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The Misfit Patriot
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I think it’s time to put together the firearms training event for any of my Jewish followers who want to learn to shoot and properly handle firearms. If you’re interested let me know in the comments.

We’ll organize a trip to San Antonio for a couple days, go through safety, drills, choosing the right weapon, etc. I can bring enough firearms for everyone and will provide ammo. In TX you just need a valid ID no matter what state you live in.

If someone wants to help organize, that would be helpful. I hate group chats but add me and we’ll set it up.
 

jward

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Israel Radar
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Israel is concerned by removal of several pro-Israel officials from key posts in Trump admin; Israeli sources say PM Netanyahu is alarmed by growing influence of isolationists hostile to Israel on President Trump. via @ynetalerts
 

jward

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sure hope this is more than just political posturing!

Insider Paper
@TheInsiderPaper
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JUST IN - Secretary of State Marco Rubio: "In light of yesterday’s horrific attack, all terrorists, their family members, and terrorist sympathizers here on a visa should know that under the Trump Administration we will find you, revoke your visa, and deport you."
 

CaryC

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US Rejects Any Uranium Enrichment By Iran, Trump Clarifies​

by Tyler Durden
Tuesday, Jun 03, 2025 - 08:45 AM
A lot of contradictory information and signaling has come out of Washington on the Iran nuclear issue of late. This is especially true already this week, amid reports in Axios and others that the White House is ready to allow the Iranians limited uranium nuclear enrichment.

"The nuclear deal proposal the U.S. gave Iran on Saturday would allow limited low-level uranium enrichment on Iranian soil for a to-be-determined period of time, Axios has learned, contradicting public statements from top officials," a Monday report said.

But it was only hours after that Trump seemed to issue a firm denial of the contents of the report. Here's what he issued on all caps later in the day Monday on Truth Social...

Possibly, the contradictory statements (between Trump, Rubio, and Witkoff) are a negotiating tactic. However, what's become clear is a softening of 'maximum pressure' while Iran nuclear talks proceed.

The Wall Street Journal reported Sunday that White House issued a directive last week telling federal agencies to halt the imposition of any new sanctions on Iran.

"The new policy went out to top officials at the National Security Council and Treasury Department, and then to the State Department," WSJ said. "Relevant officials working on the Middle East were looped in, but the directive had to spread much further. Iran sanctions intersect with U.S. policy toward China, where buyers take in more than 90% of Iran’s oil exports, as well as Japan, Europe, India and Southeast Asia."

Iran is still mulling a response to a US proposal for a deal which was delivered via Omani mediators. The basic framework is said to be Iran must abandon any all efforts for highly enriched uranium in return for sanctions relief. But the Iranians have also been demanding answers to the question of when and how these layers of sanctions will be removed by Washington.

Iran's Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Esmaeil Baqaei has meanwhile said according to Tasnim News Agency: "The proposal for a regional consortium for uranium enrichment is not a new idea... If some parties are proposing such a process, we welcome it and have no problem with participation either. But we emphasize that such an initiative cannot replace enrichment inside Iran."
Tehran is expected to reject taking enrichment down to zero, considering it sees as a matter of national sovereignty, but may agree to impose limits on enrichment and a monitoring regimen, which would in effect take things back to the original Obama-era JCPOA nucelar deal which Trump pulled out of in 2018.


Axios has been a never Trump outlet since 2016.
 

CaryC

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CNN Reports Fake News on Gaza, Again; Israel: No One Killed at Aid Sites​

2bdel Kareem Hana / Associated Press
Joel B. Pollak3 Jun 202515
3:31
CNN persisted Tuesday in publishing fake news pushed by Hamas, claiming that “dozens” of Palestinians had been killed near an American-run aid side in Gaza, despite Israeli denials and a history of Hamas lies.

Israeli government spokesman David Mencer told journalists: “The IDF did not fire at civilians in, or near, humanitarian aid distribution zones.”

The story came a day after U.S. Ambassador Mike Huckabee demanded that CNN and other outlets retract false reporting of dozens of Palestinians being killed at a Gaza Humanitarian Foundation (GHF) site Sunday.

CNN reported its story under the headline, “Dozens of Palestinians killed near Gaza aid distribution point, health officials say, in third day of shooting.” It cited the Gaza “health ministry” — without noting that the “ministry” is controlled entirely by Hamas and has a long record of false and sensational claims — and reported that “Israeli forces opened fire on Palestinians as they made their way to the distribution site in Tel al-Sultan in Rafah.”

