Vee vere chust following zee orders . . . . .
INSANITY Police Raid Church’s Drive-In Service, Issue $500 Tickets to Entire Congregation
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Vee vere chust following zee orders . . . . .
Everyone should plead "not guilty" and refuse to pay if found guilty. Tell mista maya that they'll all go to jail. They can keep them until the maya is tired of feeding them. Don't miss their med scripts maya.
Bps1691
Veteran Member
IF there was no physical contact between the pastor and those in their cars listening to him on their radios, there was almost zero risk of transfer of the virus.
In fact the "risk" was introduced to the attendees when officers of the law violated the "space" of the attendees. As noted several times above- by forcing them to roll down their windows to speak to officers, handling and returning their license, preparing and handing them tickets to sign, giving them their copy of the ticket was the sol risk involved.
This act by the mayor and the police is a stupid act of "because I can". A color of law violation! But that is nothing new in this country.
Here's the article on this from the Delta Democrat Times paper.
It doesn't show any outrage by the writer and there are no comments for it. It is basically an outline of the facts of the instance in broad terms.
www.ddtonline.com
Here's a type of follow-on blurb from the DELTANEWS.TV site. It has some information about a conference call meeting of various pastors in the area over the actions of the police. It also shows no outrage and there are no comments for it as well.
www.deltanews.tv
Local pastors meet to discuss the latest executive order on churches.
Pastors from First Baptist, Grace Fellowship, and St. James Episcopal Church, just to name a few were in attendance. A number of others joined by conference call.
Greenville Mayor Errick Simmons holding the meeting to make it clear that the city is NOT canceling church services but services cannot be held at the church building, to avoid gatherings.
This after the department of health has linked dozens of cases of Covid-19 being linked to in-person church services. Although not all agreed, most pastors at the meeting say they agree with the executive order as a way of protecting their congregation and slowing the spread of the virus.
Mathew Alexander, Senior pastor at Greenville First Baptist Church said he supports the mayor's efforts to protect the community.
"This is in no way canceling church, you know over the last month, we've found creative ways to get word out there to get the gospel out there to worship, been reminded that this is a reflection of how the church worshiped in the first century and home church and i think we're finding a lot of pure worship in these days and I also want to remind our people that it's biblical you know in Romans 13 to submit to our governing authorities until our governing authorities lead us to contradict the word of god and by no means is that happening right now," he said.
The meeting was called after some people were cited by police for gathering at Temple Baptist Church for drive-thru services despite the executive order. Again, No drive-thru services are allowed, and services are not allowed inside the church building.
Church service can be held over avenues like Facebook live, Zoom, teleconference calls or other online and telephone platforms.
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Here's the link to the chuch's Facebook site:
www.facebook.com
Here's the Church's notice of the service that was RAIDED by the city officers
The comments made seem very supportive.
Here's the link to video of the pastor service preached that was RAIDED by the officers of the law
View: https://www.facebook.com/103843547928611/videos/248227703038955/
In fact the "risk" was introduced to the attendees when officers of the law violated the "space" of the attendees. As noted several times above- by forcing them to roll down their windows to speak to officers, handling and returning their license, preparing and handing them tickets to sign, giving them their copy of the ticket was the sol risk involved.
This act by the mayor and the police is a stupid act of "because I can". A color of law violation! But that is nothing new in this country.
Here's the article on this from the Delta Democrat Times paper.
It doesn't show any outrage by the writer and there are no comments for it. It is basically an outline of the facts of the instance in broad terms.
Temple Baptist Church members issued $500 tickets for parking lot service | Delta Democrat-Times
The phone rang at the mayor’s office earlier this week and the voice on the line said, “We’re having church on Wednesday, no matter what.” The caller, according to Greenville Mayor Errick Simmons, claimed to be the pastor of Temple Baptist Church on Reed Road in Greenville. The parking lot of...
Here's a type of follow-on blurb from the DELTANEWS.TV site. It has some information about a conference call meeting of various pastors in the area over the actions of the police. It also shows no outrage and there are no comments for it as well.
