INTL Ramadan Kill-a-thon: Muslims raid maternity hospital, murder 11 mothers, including 3 with unborn babies in Afghanistan

Cardinal

Chickministrator
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In a lecture, Pope Benedict XVI quoted from a dialogue from 1391 between Manuel II and a Persian scholar and recorded in a book by Manuel II (Dialogue 7 of Twenty-six Dialogues with a Persian) in which the Emperor stated: “Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.”
And close to 700 years later, it still stands.
Ramadan in Afghanistan: Muslims raid maternity hospital, murder 11 mothers, including 3 with unborn babies
May 24, 20202:00 pm By Robert Spencer:
“The attackers could have targeted other parts of the facility, but witnesses said they went straight to the maternity ward, which is supported by the international charity.”
Will the Islamophobia never end?
“Three women with unborn babies among 11 mothers killed in attack on Kabul maternity hospital,”
By Deborah Haynes, Sky News, May 21, 2020:
Three women in the delivery room with their unborn babies were among 11 mothers killed in an attack on a maternity hospital in Kabul last week, a charity has said.
Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF) has accused gunmen of intentionally targeting mothers in the assault on 12 May that also left two young boys and a midwife dead.
In total, 24 people were killed and at least 20 more wounded, including five mothers and two new-born babies.
“I went back the day after the attack and what I saw in the maternity demonstrates it was a systematic shooting of the mothers,” said Frederic Bonnot, MSF’s head of programmes in Afghanistan.
“It was methodical. Walls sprayed with bullets, blood on the floor in the rooms, vehicles burnt out and windows shot through.”


No one has yet claimed responsibility for the attack.
The Taliban denied involvement, though suspicion remains, while there have also been reports it was carried out by militants linked to Islamic State….
MSF said a total of 26 mothers had been at the Dasht-e-Barchi hospital when an as-yet unknown number of gunmen launched their assault at about 10am….
The attackers could have targeted other parts of the facility, but witnesses said they went straight to the maternity ward, which is supported by the international charity.
“What ensued was four hours of hell – that is how long the attack lasted, while patients and staff alike looked for shelter,” said Mr Bonnot….
 

billet

Veteran Member
Not bashing, just a history reminder. The Albigensians, the Cathars, The Waldensians, the Hussites are just some of the people groups that were mercilously exterminated by Rome.
I may be wrong, but I think the muzzies pale by comparison.
 

Cardinal

Chickministrator
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Not bashing, just a history reminder. The Albigensians, the Cathars, The Waldensians, the Hussites are just some of the people groups that were mercilously exterminated by Rome.
I may be wrong, but I think the muzzies pale by comparison.
I think you are wrong.
Here is a challenge; back up your assertions with references and please post to the Rel sig, not on this thread. Thanks.
 

mikeabn

Finally not a lurker!
Not bashing, just a history reminder. The Albigensians, the Cathars, The Waldensians, the Hussites are just some of the people groups that were mercilously exterminated by Rome.
I may be wrong, but I think the muzzies pale by comparison.
Yes the RCC did some terrible things in the past but with the Muslims it is an active practicing way of their beliefs to this day. I am saddened as I write this; it may very well be that I owe my life to some Muslims. I pray for them.
 

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
Not bashing, just a history reminder. The Albigensians, the Cathars, The Waldensians, the Hussites are just some of the people groups that were mercilously exterminated by Rome.
I may be wrong, but I think the muzzies pale by comparison.

You are wrong.

These figures are a rough estimate of the death of non-Muslims by the political act of jihad.

Africa
Thomas Sowell [Thomas Sowell, Race and Culture, BasicBooks, 1994, p. 188] estimates that 11 million slaves were shipped across the Atlantic and 14 million were sent to the Islamic nations of North Africa and the Middle East. For every slave captured many others died. Estimates of this collateral damage vary. The renowned missionary David Livingstone estimated that for every slave who reached a plantation, five others were killed in the initial raid or died of illness and privation on the forced march.[Woman’s Presbyterian Board of Missions, David Livingstone, p. 62, 1888] Those who were left behind were the very young, the weak, the sick and the old. These soon died since the main providers had been killed or enslaved. So, for 25 million slaves delivered to the market, we have an estimated death of about 120 million people. Islam ran the wholesale slave trade in Africa.
120 million Africans

