PREP Quick clot packs found in walmart camping section
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I found a couple of those a few years back. Do they expire?
There was some discussion about these recently.
These are a pectin type product, not the kaolin.
IIRC, @Reasonable Rascal and @ComCamGuy had some good insight.
ETA: a thread in the BS regarding medical goods is what I was thinking about. I bumped it for reference....avoiding a link.
These are a pectin type product, not the kaolin.
IIRC, @Reasonable Rascal and @ComCamGuy had some good insight.
ETA: a thread in the BS regarding medical goods is what I was thinking about. I bumped it for reference....avoiding a link.
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DazedandConfused
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How much was it ?
kyrsyan
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I added versions of quikclot to the med kits last year. But I kept in mind some warnings about the powder. So I do have 4 tubes of the powder. But I have more bandages and the spray. And I'll add the pet version in an ointment soon.
The powder is good in an emergency but also means that the emergency responders or the ER nurses will have to clean it all out of the wound before they can start treatment/repair.
The powder is good in an emergency but also means that the emergency responders or the ER nurses will have to clean it all out of the wound before they can start treatment/repair.
Papacub
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That is the reason I have only the Quik Clot sponges In my trauma paks.
DazedandConfused
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Their going to clean out the wound regardless before closing it up. Scrub it out with a brush ask me how I know.
Knoxville's Joker
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You just made my skin crawl with that comment...
They work *really* well! We once had a heifer stick her head through a barn window and sever an artery on her face. Blood *everywhere*. We had a bottle of the blood stopper powder someone mentioned here recently... it didn't even slow it down, even under a pressure bandage. So I grabbed a handful of cobwebs from a corner of the barn, blew off the dust and dead flies, and after wedding them up a bit, I placed it over the bleeder, then added a ABD pad and held pressure on it. The webs stopped the bleeding so fast it didnt even soak through the pad!
I've since used them on other bad bleeder, and it's amazing how well they work. I actually keep a couple of waxed paper packets of clean webs in my vet kit...
Summerthyme
Thanks! What a great idea. I've used them, but when I went to grab some, of course, I could barely find enough. It was just a small cut and an experiment on myself, but I love the idea of keeping them in waxed paper just in case.
I remember the kid who had his leg or arm torn off by a gator down south who used cobwebs to stanch the bleeding until help could arrive. Gutsy kid. He was the one who told everyone, including his mom, that if they were going to cry they had to do it outside his room. NO crying allowed. I hope he is doing well.
Nowski
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You do need a hemostatic agent, a compression bandage,
and a good tourniquet, in your blow out kit, and Quick Clot
does work, and has been proven in combat.
However, as a Wilderness EMT, I would rather use
Celox Z-Fold Hemostatic Gauze.
It is the better hemostatic agent, out there right now.
Going over my medical kit now, and getting ready to order
a tourniquet & EMT shear holder, that should fit on one side
of my medical kit. Most of the combo shear and tourniquet
holders are too bulky, and not readily accessible for single
handed usage. You have to be able to fix yourself,
especially in regards to properly applying a tourniquet.
Get your medical kits ready, and sign up for an EMT class.
The days of incredible carnage in the ZUSA, are fast approaching,
and Walmart knows this, and is stocking for it.
If my physical body will allow me, I am looking at getting into
a TCCC (Tactical Combat Casualty Care) class in March.
Lots to learn. Must know how to fix up bullet wounds.
Please be safe everyone.
Regards to all.
Nowski
and a good tourniquet, in your blow out kit, and Quick Clot
does work, and has been proven in combat.
However, as a Wilderness EMT, I would rather use
Celox Z-Fold Hemostatic Gauze.
It is the better hemostatic agent, out there right now.
Going over my medical kit now, and getting ready to order
a tourniquet & EMT shear holder, that should fit on one side
of my medical kit. Most of the combo shear and tourniquet
holders are too bulky, and not readily accessible for single
handed usage. You have to be able to fix yourself,
especially in regards to properly applying a tourniquet.
Get your medical kits ready, and sign up for an EMT class.
The days of incredible carnage in the ZUSA, are fast approaching,
and Walmart knows this, and is stocking for it.
If my physical body will allow me, I am looking at getting into
a TCCC (Tactical Combat Casualty Care) class in March.
Lots to learn. Must know how to fix up bullet wounds.
Please be safe everyone.
Regards to all.
Nowski
Woah! Thank you for that information. Amazing.