Local Pastors Meet In Greenville
Local pastors meet to discuss the latest executive order on churches.
Local pastors meet to discuss the latest executive order on churches.
Pastors from First Baptist, Grace Fellowship, and St. James Episcopal Church, just to name a few were in attendance. A number of others joined by conference call.
Greenville Mayor Errick Simmons holding the meeting to make it clear that the city is NOT canceling church services but services cannot be held at the church building, to avoid gatherings.
This after the department of health has linked dozens of cases of Covid-19 being linked to in-person church services. Although not all agreed, most pastors at the meeting say they agree with the executive order as a way of protecting their congregation and slowing the spread of the virus.
Mathew Alexander, Senior pastor at Greenville First Baptist Church said he supports the mayor's efforts to protect the community.
"This is in no way canceling church, you know over the last month, we've found creative ways to get word out there to get the gospel out there to worship, been reminded that this is a reflection of how the church worshiped in the first century and home church and i think we're finding a lot of pure worship in these days and I also want to remind our people that it's biblical you know in Romans 13 to submit to our governing authorities until our governing authorities lead us to contradict the word of god and by no means is that happening right now," he said.
The meeting was called after some people were cited by police for gathering at Temple Baptist Church for drive-thru services despite the executive order. Again, No drive-thru services are allowed, and services are not allowed inside the church building.
Church service can be held over avenues like Facebook live, Zoom, teleconference calls or other online and telephone platforms.
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Here's the link to the chuch's Facebook site:
Temple Baptist Church-Greenville
Temple Baptist Church-Greenville. 475 likes · 10 talking about this. A growing Church for a coming Lord
www.facebook.com
Here's the Church's notice of the service that was RAIDED by the city officers
The comments made seem very supportive.
Here's the link to video of the pastor service preached that was RAIDED by the officers of the law
View: https://www.facebook.com/103843547928611/videos/248227703038955/
Fenwick Babbitt
Veteran Member
watching that video it looks like some power-hungry kneegrows went in and ticketed a bunch of old white people, kneegrows in positions of power are still low IQ kneegrows at the end of the day.
Elza
Veteran Member
Because people keep allowing it. Until they stand up and refuse en masse it will get worse.
This kind of thing just might be the match that lights the powder keg we are sitting on. CWII suddenly goes hot.
michaelteever
Deceased
This particular thread has me angrier than any other that I've viewed over the last few months. I'm at the point that anything I'd post would get me banned. 
So common sense requires me to keep my lip shut, or my fingers in this circumstance.
Bunch of dip shits and ignorant people....
Michael
So common sense requires me to keep my lip shut, or my fingers in this circumstance.
Bunch of dip shits and ignorant people....
Michael
Southside
Has No Life - Lives on TB
They aren't issuing any tickets.......
Old Greek
Veteran Member
I 100% agree - I googled the e-mail address of their police dept. and was going to let them have it, but my brain kicked in before my fingers started typing!!This particular thread has me angrier than any other that I've viewed over the last few months. I'm at the point that anything I'd post would get me banned.
So common sense requires me to keep my lip shut, or my fingers in this circumstance.
Bunch of dip shits and ignorant people....
Michael
Milkweed Host
Veteran Member
The damage has be done. Many if not most of the people attending weekly church services
are older. They grew up respecting the police uniform and now they were treated like a common
criminal.
Now, that this occurred, the parishioners may look upon their local police as being
common criminals.
BUBBAHOTEPT
Veteran Member
On the bright side, I would really like drive in theaters to come back and they could double on Sundays for services
...... Just sayin using Bluetooth and bring your own snacks
...... Just sayin using Bluetooth and bring your own snacks
Fenwick Babbitt
Veteran Member
I used to be in the Theatre supply business, drove a truck in the summers during college, the biggest issues with drive-ins right now is digital movies, its hard and very expensive for older drive-ins to replace older reel projectors with digital movie projectors all movies are now distributed electronically, no more reels in the mail anymore like the old days.On the bright side, I would really like drive in theaters to come back and they could double on Sundays for services
marsh
On TB every waking moment
Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
Samuel Adams
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Exactly.