Christians
The number of Christians martyred by Islam is 9 million [David B. Barrett, Todd M. Johnson, World Christian Trends AD 30-AD 2200, William Carey Library, 2001, p. 230, table 4-10] . A rough estimate by Raphael Moore in History of Asia Minor is that another 50 million died in wars by jihad. So counting the million African Christians killed in the 20th century we have:
60 million Christians

Hindus
Koenard Elst in Negationism in India gives an estimate of 80 million Hindus killed in the total jihad against India. [Koenard Elst, Negationism in India, Voice of India, New Delhi, 2002, pg. 34.] The country of India today is only half the size of ancient India, due to jihad. The mountains near India are called the Hindu Kush, meaning the “funeral pyre of the Hindus.”
80 million Hindus

Buddhists
Buddhists do not keep up with the history of war. Keep in mind that in jihad only Christians and Jews were allowed to survive as dhimmis (servants to Islam) everyone else had to convert or die. Jihad killed the Buddhists in Turkey, Afghanistan, along the Silk Route, and in India. The total is roughly 10 million. [David B. Barrett, Todd M. Johnson, World Christian Trends AD 30-AD 2200, William Carey Library, 2001, p. 230, table 4-1.] 10 million Buddhists

Jews
Oddly enough there were not enough Jews killed in jihad to significantly affect the totals of the Great Annihilation. The jihad in Arabia was 100 percent effective, but the numbers were in the thousands, not millions. After that, the Jews submitted and became the dhimmis (servants and second class citizens) of Islam and did not have geographic political power.

This gives a rough estimate of 270 million killed by jihad.
 

mzkitty

I give up.
Really? I hadn't heard that. If so, why? Personally, I don't, but I might dispute an erroneous assertion- if one were made.

Back to splitting wood.

You're too new to remember.

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Nothing more vulnerable than mothers in labor.

'It Was Horrific:' Afghan Mother Speaks Out About Maternity Ward Attack

May 18, 2020 08:41 PM

Babies lie in their beds at the Ataturk Children's Hospital a day after they were rescued following a deadly attack on another…
Babies lie in their beds at the Ataturk Children's Hospital a day after they were rescued following a deadly attack on another maternity hospital, in Kabul, Afghanistan, May 13, 2020.


WASHINGTON / KABUL - “Because of the shock, my milk has dried up,” said Najiba, 35, an Afghan mother who narrowly escaped with her newborn son during last week’s maternity ward attack that has stunned Afghanistan.

The attack at Dasht-e-Barchi Hospital in Kabul by three shooters disguised as Afghan security forces has left more than 20 women and children dead and 16 others wounded.

Najiba, who like most Afghans goes by a single name, told VOA the maternity ward was the last place Afghans thought would become the scene of the country’s latest wave of militant violence.

“They entered, and everyone said that they were suicide attackers,” she said. “They all entered and started shooting. It was horrific. The windows were shattered. Everyone was running, and I was able to get out with my baby.”

Still in trauma, Najiba said she is grateful and amazed that she and her infant son were not shot as bullets reverberated through the ward.

“Thank God, my child is now doing well,” she said. “We have to buy powdered milk from the bazaar.”


An Afghan security officer carries a baby after gunmen attacked a maternity hospital, in Kabul, Afghanistan, Tuesday, May 12,…

AAn Afghan security officer carries a baby after gunmen attacked a maternity hospital, in Kabul, Afghanistan, May 12, 2020
The Taliban denied any involvement in the attack. The United States blames Islamic State. IS has not responded to the U.S.’s accusation, but the terror group did claim responsibility for a suicide attack at a funeral in eastern Nangarhar province that occurred the same day. Thirty-two people were killed.

Atiqulllah Qaati, head of Dasht-e-Barchi Hospital, told VOA that at least two newborns were killed. He said the babies who survived were first sent to nearby medical facilities before being returned to their mothers. Those who lost their mothers in the attack will be placed in the custody of relatives.

