GOV/MIL President Trump and Marco Rubio meeting at Camp David for "better security".

Plain Jane

Just Plain Jane

The Principals Outline Current Status of Law & Order Enforcement and Purpose of New Camp David Security Use​


June 8, 2025 | Sundance | 104 Comments
President Trump and Secretary of State/National Security Advisor Marco Rubio depart New Jersey en route to Camp David for a principals group meeting, discussion and strategy session. As President Trump notes, there will be “generals, and ¹others” in attendance at Camp David, using the additional term “better security.”

On the subject of whether he would trigger the Insurrection Act to quell violence in Los Angeles, President Trump replied, “that depends on if there’s an insurrection.” lol President Trump said he and his team are watching the events closely, but they will not permit law enforcement to be harmed in any way. Violence will not be tolerated.

President Trump then asked the assembled pool if they had any questions for Marco Rubio, they did not – so the duo left. WATCH: R/T 5:04

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¹Crazy impossible thought… what if, Putin or similar (Iran/Gaza?). Nah,.. crazy thought. Nuts. It’s all just coincidental alignments of stuff. No way. Ignore my rambling.

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Plain Jane

Just Plain Jane

President Trump and Marco Rubio Head to Camp David​


June 8, 2025 | Sundance | 71 Comments
The implication of the remark, as President Trump says, “a better security” venue, is that something of much greater significance than traditional White House operations is in need of attention. To such a degree, that prior strategic discussion arrangements are not considered “secure enough.”

President Trump does not like Camp David.

Before taking office, President Trump once told a German journalist in an interview, “Camp David is very rustic, it’s nice, you’d like it. You know how long you’d like it? For about 30 minutes.”

So, the big picture questions become:

What issue would be of such importance, that changing the venue would be needed in order to address it?

What issue(s) has DC interests so aligned, that Rubio and Trump are two of a very small group on the other side of it?

I suspect this is about Iran.



Last Wednesday, June 4th:​





Put the datapoints together and my speculation is… The terms of an Iran agreement not to generate or build nuclear weapons comes down to the issue of verification. In the verification aspect, perhaps, just perhaps, a Russian inspection regime could be negotiated in the deal. Vladimir Putin agrees to utilize Russian scientists as the verification component of a nuclear agreement between the USA and Iran.

That type of agreement would necessitate a pitch to U.S/Israeli advocates (congress and others) that a joint verification group of Russian and USA nuclear inspectors would audit and verify compliance with the terms. The unspoken details would likely include Russia as the lead, in order to gain support from Iran, but that would be a matter of executive level discussion.

Obviously, Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli government, the Israeli lobby in the USA and AIPAC beneficiaries in congress, would collectively go bananas.

It’s just a guess; pure speculation on my part, but something like this seems quite possible if you followed closely.

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Housecarl

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"Camp David" plays better than "Mt Weather" or "Raven Rock"....

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WalknTrot

Veteran Member
I suspect they didn't want prying eyes watching who was showing up for the weekend meetings. That's POTUS prerogative, and good for him on that decision.

Camp David is a lot more controllable access and less easily observed than anywhere in DC, yet everything is there in place for Trump to run the country - securely and remotely. Whatever improvements have been made, Mar-a-Lago is way too public, small, and limited technology-wise.
 

Plain Jane

Just Plain Jane
I've been wondering if it has something to do with it. DJT can trust Tulsi Gabbard but it's the rest of the silo that's a problem.

From June 6


DNI Tulsi Gabbard Targeted for Operating Outside DC Silo Rules – ICIG Office Compromised

June 6, 2025 | Sundance | 294 Comments
As we have watched things unfold, we have noticed that Tulsi Gabbard and Marco Rubio seem to be the most effective at delivering results despite the efforts of the entrenched control mechanisms of the deep state intelligence community. Actions speak louder than words, and while the words of many are strong, it is the actions of Gabbard and Rubio that show focus.

Previously Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard removed the National Intelligence Council from the CIA and removed the heads. In the latest development, the intelligence apparatus is in a state of apoplexy because DNI Gabbard has experienced the politicization of the Intelligence Community Inspector General’s network (ICIG), and she is now taking bold actions around the silo control mechanism.


Before getting to the substance, it is worth reminding everyone of clear politicization within the ICIG when Michael Atkinson changed the CIA whistleblower rules in order to facilitate a false accusation against President Trump using CIA operative Eric Ciaramella and Alexander Vindman. Atkinson worked with his former boss in the DOJ, Mary McCord, to frame the construct of an impeachment against President Trump.