Second Amendment fanatics (aren’t we all ?) should be directly standing up and taking notice.
At some point, soon, they need to be denied all further opportunities to take two steps, one step, even half a step back.
Let us call ASSAULT what it is and respond appropriately.
”Defend the defenseless”, anyone ?
Sicario
The Executor
"...let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:
Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching."
---Hebrews 10:24,25
No the church did not follow the rules. The original OP says - the Executive order clearly states that *ALL* in person *AND* drive-in church services are banned.
I always love it when religious people insist I follow *THEIR* rules, but then they refuse to follow anyone else's.
Some rules are bad rules. Religious laws are an excellent example of bad rules. Unfortunately if you break laws, you pay the price, as these people found out.
David Nettleton
Veteran Member
"Unfortunately if you break laws, you pay the price, as these people found out." True. However, they had the courage to defy this onerous 'rule' and sounds like they plan to continue their defiance. Kind of like the Revolutionary War with you Brits. We sent you running like scalded dogs for your tyranny, huh?
Jonas Parker
Hooligan
The pastor was on Tucker Carlson tonight. This one isn't going to go away...
Old Gringo
Senior Member
Hey ---No problem. isn't the gov sending $1200 per person.
Looks like someone just identified a new revenue source for the city.
Momof5
Senior Member
This really sucks. I'm going to one this Sunday at a little church near me. You have to stay in your car, and they show you the radio station to turn on. The preacher is outside, you can watch him and hear him on the radio. I'm really excited to go. Something is up here.
WATCH: Police Raid Church's Drive-In Service, Issue $500 Tickets to Entire Congregation - Todd Starnes
Police in Greenville, Mississippi raided the parking lot of Temple Baptist Church during a drive-in prayer service and issued $500www.toddstarnes.com
Looks like a "Lawyers' Full Employment" situation... JP
Police Raid Church’s Drive-In Service, Issue $500 Tickets to Entire Congregation
By Todd Starnes - April 9, 2020
Police in Greenville, Mississippi raided the parking lot of Temple Baptist Church during a drive-in prayer service and issued $500 fines to everyone in attendance – including many elderly congregants.
Pastor Arthur Scott told the Todd Starnes Radio Show that he was astonished by the actions of the police department and the mayor’s office. I warned Americans this could happen in my new book, “Culture Jihad: How to Stop the Left From Killing a Nation.”
“One of the police officers said the mayor wanted to make an example of our church,” the pastor said. “I told them to get some more tickets ready because we will be preaching Sunday morning and Sunday night.”
“We’ve been doing it for three weeks,” he said.
But Mayor Errick Simmons and the city council that banned churches from hosting drive-in services.
The City of Greenville put in place an Executive Order that orders all church buildings closed for in person and drive in church services, until the State of Mississippi’s Shelter In Place Executive Order No. 1466 is lifted by Governor Tate Reeves. Churches are strongly encouraged to hold services via Facebook Live, Zoom, Free Conference Call, and any and all other social media, streaming, and telephonic platforms,” the order read.
Scott, who has pastored the small church for 45 years, said that most of the congregation is elderly and they don’t have access to smartphones.
So church leaders decided to rig up a radio frequency where congregants could sit in their cars and listen as the pastor delivered the message from the pulpit. In other words, the church was in compliance with social distancing rules.
“The police officer said I might go to jail,” the elderly pastor said on the radio show. “If it means going to jail and if it takes that for me to keep preaching, I’ll be glad to go to jail.”
The pastor said as many as 25 cars were in the parking lot for the service and everyone was ticketed.
Video shows police officers disrupting the service by knocking on the doors of every car. Church members were ordered to turn over their driver’s licenses. They were then issued a fine and a court summons.
“I just can’t believe it,” the pastor told me. “I tried to talk to the mayor. I’ve been here 45 years and I’ve never been to the city council. I’ve never complained. I’ve never stirred up a stink. But I told him I’m going to fight them on this.”