“Among the 19 newborns, 13 of them were returned to their families. Two of them were returned to their mothers. These two mothers were evacuated by the Afghan special forces during the operation. Six babies are still in the hospital,” Qaati said.
The hospital chief said he was in a meeting around 10 a.m. when he received word about the attack in a phone call.

“I could hear shooting on the phone,” he said, adding that the barrage of bullets left the hospital in ruins.

“The doors and windows are broken, and the walls are damaged. The building cannot be used until repaired. The president visited the hospital and promised to repair it as soon as possible,” Qaati said.

Dasht-e-Barchi is a 100-bed facility. Its 55-bed maternity ward was opened in 2014 by Médecins Sans Frontières (Doctors Without Borders). According to MSF, 5,401 babies have been delivered so far this year.

IIn a statement issued after the attack, MSF said it was devastated by “this senseless act of cowardly violence.” It said the maternity unit has suspended its activities but has not closed.


A man cries after an attack in maternity hospital, in Kabul, Afghanistan, Tuesday, May 12, 2020. Gunmen stormed the hospital in…

A man cries after an attack in maternity hospital, in Kabul, Afghanistan, May 12, 2020.

According to Qaati, the number of casualties could have been much higher had it not been for the emergency exits, the MSF-installed alarm system and measures taken to contain the coronavirus pandemic. He said patients were separated, and the medical staff worked in shifts as a part of social distancing practices.

“I am in complete shock,” Qaati said. “How they can attack a hospital — a hospital run by MSF, an organization that always keeps its neutrality?”

Wide reactions

Just hours after the attack, outraged Afghan officials publicly accused the Taliban, despite the group’s denial.
Afghan President Ashraf Ghani in a televised address ordered security forces to go from a defensive position to an offensive one. The country’s forces have been on “active defensive” mode since February when the Taliban committed to a weeklong reduction in violence.

Ghani said the security forces needed to resume operations "to defend the country, safeguard our countrymen and infrastructure, and to repel attacks and threats by the Taliban and all other terrorist groups."

International organizations have strongly condemned the attack, including Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International, who demanded the perpetrators be brought to justice for a “war crime.”

Deborah Lyons, the U.N. mission head in Afghanistan, denounced the attack on Twitter.
“Who attacks newborn babies and new mothers?” she asked. “Who does this? The most innocent of innocents, a baby! Why?”
U.S. officials, who are concerned the attack could undermine Afghanistan’s tenuous peace process, asked the Afghan government and the Taliban to remain committed to a peaceful resolution.


Newborn babies lie in their beds at the Ataturk Children's Hospital a day after they were rescued from a deadly attack on…

Newborn babies lie in their beds at the Ataturk Children's Hospital a day after they were rescued from a deadly attack on another maternity hospital, in Kabul, Afghanistan, May 13, 2020.

“There are forces such as ISIS that (do not) see peace in Afghanistan in its interest and are trying to increase violence to undermine the prospects for peace,” U.S. Special Representative Zalmay Khalilzad told reporters in a press conference last week, using an acronym for Islamic State.

“We are urging both sides not to fall into that trap but indeed, to cooperate against terrorists, including ISIS,” he said.
Some Afghanistan observers say the attack is a serious development in violence that has been surging in the country since the U.S.-Taliban agreement in late February. The attack, they warn, could lead to a sectarian divide that IS can capitalize on.
“I think it is important to investigate and find out, if possible, who in fact the perpetrator was,” said Scott Warden, director of Afghanistan and Central Asia programs at the U.S. Institute of Peace (USIP).

Warden said the nature and location of the incident “fits the pattern of ISIS attacks.”

The Dasht-e-Barchi hospital is located in western Kabul in a neighborhood that is predominately Hazara. For decades, the Shiite community has found itself targeted by Sunni extremists. While the Taliban has lately refrained from anti-Shiite rhetoric, IS continues to consider the minority’s faith a deviation from Islam.

According to Colin Clarke, a senior fellow at the Soufan Center, the attack puts more pressure on the Afghan government by increasing its security measures, while at the same time, attempting to advance peace talks with armed militants.
He said these types of attacks aim “to show that the Afghan government and security forces are unable to protect the population.”

