Ill Imm Probationary right to work for illegal immigrants

[FarmerJohn]

I noticed in the 9/1/14 issue Time Magazine's interview with Paul Ryan, Republican Congressman and probable presidential candidate in 2016, that he's now endorsing a probationary job permit plan for illegal aliens. It seems very like those of prominent Democrats.

Time has a paywall so I can't paste in the quote.

 

[forfreedom]

I'm mixed on this issue. I watched a VICE video about milking jobs on the farm in NY state where they could not find any American to do this job for $9-11/hr. You get pooped on, cows kick you, and you have to clean stinking floors all night (that was a night shift). For situations like that I'm OK with work visas. But the farmer has to prove that he advertised in local paper or craigslist, and no one replied, for a period of time.

 

[Virtualco]

I'm mixed on this issue. I watched a VICE video about milking jobs on the farm in NY state where they could not find any American to do this job for $9-11/hr. You get pooped on, cows kick you, and you have to clean stinking floors all night (that was a night shift). For situations like that I'm OK with work visas. But the farmer has to prove that he advertised in local paper or craigslist, and no one replied, for a period of time.

I'm ok with this...

 

[MinnesotaSmith]

I'm mixed on this issue. I watched a VICE video about milking jobs on the farm in NY state where they could not find any American to do this job for $9-11/hr. You get pooped on, cows kick you, and you have to clean stinking floors all night (that was a night shift). For situations like that I'm OK with work visas. But the farmer has to prove that he advertised in local paper or craigslist, and no one replied, for a period of time.

So double the per hour. I think we could replace the work immigration biz in it's entirety with this: some employer comes in whining he can't get employees at X wage rate. Instead of a permit to bring in foreign-born invaders, instead he gets an estimate of how much he has to raise wages by to get workers. (Letting employees keep their entire paychecks, including employer mandatory contributions, would make this far less painful to do.)

 

[Publius]

If they are here illegally they have no right to anything but a quick deportation.

 

[mikeabn]

If they are here illegally they have no right to anything but a quick deportation.

After gender reassignment surgery of course.

 

[Griz3752]

How does an illegal alien get presented with any sort of rights let alone a "Probationary right to work"?

I came here for holidays (snow birding, really - sick of shoveling snow) and when my now-wife & I decided to get married, I put together a document package (driver's abstract, criminal record search results, divorce paper etc etc - anything I could think of and could get a piece of Govt. letterhead to support) and attached it all to my application.

PITA? Hell yeah but why wouldn't it be difficult? And tedious? That said, a few months and some fees - got a lawyer - et voila: visa and perfectly legal to carry on business etc like a born here or naturalised citizen.

If you want something, one way or another there is always associated costs and work to be done. The more desirable, the more work.

People who want to door crash and then take up residence, uninvited and un-vetted, used to be scooped up and returned home. Now, courtesy a long line of SJW Politicians & civil servants, the US has a changing face and not for the better.

An outsider's viewpoint; ignore if you see fit.