What’s really disturbing is that this happened in Mississippi, not New York City or San Francisco. This happened in the buckle of the Bible Belt.
The mayor and the city council should be removed from office. Any police officer who stepped foot on church property should be fired. And the governor of the state of Mississippi should personally pardon any church member convicted of violating the emergency order.
The U.S. Constitution is under assault, not from a deadly virus, but by leftist lawmakers who want to silence people of faith and shut down their church houses.
Our Founding Fathers fought a war over that kind of aggression.
Sicario
The Executor
Mississippi Church Sues Police After Congregants Ticketed During Drive-in Service
A Mississippi church is suing the city of Greenville after police shut down its drive-in service this week in accordance with a city ban on the practice amid the COVID-19 pandemic.
Attorneys with the Alliance Defending Freedom filed the lawsuit Friday on behalf of the Temple Baptist Church. The filing challenges Greenville Mayor Errick Simmons' April 7 executive order that prohibits drive-in church services until a statewide shelter-in-place order is lifted.
The suit comes after eight uniformed Greenville police officers reportedly issued $500 tickets to congregants who refused to leave a parking lot where a drive-in service was being conducted Wednesday, the ADF said in a statement announcing the legal challenge.
The group contends that church congregants stayed in their cars with their windows rolled up while listening to Pastor Arthur Scott preach from inside the empty Go Church building.
“Government is clearly overstepping its authority when it singles out churches for punishment, especially in a ridiculous fashion like this,” said ADF senior counsel Ryan Tucker, director of the ADF Center for Christian Ministries. “In Greenville, you can be in your car at a drive-in restaurant, but you can’t be in your car at a drive-in church service. That’s not only nonsensical, it’s unconstitutional, too.”
The Greenville Police Department and Simmons' office did not immediately return calls from Fox News for comment Friday.
The church has been conducting the services for the past three weeks in accordance with social distancing rules, the ADF said. Simmons' ban orders church buildings closed for in-person and drive-in services.
Mississippi Gov. Tate Reeves, a Republican, makes no such mention in his shelter-in-place order. Simmons met with local religious leaders Thursday to discuss the ban and most agreed with his executive order, the city posted on its Facebook account.
Religious services have become somewhat of a contentious issue as governments prohibit large gatherings in an effort to slow the spread of the virus.
Kansas Gov. Laura Kelly, a Democrat, is suing top state Republican lawmakers after they voted to overturn her executive order banning large gatherings in churches.
LINK - Mississippi church sues police after congregants ticketed during drive-in service
A Mississippi church is suing the city of Greenville after police shut down its drive-in service this week in accordance with a city ban on the practice amid the COVID-19 pandemic.
Attorneys with the Alliance Defending Freedom filed the lawsuit Friday on behalf of the Temple Baptist Church. The filing challenges Greenville Mayor Errick Simmons' April 7 executive order that prohibits drive-in church services until a statewide shelter-in-place order is lifted.
The suit comes after eight uniformed Greenville police officers reportedly issued $500 tickets to congregants who refused to leave a parking lot where a drive-in service was being conducted Wednesday, the ADF said in a statement announcing the legal challenge.
The group contends that church congregants stayed in their cars with their windows rolled up while listening to Pastor Arthur Scott preach from inside the empty Go Church building.
“Government is clearly overstepping its authority when it singles out churches for punishment, especially in a ridiculous fashion like this,” said ADF senior counsel Ryan Tucker, director of the ADF Center for Christian Ministries. “In Greenville, you can be in your car at a drive-in restaurant, but you can’t be in your car at a drive-in church service. That’s not only nonsensical, it’s unconstitutional, too.”
The Greenville Police Department and Simmons' office did not immediately return calls from Fox News for comment Friday.
The church has been conducting the services for the past three weeks in accordance with social distancing rules, the ADF said. Simmons' ban orders church buildings closed for in-person and drive-in services.
Mississippi Gov. Tate Reeves, a Republican, makes no such mention in his shelter-in-place order. Simmons met with local religious leaders Thursday to discuss the ban and most agreed with his executive order, the city posted on its Facebook account.