 

Silverfox

TWTFS
Thomas Sowell [Thomas Sowell, Race and Culture, BasicBooks, 1994, p. 188] estimates that 11 million slaves were shipped across the Atlantic and 14 million were sent to the Islamic nations of North Africa and the Middle East.
Who did the actual capturing of all these slaves that came from African continent? White people or some other race? (F. Lee, Bailey caveat)
 

Silverfox

TWTFS
Tempted to try and write a banned word to see if it asstricks out. But I don't want to end up in the hole.

I did check out the thread, limitations on free expression imposed on the people by the current administration. And I'm not even right up to the line yet.
 

MinnesotaSmith

Membership Revoked
Who did the actual capturing of all these slaves that came from African continent? White people or some other race? (F. Lee, Bailey caveat)

Their own race. Whites died from various diseases in weeks or months if they tried to operate ashore in jungly Africa.
 

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
Who did the actual capturing of all these slaves that came from African continent? White people or some other race? (F. Lee, Bailey caveat)

Muslims

But then, you already knew the answer.

You ask a lot of questions for someone who seems pretty intelligent. And, if you have been lurking here for a while like it seems you have, I wonder who you are trying to teach...
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
The last time something like this happened, the unrestricted massacre of helpless medical patients, it was the Imperial Japanese Army in Hong Kong, Nanking, and assorted other places. Japanese troops went into the in the main Hong Kong hospital full of wounded British troops on Christmas Day 1941 and shot all the wounded soldiers. They then shot dead the head doctor who was yelling at them to stop. Finally, they raped, and then murdered the seven nurses they found there. We all know what happened to Japan don't we. 100,000 plus dead in Hiroshima, another 100 dead in Nagasaki, another 100,000 dead when Toyoko was firebombed and one third burned to the ground.

Afghanistan is a cesspool full of animals who keep doing shit like this. They will all be allowed to reap the death they so richly deserve. God does not take kindly to baby killers, as the USA can attest from all the aborted babies we have on our hands.
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
Oh, I forgot Herod Agrippa and the massacre of the innocents didn't I. He had his guts rot out and died in screaming agony. Yep, baby killers always come to a bad end.
 

Silverfox

TWTFS
Muslims

But then, you already knew the answer.

You ask a lot of questions for someone who seems pretty intelligent. And, if you have been lurking here for a while like it seems you have, I wonder who you are trying to teach...
Laws of Human Nature; Never Split The Difference. Got mine from YT; Free audio, (Grasshopper); Having a great time. If we learn something from it. . . It is a teaching. And when you can take this pebble from my hand, you may leave this place.
 

Papa

Senior Member
Time to vacate ashcanastan and leave them to their satanic ways, GOD will judge them. They are ungrateful POS. Should have turn it and Iraq into a sheet of glass. Problem solved.
 

emiliozapata

Senior Member
The last time something like this happened, the unrestricted massacre of helpless medical patients, it was the Imperial Japanese Army in Hong Kong, Nanking, and assorted other places. Japanese troops went into the in the main Hong Kong hospital full of wounded British troops on Christmas Day 1941 and shot all the wounded soldiers. They then shot dead the head doctor who was yelling at them to stop. Finally, they raped, and then murdered the seven nurses they found there. We all know what happened to Japan don't we. 100,000 plus dead in Hiroshima, another 100 dead in Nagasaki, another 100,000 dead when Toyoko was firebombed and one third burned to the ground.

Afghanistan is a cesspool full of animals who keep doing shit like this. They will all be allowed to reap the death they so richly deserve. God does not take kindly to baby killers, as the USA can attest from all the aborted babies we have on our hands.
Lets not forget all the supposed babies killed in their incubators when saddam invaded kuwait
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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Muslims

But then, you already knew the answer.

You ask a lot of questions for someone who seems pretty intelligent. And, if you have been lurking here for a while like it seems you have, I wonder who you are trying to teach...
Actually, the Muslims *bought* the slaves... they were "captured" and enslaved by members of their own race, although *generally* from different tribes. I say "generally " because it apparently wasn't unknown for an especially aggravating in law or tribe member to "disappear", while those they had aggravated to have a bit of extra jingle to spend...

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