Also remember, Atkinson’s testimony to the House impeachment committee was sealed and classified by co-chairs Adam Schiff and Jerry Nadler who were part of the framing. That transcript has NEVER been released.

In the latest development, DNI Tulsi Gabbard has installed a key ally, Dennis Kirk, into the ICIG apparatus. Kirk is in place to monitor the political operations of the Intelligence Community and report to DNI Gabbard so that she can eliminate the bad actors. To say the Deep State IC embeds are apoplectic would be an understatement. The Inspector General system within the Intelligence Community is a critical control mechanism for politicization of intelligence.

The leaks to the media are to the Washington Post, because this core part of the IC is a CIA element. The CIA uses the Washington Post as their public relations and narrative distribution network.

WASHINGTON POST – Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard installed one of her top advisers to a position within the office of the inspector general of the intelligence community, according to two U.S. officials familiar with the matter. The move potentially compromises the integrity of the independent watchdog office while it is investigating the use of the Signal messaging app by top government officials to discuss classified details of a pending U.S. military strike against the Houthis in March.

The adviser, Dennis Kirk, was placed within the watchdog office on May 9, but reports to the DNI, according to one of the officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the matter’s sensitivity.

Rep. Stephen F. Lynch (D-Massachusetts), the leading Democrat on the House Oversight Committee, sent a letter to acting intelligence community inspector general Tamara A. Johnson on Thursday, demanding information about the appointment of Kirk, who was an adviser in the Office of Personnel Management during President Donald Trump’s first term and co-author of a Project 2025 chapter on the federal workforce.

Lynch said the Oversight Committee was informed of the appointment by the Council of the Inspectors General on Integrity and Efficiency (CIGIE), a group made up of government watchdogs.

In a statement to The Washington Post, Gabbard’s press secretary, Olivia Coleman, accused the intelligence community inspector general of failing to fulfill “the responsibility to be an independent organization unbeholden to partisan interests.”

Coleman said that Kirk was assigned to the watchdog office as part of the transition team and found “evidence of overwhelming and intentional politicization by the current IC IG team.”

The office’s leadership, she said, has “bucked President Trump’s directives” regarding diversity, equity and inclusion, “slow-walked responses to Congressional Republicans while prioritizing responding to Democrats, abused taxpayer dollars for personal purposes, and created a workplace environment filled with politically motivated action,” she said. “This is unacceptable on all fronts, and the DNI is taking action to ensure the IG office is focused on fulfilling its mission.”

[…] “The purported appointment of the IC IG ‘senior adviser’ heightens existing concerns about politicization and improper conduct at ODNI, including the subordination of competence and accountability at the agency to political fealty to President Trump,” Lynch wrote.

[…] The intelligence community inspector general was set up by statute in 2010 to provide independent oversight over the now 18 agencies in the intelligence community. (read more)

Pay attention to when the ICIG office was constructed, 2010!

Barack Obama took office in January 2009, with the House and Senate fully controlled by Democrats (60 Senators) throughout 2009 and 2010. The establishment of the ICIG was part of the construct for the Fourth Branch of Govt.

Current DNI Tulsi Gabbard is working through a process to deal with the IC weaponization legacy we have discussed on these pages for quite some time. Again, one of the few cabinet officials actually confronting the constructs within the Deep State.

Keep watching.

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WalknTrot

Veteran Member
wonder if Camp David had to go into a high gear prep for this unexpected last minute Trump meeting >>> been years and years since any Prez used it - Prez Trump might have been the last back in 2017-18 - don't remember Biden ever setting a foot there .....
Thing is, the staff of Camp David has to be ready to shelter the Prez, family and hanger's-on 24/7/365 at a moment's notice. Haha. Not a bad gig if you can get it. Has to be an awesome place to work.

I'm wondering if it isn't something oblique to the immediate media focus, having to do with Russia/Ukraine. Or Iran.
 

Publius

On TB every waking moment
I have been in and around that area and Seems Camp David is a little more north of Thurmont the whole area around Thurmont is woods. Mr Trump is a city boy wants buildings with brick, marble and granite and does not like rustic or campy.
 

CTFIREBATTCHIEF

Veteran Member
It would be tough to secure Mar-a-Lago as well as DC if there are, shall we say, enhanced rioting opportunites coming our way over the next few days.

