POL Reconsidering the Presidential Election

Mr.Smith

Isa:54:16: Behold, I have created the smith
Reconsidering the Presidential Election
The Saker• September 14, 2020



In early July I wrote a piece entitled “Does the next Presidential election even matter?” in which I made the case that voting in the next election to choose who will be the next puppet in the White House will be tantamount to voting for a new captain while the Titanic is sinking. I gave three specific reasons why I thought that the next election would be pretty much irrelevant:
  1. The US system is rigged to give all the power to minorities and to completely ignore the will of the people
  2. The choice between the Demolicans and the Republicrats is not a choice at all
  3. The systemic crisis of the US is too deep to be affected by who is in power in the White House
I have now reconsidered my position and I now see that I was wrong because I missed something important:
A lot has happened in the past couple of months and I now have come to conclude that while choosing a captain won’t make any difference to a sinking Titanic, it might make a huge difference to those passengers who are threatened by a group of passengers run amok. In other words, while I still do not think that the next election will change much for the rest of the planet (the decay of the Empire will continue), it is gradually becoming obvious that for the United States the difference between the two sides is becoming very real.

Why?

This is probably the first presidential election in US history where the choice will be not between two political programs or two political personalities, but the stark and binary choice between law and order and total chaos.

It is now clear that the Dems are supporting the rioting mobs and that they see these mobs as the way to beat Trump.
It is also becoming obvious that this is not a white vs. black issue: almost all the footage from the rioting mobs shows a large percentage of whites, sometimes even a majority of whites, especially amongst the most aggressive and violent rioters (the fact that these whites regularly get beat up by rampaging blacks hunting for “whitey” does not seem to deter these folks).

True, both sides blame each other for “dividing the country” and “creating the conditions for a civil war”, but any halfway objective and fact based appraisal of what is taking place shows that the Dems have comprehensively caved into the BLM/Antifa ideology (which is hardly surprising, since that ideology is a pure product of the Dems (pseudo-)liberal worldview in the first place). Yes, the Demolicans and the Republicrats are but two factions of the same “Party of Money”, but the election of Trump in 2016 and the subsequent 4 years of intense seditious efforts to delegitimize Trump have resulted in a political climate in which we roughly have, on one hand, what I would call the “Trump Party” (which is not the same as the GOP) and the “deplorables” objectively standing for law and order. On the other hand, we have the Dems, some Republicans, big corporations and the BLM/Antifa mobs who now all objectively stand for anarchy, chaos and random violence.

I have always criticized the AngloZionist Empire and the US themselves for their messianic and supremacist ideology, and I agree that in their short history the United States have probably spilled more innocent blood than any other regime in history. Yet I also believe that there also have been many truly good things in US history, things which other countries should emulate (as many have!). I am referring to things like the US Constitution, the Bill of Rights, the spirit of self-reliance, a strong work ethic, the immense creativity of the people of the US and their love for their country.

It is now clear that the Dems find nothing good in the US or its history – hence their total support for the wanton (and, frankly, barbaric) destruction of historical statues or for the ridiculous notion that the United States was primarily built by black slaves and that modern whites are somehow guilty of what their ancestors did (including whites who did not have any slave owners amongst their ancestors).

Putin once said that he has no problems at all with any opposition to the Russian government, but that he categorically rejects the opposition to Russia herself (most of the non-systemic opposition in Russia is profoundly russophobic). I see the exact same thing happening here, in the US: the Dem/BLM/Antifa gang are profoundly anti-US, and not for the right reasons. It is just obvious that these people are motivated by pure hate and where there is hate, violence always follows!
To think that there will be no violence if these people come to power would be extremely naive: those who come to power by violence always end up ruling by violence.

