Christmas type crowd level. The fruit and vegetable section was down a good 70%. Can goods were down 80%. Bread area was 50%. Paper products were totally empty.

After fighting my way through the crowd I decided to cut my trip short. I just got a small portion of my list. The person that checked me out, told me that around 10:00 am the crowd level drastically increased. The checker said that most people were panic buying due to different rumors on the net. I asked about the rumors. The checker didn’t know, didn’t care. She was not a happy camper. This was due to missing lunch and management not opening another line.

Guess it’s back to ordering online.
 

Cyclonemom

Veteran Member
I went to the local Walmart in my area around 1:30 pm today. This was my first trip in the building in months. The first thing I noticed was that the store was packed and I am talking Christmas type crowd level. The fruit and vegetable section was down a good 70%. Can goods were down 80%. Bread area was 50%. Paper products were totally empty.

After fighting my way through the crowd I decided to cut my trip short. I just got a small portion of my list. The person that checked me out, told me that around 10:00 am the crowd level drastically increased. The checker said that most people were panic buying due to different rumors on the net. I asked about the rumors. The checker didn’t know, didn’t care. She was not a happy camper. This was due to missing lunch and management not opening another line.

Guess it’s back to ordering online.
What state, if you don't mind sharing?
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
I went to the local Walmart in my area around 1:30 pm today. This was my first trip in the building in months. The first thing I noticed was that the store was packed and I am talking Christmas type crowd level. The fruit and vegetable section was down a good 70%. Can goods were down 80%. Bread area was 50%. Paper products were totally empty.

After fighting my way through the crowd I decided to cut my trip short. I just got a small portion of my list. The person that checked me out, told me that around 10:00 am the crowd level drastically increased. The checker said that most people were panic buying due to different rumors on the net. I asked about the rumors. The checker didn’t know, didn’t care. She was not a happy camper. This was due to missing lunch and management not opening another line.

Guess it’s back to ordering online.

Plastic bottle and aluminum shortages are starting to be noticed. Expect more limits in the very near future.
 

Terrwyn

Veteran Member
This isn't a food shortage but fits in with how screwed up everything is. Bought a new leaf blower at HD and when we opened it there was no battery. Took it back this morning and they opened 7 of them and not one had a battery.
Finally gave us one off the shelf. No way is that a mistake. Must be those poor overworked Chinese having a laugh.
The boxes were sealed and not tampered with.
Tonight gave in and ordered spaghetti from a long time favorite. DH ordered a side order of Italian Sausage and they gave him those little pizza ones. And they forgot the salad. Everything is upside down and turned around. I give up.
No more meal deliveries. It's over. Life as we knew it is kaput.
 

psychgirl

Has No Life - Lives on TB
The person that checked me out, told me that around 10:00 am the crowd level drastically increased. The checker said that most people were panic buying due to different rumors on the net.

Glen Beck discussed the dam in China today. Don't know what time that was.
In central Indiana he’s on 9-12.... I heard that part of his show today talking about three gorges dam ready to fail =world catastrophe and food shortages when it happens.
He also talked about the aluminum problem with canned goods.
 

John Deere Girl

Veteran Member
Placed what is likely my last order for a while with Instacart. No problems. Just haven't used the service much last couple months or so. Basically placed it because my $10 membership was set to renew in August, cancelled it, but I had a $3 credit to use.

So just ordered some stuff.
Happily everything I ordered was available. Even the Voortmans Vanilla Cream Wafers! Also got a 2# bag of Goya Jasmine rice and a #2 bag of Carolina Jasmine rice.

Anyway, the real reason I posted. Looking back over my regular items ordered over the last several months I noticed price increases on a lot of items, and a lot more still out of stock. Coffees, bread, sugar, eggs, cheese, hot dogs; all up over a dollar.

ETA: Example of an increase: Bought Death Wish Coffee once through them. Was $18.99, went to $21.59.
You might check and see if Death Wish offers a subscription. We buy direct from Black Rifle Coffee, and we have a monthly subscription that saves us some money.
 

mzkitty

I give up.
Hmmm, everybody's worried about a dam in China? Sigh......... Florida -- Well, we went to our store today for a weekly shop. Meats were plentiful, if slightly more expensive. A lot of Smithfield stuff just sits there (China). Went down the canned veggie aisle and they were practically wiped out. That never happens. Son complained his favorite soda pop is no more due to the companies only doing the real popular flavors. So he bought Pepsi. He can drink it. I'm not much of a pop person. Produce was full and nice, a lot of it on sale, probably because there's more of it in the summer. Bakery was loaded up. Got a really delicious strawberry pie with flaky crust on sale for $3.99. I thought that was a real steal. Stuck it in the frig for a few hours. It was yummy. We'll probably go back for a quick trip tomorrow. Need more bananas (helps with son's leg cramps), and I have to see if they have gotten in any of the canned veggies. I'm low on them.
 

psychgirl

Has No Life - Lives on TB
The “Smithfield covid19 bacon” is still sitting there in piles at our Kroger, too.