DazedandConfused
Veteran Member
Cob webs for bleed control ..Learn something new everyday here.
I keep two tourniquets in my kit. one in my blowout kit and another on my plate carrier where I can reach with either hand. Need too add another. I also have two Israeli bandages that can double as tourniquets .
I keep two tourniquets in my kit. one in my blowout kit and another on my plate carrier where I can reach with either hand. Need too add another. I also have two Israeli bandages that can double as tourniquets .
Creedmoor
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My wife is the natural herbs, oils, tinctures, compress, etc medic around here. I’m for sure letting her know about that. Thanks!
Henry Bowman
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Love quick clot. I carry it in my Get Home bag, keep it in 3 different first aid kits at home and I have it my hunting vest.
One in the hunting vest came in VERY handy this past small game season, luckily not for me or my dog but another hunters dog that got all ripped up by barbed wire, torn his leg and paw up but good.
Got the quick clot on it for him and the bleeding stopped in less than 30 seconds.
Ran into them a few weeks later and he had a 1st aid kit AND quick clot in his vest...a true life saver.
One in the hunting vest came in VERY handy this past small game season, luckily not for me or my dog but another hunters dog that got all ripped up by barbed wire, torn his leg and paw up but good.
Got the quick clot on it for him and the bleeding stopped in less than 30 seconds.
Ran into them a few weeks later and he had a 1st aid kit AND quick clot in his vest...a true life saver.
eXe
Techno Junkie
While I have far better hemostatic gauze and quick clot, this stuff was in the right place at the right time when I ended up giving myself a nice cut across my finger with a VERY sharp knife. Probably should have gone to the ER and got stiches but just kept my cool, washed up the finger tip area as best as I could, and used this stuff from Walmart to stop the bleeding, I had actually just picked it up to do a quick review on it. It worked, got hot stung a bit but it worked. Ended up using crazy glue to close the wound. All in all 3 years later all you can see is a faint line where the cut was across my finger tip.
These are usually on the shelf at Academy.
dioptase
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I keep Quik Clot in my hiking first aid kit.
On one hike, trying to go over a downed tree trunk (no other choice, long story) I ended up snagging open a varicose vein. Omg the blood! I fumbled the backpack off, dug down to the bottom for the first aid kit, Quik Clot FTW. That was the first time I ever used it (I had learned about it from this forum, so thanks for inspiring me to pack it), and I won't hike without it since.
On one hike, trying to go over a downed tree trunk (no other choice, long story) I ended up snagging open a varicose vein. Omg the blood! I fumbled the backpack off, dug down to the bottom for the first aid kit, Quik Clot FTW. That was the first time I ever used it (I had learned about it from this forum, so thanks for inspiring me to pack it), and I won't hike without it since.
Mary Contrary
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Yeah, when i cut and fractured my knee over 35 yrs ago they numbed me and i didn't feel any pain, but i could feel them "scrubbing away" at the wound!!! I didn't look, but they scrubbed real good!
Knoxville's Joker
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Superglue is also a good thing to have to glue skin back together after you clean the wound out as well. Cyanocryolyte is a wonderous compound and a pain when it coats your finger tips...
DazedandConfused
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Duck tape is another good thing to have around for closing cuts .
For those of you with FSA and HSA accounts and debit cards Amazon list all items that are FSA and HSA eligible. Med kits, bloodstopper trauma kits, 4x4s, roll graze etc etc. Some medical devices as well as prenatal vitamins and Advil. If you are like me and rarely go to the doc and your HSA account is building you can use it to stock up on basics.
Smaller first aid kits that are covered could make some handy barter items.
Some of the trauma kits with blood stoppers are covered under HSA and FSA. If you purchase from Amazon just add your FSA or HSA card number at check out. I usually don’t buy from Amazon but for this it’s pretty easy.
Smaller first aid kits that are covered could make some handy barter items.
Some of the trauma kits with blood stoppers are covered under HSA and FSA. If you purchase from Amazon just add your FSA or HSA card number at check out. I usually don’t buy from Amazon but for this it’s pretty easy.
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That's only half of the shop first aid kit.
You need some red shop rags too...clean is preferable, but not always the case.
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Do not use it for hair gel. Or KY.
Ok, your post triggered a thought, but I'm not ragging on you personally, ok?! But...Corn starch. maxi pad and duct tape..