For the past several decades, the US ruling elites have been gutting the Constitution by a million legislative and regulatory cuts (I can personally attest to the fact that the country where I obtained my degrees in 1986-1991 is a totally different country from the one I am living in now. Thirty years ago there was real ideological freedom and pluralism in the US, and differences of opinion, even profound ones, were considered normal). Now the apparatus needed to crack down on the “deplorables” has been established, especially on the Federal level. If we now apply the “motive, means & opportunity” criterion we can only conclude that the Dem/BLM/Antifa have the motive and will sure have the means and opportunity if Biden makes it to the White House.

Furthermore, major media corporations are already cracking down against Trump supporters and even against President Trump himself (whom Twitter now threatens to censor if he declares that he won). YouTube is demonetizing “deplorable” channels and also de-ranking them in searches. Google does the same. For a President which heavily relies on short messages to his support base, this is a major threat.

One of Trump’s biggest mistakes was to rely on Twitter instead of funding his own social media platform. He sure had the money. What he lacked was any foresight or understanding of the enemy.

Paul Craig Roberts has been one of the voices which has been warning us that anti-White racism is real and that the United States & Its Constitution Have Two Months Left. I submit that on the former he is undeniably correct and that we ought to pay heed to his warning about what might soon happen next. I also tend to agree with others who warn us that violence will happen next, no matter who wins. Not only are some clearly plotting a coup against Trump should he declare himself the winner, but things have now gone so far that the Chairmen of the JCS had to make an official statement saying that the US military will play no role in the election. Finally, and while I agree that Florida might not be a typical state, I see a lot of signs saying “defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic” with the word “domestic” emphasised in some manner. Is this the proverbial “writing on the wall”?

Conclusion:
The Empire is dying and nothing can save it, things have gone way too far to ever return to the bad old days of US world hegemony. Furthermore, I have the greatest doubts about Trump or his supporters being able to successfully defeat Dem/BLM/Antifa. “Just” winning the election won’t be enough, even if Trump wins by a landslide: we already know that the Dem/BLM/Antifa will never accept a Trump victory, no matter how big. I also suspect that 2020 will be dramatically different from the 2000 Gore-Bush election which saw the outcome decided by a consensus of the ruling elites: this time around the hatred is too deep, and there will be no negotiated compromise between the parties.

In 2016 I recommended a Trump vote for one, single, overwhelming reason: my profound belief that Hillary would have started a war against Syria and, almost immediately, against Russia (the Dems are, again, making noises about such a war should they return into the White House). As for Trump, for all his megalomaniacal threats and in spite of a few (thoroughly ineffective) missile strikes on Syria, he has not started a new war.

By the way, when was it the last time that a US president did NOT order a war during his time in office?

The fact is that the Trump victory in 2016 gave Russia the time to finalize her preparations for any time of aggression, or even a full-scale war, which the US might try to throw at her. The absence of any US reaction to the Iranian retaliatory missile strikes against US bases in Iraq in January has shown that US military commanders have no stomach for a war against Iran, nevermind China or, even less, Russia. By now it is too late, Russia is ready for anything, while the US is not. Trump bought the planet an extra four years to prepare for war, and the key adversarie of the US have used that time with great benefit. As for the former world hegemon, it can’t even take on Venezuela…

But inside the US, what we see taking place before us is a weird kind of war against the people of the US, a war waged by a very dangerous mix of ideologues and thugs (that is the toxic recipe for most revolutions!). And while Trump or Biden won’t really matter much to Russia, China or Iran, it still might matter a great deal to millions of people who deserve better than to live under a Dem/BLM/Antifa dictatorship (whether only ideological or actual).

