Powdered milk

Taz

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I am having a hard time finding milk vacum packed in #10 cans. I ordered from Mountain Brook Foods and received a confirmation telling me it should arrive in about 10 days. About 5 days later I received an email saying they were out of milk and didn't have any idea when they would get any more. I don't want to order a family pack, just milk. Soooooooooo, what if I buy ordinary dry milk off the grocery shelf and vacum pack into pt jars? Anyone done this...like for y2k and is it still good. Actually be a lot cheaper.

Taz
 

Annie

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Taz, I opened some I had packed in glass in 99 and kept cool... after 6 years, it was still perfect, and not vacuum packed. It was just stuff off the shelf in the big box.

Keep some of each. If you pack the stuff in the cardboard box into canning jars, it'll last a while. In the meantime, place an order for the #10 cans.
 

Mrs Smith

Membership Revoked
For those who have purchased powdered milk, have you done any comparisons on which brands taste best?

I'd like to buy more milk too, but don't want to waste money on stuff that the tongue rejects.
 

A.T.Hagan

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Taz,

I am just now using up the instant non-fat dry milk I vacuum packed in glass canning jars back in 1999. Been in my dark, but room temperature storage cabinets all this time. I can't tell any difference between the old stuff and a box that I just bought. Packing it like that is my preferred method for keeping dry milk.

.....Alan.
 

Mrs Smith

Membership Revoked
But how does it taste?

Taz, I've purchased from Emergency Essentials, but haven't open any of the cans yet. They were quick in delivery, and had everything that I wanted in-stock.
 

Cardinal

Chickministrator
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BB, I have read on other sites (but not yet tried it) that adding a couple of tablespoons of instant vanilla pudding mix can make any powdered mil palatable.
FWIW.
 

Taz

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Thanks guys....I have a case from Emergency Essentials from y2k. Never opened. I have a few boxes of individual servings in sealed foil from WalMart but they don't seem to carry it any more. Last time I checked EE was out of it. But now that I know its good in glass jars that takes care of my problem.

Another question....Nestles has whole milk powdered in smaller cans and with the influx of Mexicans one can buy it most anywheres with a little searching. Its made in Mexico. I have about 5 cans of that in my freezer as I am afraid it would go rancid. Has anyone stored this at room temp for any length of time? It is really my prefered milk and I use it in my bread. Thanks for the info.....there is always something to learn re prepping no matter how long you have been doing it.

Taz
 

The Cub

Behold, I am coming soon.
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I purchased (and still have) powdered milk and condensed milk in cans....but...

I have found something much better and does not require refridgeration (maybe after opening ???).....that is RICE MILK.

It is excellent! You can find it in cartons in the health food section of Krogers or at Whole Foods.....or at your nearest health food store.

I prefer it to milk!
 

A.T.Hagan

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Taz said:
Another question....Nestles has whole milk powdered in smaller cans and with the influx of Mexicans one can buy it most anywheres with a little searching. Its made in Mexico. I have about 5 cans of that in my freezer as I am afraid it would go rancid. Has anyone stored this at room temp for any length of time? It is really my prefered milk and I use it in my bread. Thanks for the info.....there is always something to learn re prepping no matter how long you have been doing it.

Taz
Klim or Nedo?

I've gotten a year and a half from each in their original unopened cans in my cabinets. Haven't tried keeping it longer than that. The whole milk powder is very high in fat so it is naturally not going to keep as long at room temperature.

.....Alan.
 

ferret

Membership Revoked
Shep said:
I've ordered from Emergency Essentials before. They carry milk in #10 cans.

So does the Country Kitchen but I think your way of buying and repackaging may be cheaper.

Have you tried the local Mormon storehouse? They sell it and you can dry pack can the milk right at the store.
 

ofuzzy1

Just Visiting
I've bought some powdered milk recently.
It would 'clabber' together upon wetting -- it's very fine powder.

Have the same problem with d.milk from tova/internet grocer.