Religious services have become somewhat of a contentious issue as governments prohibit large gatherings in an effort to slow the spread of the virus.
Kansas Gov. Laura Kelly, a Democrat, is suing top state Republican lawmakers after they voted to overturn her executive order banning large gatherings in churches.
LINK - Mississippi church sues police after congregants ticketed during drive-in service
brizziechap
Contributing Member
Take from Germany....
www.euronews.com
Several hundred Christians didn't let the coronavirus lockdown stop them as they held a Good Friday mass at a drive-in cinema in Germany.
It was held in Düsseldorf, where people stayed in their cars to listen to the ecumenical celebration on the radio.
"I would have wanted to be at church, but that is not possible right now, because of the pandemic," vicar Frank Heidkamp told AFP news agency.
"We are trying to keep our community together with this drive-in service."
In Germany, groups of more than two people are banned from meeting under social distancing measures to stop the spread of the virus. Düsseldorf mayor Thomas Geisel has offered the use of the drive-in cinema, which is currently closed, to the city's religious figures. Tickets are free and available online. They must be scanned at the cinema's entrance, through the car's window, which must remain closed.
During the drive-in service, priests stand on a small stage to read sacred texts. They are then allowed to go and speak to inviduals within reasonable distance of their car.
"God is glad that people miss him. He would probably have wanted a church service, but since that isn't possible, I think God will be happy as things are," Heidkamp said.
Alice Courek, a local attending the service, told AFP that since she couldn't visit family, she thought "it was a great idea to do something different for Easter".
"I miss personal contact, religious services, speaking with other faithfuls," Reinold Welbers, a 53-year-old local, said. "We are not used to this, but maybe it can work."
Düsseldorf's drive-in cinema will welcome a Catholic mass on Easter Sunday and a Protestant mass on Monday.
German church resurrects prayer with Easter service at drive-in cinema
This church in Germany used a creative way of overcoming coronavirus lockdown restrictions.
www.euronews.com
Several hundred Christians didn't let the coronavirus lockdown stop them as they held a Good Friday mass at a drive-in cinema in Germany.
It was held in Düsseldorf, where people stayed in their cars to listen to the ecumenical celebration on the radio.
"I would have wanted to be at church, but that is not possible right now, because of the pandemic," vicar Frank Heidkamp told AFP news agency.
"We are trying to keep our community together with this drive-in service."
In Germany, groups of more than two people are banned from meeting under social distancing measures to stop the spread of the virus. Düsseldorf mayor Thomas Geisel has offered the use of the drive-in cinema, which is currently closed, to the city's religious figures. Tickets are free and available online. They must be scanned at the cinema's entrance, through the car's window, which must remain closed.
During the drive-in service, priests stand on a small stage to read sacred texts. They are then allowed to go and speak to inviduals within reasonable distance of their car.
"God is glad that people miss him. He would probably have wanted a church service, but since that isn't possible, I think God will be happy as things are," Heidkamp said.
Alice Courek, a local attending the service, told AFP that since she couldn't visit family, she thought "it was a great idea to do something different for Easter".
"I miss personal contact, religious services, speaking with other faithfuls," Reinold Welbers, a 53-year-old local, said. "We are not used to this, but maybe it can work."
Düsseldorf's drive-in cinema will welcome a Catholic mass on Easter Sunday and a Protestant mass on Monday.
SouthernBreeze
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Our Governor Tate Reeves made an announcement about this today. He said that he wished the churches wouldn't do this, but also said that he wouldn't have ticketed or fined the church members. To him, they weren't disobeying his social distancing orders. It was the city officials who did this, not him mandating it.
From all over my area tomorrow some churches will be listening to church service in the same way. Sheriffs are saying that they wished they wouldn't go through with it, but no arrests or fines are expected. We'll see how it goes.
From all over my area tomorrow some churches will be listening to church service in the same way. Sheriffs are saying that they wished they wouldn't go through with it, but no arrests or fines are expected. We'll see how it goes.