The US of 2020 in so many ways reminds me of Russia in February 1917: the ruling classes were drunk on their ideological dogmas and never realized that the revolution they so much wanted would end up killing most of them. This is exactly what the US ruling classes are doing: they are acting like a parasite who cannot understand that by killing its host it will also kill itself. The likes of Pelosi very much remind me of Kerensky, the man who first destroyed the 1000 year old Russian monarchy and who then proceeded to replace it with kind of totally dysfunctional “masonic democracy” which only lasted 8 months until the Bolsheviks finally seized power and restored law and order (albeit in a viciously ruthless manner).
The US political system is both non-viable and non-reformable. No matter what happens next, the US as we knew it will collapse this winter, PCR is right. The only questions remaining are:
  • What will replace it? and
  • How long (and painful) will the transition to a new US be?
Trump in the White House might not make things better, but a Harris presidency (which is what a “Biden” victory will usher in) will make things much, much worse. Finally, there are millions of US Americans out there who did nothing wrong and who deserve to be protected from the rioting and looting mobs by their police agencies just as there are millions of US Americans who should retain the ability to defend themselves when no law enforcement is available. There is a good reason why the Second Amendment comes right after the First one – the two are organically linked! With the Dem/BLM/Antifa in power, the people of the US can kiss both Amendments goodbye.

I still don’t see a typical civil war breaking out in the US. But I see many, smaller, “local wars” breaking out all over the country – yes, violence is at this point inevitable. It is, therefore, the moral obligation of every decent person to do whatever he/she can do, no matter how small, to help the “deplorables” in their struggle against the forces of chaos, violence and tyranny, especially during the upcoming “years of transition” which will be very, very hard on the majority of the people living in the US.

This includes doing whatever is possible to prevent the Dem/BLM/Antifa from getting into the White House.

 

Freeholder

This too shall pass.
Facebook wouldn't let me post a link to that article, which means that it really needs to be read. I was able to post the title, and encouraged my friends to do a search for it, and read it. And I was able to post it on MeWe.

Kathleen
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
What is very special is he shares his OWN needs/concerns, not just the issues as he sees them from the external vantage point he has crafted for himself.

He's pretty damn sure that Trump may ONLY be relevant to US plebs HERE, regardless of his relevance to Europe and the Soviets.
I would be INTENSELY HAPPY if that proved to be an underestimate as for the World Stage.
 

Freeholder

This too shall pass.
What is very special is he shares his OWN needs/concerns, not just the issues as he sees them from the external vantage point he has crafted for himself.

He's pretty damn sure that Trump may ONLY be relevant to US plebs HERE, regardless of his relevance to Europe and the Soviets.
I would be INTENSELY HAPPY if that proved to be an underestimate as for the World Stage.

The Israelis consider Trump to be very important to them. Amir Tsarfati is urging Christians to vote for him - apparently some have decided Trump must be the anti-christ because he is brokering peace deals for Israel. But the Bible says the anti-christ confirms peace deals. That means they have to already be in place! Also, the anti-christ comes out of the renewed Roman empire. He is not Trump.

Kathleen
 

Chicory

#KeeptheRepublic
Great read! I feel called upon to read up on the history of Winston Churchill. Feels like there is a parallel here with Trump being a lone voice for freedoms.
 

nomifyle

TB Fanatic
It may have been a good article but I stopped reading when he critized Trump, I'm that kind of Trump supporter.

I hear died in the wool republicans around here critize him and then what ever it was the critized him about worked out just fine. So I don't listen to or read anything naysayers have to say.

God is good all the time

Judy
 

Freeholder

This too shall pass.
For anyone who has not noticed lately, DJT is not the president of Israel.

No, he isn't. Amir Tsarfati is a Christian Jew who travels the world teaching the Bible, mostly about prophecy. He's also a Major in the IDF reserves. So he talks to a lot of American Christians and hears from them. That's why I brought him up. He's heard from, or about, a lot of American Christians who have decided that Trump must be the anti-christ because he has brought about these peace treaties between Arab countries and Israel. And he's trying to counter-act that (he thinks Trump is great -- evidently a lot of Israelis like Trump).

Kathleen
 

Sacajawea

Has No Life - Lives on TB
If one's eyes are open, you can't escape the conclusion (if you have any brain cells functional left) that there is a rapidly shrinking probability that things WON'T be extremely grim in the months and years to come.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
One of Trump’s biggest mistakes was to rely on Twitter instead of funding his own social media platform. He sure had the money. What he lacked was any foresight or understanding of the enemy.