The only milk we have that does not clabber up is from american harvest, but they've long gone out of business -- their product looks larger puffs when dry and smoothely mixes.
 

A.T.Hagan

Inactive
If the dry milk is in the form of a fine powder it is mostly likely the NON-instant type. It can still be reconstituted, but it takes a bit more effort. Use warm water and either a blender or a wire whisk and you should be able to get it to dissolve smoothly.

The instant form of dry milk is usually in the form a granular powder.

.....Alan.
 

Walrus Whisperer

Hope in chains...
Sanalac was the best that I ever had(And I dont like milk, but you have to put something on your cereal)-Haven't seen it in years, 'tho. You have to let it sit for 8 hrs or so for it to bloom-thats their directions.
 

TerriHaute

Hoosier Gardener
Walrus Whisperer said:
Sanalac was the best that I ever had(And I dont like milk, but you have to put something on your cereal)-Haven't seen it in years, 'tho. You have to let it sit for 8 hrs or so for it to bloom-thats their directions.
I can still get Sanalac here locally, though only at the independent grocery store, not any of the chains. I like it because it comes in a round box like oatmeal and has a resealable plastic lid....a better fit in my pantry. Don't really have an opinion on its taste as I use it solely for baking.

Terri in Indiana
 

atropa

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The Cub said:
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I purchased (and still have) powdered milk and condensed milk in cans....but...

I have found something much better and does not require refridgeration (maybe after opening ???).....that is RICE MILK.

It is excellent! You can find it in cartons in the health food section of Krogers or at Whole Foods.....or at your nearest health food store.

I prefer it to milk!

I hadn't thought of stocking some rice milk. It is excellent.
 

Taz

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Well...I am going to buy 50# from Honeyvillegrains.com and put into half gallon jars and vacum seal. They have several kinds of milk to choose from. They are such wonderful people to deal with and no matter the weight, its $4.95 shipping per order, be it one can or a train load. And I have NEVER seen grain, rice or beans that are so nice and clean. That is due to the fact that their major business is with commercial companies like Frito-Lay.

Taz...who is shopping for the cheapest deal on buckets/gamma lids.
 

SmithJ

Veteran Member
Has anyone had problems sealing instant milk or instant potatoes in jars with a food saver. I think someone said something about using a coffee filter but I didn't understand that? Or does it matter since these are more granular than powdered?
 

A.T.Hagan

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Really fine powdery foods can be a pain in the behind to vacuum seal.

There are several things you can do to improve your chances of achieving and keeping a good seal though.

First, heat your lids. Bring some water to a boil, <i>remove from the heat</i>, then drop the lids into the water and allow them to soak for a few minutes.

Fill your jars with whatever powdery foods you are going to be sealing. Shake the jars down well to settle the contents as much as possible. Leave at least a full inch of headspace and sometimes you may need to leave an inch and a half.

Using a damp cloth or paper towel carefully wipe away any powder that has clung to the inside of the jar throat for about an inch down. The further away the powder is from the lid the less likely it will be to get sucked into the seal. Take a lid out of the hot water, wipe dry, then put it on while still warm.

Vacuum seal as per the usual for your sealer. Try not to shake the jar while you are doing this.

As a means of helping to protect your vacuum sealer from having any of the powder sucked into the pump (very bad) line the inside of the jar sealer adapter with a doubled piece of paper toweling or coffee filter. This way any powder that may be sucked out of the jar is likely to be trapped by the paper before being sucked into the vacuum line. You want to completely cover the inside of the top of the jar sealer adapter.

Occasionally you're going to get a jar that just won't seal. I get them myself. The first thing I'll do is rewipe the inside of the jar neck and the top of the glass where the lid comes into contact with it. Then I'll use a fresh lid straight out of the water (wipe it dry first then put it on hot). If that still doesn't work try changing jars. Every once in a great while I get a jar that simply won't seal no matter what I put in it.

.....Alan.
 

Satanta

Stone Cold Crazy
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The Cub said:
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.....that is RICE MILK.