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) reported that its forces had fired, half a kilometer away from the aid site, at a few people who had deviated from the route and had ignored warning shots.

The IDF added: “IDF troops are not preventing the arrival of Gazan civilians to the humanitarian aid distribution sites. The warning shots were fired approximately half a kilometer away from the humanitarian aid distribution site toward several suspects who advanced toward the troops in such a way that posed a threat to them.”

The CNN story cited only part of the IDF statement, leaving out the denial of the main claim. CNN also left out the GHF’s denials, and its report that aid had been delivered to civilians without incident.

“The incident marks the third day in a row that people have been killed on their way to the GHF distribution point,” CNN added, without noting that previous reports have been false.

The Trump administration is backing GHF as an alternative to aid distribution by the United Nations, which has been hijacked by Hamas, which steals aid and sells it to Palestinians, profiting while controlling them.

The GHF also supports Israel’s military effort to root out Hamas by allowing that effort to proceed while letting Palestinians continue to receive aid. Hence Hamas, the UN, and, apparently, the media want to stop it.

On Monday, the BBC — which also falsely reported Hamas’s claims Sunday — criticized reports about a video purporting to show the “killings” but then also, like CNN, persisted in publishing Hamas’s claims Tuesday.


Remember the "health ministry" claimed hundreds of people were killed at a hospital in Gaza. Also untrue. Remember your sources.
 

CaryC

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BBC Corrects Fake News About Gaza Aid Site — then Publishes Another​

3Abdel Kareem Hana / Associated Press
Joel B. Pollak3 Jun 202511
4:49
The BBC published criticism Monday of a false report claiming that Israeli soldiers had killed dozens of Palestinians in Gaza at an American aid site in Gaza on Sunday — then promptly published another.

As Breitbart News reported on Sunday, Hamas claimed — and the BBC, CNN, and others dutifully repeated — that Israeli solders fired at Palestinians from an aid site run by the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation (GHF).

Hamas and the United Nations (UN) are desperate to discredit the GHF, which has been providing aid, for free, outside of mechanisms controlled by Hamas terrorists, thereby undermining both Hamas and the UN.

The GHF and the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) denied that there had been any such incident, and on Monday U.S. Ambassador Mike Huckabee demanded that mainstream media outlets retract their false reporting.

The BBC then published an article Monday disputing claims that footage, originally published by Al Jazeera on social media, which showed bodies on the ground, was a depiction of killing at the GHF aid site.
It wrote:
We have geolocated the clip to a spot in Khan Younis about 4.5km (2.8 miles) from the nearest aid distribution point. The direction of shadows suggests it was filmed in the evening, not the morning, which doesn’t match accounts of the Rafah shootings.
While verifying the clip, a local journalist who filmed another video of the same scene confirmed to us that the events pictured are unrelated to any aid distribution site, and occurred yesterday evening after 19:00 local time (16:00 GMT).
Nevertheless, the BBC published a similar report on Tuesday, claiming at least 27 Palestinians had been shot “while waiting for aid,” and citing “Gaza authorities” — i.e. Hamas — without verifying the sensational claim.
The IDF disputed that report, stating:
Earlier today (Tuesday), during the movement of the crowd along the designated routes toward the aid distribution site—approximately half a kilometer from the site—IDF troops identified several suspects moving toward them, deviating from the designated access routes. The troops carried out warning fire, and after the suspects failed to retreat, additional shots were directed near a few individual suspects who advanced toward the troops.
The GHF also confirmed that the distribution of aid at the site had taken place without any violent incidents.
Israeli government spokesman David Mencer later briefed journalists and confirmed that the incident had happened half a kilometer from the aid site, and only involved a few individuals. He pointed out the absurdity of claiming that Israel was killing civilians at aid sites that it was trying to encourage Palestinians to use.

No media outlet bothered to explain why Palestinian civilian would continue to flock to aid sites where they were supposedly being killed by Israeli forces lying in wait, as Hamas had claimed for several days.

“The IDF did not fire at civilians in, or near, humanitarian aid distribution zones,” Mencer said.

He also linked fake news to terror attacks against Jews in the U.S. “Hamas invents lies, the media unfortunately repeat them, and the result is Jews murdered, or Molotov cocktails thrown at them.”

Mencer reminded reporters of IDF footage showing that Hamas, not Israel, had fired on Palestinian civilians seeking aid from GHF Sunday, because Hamas wanted to control aid distribution to the local population.