I agree and disagree with this statement... had he funded his own social media platform the leftists would have done everything in their power to destroy it, and they would have labeled him a dictator. And sometimes it's hard to understand the enemy, especially when they are coming at you from a million different directions.
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
Interesting read, well worth it, but pretty damn grim... :kaid:
The times are pretty damn grim. And look to get even more so.
As Doz can tell ya, this guy was HEAVILY TRAINED to be CLEAR, STERN, and UNFLINCHING in his analyses of the country he was paid to understand.
I would certainly NOT want an FAO who was an apologist for his assigned country. Give us ALL of the UNVARNISHED facts because that is what we need to make rational decisions. And trust me the Soviets MADE rational decisions.
 

willowlady

Veteran Member
The Israelis consider Trump to be very important to them. Amir Tsarfati is urging Christians to vote for him - apparently some have decided Trump must be the anti-christ because he is brokering peace deals for Israel. But the Bible says the anti-christ confirms peace deals. That means they have to already be in place! Also, the anti-christ comes out of the renewed Roman empire. He is not Trump.

Kathleen
If you cannot see that the US is almost a duplicate of the Roman Empire, you do not know your history. Our political system is very similar to what their was prior to the Imperial era. That said, there are many governments that have been built on that model, so I do not perceive Trump as the anti-Christ. And that's not because he's publicly a Christian. It's because of what he does, not because of what he says. Further, the peace deals he has brokered in the Middle East are by no means comprehensive. I don't see Iran and Turkey climbing on that band wagon.
 

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
I wish 'unbiased' was on that list, ND, but the only one of our FAOs whose name might ring a bell these days is Ralph Peters, former Faux commentator.

Sad ...
 

Freeholder

This too shall pass.
If you cannot see that the US is almost a duplicate of the Roman Empire, you do not know your history. Our political system is very similar to what their was prior to the Imperial era. That said, there are many governments that have been built on that model, so I do not perceive Trump as the anti-Christ. And that's not because he's publicly a Christian. It's because of what he does, not because of what he says. Further, the peace deals he has brokered in the Middle East are by no means comprehensive. I don't see Iran and Turkey climbing on that band wagon.

The Founding Fathers did base our form of government at least partly on the Roman republic, but we are in no way a duplicate of the Roman Empire. And, America is not to be found in the Bible. The European Union, perhaps with some additions, is a better candidate for the revived Roman Empire discussed in Biblical prophecy, because much of Europe was part of the original Roman Empire.

The Anti-christ won't be known until after the Ezekiel war, which happens before the seven-year Tribulation begins.

No, Iran and Turkey aren't going to sign peace treaties with Israel. They and some other countries are the ones who will attack Israel, and be stopped by God. One reason some of the Arab countries are now signing peace treaties with Israel is because they want Israel's assistance against Iran.

Kathleen
 

bcingu

Senior Member
I just read this as I am posting on the evening of the 18th. I stopped reading after he stated
" I now have come to conclude that while choosing a captain won’t make any difference to a sinking Titanic, it might make a huge difference to those passengers who are threatened by a group of passengers run amok. In other words, while I still do not think that the next election will change much for the rest of the planet (the decay of the Empire will continue), it is gradually becoming obvious that for the United States the difference between the two sides is becoming very real."

What a difference 24 hours makes.

Ginsberg is dead. The dems will scream and cry but we have the senate. A new justice swings the supremes conservative killing any judicial end run for the election by the dems.

Indictments have been announced.

Pelosi just denounced the rioters as support for BLM crashes. Dr. Turly talks about Hypocrite Nancy

I don't see the end of our country YET.