There is no such thing as rice milk. It doesn't exist

What you have there is clever advertising. Marketing to make people feel better.

It's for people that-for whatever reason...maybe lactose intollerance. Maybe vegetablism, some bad experience as a child- daddy tried breast feeding...for whatever reason they don't want it from the spout.

So someone came up with something that is NOT milk-looks kinda like milk...if you turn off the lights. Tastes like not even close to milk. But they CALL it milk.
Here's the secret of the universe for you. Ready? This is going to changed everything you ever thought or dreamt about food and preps.

That stuff in the carton that you pay as much for as real milk because they call it 'Rice Milk' or 'Soy Milk". It's not milk it's juice.

You are paying $3 a quart for rice juice.

Same stuff ya get whenya cook rice but have water left over....only they don't pour it down the drain. They put it in boxes and sell it to you.

Soy Milk. Soy Juice. It's the same thing. Some restraunt soakes beans for side dishes and they sell you the soak water after they are done.

'Here ya go ma'am- enjoy your $8 a gallon Soy Juice!"

;)
 

BV141

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Contact Emergency Essentials for dehydrated (nonfat) milk. They have and advertise it.

Beready.com

bv
 

ofuzzy1

Just Visiting
Taz:

1. I bought the d.milk from honeyville ant that is the stuff that does not mix well. It is great for cooking but warm or cold water it still clabbers [clumps] together. be VERY SPECIFIC WITH THEM you want it for drinking, and I'm sure they will send ou the correct stuff. I've got nothing but praise for them, I just ordered the wrong stuff.

2. 5 gallon buckets? visit this link. see my post #16
http://70.97.123.22/vb/showthread.php?t=170415
 

Hansa44

Justine Case
Satanta said:
There is no such thing as rice milk. It doesn't exist

What you have there is clever advertising. Marketing to make people feel better.

It's for people that-for whatever reason...maybe lactose intollerance. Maybe vegetablism, some bad experience as a child- daddy tried breast feeding...for whatever reason they don't want it from the spout.

So someone came up with something that is NOT milk-looks kinda like milk...if you turn off the lights. Tastes like not even close to milk. But they CALL it milk.
Here's the secret of the universe for you. Ready? This is going to changed everything you ever thought or dreamt about food and preps.

That stuff in the carton that you pay as much for as real milk because they call it 'Rice Milk' or 'Soy Milk". It's not milk it's juice.

You are paying $3 a quart for rice juice.

Same stuff ya get whenya cook rice but have water left over....only they don't pour it down the drain. They put it in boxes and sell it to you.

Soy Milk. Soy Juice. It's the same thing. Some restraunt soakes beans for side dishes and they sell you the soak water after they are done.

'Here ya go ma'am- enjoy your $8 a gallon Soy Juice!"

;)



Thanks Sat. This stuff never even occurred to me. After reading it, I figure we could cook are own rice in lots of water, strain it and can it and have a fortune in rice juice for pennies a quart.
 

chickenrancher

Veteran Member
I've heard Morning Moo is great but not sure if it is actually a milk product. I'm hoping to have plenty of cocoa to make it palatable, as my family is very picky. Would rather just get a couple of goats, but hubby doesn't agree...yet.

cr
 

John H

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We've bought the ordinary powdered skim milk in the plastic bags at the grocery store and just stored it that way. It's downstairs, so 45 degrees in the winter and maybe as high as 75 - 80 degrees in the summer.

Used some as old as 3 years and it is fine.

If you are adding it to water and you get some lumps on top, just crush them, stir it a bit and put the milk in the fridge for a few hours or overnight and the lumps are gone.

Once you make the skim milk, it will keep ok up to 10 days, if kept in the fridge in a jar or plastic jug with a closed lid.

John H
 

Satanta

Stone Cold Crazy
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chickenrancher said:
my family is very picky.

Real hunger would cure that.

$2500 Give them to me and and in two months they will eat anything you put in front of them.
 
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