Camp David? I don't think anyone is getting anywhere near that without getting their hides ventilated. Not to mention there are quite a few other "hidey holes" in the general vicinity. In my humble opinion, the Boss decided to go there for a reason. As for the wife and myself, we're still enroute home, Minneapolis is quiet, at least the airport is, will be in Detroit in a few hours for the next layover.
 

Blinker

Senior Member
It would be tough to secure Mar-a-Lago as well as DC if there are, shall we say, enhanced rioting opportunites coming our way over the next few days.

Camp David? I don't think anyone is getting anywhere near that without getting their hides ventilated. Not to mention there are quite a few other "hidey holes" in the general vicinity. In my humble opinion, the Boss decided to go there for a reason. As for the wife and myself, we're still enroute home, Minneapolis is quiet, at least the airport is, will be in Detroit in a few hours for the next layover.
 

Cowgirl4christ

Senior Member
Camp David is connected by a 6 1/2 mile tunnel to the Raven Rock/ Site R Mountain (bunker) Complex across the Mason Dixon Line in Pennsylvania.

That site is hysterical. At first I was like, there is zero way they give tours. And it took me a few secs to. But read the fine print. It’s hysterical.
 

Blinker

Senior Member
That site is hysterical. At first I was like, there is zero way they give tours. And it took me a few secs to. But read the fine print. It’s hysterical.
Thanks for catching that fine print about it being a parody! They sure put a lot work into it. It caught my eye because of the tunnel part about which I had read something some years ago.

I would hope that the author who wrote a book about Ravid Rock did his research.

 

AlfaMan

We're all Devo!
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Camp David is connected by a 6 1/2 mile tunnel to the Raven Rock/ Site R Mountain (bunker) Complex across the Mason Dixon Line in Pennsylvania.

No it isn't.

If you look at the bottom of your web link, you'll find it's a parody website. A pretty good one but still a parody.

If you had pics of the inside of Site R and posted them on the web, it would be pulled down immediately. And men in dark suits and equally dark sunglasses would come visit you.
And do unspeakable things to you with a fork.
:)

Some of the pics on the site are of another facility relatively close by, however.
 

AlfaMan

We're all Devo!
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wonder if Camp David had to go into a high gear prep for this unexpected last minute Trump meeting >>> been years and years since any Prez used it - Prez Trump might have been the last back in 2017-18 - don't remember Biden ever setting a foot there .....
Yes. Lots of logistical moves in a very short time.

The place is kept in ready status, but getting the right people there, food, etc takes a little time.

Like, within 8 hours or so.
 

AlfaMan

We're all Devo!
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Do you have any guesses of why they were there?
Plain Jane is correct, it was for "better security" . Part of it is from the fun and games vis a vis Russia and Ukraine. Part of it is to get away from DC, because of the anti ICE protests starting up (one going on as we speak). Also because of the military parade coming up June 14th.
Also in the back of my addled little brain is the country of Iran. I have a sneaking suspicion something has changed in the Iranian nuclear program, and the US (and Russia for that matter) are going to ground just in case.
Just some thoughts, your mileage may vary.
 

Old Gray Mare

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Yes. Lots of logistical moves in a very short time.

The place is kept in ready status, but getting the right people there, food, etc takes a little time.

Like, within 8 hours or so.
Remember hearing stories and descriptions of Camp David from back in the day. Can not imagine PDT, used to Mara Lago, Trump Towers etc. spending much time in a rustic camp. That alone might be incentive to hustle negotiations and get out of there.
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night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
They could always go use some of the still cleared parts of the Greenbrier if he's got issues with the rusticity...

I have been seriously amused by the TV dog n pony shows "proving" that the conference center is JUST a cool semi-historical Conference Center.

It's all the door that they DON'T let the cameras go through....
 

Luddite

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Prufrock2 reportedly could do a mile per week. Prufrock3 was predicted to do several miles per day. Wikipedia claims it was only getting 120 feet per day last year.

I don't always trust Wikipedia. There's plenty of stuff hiding in plain sight if we are paying attention.

Not familiar with "The Boring Company" or Prufrock? Maybe that's by design.

Not nearly as sexy as SpaceX...
 

Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
Prufrock2 reportedly could do a mile per week. Prufrock3 was predicted to do several miles per day. Wikipedia claims it was only getting 120 feet per day last year.

I don't always trust Wikipedia. There's plenty of stuff hiding in plain sight if we are paying attention.

Not familiar with "The Boring Company" or Prufrock? Maybe that's by design.

Not nearly as sexy as SpaceX...

 
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