Cornstarch, red pepper or any one of a thousand other substances have been used to try to stop bleeding... and I've personally seen most of them! The Amish have a bad combination of creativity and dimly remembered old wives tales, and absolutely no reluctance to try all of it.
MOST OF IT DOESN'T HELP. What ends up working is the pressure applied either manually or by taping or wrapping a padded bandage over the cut.
But it ALL has to be scrubbed before the wound can be closed... and some things actually cause severe tissue damage. I was called to see a horse this summer who had severely lacerated her shoulder on a gate... it was to the bone, with severed muscles, and of course, it bled pretty bad. I started cleaning it out to assess the damage, and found the entire wound had thick, black crusts throughout. The owner then explained that he'd "gotten nervous" at the bleeding, so had packed hydrated lime into the mess! OMG... the exothermic reaction caused by the moisture in the wound burned every surface it touched. I spent over two hours cutting out all the burned tissue *before* i could even start to repair it. And of course, it developed an awful infection, from all the dead tissue.
99% of bleeding can be stopped with direct pressure. Quick Clot, etc, can be lifesaving where there is a deep wound with severe bleeding where you can't hold pressure or apply a tourniquet. But if you have a choice, don't apply anything that isn't designed to be used in a wound.
Summerthyme
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Are the Amish inbred? Like muslims? 85 on a good day?
As far as cleaning out wounds I added these to my med kits https://www.amazon.com/TecUnite-Dis...id=1613928628&sprefix=dental+s,aps,220&sr=8-3. Figure they can be loaded with a soapy water to help flush out debris.
No.... although they certainly do have inbreeding problems. But from my observations, they fit the srandard bell curve pretty well... i know some very intelligent men, and some who definitely are a bit challenged.
Their main issue is a lack of any sort of science education (except for the very basics). Without some knowledge, they lack discernment, and are easy targets for every shyster and salesman.
I just spent an afternoon with a neighbor who does a lot of their medical care.. we ordered a stack of books from Abebooks.com. I wanted him to have some good basics on MODERN healthcare... hus reading material tends to be from those "101 ways to perfect health with apple cider vinegar" type books...
Summerthyme
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Amish have a few problems like most everyone else.
The Amish are very smart business people. They make excellent furniture.
There's a huge Amish furniture store in Harmony, Minnesota. They drive to Amish furniture
makers in the Pennsylvania and Ohio area. From what i've been told, each Amish
family excels at one piece/type of furniture. So there are many stops for this MN
store to make in collecting everything they need.
A couple of days ago, when i checked out at an Amish country store,
my bill was $139.66. I laid $140.66 on the counter. She gave me one dollar back.
This might seem simple to most people, but in many stores, when I use cash, and have
some change in my pocket, I'm trying to avoid receiving more change back, but it confuses many
young cashiers.
Amish are interesting. They pay little or no attention to current events. Hire van drivers to
take them out shopping and for meals. Some local stores in town have post for tying a horse.
Some have phones on the back side of their barns and others hide cell phones.
The young people are well known for their beer parties. Our county deputies
take complaints on these beer parties. I haven't personally seen it, but it's kind of funny hearing about the
young Amish making a get away on a horse and buggy.
They own lots of farm ground, but mostly rent it out.
Sometimes I wonder if the old Amish ways are very slowly slipping away.
ioujc
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Thank YOU!!! That I can definitely use! I have lots of it in my "remedies" garden.
Just a note. I have read and heard that cayenne pepper powder will stop bleeding too. I had a nephew of a friend helping move some stuff several years ago and he cut himself badly on the palm of his hand. We tried several things, pressure, ice, compression and nothing was working.....He was a manly young man and when I asked him if he wanted to try cayenne pepper or the ER, he said "Go with the pepper."
I dumped a very large pile of it on his hand and the blood was slowed, but it took several dumps and about 45 minutes to get it to stop. So, it does work>>>>eventually; however you should also note that he said "It burned like HELL!!" But the wound, which was actually a "flap" of skin that was on his palm healed in record time and he had no further issues with it>>>no infection, no other pain and was well very quickly. It also left no scar of any kind and he had no issues with stiffness or shrinkage of the healed tissue.
I thought that was interesting>>>>but nothing I had ever read or heard mentioned that it burned, although logically it would probably do so.
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I would likely get the change pushed back or not taken, and a quarter, nickel and four pennies returned.
Marie
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Yep capisen is good for stopping infections. Even for internal respiratory it helps draw out the sickness.