“That is their last hold on power,” Mencer said. He also noted that Hamas and had pushed fake claims about atrocities since the beginning of the war, which the media repeated every time, burying later corrections.

 

Wyominglarry

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Lots of fake news and lies coming from all sides. I find it very interesting that yesterday a so called news article said that Trump would allow Iran to enrich uranium and today Trump announces he will not allow any enrichment. There is a mind game being played and I hope it ends with both the US and Israel bombing Iran into the stone age.
 

Millwright

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Lots of fake news and lies coming from all sides. I find it very interesting that yesterday a so called news article said that Trump would allow Iran to enrich uranium and today Trump announces he will not allow any enrichment. There is a mind game being played and I hope it ends with both the US and Israel bombing Iran into the stone age.

Half the drones in the US will swallow it while.

Doesn't take much to game stupid people.

They're the ones who won't get out of the fast lane.
 

SouthernBreeze

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Lots of fake news and lies coming from all sides. I find it very interesting that yesterday a so called news article said that Trump would allow Iran to enrich uranium and today Trump announces he will not allow any enrichment. There is a mind game being played and I hope it ends with both the US and Israel bombing Iran into the stone age.

I agree. A lot of fake news being reported. I tire of trying to figure out what is true and what is false, even here on the forum. A tweet will be posted, and later in the day, another tweet will say the first one was fake. Back and forth it goes. I guess that's just the nature of the beast, so who knows what's actually going on.
 

jward

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Israel Radar
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2 rockets from Syria explode in open areas in Golan Heights; this is the first Syrian rocket fire since new regime took over; IDF responds with artillery fire.
 

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Israel Radar
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Additional missile alerts in Nazareth area in northern Israel; lots of red alerts across Israel this evening.
 

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Open Source Intel
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An unidentified terror group linked to Hamxs has claimed responsibility for the rocket fire from Syria.
Israel Radar
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2 rockets from Syria explode in open areas in Golan Heights; this is the first Syrian rocket fire since new regime took over; IDF responds with artillery fire.
 

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Open Source Intel
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Jolani doesn’t control all the terror groups in Syria. This likely wasn’t his doing. Still, Israel will strike Syria hard tonight, and the responsibility is his. Some groups may be unhappy about the quiet talks between Israel and Syria.
Open Source Intel
@Osint613
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An unidentified terror group linked to Hamxs has claimed responsibility for the rocket fire from Syria.
 

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Open Source Intel
@Osint613
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NEW

Defense Minister Israel Katz declared, “Israel views Syrian leader Ahmad al-Sharaa (Jolani) as directly responsible for every threat and [rocket] fire toward the State of Israel.”

“The full response will come soon,” he warned, adding, “We will not allow a return to the reality of October 7.”
 

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EndGameWW3
@EndGameWW3
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Israeli media outlet: After coordination with Israel, Turkish warplanes and drones entered Syrian airspace.
 

jward

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Open Source Intel
@Osint613
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Jolani doesn’t control all the terror groups in Syria. This likely wasn’t his doing. Still, Israel will strike Syria hard tonight, and the responsibility is his. Some groups may be unhappy about the quiet talks between Israel and Syria.
Clash Report
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Syrian Foreign Ministry:

No confirmation yet of any strikes toward Israel. Various parties are destabilizing the region for their own interests.

Syria does not and will not pose a threat to any side in the region. Priority in southern Syria is restoring state authority and ending unauthorized weapons.

Israeli escalation is a clear violation of Syrian sovereignty and raises tensions. We call on the international community to take responsibility and stop Israeli aggression.
 

Housecarl

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This is what I expect. I also believe they will be allowed to keep what they have already enriched

The problem has always been that the collateral damage potential to the Iranian civilian population from the "level of intensity" needed to be sure the sites are completely taken out only becomes "acceptable" the nanosecond before Iran has "the bomb". Any time before that there are justification problems, particularly for the US.
 

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Joe Truzman
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In a direct challenge to Hamas, Yasser Abu Shabab's Popular Forces militia has declared that large parts of Eastern Rafah have been cleared (assuming of Hamas presence). Shabab calls on residents to return to the area for water, food, medicine, and shelter.
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Impressive. Let's see how Hamas and and its allies react to the new emerging authority. I have little doubt that this is being done with the help of the IDF.
 

jward

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Israel Radar
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Israel is likely preparing several Iran strike plans for different scenarios, Maariv Online reports; this may include surprising & deceptive tactical moves; for now, defense officials are quietly monitoring US-Iran talks.