Look at how far Trump has pushed the dems, Hollywood, pro sports, the uber rich, and every other country in the world in 4 years. They have tried every dirty underhanded cheat and they still fail. He is on the precipice of victory. We will witness the systematic destruction of systemic corruption in all government worldwide, the two tiered justice system, the liberal left utopian dream of socialism, political correctness, SJWs, the LGBTQRSV, and the left assault on religion.

Trump and others in his cabinet have eluded to life after this victory. We are so close.

With a conservative court and a landslide victory clearly endorsing conservatism and rejecting liberalism. Trump will have a mandate. That will be a deck clearing barrage spotlighting the MSM's bias after years of lies. Their complicity with the left undeniable after the second Trump victory which the MSM clearly predicted a win for Biden trying to sway the voter just as in 16. I believe we will take the House and bolster the Senate.

This victory will be the Trump bitch slap heard around the world. remember the G8 when they all complained about Trump. Remember how Trump walked onto the stage dripping toxic masculinity and NEVER APOLOGIZED. He didn't ask what they thought..he told them what AMERICA WAS GOING TO DO.

I have BEGGED for 40+ years for a republican to get on camera and respond to the BS the dems have been allowed to say. The Clinton years not even Newt would tell Bill what he really thought. It was always "we have to reach across the aisle" "we have to work together" "bipartisanship" while the dems are saying "the 2nd Amendment is outdated" "the religious right is the most dangerous group in America" "America owes minorities" etc.. Trump says what is on his mind and NEVER APOLOGIZES.

You show me a man or woman who could withstand the personal attacks on them self, their wife, children, & family not to mention have everything they say misquoted. Every press conference filled with gotcha questions and lies about what your doing etc.. that would still be in front of the press answering questions. Go ahead point them out. Trump has a spine of steel and balls of titanium.

No, unless Trump is assassinated our world changes November 4th.
 

jed turtle

a brother in the Lord
The Israelis consider Trump to be very important to them. Amir Tsarfati is urging Christians to vote for him - apparently some have decided Trump must be the anti-christ because he is brokering peace deals for Israel. But the Bible says the anti-christ confirms peace deals. That means they have to already be in place! Also, the anti-christ comes out of the renewed Roman empire. He is not Trump.

Kathleen
Interesting observation!
 

Samuel Adams

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Total chaos......is a gift in disguise, to those able to receive it.

If you find yourself a hapless recipient, use that gift wisely.

Solzhenitsyn wasn’t quoted as saying so, but I hear the thought crossed his mind on more than one occasion.
 

Telescope Steve

Veteran Member
Mr. Smith said above: "One of Trump’s biggest mistakes was to rely on Twitter instead of funding his own social media platform. He sure had the money. What he lacked was any foresight or understanding of the enemy."
I agree and disagree with this statement... had he funded his own social media platform the leftists would have done everything in their power to destroy it, and they would have labeled him a dictator. And sometimes it's hard to understand the enemy, especially when they are coming at you from a million different directions.

President Trump used 'their' platform to speak directly to the American people, including the huge number of those who did not support him. And he bypassed the political spin of the big media companies.

Also, he made some of his posts in a way that forced the media to talk about it, and to follow up by asking him questions. So he was able to drive the news of the day just off one comment. He has kept the media off balance by the timing and the way he makes his posts.

His own platform would only have reached some of his supporters. And it would have allowed the big media companies to then spin what he said, knowing that their audience would not check the president's posts directly.

His use of Twitter was a brilliant strategy. And he wins even if they block him because he could use it to point out the corruption and the political censorship of the social media companies. He still has the bully pulpit of the presidency to speak directly to the American people.
 
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Telescope Steve

Veteran Member
I remain hopeful that President Trump will continue to drain the swamp and patch the Titanic so that it does not even sink. The next two months will show us if this happens or not. I trust that he will be able to minimize the voter fraud and allow us to see how much support he really has.

I agree that if President Trump is not re-elected the United States will be a lot more like the Titanic sinking.
 
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