They’ve had it on same for at least three months it seems like and no ones buying it lol.
 

Jerry

Senior Member
Know this is not about food / grocery, but feel the need to comment on the Jackery 500 and its price. Seems it is $500. For that amount one can get an 80-100 amp hour deep cycle flooded battery, a smaller sine wave inverter, and a solar panel with controller. you will have about double the power with the 80 amp battery. home depot carries a 100 watt panel for under $75. PWM charge controllers can be had from eBay for under $20. Costco has Grp 27 deep cycle batteries in the $100 range. 300 watt sine wave inverters are less than $100. Hope this helps.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
In central Indiana he’s on 9-12.... I heard that part of his show today talking about three gorges dam ready to fail =world catastrophe and food shortages when it happens.
He also talked about the aluminum problem with canned goods.

yeah, gotta admit that causes me to want to panic buy, but I won't for a variety of reasons, but still...
 
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packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Know this is not about food / grocery, but feel the need to comment on the Jackery 500 and its price. Seems it is $500. For that amount one can get an 80-100 amp hour deep cycle flooded battery, a smaller sine wave inverter, and a solar panel with controller. you will have about double the power with the 80 amp battery. home depot carries a 100 watt panel for under $75. PWM charge controllers can be had from eBay for under $20. Costco has Grp 27 deep cycle batteries in the $100 range. 300 watt sine wave inverters are less than $100. Hope this helps.

Yeah that's not going to happen and for a variety of reasons, of which I have no desire to elaborate. I know what why don't you buy me a whole house genset that runs off both natural gas and propane for a 1500 square foot house that's four stories... that's 1500 square feet per story... AND its 115 years old, though it is insulated to hell and back, yep it's four stories... and then we can talk!
 

Meemur

Voice on the Prairie / FJB!
yeah, gotta admit that causes me to panic buy, but I won't for a variety of reasons, but still...

For me, the main thing is to make sure my missing items are in the mail. I ordered several things yesterday.
My last project is getting a few more pairs of both heavy and light weight hiking socks. I like to see those in person so I can feel them and check for imperfections.

I just went through a period of wearing cheap shoes with cotton socks. False economy! I'm back to summer hiking boots and lightweight wool socks. My feet are thanking me.

I'm not worried about produce, summer Iowa veggies, pork, eggs, or corn. Those are in very good supply locally.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
For me, the main thing is to make sure my missing items are in the mail. I ordered several things yesterday.
My last project is getting a few more pairs of both heavy and light weight hiking socks. I like to see those in person so I can feel them and check for imperfections.

I just went through a period of wearing cheap shoes with cotton socks. False economy! I'm back to summer hiking boots and lightweight wool socks. My feet are thanking me.

I'm not worried about produce, summer Iowa veggies, pork, eggs, or corn. Those are in very good supply locally.

One of 5he things I learned long ago, and I’m talking thirty five years now is never ever skimp on socks. Sigh. To 5he point I learned how to knit my own. Talk about a learning curve.
 

Meemur

Voice on the Prairie / FJB!
One of 5he things I learned long ago, and I’m talking thirty five years now is never ever skimp on socks. Sigh. To 5he point I learned how to knit my own. Talk about a learning curve.

I'm learning how to crochet socks and can make passable slippers for housewear, but I don't mind spending some bucks for the right socks and bras (already purchased). Comfort is key to good morale during a crisis and I sure don't need blisters on my feet. I need to be able to walk as much as I can without pain.

My problem was that I was trying to use some things I had tossed into storage, cheaper shoes and cotton socks. They are now in the donation box, along with some other clothing that I should have left on the rack. I should never shop when I'm that tired.
 

Marseydoats

Veteran Member
I'm learning how to crochet socks and can make passable slippers for housewear, but I don't mind spending some bucks for the right socks and bras (already purchased). Comfort is key to good morale during a crisis and I sure don't need blisters on my feet. I need to be able to walk as much as I can without pain.

My problem was that I was trying to use some things I had tossed into storage, cheaper shoes and cotton socks. They are now in the donation box, along with some other clothing that I should have left on the rack. I should never shop when I'm that tired.

Save your socks that you don't like for extra bandages. I get poison sumac every year, there's no way around it. I make sleeves for my arms out of old tube socks. And I have livestock, so there is no such thing as "too many bandages"
 
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