Israel Radar
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What's the best time to attack Iran?
Clear skies are ideal for precision strikes, especially targeting highly fortified assets like Iran’s nuclear sites. Modern munitions are less weather-sensitive, but clear skies are still preferable for maximum accuracy & damage assessment -->
Fall season (roughly September-November) is likely the optimal period for an Israeli strike on Iran's nuke project due to favorable weather conditions for long-range stealth operations -->
A final reminder: Israel’s successful assault on Iranian air defenses & missile facilities took place in October 2024, with IDF effectively targeting & destroying strategic Iranian assets.
 

jward

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Yehuda Teitelbaum
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BREAKING:

A Columbia University protester with ties to Hamas has been indicted on federal hate crime charges.

Tarek Bazrouk, 20, a U.S. citizen from NYC, was:

– In a chat group with Hamas’ military spokesman Abu Obeida, receiving real-time updates from the terror group’s armed wing, al-Qassam Brigades
– Caught on Columbia’s campus texting about setting a Jewish student on fire during an anti-Israel protest
– Called an acquittance a “F—ing Jew,” and told a friend to “slap that bitch” in reference to a woman with an Israeli sticker on her laptop, according to court documents.
– Allegedly assaulted multiple Jews, including punching a Columbia student while ranting about Hitler
– Found in possession of brass knuckles, multiple knives, and $750,000 in cash during a federal raid
– Had his phone “littered with pro-Hamas and pro-Hezbollah propaganda,” including memes celebrating terrorism and messages calling Jews “worthless”
– Boasted that he was a “Jew hater” and “mad happy” to have Hamas-affiliated family abroad
– Told a friend he would “boom boom” the next Jew he saw
– Traveled to the West Bank and Jordan for approximately three weeks in September 2024 for unknown reasons.

This is the first confirmed case of a U.S.-based protester directly connected to Hamas’ military leadership.

And it happened at Columbia University, where pro-Hamas demonstrators were celebrated by the media and many of our politicians as civil rights activists.

He’s facing up to 30 years in prison.

University officials claim he wasn’t a student, but does that even matter? If anything it makes it worse. Why were these people allowed anywhere near campus?

And why did the NYPD continue to release him time and time again?

This story should be front-page news across the country.

Via @nypost
 

jward

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Amichai Stein
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Political Turmoil in Israel: Are Early Elections on the Horizon?

• The Cause: Ultra-Orthodox parties are threatening to exit the coalition over the government's failure to pass legislation exempting yeshiva students from mandatory military service.

• Latest Development: The leadership of United Torah Judaism, holding 7 Knesset seats, declared their intent to withdraw from the coalition due to the absence of the exemption law.

• Why Hasn't the Government Collapsed? Netanyahu’s coalition would still command a slim majority of 61 Knesset members. Meanwhile, all eyes are on Shas, the other ultra-Orthodox faction, to see how it will act. A critical vote on dissolving the Knesset is set for next Wednesday.

• In Conclusion: Israel faces a major political crisis, but Netanyahu has a seven-day window to defuse the situation
 

Melodi

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Amichai Stein
@AmichaiStein1
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Political Turmoil in Israel: Are Early Elections on the Horizon?

• The Cause: Ultra-Orthodox parties are threatening to exit the coalition over the government's failure to pass legislation exempting yeshiva students from mandatory military service.

• Latest Development: The leadership of United Torah Judaism, holding 7 Knesset seats, declared their intent to withdraw from the coalition due to the absence of the exemption law.

• Why Hasn't the Government Collapsed? Netanyahu’s coalition would still command a slim majority of 61 Knesset members. Meanwhile, all eyes are on Shas, the other ultra-Orthodox faction, to see how it will act. A critical vote on dissolving the Knesset is set for next Wednesday.

• In Conclusion: Israel faces a major political crisis, but Netanyahu has a seven-day window to defuse the situation
I hope this doesn't happen, but if his government is about to fall, I suspect that Netanyahu might order that strike on Iran's nuclear facilities in 3, 2, 1....
 

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Joe Truzman
@JoeTruzman
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Israel will not allow Greta Thunberg and other activists to approach Gaza.

Israel initially considered allowing the boat Madelein, carrying Greta Thunberg and other activists, to dock in Gaza but ultimately rejected the move to avoid setting a precedent, Kan News reported. Defense Minister Katz is expected to meet with senior IDF officials to determine whether to leave the vessel at sea or escort it to the port of Ashdod and arrest those on board.
 
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