ALERT Regional middleast war thread Israel and Iran at war

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
Israeli sources claiming a response will come tonight. IRGC have said, supposedly, they have thousands of missiles ready to launch.
My bet would be Russia will inform them if they spot Israel planes launching.
My fear is a nuke hitting Tehran; which would unleash hell on the planet, no matter how look it took to reach us.
So maybe that earlier report from NYPrepper that Israeli planes were passing over Iraqi airspace is true.

:shkr:
 

okie-carbine

Veteran Member
I wouldn't be surprised if Israel USA left those planes at that base to be purposefully hit for PR.

SEE!! Iran attacked us first, now they must die.
 
exactly. They knew the attack was coming. See post above---maybe already on their way to Iran?
I don't know. I was browsing news, claims that Iran would attack in hours. Claims that Israeli was ready to launch pre-emptive strikes. Next thing I knew Israel was getting hit in a big way. I had to check Agenda Free News to make sure it wasn't a sh_t post, it was all so sudden.

Means to me that the launch and strikes were not that many minutes apart, with no time for all those with real sources on Twitter to respond or warn before the missiles hit.

Although I don't think it happened here, wise to remember what happened to the Soryu, Akagi, Kaga, Hiryu with fully loaded planes on deck when the US attacks at Midway went in. If planes were being prepped for a big attack ..................................

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onetimer

Veteran Member
A lot of claims. US and Israel sources saying attack was a failure. More videos are surfacing. Time will tell.

My bet would be the hypersonics were trying to hit the Air Defense systems.

Israeli sources claiming a response will come tonight. IRGC have said, supposedly, they have thousands of missiles ready to launch.
My bet would be Russia will inform them if they spot Israel planes launching.
My fear is a nuke hitting Tehran; which would unleash hell on the planet, no matter how look it took to reach us.
The capability to intercept inbound missiles based on their trajectories leads me to wonder whether there was a strategy to let some damage occur at the air bases. This could serve to justify a planned retaliatory strike on Iran's nuclear program. While it may not be necessary, it could help silence any opposition.
 
So maybe that earlier report from NYPrepper that Israeli planes were passing over Iraqi airspace is true.

:shkr:
Could be. I doubt it though. Iran would know by now (as the Russians would know for sure) and more waves of missiles would be on their way. I do believe that the IRGC would have been set up to launch everything they had. If not, stupid, the way Saddam was stupid to just sit in Kuwait for 6 months while we took that long to gear up in Saudi Arabia. But who knows?
 

Bps1691

Veteran Member
I’m of the complete opposite opinion. Up till now I have always thought this was a PR game between the players but I think this is different. I think we will see a significant hit inside Iran.
Plus our elections are coming soon and my guess is pad on knees isn’t polling well in their internal polling. The deep state has contacts and could be pushing Iran to escalate. Note I said could be
 

AlfaMan

TB Fanatic

That's an accurate representation. Look at this topo map of Iran-they have missile bases within mountains in the country, much like the Swiss. The Zagros range is missile heavy in particular.

FYI the street in front of the Israeli embassy here in DC was shut off for most of the day today. Don't know if it's still blocked but it's right off CT. Av and Van Ness street north of the National Cathedral.

This attack ratcheted up the Iran Israel all out war potential hugely. Hugely, folks.

There's some scary stuff going on around here.

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Reasonable Rascal

Veteran Member
I don't know. I was browsing news, claims that Iran would attack in hours. Claims that Israeli was ready to launch pre-emptive strikes. Next thing I knew Israel was getting hit in a big way. I had to check Agenda Free News to make sure it wasn't a sh_t post, it was all so sudden.

Means to me that the launch and strikes were not that many minutes apart, with no time for all those with real sources on Twitter to respond or warn before the missiles hit.

Although I don't think it happened here, wise to remember what happened to the Soryu, Akagi, Kaga, Hiryu with fully loaded planes on deck when the US attacks at Midway went in. If planes were being prepped for a big attack ..................................

Sooo, if the Israelis were fueling and arming planes on the ground, and the Iranians hit those areas with their missiles at that time, the airfields would sink, right? Like the Jap flat tops did?

RR
 

Squid

Veteran Member
Before people get too over their ski’s. The US is helping to provide air cover AND intelligence.

Israel may take a wack at the nuclear program but there is not a chance in heck they will take out Iran’s oil capacity that is supplying 3 million barrels to ‘the market’ right before a US election.

If Israel attacked any serious part of Iran’s oil program oil would shoot to 80-90 dollars a barrel and we have already drained the SPR so the economy, the stock market and demo’s chance in the election would be toast.
 

Murt

Veteran Member
we will have to deal with iran sooner or later
it will be painful and I fear the longer we take the more painful it will be
so do we deal with it or do like we have in everything else --leave it for our children
 

Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
would they respond--or be able to respond--that quickly?

The same night?

In the immortal words of John Wayne, "This thing ain't over yet."

I'm guessing they have a target list that's regularly updated for such contingencies.

The question comes down to target selection and the "message" to be delivered.

Whatever happens next IMHO, the Iranian IADS is going to be gone with whatever the focus of the coming reply.
 
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